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NATO symbol is the Swastika/National Socialist Empire

 
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And what you don't realize is that NAZI's never gave a shit about race, it was always about the imperialist society.


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That's exactly right. Hitler was merely a tool for the beast, and the beasts objective was never truly about race. It was about the enslavement of mankind like the Jews during the time the Pyramids were built.

"Empire, Empire. I have no enthusiasm for it"

Russian Ark

The Empire is a reference to the New World Order system of government the beast has been trying to realize upon the physical world. Hitler and the Nazi's was his last attempt at attaining a foothold in this world.

"The last time Voldemort gained power, he almost destroyed everything we hold dear"

Remus Lupin, Harry Potter




Thats what the radical religion has been about, terrorism. This is the beasts method of trying to establish a foot hold in this world. The implementation of the mark of the beast. The control of mankind by computers operated by the hosts people in service to Babylon. Decreased freedoms and safety measures designed to prevent further acts of terror. RFID tracking, etc.

The Russians were fighting against this empire along with moderate Muslims in Afghanistan in the late 70's and early 80's against the initial elements of the radicalism called the Mujahadeen. Religion allows the beast to use people to accomplish his hidden agenda.
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fascism -- government plus corporations oppressing the people

communism -- the government IS the corporation oppressing the people -- the party leadership are the CEOs

in neither case did the workers own their labor
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I'm not going to get into this subject on this thread but for all we know, they could have been only showing one side of the story through out the years.. Know what I mean ?

In ALL countries there are always going to be people against the government, and people for it. It's just the way it is.

We can't always choose the 'popular belief side'...

Both sides will say all sorts of things about the other. It's just the way it is.

The important thing here is that we have a covert fascist organization attempting to control the worlds resources.

It maybe very well that this imperialist fascist society is trying to get a grip on all of the earths prime resources because they want to be in charge after the earth changes maybe ?

Even Hitler use to say, 'We must ensure the survival of our race'....


I think there is a lot more to that quote than one might actually think! And if thats the case, we are in for one hell of a ride. From mankind, and mother nature.

BTW, thank you for the videos
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well . . . what you said here stands out as truth (though we obviously disagree about some other things)

"The important thing here is that we have a covert fascist organization attempting to control the worlds resources."

and you are welcome for the videos :)
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Hey idiot,iamwith

May I ask you how Canada got there and how your lame ass is able to say such things on the internets? Do you even know your true ancestry or the blood that runs through your veins? Let alone true history over the last 1,000 years or so?

NATO is compromised of countries that are aligned with one another like your fawking country. Simply put, if you were not, your ignorant white ass would probably be dead or searching in the garbage dump for food.churchlady
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nato is definetly nazi nwo and now additionally obama world strike force end of discussion - go look up illegal 88 baby bombing campaign on serbia using iranium depleted bombs and the consequences, etc.
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Hey idiot,iamwith

May I ask you how Canada got there and how your lame ass is able to say such things on the internets? Do you even know your true ancestry or the blood that runs through your veins? Let alone true history over the last 1,000 years or so?

NATO is compromised of countries that are aligned with one another like your fawking country. Simply put, if you were not, your ignorant white ass would probably be dead or searching in the garbage dump for food.churchlady
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nato is definetly nazi nwo and now additionally obama world strike force end of discussion - go look up illegal 88 baby bombing campaign on serbia using iranium depleted bombs and the consequences, etc.
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"illegal 88 day baby bombing campaign"
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Bormann ran the third reich from 1942 onwards whilst Hitler 'ran' the war, Bormann begun asset stripping after Stalingrad when he knew thw war was lost.

Through Thyssen, Bormann set up a dialogue with Allan Dulles in Switzerland. The bulk of the money was got out of Germany along with key people, the bribe being the technology the the US needed for the manhatten project, particularly infra red fuses for the Pu bomb.

The bulk of this spoil went to the US.

The influence of Bormann has been foundational in setting up the fourth reich, always the power behind the throne, he was the most powerful man in nazi Germany, and may well have been an 'eminence gris' in post war USA, we may never know.
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Hey idiot,iamwith

May I ask you how Canada got there and how your lame ass is able to say such things on the internets? Do you even know your true ancestry or the blood that runs through your veins? Let alone true history over the last 1,000 years or so?

NATO is compromised of countries that are aligned with one another like your fawking country. Simply put, if you were not, your ignorant white ass would probably be dead or searching in the garbage dump for food.churchlady
 Quoting: ApocalypseWars.com


nato is definetly nazi nwo and now additionally obama world strike force end of discussion - go look up illegal 88 baby bombing campaign on serbia using iranium depleted bombs and the consequences, etc.
 Quoting: fpo fi 1422759


"illegal 88 day baby bombing campaign"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1422759


Here is a very good video if you have time to watch. The man even mentions the cluster bombs that were used during the bombing.

And he doesn't only talk about Yugoslavia, he explains what 'they' have done and do to the entire world and how they do it. AMAZING VIDEO.


No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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[link to www.thejohnfleming.com]

"Reshaping the SS Network

By 1944, Otto Skorzeny was head of Office VI S ("S" for sabotage) of the RSHA, and head of the SD Jagdkommando, the SS's "special operations" unit.

In the post-war period, Skorzeny played a central role in the web of right-wing financial interests, neo-fascist organizations, paramilitary groups, and secret intelligence networks—the true "grandmother" of modern terrorism.

Less prominent members of the SS leadership were spirited out of Germany via the "Rat Line." They first reached Italy, often aided by corrupt Vatican networks, and thence went to Spain, where they either settled, or slipped into Latin American countries. These "Rat Line" escape routes were run by a secret organization of former SS members known as "Odessa." But Odessa could never have been able to smuggle these people out, if it had been acting alone; on the contrary, its operations were, at the very least, protected, and more likely directed, by factions within Anglo-American intelligence circles. Neither the U.S., British, nor the French governments ever put any serious pressure on Franco's Spain, which had become the hub of SS structures worldwide, to curtail or prohibit activities of former Nazis on Spanish territory.

From 1948 through 1950, Skorzeny lived incognito in Paris. His former superior in the SD, Walter Schellenberg, lived first in Switzerland, and then slipped into Italy, where he died in 1952. Skorzeny's postwar career only began in earnest after he resettled in Madrid in 1950. There he married Hjalmar Schacht's niece, Ilse von Finkenstein; Schacht himself also made frequent visits to Madrid. It is estimated that all told, by 1950, about 16,000 Nazi emigrants were living in Spain.

After 1948, Schacht became the main "trustee" of SS assets and other financial transfers out of Nazi Germany, proving beyond doubt that he had been intimately involved in the implementation of the 1944 Strasbourg Conference's decisions. In his post-1948 work to consolidate the scattered SS assets, Schacht was assisted by Skorzeny, who, in turn, brought the Belgian Waffen-SS leader Leon Degrelle to Madrid, and made him into his chief aide. In the early 1950s, Schacht and Skorzeny made frequent "business trips," criss-crossing Europe and Latin America, and extending into the Arab countries, Iran, and Indonesia.

A portion of the SS money sent abroad, was used to build up the international "Odessa" organization of former SS personnel. Around it, there formed a large number of neo-fascist organizations in Europe and in Latin America.

But Skorzeny's "Odessa" also maintained extensive networks of members and supporters in "bourgeois" parties, government administrations, religious organizations, intelligence services, police organizations, and in the militaries of many European, Latin American, and Arab countries. "Odessa" was also active in the international arms trade, mercenary operations, and a vast array of organized crime.

Over the following decades, connections to Skorzeny's SS structures frequently turned up as part of military coups, police-state "sanitizing operations" against opponents of sitting governments, rebel and low-intensity warfare operations, and spectacular assassinations, such as the "Permindex" organization's involvement in the killing of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Typical is their role both in the Algerian opposition movement FLN, as well as in the Organisation Armeé Secrète (OAS), which sought to topple and murder France's General de Gaulle.

With the outbreak of the Cold War, American and British intelligence services' interest in Skorzeny's SS structure grew even more intense. The mentality and war experience of these former SS personnel suited them perfectly for the "covert operations" which Allen Dulles had defined as a major focus of U.S. intelligence-service activity. Many thousands of former German Waffen-SS members, along with Eastern Europeans who had been part of the Waffen-SS and who had later settled in Western Europe, the United States, Canada, or Australia, were recruited for deployment in low-intensity warfare and destabilization operations in the Soviet sphere of influence.

The SS, which, up until 1942, believed that its members' "Nordic" racial characteristics qualified them to be members of the elite, became quite "internationalized" later on. Not only were there Western European and Scandinavian Waffen-SS units, but also Baltic, Ukrainian, Hungarian, Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian, Albanian, and Caucasian ones.

Former Waffen-SS members who had managed to survive inside Soviet-occupied countries following 1945 by going underground, and others who had emigrated into the West, suddenly became immensely valuable to Anglo-American intelligence services. They were to be utilized, in connection with "covert operations," to build up a secret military and political underground infrastructure capable of destabilizing communist regimes in Eastern and Southeastern Europe.



Emblem of "Gladio"
Italian branch of the NATO "stay-behind" paramilitaryorganizations.
The motto means
"Silently, I serve freedom"


During the first half of the 1950s, thanks to Kim Philby's defection to the Russian side, among other things, Communist intelligence services were able to break up most of these military and political underground cells. This, in turn, further increased the value of Eastern European emigrants' organizations which had been established in the West, and which harbored no small contingent of former Waffen-SS members.

On Allen Dulles's initiative, funds from SS assets and elsewhere were used to form the National Committee for a Free Europe (NCFE). Nominally a private organization, it was in fact an Anglo-American intelligence operation, assigned to back the activities of Eastern European emigrant groups.

No less important was the Islamic-Arab component of this SS structure. The Albanian Waffen-SS "Skanderbeg" division, and the Bosnian "Handschar" division, had been set up with the active participation of the Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin Mohamed Al Husseini.

After the war, Al Husseini, with the help of Anglo-American intelligence circles, was able to settle in Cairo, where he resumed his collaboration with Skorzeny, Swiss financier and Nazi activist François Genoud, and SS structures throughout the Arab world.

At the same time, certain factions within the Anglo-American intelligence establishment set up Skorzeny's network of former SS members in Western Europe itself, as deeply covert partisan groups which could be activated in the event of a Soviet invasion of Western Europe. The existence of this network, code-named "Gladio," was first revealed in 1991, in a public statement issued by Italian Prime Minister Guilio Andreotti."

I think Gladio is still around. Very around. More at link and lots about Skorzeny, too: [link to greyfalcon.us]



Gladio – Death Plan For Democracy


by Peter Chamberlin

[link to www.globalresearch.ca]
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"illegal 88 day baby bombing campaign"

88 = HH

Heil Hitler

when you see "88" in graffiti that is what they are saying, "Heil Hitler"
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[link to www.thejohnfleming.com]

"Reshaping the SS Network

By 1944, Otto Skorzeny was head of Office VI S ("S" for sabotage) of the RSHA, and head of the SD Jagdkommando, the SS's "special operations" unit.

In the post-war period, Skorzeny played a central role in the web of right-wing financial interests, neo-fascist organizations, paramilitary groups, and secret intelligence networks—the true "grandmother" of modern terrorism.

Less prominent members of the SS leadership were spirited out of Germany via the "Rat Line." They first reached Italy, often aided by corrupt Vatican networks, and thence went to Spain, where they either settled, or slipped into Latin American countries. These "Rat Line" escape routes were run by a secret organization of former SS members known as "Odessa." But Odessa could never have been able to smuggle these people out, if it had been acting alone; on the contrary, its operations were, at the very least, protected, and more likely directed, by factions within Anglo-American intelligence circles. Neither the U.S., British, nor the French governments ever put any serious pressure on Franco's Spain, which had become the hub of SS structures worldwide, to curtail or prohibit activities of former Nazis on Spanish territory.

From 1948 through 1950, Skorzeny lived incognito in Paris. His former superior in the SD, Walter Schellenberg, lived first in Switzerland, and then slipped into Italy, where he died in 1952. Skorzeny's postwar career only began in earnest after he resettled in Madrid in 1950. There he married Hjalmar Schacht's niece, Ilse von Finkenstein; Schacht himself also made frequent visits to Madrid. It is estimated that all told, by 1950, about 16,000 Nazi emigrants were living in Spain.

After 1948, Schacht became the main "trustee" of SS assets and other financial transfers out of Nazi Germany, proving beyond doubt that he had been intimately involved in the implementation of the 1944 Strasbourg Conference's decisions. In his post-1948 work to consolidate the scattered SS assets, Schacht was assisted by Skorzeny, who, in turn, brought the Belgian Waffen-SS leader Leon Degrelle to Madrid, and made him into his chief aide. In the early 1950s, Schacht and Skorzeny made frequent "business trips," criss-crossing Europe and Latin America, and extending into the Arab countries, Iran, and Indonesia.

A portion of the SS money sent abroad, was used to build up the international "Odessa" organization of former SS personnel. Around it, there formed a large number of neo-fascist organizations in Europe and in Latin America.

But Skorzeny's "Odessa" also maintained extensive networks of members and supporters in "bourgeois" parties, government administrations, religious organizations, intelligence services, police organizations, and in the militaries of many European, Latin American, and Arab countries. "Odessa" was also active in the international arms trade, mercenary operations, and a vast array of organized crime.

Over the following decades, connections to Skorzeny's SS structures frequently turned up as part of military coups, police-state "sanitizing operations" against opponents of sitting governments, rebel and low-intensity warfare operations, and spectacular assassinations, such as the "Permindex" organization's involvement in the killing of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Typical is their role both in the Algerian opposition movement FLN, as well as in the Organisation Armeé Secrète (OAS), which sought to topple and murder France's General de Gaulle.

With the outbreak of the Cold War, American and British intelligence services' interest in Skorzeny's SS structure grew even more intense. The mentality and war experience of these former SS personnel suited them perfectly for the "covert operations" which Allen Dulles had defined as a major focus of U.S. intelligence-service activity. Many thousands of former German Waffen-SS members, along with Eastern Europeans who had been part of the Waffen-SS and who had later settled in Western Europe, the United States, Canada, or Australia, were recruited for deployment in low-intensity warfare and destabilization operations in the Soviet sphere of influence.

The SS, which, up until 1942, believed that its members' "Nordic" racial characteristics qualified them to be members of the elite, became quite "internationalized" later on. Not only were there Western European and Scandinavian Waffen-SS units, but also Baltic, Ukrainian, Hungarian, Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian, Albanian, and Caucasian ones.

Former Waffen-SS members who had managed to survive inside Soviet-occupied countries following 1945 by going underground, and others who had emigrated into the West, suddenly became immensely valuable to Anglo-American intelligence services. They were to be utilized, in connection with "covert operations," to build up a secret military and political underground infrastructure capable of destabilizing communist regimes in Eastern and Southeastern Europe.



Emblem of "Gladio"
Italian branch of the NATO "stay-behind" paramilitaryorganizations.
The motto means
"Silently, I serve freedom"


During the first half of the 1950s, thanks to Kim Philby's defection to the Russian side, among other things, Communist intelligence services were able to break up most of these military and political underground cells. This, in turn, further increased the value of Eastern European emigrants' organizations which had been established in the West, and which harbored no small contingent of former Waffen-SS members.

On Allen Dulles's initiative, funds from SS assets and elsewhere were used to form the National Committee for a Free Europe (NCFE). Nominally a private organization, it was in fact an Anglo-American intelligence operation, assigned to back the activities of Eastern European emigrant groups.

No less important was the Islamic-Arab component of this SS structure. The Albanian Waffen-SS "Skanderbeg" division, and the Bosnian "Handschar" division, had been set up with the active participation of the Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin Mohamed Al Husseini.

After the war, Al Husseini, with the help of Anglo-American intelligence circles, was able to settle in Cairo, where he resumed his collaboration with Skorzeny, Swiss financier and Nazi activist François Genoud, and SS structures throughout the Arab world.

At the same time, certain factions within the Anglo-American intelligence establishment set up Skorzeny's network of former SS members in Western Europe itself, as deeply covert partisan groups which could be activated in the event of a Soviet invasion of Western Europe. The existence of this network, code-named "Gladio," was first revealed in 1991, in a public statement issued by Italian Prime Minister Guilio Andreotti."

I think Gladio is still around. Very around. More at link and lots about Skorzeny, too: [link to greyfalcon.us]



Gladio – Death Plan For Democracy


by Peter Chamberlin

[link to www.globalresearch.ca]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1424119



Very good article for people who aren't aware of such things. I made a few threads in the past stating all of those things. A lot of people don't know about the muslim nazi collaboration. The extreme Muslims were GREAT allies with the Nazi's and had their own SS units. It seems kind of funny how at the time of 9/11 there was a President with a Nazi family past (Bush), and an extreme Muslim connection for the attacks.
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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Thread: the Doppler Effect, the spirals, and Nibiru
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"illegal 88 day baby bombing campaign"

88 = HH

Heil Hitler

when you see "88" in graffiti that is what they are saying, "Heil Hitler"
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VERY INTERESTING..................


This explains the 88 day bombing.....


Thanks for pointing that out !

I always saw 88, and Hitler praising when it came to the modern day Nazi supporters... But I never even thought of the 88 day bombing of Yugoslavia...


EXCELLENT INFO!


YOu should have a look at my thread about NATO funding NEO-NAZI'S during the Yugoslav civil war.

Thread: NATO funded neo-Nazi's during Yugoslav Civil War/breakup of Yugoslavia

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No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

Thread: The real facts about your leaders / The Fascist NWO agenda
Thread: NATO funded neo-Nazi's during Yugoslav Civil War/breakup of Yugoslavia
Thread: NATO symbol is the Swastika/National Socialist Empire
Thread: the Doppler Effect, the spirals, and Nibiru
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Haj Amin went on to found Fatah which is the parent organisation fot the PLO and in more modern times, the PA.

By repute, Arafat was Haj Amin's nepher, and the current PA leader Abbas (Abu Mazin) was a loyal lieutenant.
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Hidden in plain sight just as the Illuminati works.....
And you all keep asking yourselves,

'why are we getting into more wars'.....




Fourth Reich

(if you don't see it, then you are blind or can't admit it)
Here are some photos below and FOCUS YOUR EYES ON EACH PICTURE TAKING A FEW MOMENTS TO REALLY LOOK AT THEM. YOU'LL SEE WHAT I MEAN.


[link to www.trdefence.com]

[link to www.milaz.info]


[link to www.crwflags.com]



[link to www.crwflags.com]


SOON TO BE
[link to flagspot.net]
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wow --

'course folks, the nazi's didn't invent the 'swasticka' -- not by a long shot
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Hidden in plain sight just as the Illuminati works.....
And you all keep asking yourselves,

'why are we getting into more wars'.....




Fourth Reich

(if you don't see it, then you are blind or can't admit it)
Here are some photos below and FOCUS YOUR EYES ON EACH PICTURE TAKING A FEW MOMENTS TO REALLY LOOK AT THEM. YOU'LL SEE WHAT I MEAN.


[link to www.trdefence.com]

[link to www.milaz.info]


[link to www.crwflags.com]



[link to www.crwflags.com]


SOON TO BE
[link to flagspot.net]
 Quoting: MG-42


wow --

'course folks, the nazi's didn't invent the 'swasticka' -- not by a long shot
 Quoting: Sugarelf


The Swastika is an ancient symbol. A lot of people think that it's an ancient symbol for 'good luck'....

I don't buy that one bit. There is a deeper history to that symbol.

The buddist Lama Monks use the same symbol... (Believe it or not, the Tibetan's were good allies with the Nazi's)

The swastika is an ancient imperialist society symbol.

The Lama class is considered a royal class. Which means Imperial. Every single royal is an imperialist.

This is why all royals and royal families are connected one way or another to the 'Nazi regime'.

If you wanna go back even further, it's an ancient alien symbol. This symbol is absolutely 100% secrete society. REgardless what people have been taught about it. Good things, or bad things... This is a secrete society symbol.
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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Thread: the Doppler Effect, the spirals, and Nibiru
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"Reshaping the SS Network

By 1944, Otto Skorzeny was head of Office VI S ("S" for sabotage) of the RSHA, and head of the SD Jagdkommando, the SS's "special operations" unit.

In the post-war period, Skorzeny played a central role in the web of right-wing financial interests, neo-fascist organizations, paramilitary groups, and secret intelligence networks—the true "grandmother" of modern terrorism.

Less prominent members of the SS leadership were spirited out of Germany via the "Rat Line." They first reached Italy, often aided by corrupt Vatican networks, and thence went to Spain, where they either settled, or slipped into Latin American countries. These "Rat Line" escape routes were run by a secret organization of former SS members known as "Odessa." But Odessa could never have been able to smuggle these people out, if it had been acting alone; on the contrary, its operations were, at the very least, protected, and more likely directed, by factions within Anglo-American intelligence circles. Neither the U.S., British, nor the French governments ever put any serious pressure on Franco's Spain, which had become the hub of SS structures worldwide, to curtail or prohibit activities of former Nazis on Spanish territory.

From 1948 through 1950, Skorzeny lived incognito in Paris. His former superior in the SD, Walter Schellenberg, lived first in Switzerland, and then slipped into Italy, where he died in 1952. Skorzeny's postwar career only began in earnest after he resettled in Madrid in 1950. There he married Hjalmar Schacht's niece, Ilse von Finkenstein; Schacht himself also made frequent visits to Madrid. It is estimated that all told, by 1950, about 16,000 Nazi emigrants were living in Spain.

After 1948, Schacht became the main "trustee" of SS assets and other financial transfers out of Nazi Germany, proving beyond doubt that he had been intimately involved in the implementation of the 1944 Strasbourg Conference's decisions. In his post-1948 work to consolidate the scattered SS assets, Schacht was assisted by Skorzeny, who, in turn, brought the Belgian Waffen-SS leader Leon Degrelle to Madrid, and made him into his chief aide. In the early 1950s, Schacht and Skorzeny made frequent "business trips," criss-crossing Europe and Latin America, and extending into the Arab countries, Iran, and Indonesia.

A portion of the SS money sent abroad, was used to build up the international "Odessa" organization of former SS personnel. Around it, there formed a large number of neo-fascist organizations in Europe and in Latin America.

But Skorzeny's "Odessa" also maintained extensive networks of members and supporters in "bourgeois" parties, government administrations, religious organizations, intelligence services, police organizations, and in the militaries of many European, Latin American, and Arab countries. "Odessa" was also active in the international arms trade, mercenary operations, and a vast array of organized crime.

Over the following decades, connections to Skorzeny's SS structures frequently turned up as part of military coups, police-state "sanitizing operations" against opponents of sitting governments, rebel and low-intensity warfare operations, and spectacular assassinations, such as the "Permindex" organization's involvement in the killing of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Typical is their role both in the Algerian opposition movement FLN, as well as in the Organisation Armeé Secrète (OAS), which sought to topple and murder France's General de Gaulle.

With the outbreak of the Cold War, American and British intelligence services' interest in Skorzeny's SS structure grew even more intense. The mentality and war experience of these former SS personnel suited them perfectly for the "covert operations" which Allen Dulles had defined as a major focus of U.S. intelligence-service activity. Many thousands of former German Waffen-SS members, along with Eastern Europeans who had been part of the Waffen-SS and who had later settled in Western Europe, the United States, Canada, or Australia, were recruited for deployment in low-intensity warfare and destabilization operations in the Soviet sphere of influence.

The SS, which, up until 1942, believed that its members' "Nordic" racial characteristics qualified them to be members of the elite, became quite "internationalized" later on. Not only were there Western European and Scandinavian Waffen-SS units, but also Baltic, Ukrainian, Hungarian, Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian, Albanian, and Caucasian ones.

Former Waffen-SS members who had managed to survive inside Soviet-occupied countries following 1945 by going underground, and others who had emigrated into the West, suddenly became immensely valuable to Anglo-American intelligence services. They were to be utilized, in connection with "covert operations," to build up a secret military and political underground infrastructure capable of destabilizing communist regimes in Eastern and Southeastern Europe.



Emblem of "Gladio"
Italian branch of the NATO "stay-behind" paramilitaryorganizations.
The motto means
"Silently, I serve freedom"


During the first half of the 1950s, thanks to Kim Philby's defection to the Russian side, among other things, Communist intelligence services were able to break up most of these military and political underground cells. This, in turn, further increased the value of Eastern European emigrants' organizations which had been established in the West, and which harbored no small contingent of former Waffen-SS members.

On Allen Dulles's initiative, funds from SS assets and elsewhere were used to form the National Committee for a Free Europe (NCFE). Nominally a private organization, it was in fact an Anglo-American intelligence operation, assigned to back the activities of Eastern European emigrant groups.

No less important was the Islamic-Arab component of this SS structure. The Albanian Waffen-SS "Skanderbeg" division, and the Bosnian "Handschar" division, had been set up with the active participation of the Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin Mohamed Al Husseini.

After the war, Al Husseini, with the help of Anglo-American intelligence circles, was able to settle in Cairo, where he resumed his collaboration with Skorzeny, Swiss financier and Nazi activist François Genoud, and SS structures throughout the Arab world.

At the same time, certain factions within the Anglo-American intelligence establishment set up Skorzeny's network of former SS members in Western Europe itself, as deeply covert partisan groups which could be activated in the event of a Soviet invasion of Western Europe. The existence of this network, code-named "Gladio," was first revealed in 1991, in a public statement issued by Italian Prime Minister Guilio Andreotti."

I think Gladio is still around. Very around. More at link and lots about Skorzeny, too: [link to greyfalcon.us]



Gladio – Death Plan For Democracy


by Peter Chamberlin

[link to www.globalresearch.ca]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1424119




ODESSA is a fictional organization that appears in Frederic Forsyth’s 1972 novel The ODESSA File.

There has never been an organization called ODESSA. Nothing had ever been written about an "ODESSA" until Forsyth's novel appeared in 1972.


[link to en.metapedia.org]


* 1 Fictional Group
o 1.1 Bestseller
o 1.2 Use by Jewish Political Groups
o 1.3 Germans Who Escaped Allied Capture


* 2 Reality Behind the Fiction
o 2.1 ODESSA A Myth, Mutual Assistance Not
o 2.2 Postwar Chaos Facilitated Escapes
o 2.3 Escapes to South America
o 2.4 Argentina


..
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Hidden in plain sight just as the Illuminati works.....
And you all keep asking yourselves,

'why are we getting into more wars'.....




Fourth Reich

(if you don't see it, then you are blind or can't admit it)
Here are some photos below and FOCUS YOUR EYES ON EACH PICTURE TAKING A FEW MOMENTS TO REALLY LOOK AT THEM. YOU'LL SEE WHAT I MEAN.


[link to www.trdefence.com]

[link to www.milaz.info]


[link to www.crwflags.com]



[link to www.crwflags.com]


SOON TO BE
[link to flagspot.net]
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wow --

'course folks, the nazi's didn't invent the 'swasticka' -- not by a long shot
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The Swastika is an ancient symbol. A lot of people think that it's an ancient symbol for 'good luck'....

I don't buy that one bit. There is a deeper history to that symbol.

The buddist Lama Monks use the same symbol... (Believe it or not, the Tibetan's were good allies with the Nazi's)

The swastika is an ancient imperialist society symbol.

The Lama class is considered a royal class. Which means Imperial. Every single royal is an imperialist.

This is why all royals and royal families are connected one way or another to the 'Nazi regime'.

If you wanna go back even further, it's an ancient alien symbol. This symbol is absolutely 100% secrete society. REgardless what people have been taught about it. Good things, or bad things... This is a secrete society symbol.
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it is found on pottery from matriarchial societies, too

look a Minoan pottery you will find it
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[link to www.thejohnfleming.com]

"Reshaping the SS Network

By 1944, Otto Skorzeny was head of Office VI S ("S" for sabotage) of the RSHA, and head of the SD Jagdkommando, the SS's "special operations" unit.

In the post-war period, Skorzeny played a central role in the web of right-wing financial interests, neo-fascist organizations, paramilitary groups, and secret intelligence networks—the true "grandmother" of modern terrorism.

Less prominent members of the SS leadership were spirited out of Germany via the "Rat Line." They first reached Italy, often aided by corrupt Vatican networks, and thence went to Spain, where they either settled, or slipped into Latin American countries. These "Rat Line" escape routes were run by a secret organization of former SS members known as "Odessa." But Odessa could never have been able to smuggle these people out, if it had been acting alone; on the contrary, its operations were, at the very least, protected, and more likely directed, by factions within Anglo-American intelligence circles. Neither the U.S., British, nor the French governments ever put any serious pressure on Franco's Spain, which had become the hub of SS structures worldwide, to curtail or prohibit activities of former Nazis on Spanish territory.

From 1948 through 1950, Skorzeny lived incognito in Paris. His former superior in the SD, Walter Schellenberg, lived first in Switzerland, and then slipped into Italy, where he died in 1952. Skorzeny's postwar career only began in earnest after he resettled in Madrid in 1950. There he married Hjalmar Schacht's niece, Ilse von Finkenstein; Schacht himself also made frequent visits to Madrid. It is estimated that all told, by 1950, about 16,000 Nazi emigrants were living in Spain.

After 1948, Schacht became the main "trustee" of SS assets and other financial transfers out of Nazi Germany, proving beyond doubt that he had been intimately involved in the implementation of the 1944 Strasbourg Conference's decisions. In his post-1948 work to consolidate the scattered SS assets, Schacht was assisted by Skorzeny, who, in turn, brought the Belgian Waffen-SS leader Leon Degrelle to Madrid, and made him into his chief aide. In the early 1950s, Schacht and Skorzeny made frequent "business trips," criss-crossing Europe and Latin America, and extending into the Arab countries, Iran, and Indonesia.

A portion of the SS money sent abroad, was used to build up the international "Odessa" organization of former SS personnel. Around it, there formed a large number of neo-fascist organizations in Europe and in Latin America.

But Skorzeny's "Odessa" also maintained extensive networks of members and supporters in "bourgeois" parties, government administrations, religious organizations, intelligence services, police organizations, and in the militaries of many European, Latin American, and Arab countries. "Odessa" was also active in the international arms trade, mercenary operations, and a vast array of organized crime.

Over the following decades, connections to Skorzeny's SS structures frequently turned up as part of military coups, police-state "sanitizing operations" against opponents of sitting governments, rebel and low-intensity warfare operations, and spectacular assassinations, such as the "Permindex" organization's involvement in the killing of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Typical is their role both in the Algerian opposition movement FLN, as well as in the Organisation Armeé Secrète (OAS), which sought to topple and murder France's General de Gaulle.

With the outbreak of the Cold War, American and British intelligence services' interest in Skorzeny's SS structure grew even more intense. The mentality and war experience of these former SS personnel suited them perfectly for the "covert operations" which Allen Dulles had defined as a major focus of U.S. intelligence-service activity. Many thousands of former German Waffen-SS members, along with Eastern Europeans who had been part of the Waffen-SS and who had later settled in Western Europe, the United States, Canada, or Australia, were recruited for deployment in low-intensity warfare and destabilization operations in the Soviet sphere of influence.

The SS, which, up until 1942, believed that its members' "Nordic" racial characteristics qualified them to be members of the elite, became quite "internationalized" later on. Not only were there Western European and Scandinavian Waffen-SS units, but also Baltic, Ukrainian, Hungarian, Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian, Albanian, and Caucasian ones.

Former Waffen-SS members who had managed to survive inside Soviet-occupied countries following 1945 by going underground, and others who had emigrated into the West, suddenly became immensely valuable to Anglo-American intelligence services. They were to be utilized, in connection with "covert operations," to build up a secret military and political underground infrastructure capable of destabilizing communist regimes in Eastern and Southeastern Europe.



Emblem of "Gladio"
Italian branch of the NATO "stay-behind" paramilitaryorganizations.
The motto means
"Silently, I serve freedom"


During the first half of the 1950s, thanks to Kim Philby's defection to the Russian side, among other things, Communist intelligence services were able to break up most of these military and political underground cells. This, in turn, further increased the value of Eastern European emigrants' organizations which had been established in the West, and which harbored no small contingent of former Waffen-SS members.

On Allen Dulles's initiative, funds from SS assets and elsewhere were used to form the National Committee for a Free Europe (NCFE). Nominally a private organization, it was in fact an Anglo-American intelligence operation, assigned to back the activities of Eastern European emigrant groups.

No less important was the Islamic-Arab component of this SS structure. The Albanian Waffen-SS "Skanderbeg" division, and the Bosnian "Handschar" division, had been set up with the active participation of the Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin Mohamed Al Husseini.

After the war, Al Husseini, with the help of Anglo-American intelligence circles, was able to settle in Cairo, where he resumed his collaboration with Skorzeny, Swiss financier and Nazi activist François Genoud, and SS structures throughout the Arab world.

At the same time, certain factions within the Anglo-American intelligence establishment set up Skorzeny's network of former SS members in Western Europe itself, as deeply covert partisan groups which could be activated in the event of a Soviet invasion of Western Europe. The existence of this network, code-named "Gladio," was first revealed in 1991, in a public statement issued by Italian Prime Minister Guilio Andreotti."

I think Gladio is still around. Very around. More at link and lots about Skorzeny, too: [link to greyfalcon.us]



Gladio – Death Plan For Democracy


by Peter Chamberlin

[link to www.globalresearch.ca]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1424119




ODESSA is a fictional organization that appears in Frederic Forsyth’s 1972 novel The ODESSA File.

There has never been an organization called ODESSA. Nothing had ever been written about an "ODESSA" until Forsyth's novel appeared in 1972.


[link to en.metapedia.org]


* 1 Fictional Group
o 1.1 Bestseller
o 1.2 Use by Jewish Political Groups
o 1.3 Germans Who Escaped Allied Capture


* 2 Reality Behind the Fiction
o 2.1 ODESSA A Myth, Mutual Assistance Not
o 2.2 Postwar Chaos Facilitated Escapes
o 2.3 Escapes to South America
o 2.4 Argentina


..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1367250



I know Gladio is 100% real.
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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Poster above, I would not be so sure that Odessa was just a fiction:

"Review
"A remarkable if depressing account...The only bright spot is Goni himself, who has dared to expose these bleak truths." -- Sunday Telegraph

"Documents for the first time how Juan Peron clandestinely maneuvered to bring Nazi and other war criminals to Argentina." -- New York Times--March 9, 2003

"Goni has powerfully exposed the deceits and conniving, and pierced what he calls the 'wall of silence'." -- Sunday Times (London)

"Goni's analysis of the arrival of Nazis and collaborators in Argentina is impressive and convincing." -- TLS

"This astonishing book delineates in gripping detail what was long suspected--and also hints at how much remains to be told." -- Foreign Affairs--January/February 2003

"To work as Goñi has...revealing the real Argentina in his journalism, calls for outstanding courage, commitment, dedication and talent." -- Robert Cox, Charleston Post and Courier --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.
Product Description
Drawing on American and European intelligence documents, Uki Goni shows how from 1946 onward a Nazi escape operation was based at the presidential palace in Buenos Aires, harboring such war criminals as Adolf Eichmann and Josef Mengele. Goni uncovers an elaborate network that relied on the complicity of the Vatican, the Argentine Catholic Church, and the Swiss authorities. The discoveries made in this meticulously researched book reveal the entangled web of the Nazi regime and its sympathizers and has prompted Argentine officials to demand closed files on the Nazi era from their current government."

[link to www.amazon.com]



Postwar Arab links to the ODESSA network
Seán Mac Mathúna

"Gamal Abdal Nasser (1918-1970): The author Goodrick-Clarke says Nasser was "well disposed" towards the Nazis

Most people assumes that when Nazi's fled Europe after the war most of them went to Latin America, where the ruling elite's - such as the Peron's in Argentina - had always been sympathetic to Nazi ideology. Many did, but a sizable number of others find work in Egypt, notably under the regime of Gamal Abdal Nasser (1918-1970), an Egyptian army officer and political leader, who was the first president of the republic of Egypt (1956-70). In 1952 he led the coup that deposed King Farouk (another Nazi sympathizer), and later became premier (1954), and president (1956). Hitler had enjoyed quite a following among the nationalist youth of Egypt during the war, after Nassiri Nasser, the brother of Gamal had published an Arab edition of Mein Kampf in 1939, describing its author as the "strongest man of Europe".

The Nazi-Arab connection started by the Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, continued after the war according to Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke writing in Hitler's Priestess: Savitri Devi, the Hindu-Aryan myth, and Neo-Nazism (New York University Press, New York, USA, 1998). The Middle East had emerged as a haven for Nazis fleeing Europe in the 1950s, which had its roots in the anti-British and pro-Nazi attitudes of Vichy Syria, Rashid Ali in Iraq, King Farouk of Egypt and the Mufti of Jerusalem.

Thus, Egypt became like Argentina, a safe-haven for Nazi's fleeing justice and retribution from the Allies in Europe. Goodrick-Clarke states that King Farouk had been "impressed" by his garage mechanics recruited from Afrika Korps POWs, and:
"Wondered what he might achieve with officers from elite units of the Gestapo and SS who had fought so hard against the hated British" (p174).

Thus, a number of "nazi experts" who had escaped the Allied dragnet were hired by the King as military, financial and technical advisers. Although King Farouk was ousted in a military coup in January 1952, the Generals of the Egyptian armed forces were themselves "great admirers" of the Nazi's and "availed themselves of further large-scale imports of ex-Nazi expertise". They were to be helped by the former Luftwaffe ace Hans-Ulrich Rudel, the ex-SS commando Otto Skorzeny (1908-1975) and Eugen Dollman in recruiting "large numbers" of former Nazi fugitives from Argentina for key posts in the new republican regime in Egypt."

[link to www.fantompowa.net]
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oh, yeah Gladio is real for sure. There have been official investigations into it by governmental parliaments.

AND< there was a rat line, whether it was called Odessa . . . I guess we would have to sit down and read the books listed on this thread.
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Poster above, I would not be so sure that Odessa was just a fiction:

"Review
"A remarkable if depressing account...The only bright spot is Goni himself, who has dared to expose these bleak truths." -- Sunday Telegraph

"Documents for the first time how Juan Peron clandestinely maneuvered to bring Nazi and other war criminals to Argentina." -- New York Times--March 9, 2003

"Goni has powerfully exposed the deceits and conniving, and pierced what he calls the 'wall of silence'." -- Sunday Times (London)

"Goni's analysis of the arrival of Nazis and collaborators in Argentina is impressive and convincing." -- TLS

"This astonishing book delineates in gripping detail what was long suspected--and also hints at how much remains to be told." -- Foreign Affairs--January/February 2003

"To work as Goñi has...revealing the real Argentina in his journalism, calls for outstanding courage, commitment, dedication and talent." -- Robert Cox, Charleston Post and Courier --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.
Product Description
Drawing on American and European intelligence documents, Uki Goni shows how from 1946 onward a Nazi escape operation was based at the presidential palace in Buenos Aires, harboring such war criminals as Adolf Eichmann and Josef Mengele. Goni uncovers an elaborate network that relied on the complicity of the Vatican, the Argentine Catholic Church, and the Swiss authorities. The discoveries made in this meticulously researched book reveal the entangled web of the Nazi regime and its sympathizers and has prompted Argentine officials to demand closed files on the Nazi era from their current government."

[link to www.amazon.com]



Postwar Arab links to the ODESSA network
Seán Mac Mathúna

"Gamal Abdal Nasser (1918-1970): The author Goodrick-Clarke says Nasser was "well disposed" towards the Nazis

Most people assumes that when Nazi's fled Europe after the war most of them went to Latin America, where the ruling elite's - such as the Peron's in Argentina - had always been sympathetic to Nazi ideology. Many did, but a sizable number of others find work in Egypt, notably under the regime of Gamal Abdal Nasser (1918-1970), an Egyptian army officer and political leader, who was the first president of the republic of Egypt (1956-70). In 1952 he led the coup that deposed King Farouk (another Nazi sympathizer), and later became premier (1954), and president (1956). Hitler had enjoyed quite a following among the nationalist youth of Egypt during the war, after Nassiri Nasser, the brother of Gamal had published an Arab edition of Mein Kampf in 1939, describing its author as the "strongest man of Europe".

The Nazi-Arab connection started by the Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, continued after the war according to Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke writing in Hitler's Priestess: Savitri Devi, the Hindu-Aryan myth, and Neo-Nazism (New York University Press, New York, USA, 1998). The Middle East had emerged as a haven for Nazis fleeing Europe in the 1950s, which had its roots in the anti-British and pro-Nazi attitudes of Vichy Syria, Rashid Ali in Iraq, King Farouk of Egypt and the Mufti of Jerusalem.

Thus, Egypt became like Argentina, a safe-haven for Nazi's fleeing justice and retribution from the Allies in Europe. Goodrick-Clarke states that King Farouk had been "impressed" by his garage mechanics recruited from Afrika Korps POWs, and:
"Wondered what he might achieve with officers from elite units of the Gestapo and SS who had fought so hard against the hated British" (p174).

Thus, a number of "nazi experts" who had escaped the Allied dragnet were hired by the King as military, financial and technical advisers. Although King Farouk was ousted in a military coup in January 1952, the Generals of the Egyptian armed forces were themselves "great admirers" of the Nazi's and "availed themselves of further large-scale imports of ex-Nazi expertise". They were to be helped by the former Luftwaffe ace Hans-Ulrich Rudel, the ex-SS commando Otto Skorzeny (1908-1975) and Eugen Dollman in recruiting "large numbers" of former Nazi fugitives from Argentina for key posts in the new republican regime in Egypt."

[link to www.fantompowa.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1424119


Of course Odessa is real.... No doubt about it.

Look at the Egyptian flag:
[link to flagspot.net]

Nazi eagle:
[link to stormfront.org]


(Now look at the US presidential Eagle and the Roman Empire Eagle... The same Roman Empire that Hitler wanted to revive)

American Eagle:
[link to www.conspirations.tv]

Roman Empire Eagle:
[link to www.ancientsculpturegallery.com]


It just goes on and on and on..........
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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This is exactly why they get away with what they have been.

People dont care and they dont care to spend the time researching our past. People don't care, UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.

They would rather believe everything that our government tells them.

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No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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Operation Gladio - NATO's Secret Army

Operation Gladio


"Operating in all of NATO and even in some neutral countries or in Spain before its 1982 adhesion to NATO, Gladio was first coordinated by the Clandestine Committee of the Western Union (CCWU), founded in 1948. After the creation of NATO in 1949, the CCWU was integrated into the Clandestine Planning Committee (CPC), founded in 1951 and overseen by the SHAPE (Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe), transferred to Belgium after France’s official withdrawal from NATO in 1966 — which was not followed by the dissolution of the French stay-behind paramilitary movements. According to historian Daniele Ganser, one of the major researchers on the field, "Next to the CPC, a second secret army command center, labeled the Allied Clandestine Committee (ACC), was set up in 1957 on the orders of NATO's Supreme Allied Commander in Europe (SACEUR). This military structure provided for significant US leverage over the secret stay-behind networks in Western Europe as the SACEUR, throughout NATO's history, has traditionally been a US General who reports to the Pentagon in Washington and is based in NATO's Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE) in Mons, Belgium. The ACC's duties included elaborating on the directives of the network, developing its clandestine capability, and organizing bases in Britain and the United States. In wartime, it was to plan stay-behind operations in conjunction with SHAPE. According to former CIA director William Colby, it was 'a major program'."[1]


The role of the CIA in sponsoring Gladio and the extent of its activities during the Cold War era, and its relationship to attacks perpetrated in Italy during the years of lead and other similar clandestine operations is the subject of ongoing debate and investigation. Italy, Switzerland and Belgium have had parliamentary inquiries into the matter. . . .[2]

'The existence of these clandestine NATO armies remained a closely guarded secret throughout the Cold War until 1990, when the first branch of the international network was discovered in Italy. It was code-named Gladio, the Latin word for a short double-edged sword [gladius]. While the press said the NATO secret armies were 'the best-kept, and most damaging, political-military secret since World War II', the Italian government, amidst sharp public criticism, promised to close down the secret army. Italy insisted identical clandestine armies had also existed in all other countries of Western Europe. This allegation proved correct and subsequent research found that in Belgium, the secret NATO army was code-named SDRA8, in Denmark Absalon, in Germany TD BJD, in Greece LOK, in Luxemburg Stay-Behind, in the Netherlands I&O, in Norway ROC, in Portugal Aginter, in Switzerland P26, in Turkey Counter-Guerrilla, In Sweden AGAG (Aktions Gruppen Arla Gryning, and in Austria OWSGV. However, the code names of the secret armies in France, Finland and Spain remain unknown.

Upon learning of the discovery, the parliament of the European Union (EU) drafted a resolution sharply criticizing the fact (...) Yet only Italy, Belgium and Switzerland carried out parliamentary investigations, while the administration of President George H. W. Bush refused to comment, being in the midst of preparations for war against Saddam Hussein in the Persian Gulf, and fearing potential damages to the military alliance."[1]"

good sources, and lots of them here: [link to anomalies.net]



A big betrayal, no? Don't want to join NATO? Gladio will just create one false flag after another in your country until you beg to join NATO for their "protection."

What a racket.
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It just goes on and on...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

scroll down to near bottom for logo currently used......
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Got it; the shadows on the compass points make a swastika.
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Operation Gladio - NATO's Secret Army

Operation Gladio


"Operating in all of NATO and even in some neutral countries or in Spain before its 1982 adhesion to NATO, Gladio was first coordinated by the Clandestine Committee of the Western Union (CCWU), founded in 1948. After the creation of NATO in 1949, the CCWU was integrated into the Clandestine Planning Committee (CPC), founded in 1951 and overseen by the SHAPE (Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe), transferred to Belgium after France’s official withdrawal from NATO in 1966 — which was not followed by the dissolution of the French stay-behind paramilitary movements. According to historian Daniele Ganser, one of the major researchers on the field, "Next to the CPC, a second secret army command center, labeled the Allied Clandestine Committee (ACC), was set up in 1957 on the orders of NATO's Supreme Allied Commander in Europe (SACEUR). This military structure provided for significant US leverage over the secret stay-behind networks in Western Europe as the SACEUR, throughout NATO's history, has traditionally been a US General who reports to the Pentagon in Washington and is based in NATO's Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE) in Mons, Belgium. The ACC's duties included elaborating on the directives of the network, developing its clandestine capability, and organizing bases in Britain and the United States. In wartime, it was to plan stay-behind operations in conjunction with SHAPE. According to former CIA director William Colby, it was 'a major program'."[1]


The role of the CIA in sponsoring Gladio and the extent of its activities during the Cold War era, and its relationship to attacks perpetrated in Italy during the years of lead and other similar clandestine operations is the subject of ongoing debate and investigation. Italy, Switzerland and Belgium have had parliamentary inquiries into the matter. . . .[2]

'The existence of these clandestine NATO armies remained a closely guarded secret throughout the Cold War until 1990, when the first branch of the international network was discovered in Italy. It was code-named Gladio, the Latin word for a short double-edged sword [gladius]. While the press said the NATO secret armies were 'the best-kept, and most damaging, political-military secret since World War II', the Italian government, amidst sharp public criticism, promised to close down the secret army. Italy insisted identical clandestine armies had also existed in all other countries of Western Europe. This allegation proved correct and subsequent research found that in Belgium, the secret NATO army was code-named SDRA8, in Denmark Absalon, in Germany TD BJD, in Greece LOK, in Luxemburg Stay-Behind, in the Netherlands I&O, in Norway ROC, in Portugal Aginter, in Switzerland P26, in Turkey Counter-Guerrilla, In Sweden AGAG (Aktions Gruppen Arla Gryning, and in Austria OWSGV. However, the code names of the secret armies in France, Finland and Spain remain unknown.

Upon learning of the discovery, the parliament of the European Union (EU) drafted a resolution sharply criticizing the fact (...) Yet only Italy, Belgium and Switzerland carried out parliamentary investigations, while the administration of President George H. W. Bush refused to comment, being in the midst of preparations for war against Saddam Hussein in the Persian Gulf, and fearing potential damages to the military alliance."[1]"

good sources, and lots of them here: [link to anomalies.net]



A big betrayal, no? Don't want to join NATO? Gladio will just create one false flag after another in your country until you beg to join NATO for their "protection."

What a racket.
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Hey AC 119,


PLease have a quick look at my thread on how NATO funded Neo-Nazi's during the Yugoslav civil war... It's a short thread, with a couple pictures and a short 2 min video.
It'll take you no more than 5 mins.


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Poster above, I would not be so sure that Odessa was just a fiction:

"Review
"A remarkable if depressing account...The only bright spot is Goni himself, who has dared to expose these bleak truths." -- Sunday Telegraph

"Documents for the first time how Juan Peron clandestinely maneuvered to bring Nazi and other war criminals to Argentina." -- New York Times--March 9, 2003

"Goni has powerfully exposed the deceits and conniving, and pierced what he calls the 'wall of silence'." -- Sunday Times (London)

"Goni's analysis of the arrival of Nazis and collaborators in Argentina is impressive and convincing." -- TLS

"This astonishing book delineates in gripping detail what was long suspected--and also hints at how much remains to be told." -- Foreign Affairs--January/February 2003

"To work as Goñi has...revealing the real Argentina in his journalism, calls for outstanding courage, commitment, dedication and talent." -- Robert Cox, Charleston Post and Courier --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.
Product Description
Drawing on American and European intelligence documents, Uki Goni shows how from 1946 onward a Nazi escape operation was based at the presidential palace in Buenos Aires, harboring such war criminals as Adolf Eichmann and Josef Mengele. Goni uncovers an elaborate network that relied on the complicity of the Vatican, the Argentine Catholic Church, and the Swiss authorities. The discoveries made in this meticulously researched book reveal the entangled web of the Nazi regime and its sympathizers and has prompted Argentine officials to demand closed files on the Nazi era from their current government."

[link to www.amazon.com]



Postwar Arab links to the ODESSA network
Seán Mac Mathúna

"Gamal Abdal Nasser (1918-1970): The author Goodrick-Clarke says Nasser was "well disposed" towards the Nazis

Most people assumes that when Nazi's fled Europe after the war most of them went to Latin America, where the ruling elite's - such as the Peron's in Argentina - had always been sympathetic to Nazi ideology. Many did, but a sizable number of others find work in Egypt, notably under the regime of Gamal Abdal Nasser (1918-1970), an Egyptian army officer and political leader, who was the first president of the republic of Egypt (1956-70). In 1952 he led the coup that deposed King Farouk (another Nazi sympathizer), and later became premier (1954), and president (1956). Hitler had enjoyed quite a following among the nationalist youth of Egypt during the war, after Nassiri Nasser, the brother of Gamal had published an Arab edition of Mein Kampf in 1939, describing its author as the "strongest man of Europe".

The Nazi-Arab connection started by the Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, continued after the war according to Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke writing in Hitler's Priestess: Savitri Devi, the Hindu-Aryan myth, and Neo-Nazism (New York University Press, New York, USA, 1998). The Middle East had emerged as a haven for Nazis fleeing Europe in the 1950s, which had its roots in the anti-British and pro-Nazi attitudes of Vichy Syria, Rashid Ali in Iraq, King Farouk of Egypt and the Mufti of Jerusalem.

Thus, Egypt became like Argentina, a safe-haven for Nazi's fleeing justice and retribution from the Allies in Europe. Goodrick-Clarke states that King Farouk had been "impressed" by his garage mechanics recruited from Afrika Korps POWs, and:
"Wondered what he might achieve with officers from elite units of the Gestapo and SS who had fought so hard against the hated British" (p174).

Thus, a number of "nazi experts" who had escaped the Allied dragnet were hired by the King as military, financial and technical advisers. Although King Farouk was ousted in a military coup in January 1952, the Generals of the Egyptian armed forces were themselves "great admirers" of the Nazi's and "availed themselves of further large-scale imports of ex-Nazi expertise". They were to be helped by the former Luftwaffe ace Hans-Ulrich Rudel, the ex-SS commando Otto Skorzeny (1908-1975) and Eugen Dollman in recruiting "large numbers" of former Nazi fugitives from Argentina for key posts in the new republican regime in Egypt."

[link to www.fantompowa.net]
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Of course Odessa is real.... No doubt about it.

Look at the Egyptian flag:
[link to flagspot.net]

Nazi eagle:
[link to stormfront.org]


(Now look at the US presidential Eagle and the Roman Empire Eagle... The same Roman Empire that Hitler wanted to revive)

American Eagle:
[link to www.conspirations.tv]

Roman Empire Eagle:
[link to www.ancientsculpturegallery.com]


It just goes on and on and on..........
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while there are many books purporting an agenda how many were commissioned to create a belief the system wishes to
enforce?


excerpt:

Bestseller

The book became an international bestseller. A successful movie based on the book featured U.S. actor John Voight and several German and Austrian actors like Maximillian Schell .


Use by Jewish Political Groups

The book and the film both created the illusion in the popular mind that such a group existed.
This became an vehicle to keep pressure on the German Governement to increase the financial tribute to Israel and individual Jews. ODESSA would later be used by professional "Nazi Hunters" like the Jews Simon Wiesenthal or the Klarsfelds in France to refer to any group which aided the escape of SS members from Europe.



Germans Who Escaped Allied Capture

The purpose of such groups - only known as The Rat Line - was to establish and facilitate secret escape routes, out of Germany to South America and the Middle East for hunted members. With alleged ties to Argentina, Egypt, Brazil, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, and the Vatican, they operated out of Buenos Aires and helped Adolf Eichmann, Josef Mengele, Erich Priebke, Aribert Heim, Eduard Roschmann, and many other SS members to find refuge in Latin America and the Middle East.


Obersturmbannführer Otto Skorzeny and Sturmbannführer Alfred Naujocks were both believed to have been active in such organizations, but these suppositions have never been proven. Similarly, General Reinhard Gehlen’s entire intelligence organization, which was employed and protected by U.S. intelligence within a few months after the end of the war. In Argentina, Rodolfo Freude was allegedly a member of an Nazi aid network. It is alleged that Hans-Ulrich Rudel was active in Argentina. Alois Brunner is alleged to have escaped to Syria.

Persons claiming to represent ODESSA claimed responsibility in a note for the 9 July 1979 car bombing in France aimed at Jewish supremacist and left-wing activists Serge and Beate Klarsfeld.

( a psyop if there ever was one, ed.)
Reality Behind the Fiction

Other sources, such as many interviews by the Jewish organized and dominated ZDF the "official" "German" state TV station with former SS men, suggest that ODESSA never was the single world-wide secret organization that Wiesenthal described, but that there were several organizations, both overt and covert (including the CIA and several Latin American governments), that helped ex-SS men.
ODESSA A Myth, Mutual Assistance Not
Long before the ZDF TV network,


Jewish historian
Gitta Sereny wrote in her 1974 book Into That Darkness, wrote: “The prosecutors at the Ludwigsburg Central Authority for the Investigation into Nazi Crimes, who know precisely how the postwar lives of certain individuals now living in South America have been financed, have searched all their thousands of documents from beginning to end, but say they are totally unable to authenticate ‘Odessa.’
Not that this matters greatly: there certainly were various kinds of Nazi aid organizations after the war -- it would have been astonishing if there hadn’t been.”


Postwar Chaos Facilitated Escapes

Based on interviews with the former commander of the camp at Treblinka, Franz Stangl, ODESSA had never existed. Stangl denied any knowledge of a group called ODESSA. Recent biographies of Adolf Eichmann (who also escaped to South America) and Heinrich Himmler, the alleged founder of ODESSA, make no reference to such an organization.
Sereny attributed the fact that SS members could escape more to postwar chaos and the inability of the Roman Catholic Church, the Red Cross, and the American military to verify the claims of people who came to them for help than to the activities of an underground organization. She identifies a Vatican official, Bishop Aloïs Hudal, not former SS men, as the principal agent in helping Nazis leave Italy for South America.

Uki Goñi, in his 2002 book The Real Odessa: Smuggling the Nazis to Perón’s Argentina suggests that Sereny’s more complex, less conspiratorial, story is closer to the truth. The book prompted a US House of Representatives resolution in 2003, urging Argentina to open their hitherto secret documents concerning this matter.


Escapes to South America

Of particular importance in examining the postwar activities of high-ranking Nazis is Paul Manning’s book Martin Bormann: Nazi in Exile which details Martin Bormann’s rise to power through the Nazi Party and as Hitler’s Chief of Staff.
During the war, Manning himself was a correspondent for the fledgling CBS News along with Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite in London, and his reporting and subsequent researches present Bormann’s cunning and skill in the organization and planning for the flight of Nazi-controlled capital from Europe during the dimming years of the war (notwithstanding the possibility of Bormann’s death in Berlin on May 1, 1945).

According to Manning, “eventually, over 10,000 former German military made it to South America along escape routes set up by the Deutsche Hilfsverein…”. While Manning makes no mention of an "ODESSA", the continuing existence of the Bormann Organization is, according to him, a reality. None of this was ever convincingly proved.

Argentina

From December 2002, the Argentine government in Buenos Aires refused calls from the Wiesenthal Center for the release of 58 files dealing with the escape of Nazis to Argentina. In July 2003, two of the files were opened.

Also, Argentina’s government had, in 1938 (on the verge of World War II, and with Hitler’s politics regarding Jews already on the move), sanctioned an immigration law restricting access to any individual scorned or forsaken by his country’s government. This was implicitly targeted for Jews and other minorities fleeing Germany at the time. This law was discovered and denounced by Argentine writer Uki Goñi. This legislation, though already in disuse for many years, was finally repealed on 8 June 2005.


[link to en.metapedia.org]


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will do OP! will look at your thread
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maybe check out the Goni book I mentioned above.

The Real Odessa: How Peron Brought the Nazi War Criminals to Argentina [Paperback]

it is 410 pages and published in 2003 and is supposed to be the most definitive work on it

(any good Nazis is, of course, going to say, "There never was an Odessa.")

"Reviewed by Kenneth Maxwell, Foreign Affairs, January/February 2003

A chilling, detailed story of one of Argentina's most shameful secrets: the enthusiastic role of dictator Juan Peron in providing cover for major Nazi war criminals as the Third Reich collapsed, allowing them to lead prosperous and protected lives after the war. Few characters get off easily in this passionate account, which untangles the networks and escape mechanisms that made it all possible. Coming to Peron's assistance were numerous institutions and individuals: the Vatican, the Argentinean Catholic Church, the Argentinean government, and the Swiss authorities who cooperated through a secret office set up by Peron's agents in Bern. Operatives from Heinrich Himmler's secret service arrived in Madrid as early as 1944 to prepare an escape route; in 1946, this operation moved to Buenos Aires, establishing its headquarters in the presidential palace. Eventually, this operation's tentacles stretched from Scandinavia to Italy, aiding French and Belgian war criminals and bringing in gold that the Croatian state treasury had stolen from 600,000 Jewish and Serb victims of the Ustasha regime. Ingrained antisemitism, anticommunism, greed, and corruption all fortified these clandestine protection rackets. Today, the stain remains, as does the secrecy. This astonishing book delineates in gripping detail what was long suspected -- and also hints at how much remains to be told."

[link to www.amazon.com]
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Yea, NATO um NAZIS would be for all these wars for Jews(Israel).

Makes sense to me.
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Even during the breakup of Yugoslavia, the horrific civil war that NATO supported had Nazi regimes.


NATO openly supported Franjo Tudman who was the leader of the separation movement of Croatia and became president. He was a Nazi sympathizer. And openly supported the Croatian pro-Nazi collaborating Ustasa military during world war 2.

Also, the NATO backed Muslim Extremist Alija Izetbegovic who became president of Bosnia and Herzegovina after the break up was also not only a Nazi sympathizer but actually WAS a soldier in the Muslim SS unit Handzar during world war two.


THESE ARE THE TYPES OF PEOPLE YOUR FUCKEN NATO BRINGS INTO POWER.

If you don't believe me, look up their names....

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'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

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