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Is anyone real anymore?

 
KBambi

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Throwing out a Saturday morning topic.....


Why is it that it seems everyone these days is always someone else? It seems that there is an underlying motive or personality that always rears in the times when doors are finally being opened.

Are the days of the handshake deal really gone? If not, where are these people that mean what they say and say what they mean?

Trust, to humanities detriment, has become a multifaceted term that at one time meant something. Something that was attached to a length of time. These days, it's 'trust while convenient'. Don't hand out something whole, unless you are ready to get it back in jagged pieces, tied to mendacious reasoning.

"Let's make a deal", "I'll pay you back", "I mean what I say"


Why is this getting so bad?
 Quoting: Gradient


It is written. Psyhcological and spiritual warfare. And BUMP +1

liesin
"We are locked in a battle. This is not a friendly, gentleman's discussion. It is a life and death conflict between the spiritual hosts of wickedness and those who claim the name of Jesus Christ."

"Search for the truth is the noblest occupation of man; its publication is a duty.”

Anne Louise Germaine de Stael (1766-1817), French author

“In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.”

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but Latin is dead -- and the current English tongue used in America has many if not all of the traits that brought down Rome
 Quoting: Sugarelf


I would love to see a thread on that comparison.
 Quoting: Gradient



'course for the record, it is Vulgar Latin specifically -- Latin evolved and changed just like English is doing now -- Romans figured out how to bull-shit their way though life just like many Americans do

anyways, as far as the time element, well that goes to the concept of Honor i believe, and the distinct difference between the terms behavior and conduct


honor basically means 'one' and is the heart of the term 'ego' --

honor = 1

efficiency -- honor -- fidelity

that is the recipe for good conduct:
:elf:

e1f
Xen_

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06/04/2011 02:10 AM
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You worded this problem/issue in a way which I wish I would've described. I see/deal with this bullshit fakeness all the time. Literally someone might promise something only to not follow-through.

I strive to be genuine in all mediums of communications. It's the intention that counts.
Gradient  (OP)

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06/04/2011 02:13 AM
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You worded this problem/issue in a way which I wish I would've described. I see/deal with this bullshit fakeness all the time. Literally someone might promise something only to not follow-through.

I strive to be genuine in all mediums of communications. It's the intention that counts.
 Quoting: Xen_


Sounds like you knew just how I felt.
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06/04/2011 02:14 AM
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To be or not to be?...that is the question
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People are using language (and handshakes) only to manipulate and control.

If you're still "speaking" and expecting truth, you've yet to transcend the bullshit/dreamstate/reality layer.

Realize what's real, and what's real will be obvious.

It's really like seeing the world through NEO's eyes.. and yea if people find out that you know they are full of shit, you can be ostracized, even from lifelong friends and family.

If they can't manipulate you, they have no use for you, they'll seek weaker targets.

Why I'm not sure I still get caught... I still want to trust them instead of the truth at times. Example I bought something at a garage sale and the lady was very nice, I made an offer, she bit right away, in that moment truth was revealed to me, so I asked to reaffirm my suspicion, "I'm assuming this works"... she paused and said "yes the instructions are all there"... did you catch the deception in her words? She answered a question I didn't ask. I didn't catch it until later when I plugged it in and it worked for 5 minutes before crappin out. $20 lesson.

The demons are running amok, and if you're not seeing them for who they really are you are losing the spiritual war that is going on all around you. They want everything you have, and they will trick you in to selling them your soul before you even realize it.

What's real is truth and it's available to all who are able to discern and see it for what it is. It's not easy, only by way of the LORD any of us stand a chance in this day and age.
yoda
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06/04/2011 02:16 AM
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It is written. Psyhcological and spiritual warfare. And BUMP +1

:liesin:
 Quoting: KBambi


Exactly +1

What was I rambling about again?
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06/04/2011 02:19 AM
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Re: Is anyone real anymore?
NO G , anyone is not real ..............anymore, and I understand.
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Re: Is anyone real anymore?
greed and lies will win in a world with an economy and

religion.

the lying ptb have shown the masses that in this world

bullshit wins, and the masses are emulating them more and more

each day.
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06/04/2011 02:22 AM
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I lost over 75k on a handshake deal. That was the last time I trusted anyone in business dealings I should say....

But it was by the shaking of the hand, looking in the eyes and meaning what we say. I delivered and when it came time for the payday.....well you know the rest of the story...
 Quoting: Mukk1234


^^^ this
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I lost over 75k on a handshake deal. That was the last time I trusted anyone in business dealings I should say....

But it was by the shaking of the hand, looking in the eyes and meaning what we say. I delivered and when it came time for the payday.....well you know the rest of the story...
 Quoting: Mukk1234


How did you acquire the "Clint Eastwood" avatar OR more importantly............WHY? Just curious.........tempted to wind you up but I'll leave you be............
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I am very real.
 Quoting: D. Bunker


Many here are more real behind a screen than in life. Not talking about you, but true none the less.


funny you make a post like this, with an avatar like that.
 Quoting: Ceraphic


At least you aren't bigoted, right?
 Quoting: Gradient


the poster makes an insightful observation about your avatar I think, not bigoted. You raised the question, so it's interesting to think about how avatars are supposed to reflect what we WANT people to see or think about us. You have chosen a fictional and fantastical and horrific avatar that, supposedly, is trying to convey something about you you want us to know. So...it's actually a good point.

On another point, your question reminded me of the old saying “Integrity is doing the right thing, even if nobody is watching.” I don't think most people do that anymore.
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I lost over 75k on a handshake deal. That was the last time I trusted anyone in business dealings I should say....

But it was by the shaking of the hand, looking in the eyes and meaning what we say. I delivered and when it came time for the payday.....well you know the rest of the story...
 Quoting: Mukk1234


Trust but confirm!

Sorry about your bad event. That sucks. Hope you were able to go after the bastard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1412275


............first we try, then we MAY trust..........
Gradient  (OP)

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06/04/2011 02:29 AM
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new topic in a topic....what if it as simple as finding something that you were really part off in the first place.......just something to hold off distraction until the deed is done
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new topic in a topic....what if it as simple as finding something that you were really part off in the first place.......just something to hold off distraction until the deed is done
 Quoting: Gradient


I'll listen or play......
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Throwing out a Saturday morning topic.....


Why is it that it seems everyone these days is always someone else? It seems that there is an underlying motive or personality that always rears in the times when doors are finally being opened.

Are the days of the handshake deal really gone? If not, where are these people that mean what they say and say what they mean?

Trust, to humanities detriment, has become a multifaceted term that at one time meant something. Something that was attached to a length of time. These days, it's 'trust while convenient'. Don't hand out something whole, unless you are ready to get it back in jagged pieces, tied to mendacious reasoning.

"Let's make a deal", "I'll pay you back", "I mean what I say"


Why is this getting so bad?
 Quoting: Gradient


Not real as in "username" and "avatar" ?
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abduct
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abduct
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Fooking Brit.........what's up Wanker?
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abduct
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1413911


Fooking Brit.........what's up Wanker?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290759


A Britt with NO.......Cl*T............LMFAO....Fair soldiers but other than that..........NO ONE IS REAL on the thread
Gradient  (OP)

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new topic in a topic....what if it as simple as finding something that you were really part off in the first place.......just something to hold off distraction until the deed is done
 Quoting: Gradient


I'll listen or play......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1290759




Well if someone says for all time that things will be so great...granted..the situation is a little different but it can be done! .............................

oh wait, it cant. take what you have been feeding these leather bound tomes of nurturing and wisdom and set them alight!

Setting the knowledge bound tomes to light is clearly metaphorical and should not be done by those outside a camp fire.

Last Edited by Gradient on 06/04/2011 09:07 AM
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Ethics are boundaries. And fewer and fewer ethics are being handed down with each generations parents as they allow their offspring fewer moral restraints/principles then their elders allowed them. Add this with everyone getting what they want now as kids and its a vicious selfish spiral.

Trustworthy people are still out there. But liberalism in its purest individual sense is destroying ethics.
Fear is the father of all lies. ~ A. Crowley
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Last Edited by Gradient on 06/04/2011 03:04 AM
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Am I Wreal?
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Throwing out a Saturday morning topic.....


Why is it that it seems everyone these days is always someone else? It seems that there is an underlying motive or personality that always rears in the times when doors are finally being opened.

Are the days of the handshake deal really gone? If not, where are these people that mean what they say and say what they mean?

Trust, to humanities detriment, has become a multifaceted term that at one time meant something. Something that was attached to a length of time. These days, it's 'trust while convenient'. Don't hand out something whole, unless you are ready to get it back in jagged pieces, tied to mendacious reasoning.

"Let's make a deal", "I'll pay you back", "I mean what I say"


Why is this getting so bad?
 Quoting: Gradient


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Am I Wreal?
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Probably but then again ...........
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Very few...but yes...they're out there.
 Quoting: ArunaLuna

Agreed. I have real great neighbors that have helped me out. When my car was out of action they'd always ask if I needed a ride to the supermarket or needed anything.
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I blame TV.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407975


Not even. "When looking for blame for allowing things to get the way they are, we have to go no farther then looking in a mirror." From the movie "V". We have allowed the government and TPTB (Satan) to control all of us sheep. Until we unify as one human family and kick their asses out of the seats of power, things and relationships will continue to go down hill. Nobody is going to save us. We must save ourselves! Namaste!
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The demons are running amok, and if you're not seeing them for who they really are you are losing the spiritual war that is going on all around you. They want everything you have, and they will trick you in to selling them your soul before you even realize it.

What's real is truth and it's available to all who are able to discern and see it for what it is. It's not easy, only by way of the LORD any of us stand a chance in this day and age.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1330562

You hit the nail on the head. They teach "situational ethics" for a very important reason. Give lying a fancy name and then its much easier to get people to sell their souls without even realizing it.

I think the most important sentence in the bible is John 1:1 where it explains just who we really are. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God".

So in the beginning before there was anything there was the "word" and it was always there and did not have to be created. Man was made in the image of God, so if God is the "word" then man is his "word", its as simple as that. If your "word" is no good then you are no good.

What better way to get man so far away from who he really is than to get man to voluntarily destroy his own "word" and by doing so destroys himself?


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Throwing out a Saturday morning topic.....


Why is it that it seems everyone these days is always someone else? It seems that there is an underlying motive or personality that always rears in the times when doors are finally being opened.

Are the days of the handshake deal really gone? If not, where are these people that mean what they say and say what they mean?

Trust, to humanities detriment, has become a multifaceted term that at one time meant something. Something that was attached to a length of time. These days, it's 'trust while convenient'. Don't hand out something whole, unless you are ready to get it back in jagged pieces, tied to mendacious reasoning.

"Let's make a deal", "I'll pay you back", "I mean what I say"


Why is this getting so bad?
 Quoting: Gradient


Hehheh...that is sort of the constitution of politics.
Wasn't it always..?

Anyway, the dynamics of integrity and its opposite have been with us
for as long as we've been human, I guess.
But I think you are right, it is getting worse - as everything polarizes at
accelerating speed.
Fact is, taking part in society without adhering to absolute political
correctness has become damned near as impossible in "democracy" as
under totalitarianism.

Fantastic opportunity to be oneself! :)


Peace to you & yours, OP hi
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Re: Is anyone real anymore?
As a decendant of Queen Elizabeth, I will tell you that we are all DONE! 'THEY' have created a new more powerful YET subservient being to bend to their will!





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