I must be wired differently - Why must one capitulate to authority?

Nope you're not wired differently. You have testicles, figurative or not.

The government should fear the people.

Dealing with the government is like dealing with a spouse. You always let them think you agree with them, then later you can go do your own thing.

Do we really all comply due to threat of force? Because it seems to me that is the only place they derive their power from is from the populaces fear that their rights will be violated if they do not abide? If that is the case a person is willingly accepting they have no rights but mere privileges granted at the behest of the state.

There is a difference, you would have made a vow to your wife. I recall making no vow to the state. Why should they (the state) be shown any courtesy whatsoever?

You never ever said the Pledge of Allegiance? That's a vow.

The only agency to which I capitulate is the IRS. They scare me. They've proven themselves to be capable of serious damage.

Because I repeated something I was directed to say as a 5 year old, I would be held to it today? I am sorry that makes little sense at all. I want to know what document I was coerced to sign if any which in some way obligated me to bow down?

The real fear the government pushes upon the people is false imprisonment. Seriously. Citizens are scared that the government will grab any infraction they can to embellish it into a goddamned federal felonious crime! Thereby taking all your rights away permanently.

The part the people don't ever think about is the simple fact that the Law enforcement, the prosecutor, and the judge are all government employees! Isn't that a conflict of interest against the citizens?

Look up the "Rules of Criminal Prosecution" and recognize that "Presentments" have been deemed "Obsolete". Eyes that see and ears that hear my friends.

To the country and the constitution, NOT the government.

Yes but do to threat of force. So it all comes down to fear of the schoolyard bully so to speak?

No, man. Not a threat. They seized my bank account several years ago. It was a lot more than a threat!

So once again it all comes down to having privileges granted by the lords and ladies and not liberty?

But once again on what authority, and who gave it?

Aw, cut it out. You're just being cavalier. You're just standing on a soapbox.

And even that relies on an indoctrinated and ingrained since of patriotism. If one were to use as their defense the constitution it has already been noted that it does not in anyway apply to the individual but the state.

No i'm being rather serious here. Or is it also fear of ridicule from the citizenry that keeps people in line?

I've asked this question since a child OP.

It's weird as hell to me.

cavalier
If you describe a person or their behaviour as cavalier, you are criticizing them because you think that they do not consider other people's feelings or take account of the seriousness of a situation


Whose or what feelings?

Your one of the few, most people just believe it is so, so it is so. They do not bother to wonder IF it is really so, and IF so than why.

for seriousness.

there is a group who don't live like the sheeple
there called OUTLAW BIKERS and there prob. the last free people on the planet.
but that will go over like a turd in the punch bowl

How intuitive, it's probably got a bit to do with indoctrination that most are led to believe is education eg. When were you born, well that is a rather obscure question when you consider one is never born but has occasioned to visit the carcass they are in for a brief period to possibly either live a static or dynamic life. Why is it that so many cannot comprehend as simple and yet profound statement as if it is impossible to conceive eternity Macro Micro whatever.

for outlaw bikers freedoms.

I guess such things are unfathomable to most. Their power systems are a fallacy.

Clearly you have an Oppositional defiant disorder please report to your doctor for some drugs to dull you back into "normal"thinking"

I'm with you 100% OP. We are all born free. What right does some governing body have to say they partly own me? Surely I should get a choice? It's bullshit from the ground up.

lol, thats not really solid marraige advice.....

No thanks

You should watch this.