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In honour of the Memorial Today...
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In honour of the Memorial Today...
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After reading the first 5 pages, I'll have to bump as well. Why isn't this taught in skool...oh, I know why.
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BUMP GODS CHOOSEN PEOPLE/THEIR LEADER SPOKE BEFORE CONGRESS AND OUR LEADERS JUMPED UP AND PEEED THEIR SELFS ON EVERY WORD,ALL I CAN SAY IS 9/11/2001
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Fucking Is-Ra-Elis....
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It does not go away, it is imply rotten and Is-Ra-Hell killed your servicemen America, wake the fuck up...or BOHICA.
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For those poor souls on floating death traps about to be sunk by Is-Ra-El....to be blamed on Iran.
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For those poor souls on floating death traps about to be sunk by Is-Ra-El....to be blamed on Iran.
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Thanks for bringing this thread back into the light where it should be.....hf
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
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For those poor souls on floating death traps about to be sunk by Is-Ra-El....to be blamed on Iran.
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Thanks for bringing this thread back into the light where it should be.....hf
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Cheers...we must never forget or forgive the bastards that did this. And we must remember that it can happen again...
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For those poor souls on floating death traps about to be sunk by Is-Ra-El....to be blamed on Iran.
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Thanks for bringing this thread back into the light where it should be.....hf
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Cheers...we must never forget or forgive the bastards that did this. And we must remember that it can happen again...
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(Aircraft Carrier USS Enterprise) or others...
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
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What did you expect from the
US government and Isreahell?
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After strafing this unarmed ship for 18 hrs. they then used torpedoes. Is it any wonder they then felt emboldened for 911? The only terrorist who consistently attacks the US is Israel, ADL, JDL and AIPAC.
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and again...because the f'ed up Is-Ra-Elis are going to pull something...all my relatives are nut jobs...
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F*king morons. Again with the USS Liberty.

The USS Liberty was passing intelligence to the Arabs.


THIS ENDS RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.
ENOUGH WITH THIS ANTI ISRAEL USS LIBERTY CRAP.
IT IS FALSE. KNOW THE TRUTH. I SPENT TIME TYPING IT UP.
EVERY SINGLE TIME I GO ON GLP, SOME REDNECK IS HOOING AND HAAING ABOUT THE USS LIBERTY, WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS.
READ THIS, AND NOW YOU WILL KNOW. thank you.


Contrary to the Israeli governments categorical denials, the assault on the liberty had been deliberate, bit it was an act of self defense.
The "old spies" are adamant that the Liberty crew only knows the what, not the why, of what happened. Similarly, although Eveland and Deacon exposed the fact that the Israelis knew what they were doing when they attacked the ship, they did not know the real reason. Een US Naval Intelligence did not piece together what had happened until years later, and they had to get most of the answers from the British, who got them from the NSA. This is the real version of the Liberty incident, as told by sources among the former intelligence officers who were there on both sides of the battle*22.

In the weeks preceding the 1967 war, the Israeli embassy in Washington fully briefed the CIA and the White house on its strategy to preempt the Arab invasion. Once before the Israelis had launched a preempive strike in the Sinai without Washingtons explicit approval. The 1956 Suez debacle still rankled in everyones memory. This time the Israelis wanted to make sure that they had not cross wires with their most important, if not only, ally in the world. Every major facet of the impeding campaign was discussed in advance. Including the strike against Syria *23.

Sources insist that the US government knew that the israelis were going to attack the Golan Heights weeks before it happened and gave them the green light. Syria was in the Soviet camp and no particular friend of the United STates. Jordan was another matter. According to the "old spies", that were interviewed, a CIA agent in Amman, Jordan, leaked word to Jordan's King Hussein about the secret Israeli briefing, that Israelis would only counterattack in the north and south against egypt and syria.

Under US pressure, the Israelis had agreed not to send troops into the West Bank. As long as Jordan did not attack Israel from the east, King Hussein would stay out of the war and keep the provinces of Judea, Samaria, and the old city of Jerusalem which the Jordanian army had stolen from Palestine in 1948*24.
It was a good deal for Jordan, but not good enough. King Hussein was undepre pressure from the Arab wlorld to join in the attack against Israel. I would be embarrasing for him to sit back and do nothing while Egypt and Syria came hundreds of miles to fight the jewish people.
The king had to do something to appease his Arab brothers, so he sent Jordanian troops to attack from Syrian ,while promising the CIA that not a single Jordanian soldier would attack Israel from the West Bank. King Hussein slyly omitted his plan to place Jordanian troops under Egyptian control. The CIA passed the word on to Israel not to worry about an attack on hits eastern flank.
Israel found out about the CIA deal with king hussein and got pissed off. It may not have made a lot of difference to the CIA if Jordanian troops were fighting on the northern front, but it made a lot of difference to the jewish people. But this was nothing compared to what the jewish people found out next*25.
When the Israelis discovered that the Americans also had made ad eal with the Egyptians, they got even more angry at the CIA. To be fair, our sourcesin the intel community acknowledge that, by and large, the CIA was a messenger boy. The real decisions wre being made in the white house. ARAMCO AND THE OTHER BIG PLAYERS IN THE OIL BUSINESS WERE EXTREMELY CONSIDERED THAT AMERICAN AID TO ISRAEL WOULD ALIENATE THE ARAB OIL PRODUCERS. It was not enough to withold military assistance in the coming war. Everything on the Muslim world knew that the US was still neutral in favor of Israel.
The oil men wanted some under the table help for the Arabs *26

President Lyndon Johnson had been in the oil business and knew how the game was played. The oil producers got to LBJ or someone very close to him in the white house. Our sources never found out who. The oil men asked if the president could throw the arabs a bone, some osfrt of secret assistance that the public would never find out about but would make the arab leadership grateful. The point was to keep the oil flowing no matter what happened in the 1967 war. *27.

The white house approved a contingency plan to send the Arabs a little intelligence about the IDF, but nothing too much that would upset the balance of the war. Just something to let the arab leaders think that the US was secretly on their side, no matter what the US says about Israel. Unfortunately, the small scale contingency plan escalated. No one planned it that way. only a handful of staffers in the white house, the NSA, and the CIA knew what happened and they all pointed the finger at each other.

A few days before the war broke out, the USS liberty was detached from navy control and placed under authority of the NSA. The ship was ordered to pick up two Hebrew translators (non Jewish NSA employees) from Spain and head for the eastern Mediterranean*29.

On June 4, 1967, the CIA passed info via a courier that the US was willing to give Egypt intel about Israel. But the Egyptian military was not impressed. Soon there would be no Israel anyway. That evening, King Hussein called Nasser to tell him that the Israelis would attack in the morning *30.
Nasser just laughed off the CIA's betrayal of Israel.

Then on June 5, the Egyptians stopped laughing when Israel attacked. the IAF destroyed the Syrian and Egyptian air forces. They were blind, with no intelligence. King Hussein screamed at the CIA that he was betrayed. (Oh, and he forgot his promise to not fight Israel while he was putting his troops under Syrian control).
Within 48 hours the Israels had captured the Gaza Strip, and forced the Egyptian army back into the Sinai. For the first time in 2,000 years, the Israelis got back Jerusalem.

The egyptians desperately needed intelligence about the Israelis.
On the fourth day of the war, June 8, 1967, the USS Liberty arrived off the coast of egypt.
Its crew did not know it, but it was the only hope the Egyptian army had of retrieving anything from one of the quickest and most decisive military victories in history.

The USS liberty was more than a floating radio set. It was a giant magnet for electronic intelligence and could do more than eavesdrop.

So what exactly was the USS liberty doing there? Our sources among the "old spies" have an interesting explanation*32. They believe the Liberty was making a war map. Every radio communication was indexed with strength and direction. Same thing with tank and aircraft radio transmissions. The ship picked up everything in the airwaves and noted the location of every speck of electronic dust in Israel This is called a "Raw Intelligence Take".

The Liberty was one of the most sophisticated spy ships in the world at that time. But all the ship did was record, compress, and transmit data to a land station. The crew members did not now it, but the land station was on Cyprus. This was the clever part. The navy's paper trail would show that no American computer had even begun to process the Liberty's data at the time of the attack. If asked under oath, the few officers involved in the scheme could swear that the ship never gave away any secrets to the Arabs. And it would be the truth.
The British secret service had one of the largest electronic listening posts in the world on the island of Cyprus. That's where the USS liberty's data went.
Frequencies, locations, were identified with unit numbers. The data was put on an electronic war map that was updated constantly with the Liberty's input *34.

Spectrographic analysis of known voiceprints enabled the computer to identify each Israeli commander as soon as he spoke on the radio or telephone..

Our sources insist that with the Liberty's assistance, the Arabis might have been able to turn the war around. The finished war map was a detailed order of battle intelligence report, called an "OB". It is the most useful tool a general can have in time of war. Using this map, they can send their troops to exploit weaknesses.

Israel was prewarned about the USS liberty. perhaps by an agent inside British Intelligence.

This level playing field game would be a disaster for the Israelis. There were 1 billion muslims, and 3 million jewish people in Israel. A WAR OF ATTRITION WORKS ONLY FOR THE ARABS.

Diplomatic protest would be useless. The US would deny everything, the UN would stall, and more Israeli soldiers would be killed. The Israelis would be asked to come up with proof, and they could not do so without exposing their own intelligence agents in the Western and Arab camps.

It came down to a choice. 25,000 Israelis dead in the Golan campaign, or an attack on the Liberty.
REMEMBER, ONE FIGHTER BOMBER WITH HIGH EXPLOSIVE ORDINANCE WOULD BLAST THE LIBERTY OUT OF THE WATER.

Cabinet members asked if there was a way to do this WITHOUT KILLING 300 US SAILORS, since the American people were friends of Israel, regardless of the AMERICAN POLITICIANS actions against them.

A plan was put together to put the ship out of commission with a minimum loss of life. Somehow, the Israelis got the ships building plans, and the Liberty's fireproof and waterproof compartments gave the IDF staff an idea.
The first run would fire light rockets to the ANTENNA, and strafe the deck. This would send the crew downstairs belowdecks. As soon as they were belowdecks, the second strike would drop napalm to burn off the antennas (a lot of the stuff was made from aluminum), without breaching the structural integrity of the fireproof hull where the crew was hiding.
The only problem was the electronic intelligence center belowdecks in hold number 3. One carefully aimed torpedo would take that out without sinking the ship, but whoever was there would die. 80 to 90 % of the crew would live.
This was the best they could do.

The cabinet members gave the order to disable the liberty with minimum order of life. They could not trust their own telephones at this point, so they sent a courier to the nearest IAF squadron to ask for volunteers. Half the squadron refused to fly, because they had friends or relatives in the US. The ones that did fly were heartsick.
Two pilots later had nervous breakdowns.

As soon as the attack was underway, a senior official of Israeli intelligence paid a surprise call to his CIA counterpart. He told them what they were doing to the USS Liberty. Before the second wave of fighters came, the CIA told the navy to call off air support for the Liberty.

Why were the US navy fighters, from the US carriers, ordered back to the carrier?
The Israelis had proof that the US Government was committing an act of war against Israel by betraying its military secrets to the enemy in the middle of a war in which Israel's survival was at stake.

The CIA's low risk strategy blew up in its face.

The government of the US and Israel have been covering this up for the past 40 years.

This is the correct version of what happened.

The press wanted to know why the Liberty was twelve miles off the coast on June 8. For a time, the navy stuck to its story of how the Liberty was just relaying US messages. On June 29, the Joint Chiefs of Staff said they didnt know why the Liberty wasnt moved 400 miles away, like the other ships in the US navy. Then they said that they DID order the liberty to move, but the liberty never got the messages.
But if the USS liberty cant get messages from its admirals, how could it be a evacuee ship that picked up evacuees with weak radios?

THIS IS THE SAME COVERUP WITH PEARL HARBOR THAT THE US DID. the orders for the Liberty to move away from the warzone somehow got lost, bounced around, and ended up in Washington, then Ft. Meade..

But what people dont understand is that the ship was not under command of the Navy on June 8 1967. It was under command of the NSA.

The orders for the Liberty to move away from the warzone were actually not low priority, and were NOT lost. They were the highest priority, codenamed "Pinnacle". We now know from declassified files that the 6th Fleet and the Joint Chiefs were desperately trying to MOVE the liberty AWAY from the Israel.

The ship had radio receivers so powerful they could pick up a tank radio 40 miles away. OF COURSE it could hear messages from its own headquarters. Even after the Israelis blew off its masts and antennas, the comm gear was so powerful that Commander William McGonagle could still broadcast a request for assistance to the 6th Fleet.

Sources:
22-Confidential interviews, former officers, US Army
23-confidential interviews, former white house staffer, former members, CIA
24-letters of Miles Copeland, July 22, 1987, from CIA Political Action files, copy provided by source wishing to remain anonymous.
25-ibid
26. Memorandum of William Clark, May 14, 1987, The White House, Top Secret, p.1, declassified version provided by congressional staffer.
27-Confidential interviews, former white house staffer, CIA
28-memorandum of William Clark, p.2
29-Oliver North, crossfire, november 1991.
34- Confidential interviews, former members, a Western intelligence service.
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Israel should be bombed, invaded and pacified, complete with no fly zone. we MUST realize that jewish people should be rounded up and put to work in camps before they completely destroy our nation. Names like Rockefeller and rothschild.

Nuff said.
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They are doing the same thing now to the US as they did back then to Germany.
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To AC 9081: cool story, bro. When did you type all that, and what kind of typewriter was it?
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Israel should be bombed, invaded and pacified, complete with no fly zone. we MUST realize that jewish people should be rounded up and put to work in camps before they completely destroy our nation. Names like Rockefeller and rothschild.

Nuff said.
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They are doing the same thing now to the US as they did back then to Germany.
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The Freemason's NWO?
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June 5, 2014 {snip}

Today there are many of us who would like to dismantle the NSA and the related false flag criminal syndicate we call the US government. On June 8, 1967 our 'best friend' took it on themselves to try and take down a small part of the NSA, the USS Liberty, during the 1967 so called "Six-Day War" which actually never ended. This crime was not only never officially acknowledged but as time went on we have found that the NSA came to backdoor all of its data theft directly to Israel to use as it pleases. Crimes against humanity and especially the killing of Americans often get rewarded in zionist occupied territory.

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