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To all of you who have anything to say about Black people.

 
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It's also easy for them to nit-pick over such trivialities as grammar and syntax to ignore a valid point.
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Such things are not trivial in the business world. A man who speaks proper English sounds professional, and that reflects on the company itself.

I would not, for example, hire a lawyer whose grasp of English was so poor -- especially if English was his first (and only) language.
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hey,you elected a bumbling idiot, who cant speak or write his name, as president....
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Canada does not have a President.
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canada,india,australia,UK,france are irrelevant to our discussion.Only USA counts.
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ITs somethin you could never understand, The black american has been held down in this country. Yall think that just cuz we black we get everything free and all the jobs and all the promotions. that shit aint true,switch places wit a african, yall still wont hire him or promote him, so whats the difference
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Honestly, I wouldn't hire or promote anyone who wrote that paragraph (unless it was in the warehouse, etc.). Proper grasp of the English language is important in the job market.
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this is not the job market Trevor
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My response was in regard to the sentence in bold. He can assume he is not promoted because of his skin colour, but chances are, it has more to do with his lack of English skills.
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...Universities prefer whites over blacks.
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Are you freakin' kidding me? A black with 600-600-600 SATs would probably get into an Ivy League college. A white or asian kid with 700-700-700 might not. The difference between those two scores is extremely vast.

Are all your other statements as laughable as that one?
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Do you honestly think that a college admissions officer, given the choice of accepting either Becky Smith and Shanté Jenkins - both girls with the same SAT scores, high school GPA, and extra-curriculars - wouldn't choose Becky?

If so, you're delusional.

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becky smith will be preferred over shante
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Becky Smith will be an overrepresented majority, a white female. They have the hardest time of all getting into college. (The only case I know where men get a better break than women from "the system".) She'll get in somewhere but it will probably be somewhere she never wanted to consider.

And will watch Shante go off to a top school, chatting with her friends from the Black Student Union about their Ivy League acceptances.
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Can't help myself, so here goes.........

1. American Black people are mainly descendants of peoples who were taken from their homelands (mainly because their own people including tribal chiefs sold them or traded them) and enslaved for multiple generations over hundreds of years (just like other people in US that were enslaved through the centuries, like Irish and Scottish).

Whites who purchased slaves were the criminals not tribal chiefs.Whites were violent,cruel,dirty,pathetic people.Plus their religion focres them to have slaves.

2. Systematic indoctrination and "dumbing down" made certain that the future of the cultures and peoples taken would never again be of great intellectual or socioeconomic significance (School is too hard and you won't let us get a diploma with a 60 average so you better lower your standards. / Not to mention all of the free monies for higher education that are available to black youth for several decades now ..... [link to scholarships.fatomei.com]

Below average whites get into top universities (like george bush-yale)just because of money and connections.Universities prefer whites over blacks.

3. Institutionalized segregation from higher education opportunities and/or employment (again, see comments above )create incredible adversity for those of us who want so badly to change our predetermined poverty and perceived ignorance. (And yes, affirmative action helped but now reverse racism is just as bad)

This is not reverse racism.This is social adjustment.Whites should not always be centre of universe

4. Although there are many of us who have and will continue to make wonderful situations and opportunities of our lives, there are a vast many more who will never even know what it means to have conviction or determination, let alone even be able to spell the words> (Conviction and determination is a self driven human emotions, has nothing to do with lack of because of the need to find someone at fault for not having it)

When economic opportunities are denied,people lose their determination.The economy is controlled by whites for whites.Other races just get scraps.

5. American black people are due reparations no matter what has become of the completely beaten down group of peoples who were originally enslaved and stolen from their lands. (Uh, I think they died centuries ago along with the slave owners.)

I think,we should get a separate state in america,only for blacks.

and one final point.

6. Most of the people who make comments about the activities, decisions or actions of American Black people, commonly have no contact with black people or an educated and experience-driven opinion worth listening to.(Most of us have had plenty of contact, thus the reason for our statements).

Yes,your girlfriends and wives have contact with many of us but not you.

In closing,
I have no need to call names or point fingers, you who have made racist comments have done plenty of that. We are one race of beings and really need to start realizing that those of us who are systematically kept in certain socioeconomic and cultural positions deserve a little more understanding.(Translation, you all keep giving us everything we want and then some, so we won't call Jackson or Sharpton on yo ass).

In closing,i say whites are the most dangerous aberration evolution has produced
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Sorry dude, I don't buy it.
Women were held down for centuries too and look how well they do in 2011.
If women can do it, so can black men.
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Women are so catered to it's an embarrassment. The media, the court systems, education, just about every system out there kisses the asses of women. It's easy to win when everyone of importance cheers for you from your head start to the finish line.

Being a black man in America is an entirely different story. Unless you want to look like a fool, don't ever compare white women's successes in this country to the black man's. It's a fuckin joke.
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Sorry dude, I don't buy it.
Women were held down for centuries too and look how well they do in 2011.
If women can do it, so can black men.
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Well said. I agree.
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5. American black people are due reparations no matter what has become of the completely beaten down group of peoples who were originally enslaved and stolen from their lands.
 Quoting: Tokpela

Don't forget that the American govt. should also give reparations to the American Indians, women, children, the mentally ill, left handers, gay people, witches, Hispanic people, did I forget anyone who belongs to a demographic that was abused in the distant past?
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Re: To all of you who have anything to say about Black people.
Seems to me the 40 acres and mule should have put your race on top in America! My ancestors came here with NOTHING. It is not our fault and we should not have to pay because your ancestors made bad choices and didn't build on the wealth already given them
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Yeah but don't forget most of the discrimination laws are in favour of MINORITIES. Not to mention Affirmative Action for minorities. You can guarantee that whites will do a lot better as minorities and use these services a lot more productively than blacks have over the last 30 years.

It's to do with SMARTS not NUMBERS.
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At the state level, affirmative action has mostly been done away with. There are still Federal quotas that must be met, but by and large it's a thing of the past. Not to mention that WHITE WOMEN benefited more from affirmative action than any other group on this planet.

It's a fuckin joke.
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Sorry dude, I don't buy it.
Women were held down for centuries too and look how well they do in 2011.
If women can do it, so can black men.
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Women are so catered to it's an embarrassment. The media, the court systems, education, just about every system out there kisses the asses of women. It's easy to win when everyone of importance cheers for you from your head start to the finish line.

Being a black man in America is an entirely different story. Unless you want to look like a fool, don't ever compare white women's successes in this country to the black man's. It's a fuckin joke.
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Actually, at least for admission to competitive schools, it's tough for white (and probably also asian) girls. The only place I know of that's tough for white girls, but that is tough. Girls do so much better in k-12 education, they are competing with each other to get into college, while boys generally have at least worse grades and have acquired some bumps and bruises in the system that demands female behavior from them, so they're allowed to be less than perfect.

There was an article about this in the NY Times a year or 2 ago.
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There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire.

But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5)
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Seems to me the 40 acres and mule should have put your race on top in America! My ancestors came here with NOTHING. It is not our fault and we should not have to pay because your ancestors made bad choices and didn't build on the wealth already given them
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Please enlighten me. What wealth was our ANCESTORS given?
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Seems to me the 40 acres and mule should have put your race on top in America! My ancestors came here with NOTHING. It is not our fault and we should not have to pay because your ancestors made bad choices and didn't build on the wealth already given them
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What exactly was "given" to freed slaves besides the finger?
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Yeah but don't forget most of the discrimination laws are in favour of MINORITIES. Not to mention Affirmative Action for minorities. You can guarantee that whites will do a lot better as minorities and use these services a lot more productively than blacks have over the last 30 years.

It's to do with SMARTS not NUMBERS.
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At the state level, affirmative action has mostly been done away with. There are still Federal quotas that must be met, but by and large it's a thing of the past. Not to mention that WHITE WOMEN benefited more from affirmative action than any other group on this planet.

It's a fuckin joke.
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This is absolutely true in employment. How many mediocre female engineers had nice careers guaranteed to them? Every one I saw.
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But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5)
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"5. American black people are due reparations no matter what has become of the completely beaten down group of peoples who were originally enslaved and stolen from their lands. "



Lol, I will die before I give anyone anything for something of which I had no part. You will not use your great-great grandfathers plight as a reason to extort money from me.

I would love to know why you think your ancestors' servitude to someone else entitles YOU to anything?
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Re: To all of you who have anything to say about Black people.
Man i swear yall so fuckin racist it aint funny. its 2011, we aint gotta sit at the back of the bus no more. Most of the problems between black and white people today, is alot of whites don't respect black people, we are the same as you, believe it or not we bleed, and shit the same, but yes in the jeans i am more impressive, other than that, look past the skin and we all the same. but im startin to think it aint no hope for billy bob, and willie ray, they stuck in the 50's
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Who is stuck in the 50's? Why are yall democrats? The party of slavery. The party of the KKK. The party of lynch mobs, and Jim Crow laws.

WTF is the matter with you?
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Seems to me the 40 acres and mule should have put your race on top in America! My ancestors came here with NOTHING. It is not our fault and we should not have to pay because your ancestors made bad choices and didn't build on the wealth already given them
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Please enlighten me. What wealth was our ANCESTORS given?

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When the civil war ended each slave was given 40 acres and a mule. My ancestors made no money off of slaves did not own slaves and came here with nothing. Why should I have to pay tax dollars to you?
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"5. American black people are due reparations no matter what has become of the completely beaten down group of peoples who were originally enslaved and stolen from their lands. "



Lol, I will die before I give anyone anything for something of which I had no part. You will not use your great-great grandfathers plight as a reason to extort money from me.

I would love to know why you think your ancestors' servitude to someone else entitles YOU to anything?

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Because we are STILL affected by it! My goodness, is that too hard to understand?

Damn. I'm going to watch Netflix and go back to my happy place where I forget this mentality still exists. Rome wasn't built in a day and it seems eyes certainly won't be opened tonight.
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Seems to me the 40 acres and mule should have put your race on top in America! My ancestors came here with NOTHING. It is not our fault and we should not have to pay because your ancestors made bad choices and didn't build on the wealth already given them
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Please enlighten me. What wealth was our ANCESTORS given?

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When the civil war ended each slave was given 40 acres and a mule. My ancestors made no money off of slaves did not own slaves and came here with nothing. Why should I have to pay tax dollars to you?
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This is not true.
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Yeah but don't forget most of the discrimination laws are in favour of MINORITIES. Not to mention Affirmative Action for minorities. You can guarantee that whites will do a lot better as minorities and use these services a lot more productively than blacks have over the last 30 years.

It's to do with SMARTS not NUMBERS.
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At the state level, affirmative action has mostly been done away with. There are still Federal quotas that must be met, but by and large it's a thing of the past. Not to mention that WHITE WOMEN benefited more from affirmative action than any other group on this planet.

It's a fuckin joke.
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Because white women embraced the opportunity and RAN WITH IT.
They only got support AFTER so many of them were doing well that the rest (politics, the law system and the media) had no choice but to come on board and accept them.

Those first women had it the hardest as they had no support at all, as well as a lot of them having to raise kids at the same time as study and work to break through.

It's not easy but it can be done if people PERSIST in large numbers and make it a success story like it's supposed to be.
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There is NO SUCH THING as "reverse racism."
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You are quite right. Racism is just racism. There are no different flavours.
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I would love to know why you think your ancestors' servitude to someone else entitles YOU to anything?
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I'll bite

Because my ancestors were systematically stripped of any opportunity to build or aquire anything of value in this country for generations, instead they were worked, beaten, raped, removed from their land, families, culture and brought here to be treated like animals in a US government approved abomination of human rights. Today there are still companies doing business that have benefited from slavery and those are the people/businesses that should have to pay. Not you or your family who probably never owned slaves.
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Seems to me the 40 acres and mule should have put your race on top in America! My ancestors came here with NOTHING. It is not our fault and we should not have to pay because your ancestors made bad choices and didn't build on the wealth already given them
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Please enlighten me. What wealth was our ANCESTORS given?

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When the civil war ended each slave was given 40 acres and a mule. My ancestors made no money off of slaves did not own slaves and came here with nothing. Why should I have to pay tax dollars to you?
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I lied. I'm leaving after this.

That order to give freed slaves land was reversed by Andrew Johnson. They had to give that land back, hence the question, "Where's my 40 acres and a mule."

Try again.
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Seems to me the 40 acres and mule should have put your race on top in America! My ancestors came here with NOTHING. It is not our fault and we should not have to pay because your ancestors made bad choices and didn't build on the wealth already given them
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Please enlighten me. What wealth was our ANCESTORS given?

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When the civil war ended each slave was given 40 acres and a mule. My ancestors made no money off of slaves did not own slaves and came here with nothing. Why should I have to pay tax dollars to you?
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Read this.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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whites were always minority in the countries they invaded.Nothing new with america either
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Without a doubt, but with awareness growing of the white man's exploiting everyone around them for their own gain (jews included)... I wouldn't be surprised if the entire race is targeted for extermination by brown folks.
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you sure you want to go "there"?
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Consider...
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America has become a nightmare.
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Seems to me the 40 acres and mule should have put your race on top in America! My ancestors came here with NOTHING. It is not our fault and we should not have to pay because your ancestors made bad choices and didn't build on the wealth already given them
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Please enlighten me. What wealth was our ANCESTORS given?

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When the civil war ended each slave was given 40 acres and a mule. My ancestors made no money off of slaves did not own slaves and came here with nothing. Why should I have to pay tax dollars to you?
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I lied. I'm leaving after this.

That order to give freed slaves land was reversed by Andrew Johnson. They had to give that land back, hence the question, "Where's my 40 acres and a mule."

Try again.

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I just read up and you are right it was revoked. Even so >> But still my forefathers had nothing to do with slavery and gained nothing through it. So again I ask why I should have to take food from my children's mouth and give it to yours?
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... Today there are still companies doing business that have benefited from slavery and those are the people/businesses that should have to pay. Not you or your family who probably never owned slaves.
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OK fine. Do that, you might even get white people to support you.

But we're keenly aware that current programs advantage all blacks as a group, at the expense of all whites as a group. And we are rational enough to compensate for that when we can, for example in how much we respect people's accomplishments on paper.
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But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5)
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you sure you want to go "there"?
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What you or I want is irrelevant. What appears to be shaping up through world demographics might just be your worst nightmare. I'm not saying I want it to happen, but things aren't looking good for those of the fairer complexion.

Just sayin..
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Re: To all of you who have anything to say about Black people.
OK fine. Do that, you might even get white people to support you.

But we're keenly aware that current programs advantage all blacks as a group, at the expense of all whites as a group. And we are rational enough to compensate for that when we can, for example in how much we respect people's accomplishments on paper.
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I think most blacks are smart enough to realize that the average white person had nothing to do with slavery. Do they benefit from the fruits of it? Some do, however the overwhelming majority of whites and blacks are all being served up a shit sandwich nowadays.

There is and will continue to be some movement on the corporations that benefited from slavery, Aetna is one that comes to mind. They wrote and collected on insurance policies for slaves back in the day. That is the types of groups that should be targeted, not everyday citizens. At least in my book.
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Re: To all of you who have anything to say about Black people.
OK fine. Do that, you might even get white people to support you.

But we're keenly aware that current programs advantage all blacks as a group, at the expense of all whites as a group. And we are rational enough to compensate for that when we can, for example in how much we respect people's accomplishments on paper.
 Quoting: oniongrass


I think most blacks are smart enough to realize that the average white person had nothing to do with slavery. Do they benefit from the fruits of it? Some do, however the overwhelming majority of whites and blacks are all being served up a shit sandwich nowadays.

There is and will continue to be some movement on the corporations that benefited from slavery, Aetna is one that comes to mind. They wrote and collected on insurance policies for slaves back in the day. That is the types of groups that should be targeted, not everyday citizens. At least in my book.
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I agree if a corporation or even individuals that are linked to the money that was made can be tracked down and it can be shown to be the basis of their wealth today they should be sued for it.





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