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Pharmacist given life in prison for killing fine upstanding young black men trying to liberate drugs

 
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Pharmacist given life in prison for killing fine upstanding young black men trying to liberate drugs
So basically, two masked robberies enter the store and shoot at the pharmacist, he runs into the back, gets a gun, and shoots one. He then chases the one that runs off, and when he comes back into the store the one he shot is still moving, and so he considers him a threat, and so he puts 5 more love holes in him which kills him.

[link to online.wsj.com]

Now, he has been convicted of first degree murder and given life in prison. I'm sure this guy wasn't scared at all having bullets shot at him, worried that the other guy would come back and shoot him in the back and that his adrenaline/emotional levels were normal.

Of course, since he killed a young black man, who was of course, just getting his life together and going to make something of himself, then that obviously proves he is racist and so a damn pharmacist, someone who actually contributes to society, is going to have his life ruined over some POS who would have only destroyed lives in his path.

Fucking disgusting.
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05/31/2011 03:27 PM
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Did he have to kill him? No.
Did he have to try and rob and attempt to kill a pharmacist ? no
Should he (the pharmacist) be punished for killing the man when it wasn't needed? SLIGHTLY.
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He was a good boy and one day would have been president!
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Did he have to kill him? No.
Did he have to try and rob and attempt to kill a pharmacist ? no
Should he (the pharmacist) be punished for killing the man when it wasn't needed? SLIGHTLY.
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I basically agree. I think killing the guy may have been too much, but I wasn't there, I don't know what the robber was trying to do and I don't know the pharmacist's mental state.

If he has a clean record, at his age, then I think he shouldn't have been given any prison time.

Did you see the video of the family of the kid? They way they were cheering and whooping because this guy got life? It was pretty disgusting.
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05/31/2011 03:45 PM
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Very disturbing story and the only part I disagree with it:
"pharmacist, someone who actually contributes to society,"
but, I understand what you were getting at.

So, I guess people are supposed to let people shoot at them now or something. I didn't even read the story because it probably would just make me angry...
..and forget about watching the video.
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05/31/2011 04:49 PM
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He was a good boy and one day would have been president!
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Yeah, they always have some BS sob story about these thugs, when the reality is that they rape, rob and murder for their entire lives. The fact is that most people aren't caught for their first crime - they are almost always repeat offenders.
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05/31/2011 04:52 PM
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Link to the surveillance video:

[link to www.youtube.com]

It does happen rather quickly.
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05/31/2011 04:57 PM
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He should have rang 911 and let the Police authorities handle the situation.


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How is it first degree murder when the whole robbery was not planned by him?

1st is premeditated, that means the escape plan was already planned out the disposing of evidence and the alibis in place.

Defending yourself in a panic is not murder one. it's IMO just manslaughter...

Maybe all judges need to be reviewed they all seem ignorant of the law.

I think this case will be overturned and probably thrown out on appeal.
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He should have rang 911 and let the Police authorities handle the situation.


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Did you miss the part where they were SHOOTING at him?
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How is it first degree murder when the whole robbery was not planned by him?

1st is premeditated, that means the escape plan was already planned out the disposing of evidence and the alibis in place.

Defending yourself in a panic is not murder one. it's IMO just manslaughter...

Maybe all judges need to be reviewed they all seem ignorant of the law.

I think this case will be overturned and probably thrown out on appeal.
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Yeah it all happened in less than a minute. He ran out of ammo with his first gun and then panicked to get his other gun.
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He should have rang 911 and let the Police authorities handle the situation.


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I'm sure the authorities would've done a great job hauling his body away.
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This is so, so wrong.
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A druggy only sees one thing and that ain't another person's life. They will kill you at a moments notice to get their fix. Once the first shot was fired the druggies made their intentions for a drug fix known at the cost of anyone's life. The pharmacist needs a new lawyer.

Now that the blacks have a man in the white house the equal rights/ race argument is gone.

The pharmacist defended himself against druggies who will do anything to get their drug with one bullet in 'em or six. Every pharmacist knows this fact that a druggy only wants their fix.
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the pharm used too much lead and this rises to excessive force whether by police or citizen

however, the sanity of the jury is really in question here and the juries belief that jury instructions are etched in stone, but our system of jury trials means the jury can decide the case on any merits or none at all, since the jury can only talk amongst themselves and it takes all 12 to convict.

my point is simply why did the jury follow the instructions of the judge when obviously, the robbers intended harm whereas the pharm did not...at least in the beginning of the traumatic episode

normally tho...two shots are acceptable at a perp, and any more is overkill and subject to a criminal offense, unless and only unless, the perp rose up again, and moved to harm again, after the first shots fired by pharm

should have at least been a hung jury imho
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Ersland did not testify during the trial. He told police he shot Parker five more times before chasing a second robber out of the pharmacy. The security camera recordings show he actually shot Parker again after chasing the second robber away, coming back inside the store and getting a second gun. Ersland changed his account of the shooting after the security camera recordings became public.

In the police interview, he referred to Parker as “the guy that I nailed.”

Read more: [link to newsok.com]
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Here's the core issue: he failed to invoke his 5th Amendment rights - hindsight is 20/20 I suppose. My CCW class was taught by former PHX Detective and a partner attorney - they made is *very* clear that you never talk to the police after being involved in a shooting. Someone else should make the call to 911, and you shut the hell up until you have a chance to speak to an attorney.

As a Pharmacist myself, I empathize with Ersland and think the outcome is junk. It appears he now has a long time to think about how things could have been different if he'd simply invoked his Constitutional right(s).

That said - every person should be aware of their rights - the police/State will not hold your hand in doing so.

Long story short: Don't talk to the police (queue youtube video of same title).
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He fucking executed an unconscious man. Put 5 more holes in his unmoving soon to be corpse.

You think that's ok? So, you are absolutely no better than the robber? Or a murderer?

HE EXECUTED HIM. I'm not saying the robbers don't deserve justice, but come the fuck on.
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He fucking executed an unconscious man. Put 5 more holes in his unmoving soon to be corpse.

You think that's ok? So, you are absolutely no better than the robber? Or a murderer?

HE EXECUTED HIM. I'm not saying the robbers don't deserve justice, but come the fuck on.
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Yeah, I'm with you, you're absolutely right!!
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He fucking executed an unconscious man. Put 5 more holes in his unmoving soon to be corpse.

You think that's ok? So, you are absolutely no better than the robber? Or a murderer?

HE EXECUTED HIM. I'm not saying the robbers don't deserve justice, but come the fuck on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 855052


Yeah, I'm with you, you're absolutely right!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1079510


Do either of you know how you would react with adrenaline in your system?

fight or flight?

you know, we are evolutionarily wired to KILL things that scare us and try to kill us


plus, did you know that this heist was planned by 2 older guys --sitting outside---who sent these young thugs into the store?

these kids knew they would only get a few years in juvenile if they killed someone-and they get lots of "street cred" for doing it too

I dont' blame the man for shooting to kill
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Do either of you know how you would react with adrenaline in your system?

fight or flight?

you know, we are evolutionarily wired to KILL things that scare us and try to kill us


plus, did you know that this heist was planned by 2 older guys --sitting outside---who sent these young thugs into the store?

these kids knew they would only get a few years in juvenile if they killed someone-and they get lots of "street cred" for doing it too

I dont' blame the man for shooting to kill
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 664728


We really need to reform this "juvie" crap. Too many teens commit heinous crimes because they know they won't get much time.

Psychologically, age 12 is about when people can think logically. Sure, they have maturing to do, we all do, but they know right from wrong at that point and if they are raping, killing, shooting, etc then they need to be treated like adults.
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the pharm used too much lead and this rises to excessive force whether by police or citizen

however, the sanity of the jury is really in question here and the juries belief that jury instructions are etched in stone, but our system of jury trials means the jury can decide the case on any merits or none at all, since the jury can only talk amongst themselves and it takes all 12 to convict.

my point is simply why did the jury follow the instructions of the judge when obviously, the robbers intended harm whereas the pharm did not...at least in the beginning of the traumatic episode

normally tho...two shots are acceptable at a perp, and any more is overkill and subject to a criminal offense, unless and only unless, the perp rose up again, and moved to harm again, after the first shots fired by pharm

should have at least been a hung jury imho
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1307381


Do a quick Google and find out how many cops have pumped whole clips into people that weren't committing any crime, and didn't even have a weapon.

And then got away with it.
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bump
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If I was a juror I wouldn't find that pharmacist guilty. It's ridiculous. Cops can shoot 25 times and not even see a gun...
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He fucking executed an unconscious man. Put 5 more holes in his unmoving soon to be corpse.

You think that's ok? So, you are absolutely no better than the robber? Or a murderer?

HE EXECUTED HIM. I'm not saying the robbers don't deserve justice, but come the fuck on.
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Were you ever in that situation?
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There was absolutely no reason to shoot the kid the last 5 times.

He was no threat whatsoever.
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5 more times is gruesome. There's something horrendously wrong with that individual. I think it's a good idea he's off the streets for a while.
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He should have rang 911 and let the Police authorities handle the situation.


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BULLSHIT MR. HAN-MAN! When seconds count, Police are only
minutes away!
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Well, How about the Marine Veteran that was murdered by the damn pigs? Shot 60 times in front of his wife and child?
You can keep the oinkers! I will take care of my own Family ....Thank You very much!
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Did he have to kill him? No.
Did he have to try and rob and attempt to kill a pharmacist ? no
Should he (the pharmacist) be punished for killing the man when it wasn't needed? SLIGHTLY.
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A real man would have stopped the bleeding, stabilized the victim awaiting the ambulance.





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