The CIA, Country Music, Satanic Rituals, Mind Control & Hillary Clinton's Sex Slave. How deep does MK Ultra go down the rabbit hole?

What about the parents ?

Grandparents mostly ?

Nice.....

When I first found out about MK-Ultra and related links I tried sharing it with people but found that most thought I was a nutjob kook. Some called me un-american (whatever that means). This was back in 2000 and after 9-ll I got even more anger from people. It's as if discussing, or even trying to discuss (anything let alone conspiracies) conspiracies becomes some kind of threat to people's personal space, as if you were threatening their families or something. I have pinpointed this particular mode of thought.

It's called Nationalism. When you align youself with a group you are beholden to that groups dogmatic philosophy. Just look at how fanatic sports fans can be. The Crips vs. Bloods, Christian against Muslims etc... The big one though is "Patriotism". For some reason this word and it's true meaning has divided many people. I was accused of being unpatriotic from my own sister and inlaws after 9-11 when I openly questioned the official line of what was happening. Isn't it more patriotic to question your leaders in times like that especially? Of course. Patriotism, nationalism, it's all BS designed to prevent you from thinking for yourself. I suppose that's the 'Carlin' influence on me... Open minds and honest investigative skills, logic, learning HOW to think properly before you learn anything, these are the basis for being an informed citizen of the world. This is also what most likely the overwhelming majority of people have no clue about.

So, how do you get the message of topics like MK-Ultra out there without a backlash of ad-hominem attacks? I don't know. Whenever I talk to people about having a genial philisophic discussion on the merits of logical thinking, their eyes just glaze over and change the subject or just leave. Anyway, that's my two cents for the night.

i saw demi moore and ashton kutcher on cnn recently talking about their cause of human trafficking awareness. the trafficking of women. i dont follow them and dont know what they do for their cause. but i was very wary. i had this bizarre thought that maybe THEY are the traffickers or are helping traffickers bringing in .....to purposely corrupt america. and they use this cause of bringing awareness as a smokescreen.

I'm with you OP.

1) I grew up in Alaska playing country music. Sometimes the 'stars' came into Anchorage and believe it or not, these stars ALWAYS had their choice of women. It was a GIVEN. The female 'stars' - not so much perverted. 'Harper Valley PTA' ring a bell? Or 'Satin Sheets'? Yes, I played behind them and many more.

2) I read Cathy's book "TranceFormation of America" many years ago - shocking - but everyplace she mentions about Alaska does, in fact, exist. I used to go to the business college Mark Phillips mentions in the book.

3) My sibling, a professional drummer, played with just about ALL the mega-star country stars during her career. Let me just say that to all those Merle Haggard fans, you'd be devastated at the utter depravity of the man. But he's not the only one by a long shot. Tanya Tucker? A wild child if there ever was one. Betcha you love their voices and their music...actually, so do I. They ARE good.

4) Drug running is another GIVEN in country music.

5) Getting yourself OUT of the music industry, even as small scale as I was, is NEVER easy. If you do stay, you probably won't live past 60. It's a hard life even though you're having fun because you love playing. It is a drug in itself.

6) My father never prevented the country stars I played from taking advantage of me - even at a VERY young age. A lot of physical, mental and sexual abuse went on. I'm amazed I'm still sane. Physically, I am a mess. He almost sold me on going to Las Vegas with a Japanese country artist (some local yocal in Japan anyways) - at the age of 16. Dear old Dad didn't care what happened to me - bastard that he still is. I can't imagine what Cathy went through when HER father sold her to the CIA at such a tender age - what an outrage.

7) The MAFIA wanted to recruit my sibling to go to Nashville and become a singing star - at age 17. Today, that's old, but if there's one thing I learned, if you are SELECTED to be a star, YOUR LIFE IS NEVER YOUR OWN. YOU ARE OWNED. She refused and has been living barely above poverty ever since - though, for her sake, she made the right decision. However, from her drug and alcohol use for the past 40 years as a musician, I give her another year or two of living.

8) Trauma-based mind control is EVERYWHERE. It is REAL. And I bet most people think 'Oh, that's just conspiracy crap' - as they watch the biggest and dangerous mind-control tool on the planet - the TV.

9) Music has been known for CENTURIES (since Plato actually) that MUSIC (or MUSE) can control millions. Plato thought way back then all musicians should be licensed before they ply their trade as to not unduly affect the young. He was right. Now look what music has evolved into - thanks for the efforts of a certain institution in London (I'd mention it only I would get banned - again).

Each generation is GIVEN their music. TPTB just want the masses to think THEIR generation came up it with all by themselves. WRONG. I've worked with music producers, I've played back-up on some records - nothing big, like Nashville nor Nashville stars but let me put it to you this way - it was all very abusive and controlled. One star I recorded with eventually had a one-hit wonder but long after I left the industry.

10) When you see your favorite 'star', either on TV or listening to them through your headphones, realize these people are OWNED and MIND-CONTROLLED to the nth degree. And thus, so are you. Same can be said about politicians -examples being the Clintons, Reagan and the Bush boys.

11) I can verify No. 10 above because I've seen politicians 'at work' working the scene in nightclubs and bars. You'd be amazed if you saw them go 'at it' with your own eyes. One of them that I met ran for the presidency even though he was not successful.

Just sayin...from my experience.

Sorry, but the Cathy O'Brien stuff is WAY to out there to be believed. I'm sure she believes it, may have suffered trauma and abuse, but all these celebrities are "handlers"? Gimme a break.

To be apart of Hollywood, In hip hop, movie star, model or a singer..You have to join the OTO..Sell your soul to the devil..I wonder why some of the singers that won on American Idol you don't hear of them anymore..Did they realize what they have to do to be famous??

[link to oto-usa.org]

And the reason most "American Idol"-people are never heard from (in any relevant way) after their season is over probably is because.....they suck.

And the majority of those douchebags competing on that show aren't competing because they're artists who love music- they're competing because they want to be rich and famous.

2 completely different things.

PLUS, the people at home voting don't really care about music, per se. They just like the thrill of another season, and another crop of new faces.

When the season's over, well.....that's that.

Bring on the next crop of new faces. And over and over and over....

By definition most of the people who vote on "American Idol" don't give a damn about music in any real way.

That's why they don't follow the careers of the contestants. It's not about the contestants. It's about the thrill of a revolving door of pretty faces and the ability to judge them, one week at a time.

And the contestants themselves, again....with few exceptions these people are not talented/gifted. They're not the Thom Yorkes and/or M.I.A.'s of their generations. They nit-wits with stars in their eyes.

In a lot of ways...they get what they deserve. Real musicians work hard building a fan-base. Touring the country in vans back-and-forth usually for years playing small venues and putting out records on indie-labels.

They may never become "household names", but they make a living playing their music and their fans appreciate their work and follow their careers.

To compare your average brainless "American Idol"-contestant with your average indie-musician is to compare oil and water. And the indie-musician with inegrity will always come on top.

Unless your Jennifer Hudson and you win an Oscar. lol.....(which she kind of deserved...)

And the reason most "American Idol"-people are never heard from (in any relevant way) after their season is over probably is because.....they suck.

And the majority of those douchebags competing on that show aren't competing because they're artists who love music- they're competing because they want to be rich and famous.

2 completely different things.

PLUS, the people at home voting don't really care about music, per se. They just like the thrill of another season, and another crop of new faces.

When the season's over, well.....that's that.

Bring on the next crop of new faces. And over and over and over....

By definition most of the people who vote on "American Idol" don't give a damn about music in any real way.

That's why they don't follow the careers of the contestants. It's not about the contestants. It's about the thrill of a revolving door of pretty faces and the ability to judge them, one week at a time.

And the contestants themselves, again....with few exceptions these people are not talented/gifted. They're not the Thom Yorkes and/or M.I.A.'s of their generations. They nit-wits with stars in their eyes.

In a lot of ways...they get what they deserve. Real musicians work hard building a fan-base. Touring the country in vans back-and-forth usually for years playing small venues and putting out records on indie-labels.

They may never become "household names", but they make a living playing their music and their fans appreciate their work and follow their careers.

To compare your average brainless "American Idol"-contestant with your average indie-musician is to compare oil and water. And the indie-musician with inegrity will always come on top.

Unless your Jennifer Hudson and you win an Oscar. lol.....(which she kind of deserved...)

Hell yeah, Nosaj.

HELL YEAH. HOLD ME BACK HOLD ME BACK!!!! It's on.

Summer 2011 agenda for The Syndicate: all-out, no holds barred, unmerciless, fuck all the bullshit, full frontal, heat-seeking assault on the shape-shifting, masonic, pedophile denizens of country music.

Fuck all the bullshit. Their time has come. Stetson-wearin' twats.

First on my to-do-list? Conway Twitty. 'Cuz this shit's been going on for too long.....

I'm gonna snort a bunch of adderall and drink, like, 37 Red Bulls and stay awake while I ponder this for about 12 days or so...

I know when I'm done I will have a very high-quality plan many people will be envious of.

Hear that Country Music...? Better get yout shit together.

(ps- Nosaj, do you have contact info for this broad O'Brien...? She sounds like she knows how to party...)

Jennifer Hudson knows damn well that there are folks that will sell their souls for fame and fortune. It is called the Illuminati and you have to pay a price to get up in that space. It has nothing to do with hard work and she as a Christian knows it exists and she knows they run Hollywood. Hollywood is run by sunworshipping freemasons and that is the entry way into it. They are a part of everything, that is why Jesus said you are to hate the world and follow Him.
A child of God would address it and not make people assume it is nonsense or that you don’t make a conscious choice. Yes, some didn”t know what they were getting into, but others certainly do. Many also have to make a sacrifice to maintain that status or show their allegiance. Her relatives deaths are suspect. Were they a sacrifice? Listen to Professor Griff on You Tube to learn more about this wicked conspiracy. You aren’t falling victim to it by learning about it and being aware of their devices. Be prepared and stay close to Jesus! Also, go to You Tube and learn about John Todd, a former illuminati high ranking member who found Christ and exposed them. He was killed for doing so, but the evidence and truth he left behind will continue to save souls.

You shall know them by their fruit. If you know there is a conspiracy, you are to expose it, not tell people that those who reveal the truth are somehow leading others to destruction. I will pray for you!!!

have a friend in the movie business - they have worked w. about everyone you can imagine. He made me swear to secrecy about names and details. He has a wife and 3 kids and wants to keep his job. but I was given an earful. this stuff is true. I've seen him suffer and struggle.
the people at the top- yeah, there's talent. but there's twists to that talent and those people and what it takes to 'make it' most average american's would never believe. same with politicians. sick bunch. but most of you reading this don't believe b.taylor or c. o'brien, why should you believe me. why should I risk my friends job and reputation and name names, when half the readers would just tear my post apart. this stuff is real and has to be exposed ...perps don't like daylight or fresh air.

I ran across something while searching for the names of top country singers involved in the "trade". I have the list, but can't find it. Anyway:

The former governor's connections to abusive "tough love" camps
Maia Szalavitz | June 27, 2007
USA Mormon presidential candidate, Mitt Romney
[link to www.reason.com]
Romney, Torture, and Teens

As The Hill noted last week, 133 plaintiffs filed a civil suit against Romney’s Utah finance co-chair, Robert Lichfield, and his various business entities involved in residential treatment programs for adolescents. The umbrella group for his organization is the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS, sometimes known as WWASP) and Lichfield is its founder and is on its board of directors.

The suit alleges that teens were locked in outdoor dog cages, exercised to exhaustion, deprived of food and sleep, exposed to extreme temperatures without adequate clothing or water, severely beaten, emotionally brutalized, and sexually abused and humiliated. Some were even made to eat their own vomit.

But the link to teen abuse goes far higher up in the Romney campaign. Romney’s national finance co-chair is a man named Mel Sembler. A long time friend of the Bushes, Sembler was campaign finance chair for the Republican party during the first election of George W. Bush, and a major fundraiser for his father.

Like Lichfield, Sembler also founded a nationwide network of treatment programs for troubled youth. Known as Straight Inc., from 1976 to 1993, it variously operated nine programs in seven states.

At all of Straight’s facilities, state investigators and/or civil lawsuits documented scores of abuses including teens being beaten, deprived of food and sleep for days, restrained by fellow youth for hours, bound, sexually humiliated, abused and spat upon.

(Read to page 11 - eye-opening)

[link to www.entheogen.com]

That reminded me of this and MKUltra, the product of this butcher's experiments:

Much of the preliminary experimentation concerning genetic engineering and BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION was conducted by Dr. JOSEF MENGELE at Auschwitz, where he coldly analyzed the effects of TRAUMA-BONDING, eye-coloring and "twinning" upon his victims. Besides the insidious surgical experimentation performed at the concentration camp, some of the CHILDREN were subjected to massive amounts of electroshock. Sadly, many of them did not survive the brutality.

Just what are those "treatment programs" all about where our kids are being sent for "behavior modification"?
.

i saw demi moore and ashton kutcher on cnn recently talking about their cause of human trafficking awareness. the trafficking of women. i dont follow them and dont know what they do for their cause. but i was very wary. i had this bizarre thought that maybe THEY are the traffickers or are helping traffickers bringing in .....to purposely corrupt america. and they use this cause of bringing awareness as a smokescreen.

I'm with you OP.

1) I grew up in Alaska playing country music. Sometimes the 'stars' came into Anchorage and believe it or not, these stars ALWAYS had their choice of women. It was a GIVEN. The female 'stars' - not so much perverted. 'Harper Valley PTA' ring a bell? Or 'Satin Sheets'? Yes, I played behind them and many more.

2) I read Cathy's book "TranceFormation of America" many years ago - shocking - but everyplace she mentions about Alaska does, in fact, exist. I used to go to the business college Mark Phillips mentions in the book.

3) My sibling, a professional drummer, played with just about ALL the mega-star country stars during her career. Let me just say that to all those Merle Haggard fans, you'd be devastated at the utter depravity of the man. But he's not the only one by a long shot. Tanya Tucker? A wild child if there ever was one. Betcha you love their voices and their music...actually, so do I. They ARE good.

4) Drug running is another GIVEN in country music.

5) Getting yourself OUT of the music industry, even as small scale as I was, is NEVER easy. If you do stay, you probably won't live past 60. It's a hard life even though you're having fun because you love playing. It is a drug in itself.

6) My father never prevented the country stars I played from taking advantage of me - even at a VERY young age. A lot of physical, mental and sexual abuse went on. I'm amazed I'm still sane. Physically, I am a mess. He almost sold me on going to Las Vegas with a Japanese country artist (some local yocal in Japan anyways) - at the age of 16. Dear old Dad didn't care what happened to me - bastard that he still is. I can't imagine what Cathy went through when HER father sold her to the CIA at such a tender age - what an outrage.

7) The MAFIA wanted to recruit my sibling to go to Nashville and become a singing star - at age 17. Today, that's old, but if there's one thing I learned, if you are SELECTED to be a star, YOUR LIFE IS NEVER YOUR OWN. YOU ARE OWNED. She refused and has been living barely above poverty ever since - though, for her sake, she made the right decision. However, from her drug and alcohol use for the past 40 years as a musician, I give her another year or two of living.

8) Trauma-based mind control is EVERYWHERE. It is REAL. And I bet most people think 'Oh, that's just conspiracy crap' - as they watch the biggest and dangerous mind-control tool on the planet - the TV.

9) Music has been known for CENTURIES (since Plato actually) that MUSIC (or MUSE) can control millions. Plato thought way back then all musicians should be licensed before they ply their trade as to not unduly affect the young. He was right. Now look what music has evolved into - thanks for the efforts of a certain institution in London (I'd mention it only I would get banned - again).

Each generation is GIVEN their music. TPTB just want the masses to think THEIR generation came up it with all by themselves. WRONG. I've worked with music producers, I've played back-up on some records - nothing big, like Nashville nor Nashville stars but let me put it to you this way - it was all very abusive and controlled. One star I recorded with eventually had a one-hit wonder but long after I left the industry.

10) When you see your favorite 'star', either on TV or listening to them through your headphones, realize these people are OWNED and MIND-CONTROLLED to the nth degree. And thus, so are you. Same can be said about politicians -examples being the Clintons, Reagan and the Bush boys.

11) I can verify No. 10 above because I've seen politicians 'at work' working the scene in nightclubs and bars. You'd be amazed if you saw them go 'at it' with your own eyes. One of them that I met ran for the presidency even though he was not successful.

Just sayin...from my experience.

Good interview with an ex mind programmer which has been posted before:

A woman who was raised in the Illuminati cult describes a powerful secret organization comprising one per cent of the U.S. population that has infiltrated all social institutions and is covertly preparing a military takeover. Her revelations cast the "war on terror" and "homeland security" in their true light.

"Svali" is the pseudonym of the woman, age 45, who was a mind "programmer" for the cult until 1996. She was the sixth head trainer in the San Diego branch and had 30 trainers reporting to her. She has risked her life to warn humanity of the Illuminati's covert power and agenda.

She describes a sadistic Satanic cult led by the richest and most powerful people in the world. It is largely homosexual and pedophile, practises animal sacrifice and ritual murder. It works "hand in glove" with the CIA and Freemasonry. It is Aryan supremacist (German is spoken at the top) but welcomes Jewish apostates. It controls the world traffic in drugs, guns, pornography and prostitution. It may be the hand behind political assassination, and "terrorism", including Sept. 11, the Maryland sniper and the Bali bomb blast.

It has infiltrated government on a local, state and national level; education and financial institutions; religion and the media. Based in Europe, it plans a "world order" that will make its earlier attempts, Nazism and Communism, look like picnics. One other detail: these people are not happy.

Svali's courageous testimony explains why our children are no longer taught civic values, why they are being habituated to homosexuality and violence, and why our "culture" is descending into nihilism and sexual depravity. It raises the possibility that George W. Bush and his Administration are Illuminists and much of the world "elite" is engaged in a mind-boggling criminal conspiracy.

MP3 file (right click and save)
[link to projectcamelot.org]

for the truth cannot be contained or buried




even as many are silenced, more will speak out until this madness stops


the predators will be devoured.



by their own hand they have unleashed the whirlwind and it shall pursue them until they are consumed.

Excellent information. I am quite concerned actually about the digits chosen for these hotels, especially 1111 Bell Road. 11:11 Does it RING a BELL? And then before you know it...POOF! Off she goes to Nashville from Michigan. I wonder if many handlers were in fact trained/recruited there. It is quite possible the Hotel was in such close proximity so the handlers/stars could covertly go to these locations and have their way, any way, with the victims.

The info on what counties many of these stars come from are very important. I am curious, do many country music stars marry within the industry? I am really not familiar with it but again would paint a clearer canvas to me.