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***MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT RE: SUN'S 11 YR SUNSPOT CYCLE - MAJOR DROP IN SOLAR ACTIVITY - POSSIBLE ICE AGE??**

 
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I agree with the poster on most points....

but it actually is quite simple....

they do know what is going to happen....

but do you actually think they are going to tell you....hell no!

there will be some major chitt going down next year....

and their best weapon is psy ops....

keep the masses guessing and confused....

that´s how they stay in control....

by the time people know wht´s going on....they will be in their bunkers.....
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Why do....

You always...

Talk on...

single lines without...

just typing in...

paragraphs like...

normal people?
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at least

lol

he didn't put

lol

in between each sentence

lol
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it´s my signature....

that way you won´t get confused with who i am...

just sayin....

but actually it reads easier.....

paragraphs are difficult to read....

sinlge lines express exact thoughts.....no doubting....as to what is being expressed...
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No, it does not read easier. It is more difficult to read and interpret. Too disjointed and jumpy.
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I agree.....

most of the ancient vivilizations worshipped the sun....

there is a clue right there....

the mayans were exact mathematicians....

they wnet through this before....

and they left evidence pointing to it´s cycle....
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Is that you Number 1 ?
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For all late comers and people who can't be arsed reading first page..





Major Drop in Solar Activity Predicted leading possibly to a new ice age.

A missing jet stream, fading spots, and slower activity near the poles say that our Sun is heading for a rest period even as it is acting up for the first time in years, according to scientists at the National Solar Observatory (NSO) and the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL).

As the current sunspot cycle, Cycle 24, begins to ramp up toward maximum, independent studies of the solar interior, visible surface, and the corona indicate that the next 11-year solar sunspot cycle, Cycle 25, will be greatly reduced or may not happen at all.

The results were announced at the annual meeting of the Solar Physics Division of the American Astronomical Society, which is being held this week at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces: [link to astronomy.nmsu.edu]

"This is highly unusual and unexpected," Dr. Frank Hill, associate director of the NSO's Solar Synoptic Network, said of the results. "But the fact that three completely different views of the Sun point in the same direction is a powerful indicator that the sunspot cycle may be going into hibernation."

[link to www.spaceref.com]



Alot of great information on these sites:

[link to news.yahoo.com]

[link to www.spaceref.com]
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THIS STATEMENT REALLY SHOWS THEY'RE ON THE BALL?!?!?!

"Cycle 24 started out late and slow and may not be strong enough to create a rush to the poles, indicating we'll see a very weak solar maximum in 2013, if at all," Altrock said. "If the rush to the poles fails to complete, this creates a tremendous dilemma for the theorists, as it would mean that Cycle 23's magnetic field will not completely disappear from the polar regions. … No one knows what the sun will do in that case."

WOW......I wonder if that 'NUT'{Astro} was invited to give his "I am right and know all that is about Space", Speech!?!?!....No seriously where is NUT!! I am sure he is devising his own theories, which will supersede anything these experts have to say!!!
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I have been following the jet stream for some time now. We certainly have a divided sytem. I'm in NY and usually the weather system is from the SouthWest. Now it comes mostly from the NorthWest and from the North East.




Major Drop in Solar Activity Predicted leading possibly to a new ice age.

A missing jet stream, fading spots, and slower activity near the poles say that our Sun is heading for a rest period even as it is acting up for the first time in years, according to scientists at the National Solar Observatory (NSO) and the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL).

[link to www.spaceref.com]

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I always thought you guys think NASA are all lying bags of shit. So why are you getting all hot now about something a bunch of alleged liars claim ?
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OP. I am a ham radio operator. I watch the sunspot activity every day. There is no scientist in the world that can predict what the sun will do in advance. We know it follows an approximately 11 year cycle and we are currently in cycle 24. The current cycle should peak in 2013 and we had an unusually protracted solar minimum. The solar min for cycle 23 was "unusually long" compared to other cycles. No one knows why. There is so much that the scientists don't know about the sun and stars in general.
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The problem is that this will give the Petroleum Industry and War makers all the justification they need for pursuing oil everywhere on the earth.

Right now, the Indian Ocean is up for grabs (it accounts for 40% of current offshore oil production (bet you did not know that)), Africa is up for grabs, most of the middle east is up for grabs.

China is fighting a proxy war against the US in Libya.

Vietnam (as US proxy) and China may trigger world war three in the China Sea and Indian Ocean.

The United states is trying to push China out of Sudan, the Congo, and elsewhere.

China is creating an oil zone with its "string of pearls" in the China Sea, and it may build a canal, the size of Panama to increase its exploitation.

If one were to think there is any non-war plan, it might be that China has agreed to split the Sudan and Libya (much to the Libyans cluelessness) with the US.

Otherwise, it appears an announcement that the earth may cool is a shot in the arm to world war.

By the way, Japan went to war in WW2 because the US was blocking its access to oil.


Here is the Big Picture:


Russia wants the arctic ocean all to itself.

Russia lost Iraq oil contracts to the US.

China is losing Libya to the US.

Japan will lose itself to itself (meaning reduced oil consumption).

Vietnam and the Philippines will play proxy for the US in the China sea and Indian Ocean.

China will fight to keep its oil platforms throughout Africa, including Libya.

North Korea and China want control of the China Sea.

China wants the Indian Ocean, China Sea and Africa.

The United States wants control of all oil everywhere except in Russia proper, China proper and India proper.

India may have to cut ties with China if it wants the US to provide security for its energy needs. I think this may be the real reason for Rockefeller's visit to India.


If the earth is predicted to cool, governments will be easily influenced by oil companies to move quickly to destroy competition -- as the US was prior to Iraq.
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excellent analysis.....will it be WWIII?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284635

I hope not, but....

Maybe I should refer to a statement made recently by Fareed Zakaria.

"Fareed Zakaria: World wars are actually really useful. The small wars don't help at all. And then you've got to destroy the other competitors. See, that was the great thing about World War II: You flatten all the other competitors; you're left on top."


The Power brokers set the stage for WW3 with the Global Financial Crisis. They created the credit shortage. They created the derivative scam. They set the stage for a desperado situation.

Now, they are destabilizing the middle east. The same precursors that caused the global powers to enter WW2, are now put in place to cause WW3.

1. Global financial crisis. Caused by world planners.

2. Insurmountable debt of World Powers. Caused by global planners.

3. Global Power Countries in major conflict over world's oil resources.

4. People like Fareed, the Illuminati, and others who believe in "creative destruction."

5. The sole global military super-power afraid it will lose its superiority if it does not lay other countries to ruin first.

6. And now, a reason to believe Petroleum may actually be needed in the future to warm the earth during several decades of minimal sunspot activity.


The only alternative to war is, as Fareed put it, more -- not less -- interdependency between China and the United States. I think Fareed is wrong to use the word interdependency, because really, we need cooperation.

The problem is that the war makers believe we need fewer, not more countries, so division of resources, ie. splitting Libya, is not their real aim.

Fareed states small wars do not help.

Only world wars help he argues.

So the question to ask is what chance is there that the small wars are going to end in the foreseeable future?


That's right. None -- unless world powers agree on resource sharing, and the smaller powers accept their role as controlled suppliers without a meaningful cut in the action, or, world war.

I think the Power Brokers are heading us toward more financial upheaval, more resource wars, and ultimately a world war.

Only a real changing of the guards at the highest levels could avoid the neorealists, NWO and others from pushing us toward this.

But what then of the dreaded nuclear winter.

I think TPTB know something we do not know about nuke defense. Regardless, I think their people are in control of the quantity that will be set off. For instance, did you know we put a private Israeli company in charge of protecting our nuclear stockpile?

In other words, there are less nukes than you might think that will actually be launched or detonated. (Not to be religious: But remember that bible quote about do not harm the oil or wine?) Well, the first place we protected back when we invaded Iraq was the oil ministry and the oil fields.

"Gentlemens'" agreements at the highest levels will likely see to that. If you think Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt and Hitler were not all tied in with TPTB, you'll need some catching up to do.

Finally, the fact that NASA is telling its people to have family bug out bags, plans where to meet (in or outside a city) if they are split up during an event, and so forth, is telling enough that something big is coming. Homeland Security, Sesame Street, NASA, Etc. all getting ready for some boogie man.

As an after thought, assuming war does not break out before the next Presidential election, Romney and Bauchman will likely be running mates, and they are nuts, revelation believers, and they are tools. Obama will not win, unless there is a world war, because he will lose the peace crowd for all his "small wars."

(On the other hand, the next war may be something unexpected. Control of weather, earthquakes, scalar weapons, and microwave weapons mean a war could be fought without a nuke launched. These would be chalked up to the public as acts of God....Still the same Large war effect would take place. Some world powers would be flattened, and the winners would be in a position to reap the rewards. A digusting thought.)
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I am bumping this one time to share my agreement with posters who call bs on NASA and the rest for predicting future decades of sunspot activity.

It is irresponsible, and it plays into the hands of the Globalists and the oil industry.

bump
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I have been following the jet stream for some time now. We certainly have a divided sytem. I'm in NY and usually the weather system is from the SouthWest. Now it comes mostly from the NorthWest and from the North East.

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They are talking about the jet-stream on the sun you douchebag.

"The studies looked at a missing jet stream in the solar interior, fading sunspots on the sun's visible surface, and changes in the corona and near the poles. [Photos: Sunspots on Earth's Star]"

[link to www.space.com]
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I always thought you guys think NASA are all lying bags of shit. So why are you getting all hot now about something a bunch of alleged liars claim ?
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Remember, even liars tell the truth sometimes..
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sorry mates WTF is that?
its new i think...
[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
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I am bumping this one time to share my agreement with posters who call bs on NASA and the rest for predicting future decades of sunspot activity.

It is irresponsible, and it plays into the hands of the Globalists and the oil industry.

bump
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Indeed ... a major psyop. The nuclear power industry also has a lot of interest in news like this. Now they can say we need to stay with nuclear power because it is the only way keep us warm in the future.
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Yes, the elite always forget to mention the suffering and death thing. The coffins are hidden, the suffering on the battlefield is censored, the journalists are embedded, most hospitals are off limit to journalists, the whistleblowers (like Manning) are jailed.
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Why do they need to mention it? Last I looked, it's the peasants who CAUSE the suffering and COMMIT the murders. Without the dumbass little people marching to the elite's tune, there are no wars.
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I always thought you guys think NASA are all lying bags of shit. So why are you getting all hot now about something a bunch of alleged liars claim ?
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Remember, even liars tell the truth sometimes..
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Obviously only when it fits the paranoid delusions of GLP posters.

Too funny ... just like Lieder (not you, talking about many here in general) ... when NASA said something that supported her PX delusion she said that's true ... when NASA said something that went against her claims she called NASA liars.
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I have been following the jet stream for some time now. We certainly have a divided sytem. I'm in NY and usually the weather system is from the SouthWest. Now it comes mostly from the NorthWest and from the North East.


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Even the sun is different, rising from the NORTHEAST to the NORTHWEST......
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That just proves how people are weak.

They let to be controled. When elite says WAR - sheeple applaud - YES, let's go!
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Proving again and again that the peasants get what they deserve: poverty, suffering and death, while the elite enjoy lives of luxury.
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I always thought you guys think NASA are all lying bags of shit. So why are you getting all hot now about something a bunch of alleged liars claim ?
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Remember, even liars tell the truth sometimes..
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The last time I checked, the American Astronomical Society was NOT NASA.
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sorry mates WTF is that?
its new i think...
[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
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Its the CME from yesterday , I was asking on another thread why the Mag is being hit and it seems we had a few flares and THAT CME!!!Thanks mate.
The most perfect place to be is... With your own thought,s on a silent mountain with the sun on your back, a breeze on your face and peace in your soul......
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Why do they need to mention it? Last I looked, it's the peasants who CAUSE the suffering and COMMIT the murders. Without the dumbass little people marching to the elite's tune, there are no wars.
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SO TRUE !!! And this is the point of it all. Without us dumbasses (and I do not exclude myself, I am too part of the system and so is everyone else who does not live completely self sustained in the wilderness) the elite would be nothing, there would be no elite. We feed them because we are to afraid to change the system. But it has always been this way and probably will continue.
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The last time I checked, the American Astronomical Society was NOT NASA.
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NASA was the wrong choice of words. I should have said scientists in general. Folks here usually think they are all liars.
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Climate during the Maunder Minimum certainly appeared to be cooler, based on the info at the link below. Of course, if (huge IF IF IF) the planet is warming due to increased greenhouse gases then an absence of solar cycles for many decades (which was implied by today's announcement) would re-produce something like the Maunder Minimum and perhaps counteract any warming that may (huge MAY MAY MAY) be taking place. This could be somewhat disconcerting, since if there really is background warming taking place and it is masked for a century or so, then we'd really be cooking rapidly when the solar cycles resume.

[link to eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to earthobservatory.nasa.gov]
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Maybe I should refer to a statement made recently by Fareed Zakaria.

"Fareed Zakaria: World wars are actually really useful. The small wars don't help at all. And then you've got to destroy the other competitors. See, that was the great thing about World War II: You flatten all the other competitors; you're left on top."...
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... and get the brand new country that never existed before, paid by the millions of dead.

Strange this Indian-American CNN journalist didn't finish that sentence.
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Yes, the elite always forget to mention the suffering and death thing. The coffins are hidden, the suffering on the battlefield is censored, the journalists are embedded, most hospitals are off limit to journalists, the whistleblowers (like Manning) are jailed.
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That just proves how people are weak.

They let to be controled. When elite says WAR - sheeple applaud - YES, let's go!
 Quoting: Whoami


it´s not that simple.....

it´s called entrainment ( a spychological term)...

they entrain since chidlhood to be a patriotic citizen and to not question your leaders....

unfortunately it works...especially in america....
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Yes, the elite always forget to mention the suffering and death thing. The coffins are hidden, the suffering on the battlefield is censored, the journalists are embedded, most hospitals are off limit to journalists, the whistleblowers (like Manning) are jailed.
 Quoting: humuhumunukuapuaa


Why do they need to mention it? Last I looked, it's the peasants who CAUSE the suffering and COMMIT the murders. Without the dumbass little people marching to the elite's tune, there are no wars.
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I thought Henry Kissinger posted here.

Henry ;), when you lie about the reasons for war, get the media to lie, call all wars humanitarian and/or self-defense, you are causing the wars. You ask the public to work, not be lazy, and then when they rely upon so-called sound sources for information, you stuff them with propaganda horseshit.
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it´s not that simple.....

it´s called entrainment ( a spychological term)...

they entrain since chidlhood to be a patriotic citizen and to not question your leaders....

unfortunately it works...especially in america....
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You need to work on that spelling processor of yours Number 1.
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THIS STATEMENT REALLY SHOWS THEY'RE ON THE BALL?!?!?!

"Cycle 24 started out late and slow and may not be strong enough to create a rush to the poles, indicating we'll see a very weak solar maximum in 2013, if at all," Altrock said. "If the rush to the poles fails to complete, this creates a tremendous dilemma for the theorists, as it would mean that Cycle 23's magnetic field will not completely disappear from the polar regions. … No one knows what the sun will do in that case."

WOW......I wonder if that 'NUT'{Astro} was invited to give his "I am right and know all that is about Space", Speech!?!?!....No seriously where is NUT!! I am sure he is devising his own theories, which will supersede anything these experts have to say!!!
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nut didn´t cut it as a shill so they sent him back to be reprogrammed....
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sorry mates WTF is that?
its new i think...
[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]
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Thats the cme from this morning in which they said wasnt earth directed. But it had a halo around it so they now have altered there original info. Which they do quite often on these.
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it´s not that simple.....

it´s called entrainment ( a spychological term)...

they entrain since chidlhood to be a patriotic citizen and to not question your leaders....

unfortunately it works...especially in america....
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You need to work on that spelling processor of yours Number 1.
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I type too fast....while i´m eating....

that´s my problem...thanks anyways...
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And here’s the money shot:

"If we are right, this could be the last solar maximum we'll see for a few decades," Hill said. "That would affect everything from space exploration to Earth's climate."

[link to www.space.com]
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So what their saying is that after this cycle ends in a couple years, the sun may cool down and in turn the earth is gonna cool down?
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so earlier they choose version:
"don't know"
and now gave "they already know"





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