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Is anyone real anymore?

 
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And have you noticed that these same people who have wronged you will tell everyone how you wronged them or other in some way? They will even make things up to make you into a villain which in some way, in their minds, justifies not paying you back.

 Quoting: January Wolves

I have seen that happen to others yeah.
 Quoting: Gradient


This is not limited to just money either. I had a guy living near me who would neglect his dog every day. Leaving it to bark all night, roaming the streets all day while he was out (presumably working), yelling at it from inside his building when all the dog wanted was to go inside and be warm.

I tried a few different techniques to try and get him to take responsibility but in the end I simply had to call the authorities at which point he tried to put the blame on me saying it was my cat's fault for sitting on top of the fence on the odd occasion. Incredibly dumb.

kthx.
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Tired of all these damn christians, muslims, jews, the church of this and the church of that. I fart in your general direction.

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I am very real.
 Quoting: D. Bunker


Many here are more real behind a screen than in life. Not talking about you, but true none the less.


funny you make a post like this, with an avatar like that.
 Quoting: Ceraphic


At least you aren't bigoted, right?
 Quoting: Gradient


Anyone with a scary looking avatar can't be a real person (nor a good person), at all!. It's impossible. I dare you to prove it isn't.

(j/k)...I used to have this epic and awesome avatar but most everyone hated it. :( Too disturbing. :wtf: I might get the avatar back on here one day for s&g. chuckle
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Throwing out a Saturday morning topic.....


Why is it that it seems everyone these days is always someone else? It seems that there is an underlying motive or personality that always rears in the times when doors are finally being opened.

Are the days of the handshake deal really gone? If not, where are these people that mean what they say and say what they mean?

Trust, to humanities detriment, has become a multifaceted term that at one time meant something. Something that was attached to a length of time. These days, it's 'trust while convenient'. Don't hand out something whole, unless you are ready to get it back in jagged pieces, tied to mendacious reasoning.

"Let's make a deal", "I'll pay you back", "I mean what I say"


Why is this getting so bad?
 Quoting: Gradient



from what i'm observing it's got to do with fear and self interest.
Allot of times fear is out of self interest anyway.
Fear of intimacy
Fear of silence
Fear of loosing something (if you're real and open)
Fear of not getting something (if you're real)
fear of disapproval
fear being taken advantage of
Fear that by giving you will loose something

Being real mean you need to back it up with integrity and so the cost of integrity and being real creates an illusion of loss on the part of the person

loss of money
loss of intended outcomes
loss of feeling superior
loss of getting ahead
loss of feeling on top
Loss of your illusionary self esteem based on material gains

Add to that the corporate lifestyle we live in.
Most that have a job know that you cannot be real and need to put on a mask at work for thr "corporation" and this "culture" follows us outside of work

It sucks really, it's created for us not to be ourselves, our real authentic selves
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Sadly we are in "those times" where most are "lovers of themselves..." and they look out for number 1-ignorant that all of us, the entire planet is as One and ALL is connected


Ignorant selfish and cold in their hearts-they have turned away from humanity and practice the law of the jungle


some ascribe to a higher truth, as godlike is their divine heritage


others, most are beholden to their reptile mind, hive mind, animal nature-so shall they act as animals...simple minded they cannot envision the divine for it is not in them

Take care Gradient
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Throwing out a Saturday morning topic.....


Why is it that it seems everyone these days is always someone else? It seems that there is an underlying motive or personality that always rears in the times when doors are finally being opened.

Are the days of the handshake deal really gone? If not, where are these people that mean what they say and say what they mean?

Trust, to humanities detriment, has become a multifaceted term that at one time meant something. Something that was attached to a length of time. These days, it's 'trust while convenient'. Don't hand out something whole, unless you are ready to get it back in jagged pieces, tied to mendacious reasoning.

"Let's make a deal", "I'll pay you back", "I mean what I say"


Why is this getting so bad?
 Quoting: Gradient



from what i'm observing it's got to do with fear and self interest.
Allot of times fear is out of self interest anyway.
Fear of intimacy
Fear of silence
Fear of loosing something (if you're real and open)
Fear of not getting something (if you're real)
fear of disapproval
fear being taken advantage of
Fear that by giving you will loose something

Being real mean you need to back it up with integrity and so the cost of integrity and being real creates an illusion of loss on the part of the person

loss of money
loss of intended outcomes
loss of feeling superior
loss of getting ahead
loss of feeling on top
Loss of your illusionary self esteem based on material gains

Add to that the corporate lifestyle we live in.
Most that have a job know that you cannot be real and need to put on a mask at work for thr "corporation" and this "culture" follows us outside of work

It sucks really, it's created for us not to be ourselves, our real authentic selves
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407134


It's to reduce a spirit into a moldable form to prepare for Entry into the true kingdom, this is just a spiritual spawning ground.
Tired of all these damn christians, muslims, jews, the church of this and the church of that. I fart in your general direction.

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Why you look so sad in that picture?
 Quoting: Haha TolD ya so


Not sad...focused.

hf
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


arunaluna's response to, is that is her in her actual avatar: "That's not me." April 25 at 7:57pm

but she is authentic.........pppfffftttt
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Why you look so sad in that picture?
 Quoting: Haha TolD ya so


Not sad...focused.

hf
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


arunaluna's response to, is that is her in her actual avatar: "That's not me." April 25 at 7:57pm

but she is authentic.........pppfffftttt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403377

better wrote...

arunaluna's response to if the in her actual avatar is herself: "That's not me."
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Why you look so sad in that picture?
 Quoting: Haha TolD ya so


Not sad...focused.

hf
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


arunaluna's response to, is that is her in her actual avatar: "That's not me." April 25 at 7:57pm

but she is authentic.........pppfffftttt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403377

better wrote...

arunaluna's response to if the in her actual avatar is herself: "That's not me."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403377


i mean, better written another do
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who are you really g?
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Why you look so sad in that picture?
 Quoting: Haha TolD ya so


Not sad...focused.

hf
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


arunaluna's response to, is that is her in her actual avatar: "That's not me." April 25 at 7:57pm

but she is authentic.........pppfffftttt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403377

better wrote...

arunaluna's response to if the in her actual avatar is herself: "That's not me."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403377


LOL...I NEVER use my REAL picture in an AV...for the benefit of all mankind trust me...I'm no beauty queen. There's more to others than their physical beauty or lack of it. And often pretty pictures distract those (like you) who get hung up on that kind of stuff...and allow those who aren't (like that poster HaHa) to recognize what's REAL.
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Not sad...focused.

hf
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


arunaluna's response to, is that is her in her actual avatar: "That's not me." April 25 at 7:57pm

but she is authentic.........pppfffftttt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403377

better wrote...

arunaluna's response to if the in her actual avatar is herself: "That's not me."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403377


i mean, better written another do
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403377


omg...

arunaluna's response to if that in her actual avatar is herself: "That's not me." April 25 at 7:57pm
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Not sad...focused.

hf
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


arunaluna's response to, is that is her in her actual avatar: "That's not me." April 25 at 7:57pm

but she is authentic.........pppfffftttt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403377

better wrote...

arunaluna's response to if the in her actual avatar is herself: "That's not me."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403377


LOL...I NEVER use my REAL picture in an AV...for the benefit of all mankind trust me...I'm no beauty queen. There's more to others than their physical beauty or lack of it. And often pretty pictures distract those (like you) who get hung up on that kind of stuff...and allow those who aren't (like that poster HaHa) to recognize what's REAL.
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


just don't imply those pictures are of yourself, 'real' person
Haha TolD ya so

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Beauty never boasts and often blushes when acknowledged.
Tired of all these damn christians, muslims, jews, the church of this and the church of that. I fart in your general direction.

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Throwing out a Saturday morning topic.....


Why is it that it seems everyone these days is always someone else? It seems that there is an underlying motive or personality that always rears in the times when doors are finally being opened.

Are the days of the handshake deal really gone? If not, where are these people that mean what they say and say what they mean?

Trust, to humanities detriment, has become a multifaceted term that at one time meant something. Something that was attached to a length of time. These days, it's 'trust while convenient'. Don't hand out something whole, unless you are ready to get it back in jagged pieces, tied to mendacious reasoning.

"Let's make a deal", "I'll pay you back", "I mean what I say"


Why is this getting so bad?
 Quoting: Gradient

It's because people have been conditioned by propaganda advertising to expect outrageous promises. I tell people right away that I will do what I can, but promise nothing, and they don't like it. Oh well...
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Beauty never boasts and often blushes when acknowledged.
 Quoting: Haha TolD ya so


blablabla...i already know those idealistic and few time practiced, cliques
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Throwing out a Saturday morning topic.....


Why is it that it seems everyone these days is always someone else? It seems that there is an underlying motive or personality that always rears in the times when doors are finally being opened.

Are the days of the handshake deal really gone? If not, where are these people that mean what they say and say what they mean?

Trust, to humanities detriment, has become a multifaceted term that at one time meant something. Something that was attached to a length of time. These days, it's 'trust while convenient'. Don't hand out something whole, unless you are ready to get it back in jagged pieces, tied to mendacious reasoning.

"Let's make a deal", "I'll pay you back", "I mean what I say"


Why is this getting so bad?
 Quoting: Gradient

It's because people have been conditioned by propaganda advertising to expect outrageous promises. I tell people right away that I will do what I can, but promise nothing, and they don't like it. Oh well...
 Quoting: warpcrafter



Promises hold very little weight in today's world, many broken, so few fulfilled.
Tired of all these damn christians, muslims, jews, the church of this and the church of that. I fart in your general direction.

Brian the Lion the Onion of France aka The Anti Christ, Lucifer
Merlin The White Necromancer
Paolin
The Evil One - King Solomon
RaHolDon MeTeTron HoPe
JETT
King Of Atlantis
Last of The Fallen
Zeus of Olympus
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Beauty never boasts and often blushes when acknowledged.
 Quoting: Haha TolD ya so


blablabla...i already know those idealistic and few time practiced, cliques
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*cliche

bash
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Beauty never boasts and often blushes when acknowledged.
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blablabla...i already know those idealistic and few time practiced, cliques
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403377


*cliche

bash
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1403377


*cliches

bad day to speeky ingrish.....
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Throwing out a Saturday morning topic.....


Why is it that it seems everyone these days is always someone else? It seems that there is an underlying motive or personality that always rears in the times when doors are finally being opened.

Are the days of the handshake deal really gone? If not, where are these people that mean what they say and say what they mean?

Trust, to humanities detriment, has become a multifaceted term that at one time meant something. Something that was attached to a length of time. These days, it's 'trust while convenient'. Don't hand out something whole, unless you are ready to get it back in jagged pieces, tied to mendacious reasoning.

"Let's make a deal", "I'll pay you back", "I mean what I say"


Why is this getting so bad?
 Quoting: Gradient



Because people aren't allowed to discipline their children anymore, and they turn out to be shitty adults with zero character. The "mean what I say, say what I mean" generations are a thing of the past.

Hate to be "that dude" but I do think video games, music, and TV have a lot to do with the decline of western civilization.
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Throwing out a Saturday morning topic.....


Why is it that it seems everyone these days is always someone else? It seems that there is an underlying motive or personality that always rears in the times when doors are finally being opened.

Are the days of the handshake deal really gone? If not, where are these people that mean what they say and say what they mean?

Trust, to humanities detriment, has become a multifaceted term that at one time meant something. Something that was attached to a length of time. These days, it's 'trust while convenient'. Don't hand out something whole, unless you are ready to get it back in jagged pieces, tied to mendacious reasoning.

"Let's make a deal", "I'll pay you back", "I mean what I say"


Why is this getting so bad?
 Quoting: Gradient


because you are living in the 50's where people were naive
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Maybe so, but does not the ego focus on one unique area of time when dealing with another singly?
 Quoting: Gradient


I don't know. We all play different roles depending on who we're interacting with. Maybe you should look at your own behavior when you're encountering an unreal person. Perhaps you could force the other person to play a different role?
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Ive never been able to play any role other than ME
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Throwing out a Saturday morning topic.....


Why is it that it seems everyone these days is always someone else? It seems that there is an underlying motive or personality that always rears in the times when doors are finally being opened.

Are the days of the handshake deal really gone? If not, where are these people that mean what they say and say what they mean?

Trust, to humanities detriment, has become a multifaceted term that at one time meant something. Something that was attached to a length of time. These days, it's 'trust while convenient'. Don't hand out something whole, unless you are ready to get it back in jagged pieces, tied to mendacious reasoning.

"Let's make a deal", "I'll pay you back", "I mean what I say"


Why is this getting so bad?
 Quoting: Gradient



from what i'm observing it's got to do with fear and self interest.
Allot of times fear is out of self interest anyway.
Fear of intimacy
Fear of silence
Fear of loosing something (if you're real and open)
Fear of not getting something (if you're real)
fear of disapproval
fear being taken advantage of
Fear that by giving you will loose something

Being real mean you need to back it up with integrity and so the cost of integrity and being real creates an illusion of loss on the part of the person

loss of money
loss of intended outcomes
loss of feeling superior
loss of getting ahead
loss of feeling on top
Loss of your illusionary self esteem based on material gains

Add to that the corporate lifestyle we live in.
Most that have a job know that you cannot be real and need to put on a mask at work for thr "corporation" and this "culture" follows us outside of work

It sucks really, it's created for us not to be ourselves, our real authentic selves
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407134


You nailed it AC; I asked this same question 5 yrs and going within first and then studying other people, this was my conclusion as well. I'm still workin on removing myself from this frame of mind, starting with the corp lifestyle...fear is killing us....Good Luck Everyone!
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And have you noticed that these same people who have wronged you will tell everyone how you wronged them or other in some way? They will even make things up to make you into a villain which in some way, in their minds, justifies not paying you back.

 Quoting: January Wolves

I have seen that happen to others yeah.
 Quoting: Gradient


This is not limited to just money either. I had a guy living near me who would neglect his dog every day. Leaving it to bark all night, roaming the streets all day while he was out (presumably working), yelling at it from inside his building when all the dog wanted was to go inside and be warm.

I tried a few different techniques to try and get him to take responsibility but in the end I simply had to call the authorities at which point he tried to put the blame on me saying it was my cat's fault for sitting on top of the fence on the odd occasion. Incredibly dumb.

kthx.
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Oh I have one of those neighbors- leaves their dogs out in the heat - barks all day and night - now they have 3, but its me whose the bitch for calling and complaining,,, but they dont seem to notice their dogs are in distress - and as he explains to me, he wants them to bark! So he doesnt care how much of a disturbance they make to neighbors! How inconsiderate can you get?
well guess what, HES A COP NOW!
He can get away with whatever - his wife has threatened me - left a note on my porch - told me to NEVER talk to him or ask for any favors, AS IF< she is dreaming as if I would ask him for one, hes an asshole - and she is an enabler he probably cheats on her - so is jealous of anyone he even looks at!
they are the ones who leave their shit against the fence and now its leaning & ruined ,,of course Im the one at fault because I complained to the HOA! But he just left it there and you cant reason with an asshole! Ive tried!
Ive had others whom I have met a long the way - ones in authority who you are supposed to trust who LIE - I met an EM/T cop ,, who lied to me too - said he was single , not married blah blah
did my own investigation - and found out hes married with three kids
and nothing but a hound - then another so called fireman friend whom I have known for about a yr called me out of the blue ,, to ask me if he could borrow 2000 dollars ,,,R U KIDDING ME!!!
hes got firemans credit union - and fire house buddys - and a girlfriend and a huge family, Ive met them!
but he calls ME to borrow money from,,,REALLY?
Im sick of people lying, taking advantage and in general not taking care of their own shit!
Im becoming a recluse!
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I lost over 75k on a handshake deal. That was the last time I trusted anyone in business dealings I should say....

But it was by the shaking of the hand, looking in the eyes and meaning what we say. I delivered and when it came time for the payday.....well you know the rest of the story...
 Quoting: Mukk1234




That would be the business side of what I am talking about. I had a deal like that with a 'friend'. It was only a grand, but I never saw any of it. He avoids me like the plague now. Funny that.
 Quoting: Gradient


That isn't new. That has been happening since we started. BUT...there is a new and different feeling lately....Too many of us?
 Quoting: Brainsdonthurtabit


ALways get everything in writing - and TRUST NO ONE! and NEVER loan money to ANYONE - you will never see it, unless you want to just help and give it as a gift .....
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Negative energy is lashing out the more it begins to see it's days are numbered as the dominating force on Earth. The funny thing is, you think it could get worse and everyone would just be totally evil all the time.

But the truth is, Duplicity makes the Evil even darker. This *IS* the worst.

The Shift is coming.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


I regret to say that I don't think we've seen the worse. The worst will come when the stress is the greatest .. and we are not there yet.. watch, protect, survive.
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Negative energy is lashing out the more it begins to see it's days are numbered as the dominating force on Earth. The funny thing is, you think it could get worse and everyone would just be totally evil all the time.

But the truth is, Duplicity makes the Evil even darker. This *IS* the worst.

The Shift is coming.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


I regret to say that I don't think we've seen the worse. The worst will come when the stress is the greatest .. and we are not there yet.. watch, protect, survive.
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your right , we are seeing it - and yes will get worse,
,,,, just got a note from a SR friend in the email today ,,,in his 70's
who had his vehicles broken into - and lost $ 400 in repairs ....
just at local parks,, just going out for walks!
So sad, on fixed income, and does nothing but good in the community - takes his dog and visits vets and does dog therapy - just pisses me off he is the one that took these hits.
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Well,I will be honest, for a moment. I am not real. I don't act real and wouldn't dare show you the real me. The real me has been hurt far too many times so I've created a shell and hide within it. It's a good shell. Honest, upright, and socially acceptable.. but then so should the real me be.
But no, everytime I tried to be me, someone wanted to take a shot. So fuck them, I'll wait for my next lifetime and hopefully land on a planet that understands love and compassion. As far as I am concerned the only description I can apply to humans is MEAN and I really feel for the few who aren't.
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Define "real."
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I was born and raised in a small town...still live in that same small town for a reason..PEOPLE ARE REAL...neighbors and friends still help eachother out and watch eachothers`s backs...if somebody gets gravely ill the whole town pulls together...we accept people for who they are no matter what their personality is...We have one bar in our town and it`s the coolest damn bar I`ve ever been too and I have been to many...Good down to earth people who always meet ya with a hand shake and a smile...
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Same here. Mostly country out here. Anytime we're driving down the road and see another vehicle we always exchange a smile and a wave regardless if we know each other or not.

Love small towns...
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