THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN!!Dramatic ground shots of Athens riots, mass scuffles in Greece | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1431760 Spain 06/17/2011 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | savage capitalism and free market must end for sure. But anarchy and communism won't make our society better than it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1206580Also, democracy will never work because people have different points of view Exactly what the people in Spain are protesting about. The whole system needs to change! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1432573 Greece 06/17/2011 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "rioters" that you are seeing in these videos are mostly "anarchists" (aka paramilitary groups that were created and funded in the PASOK era of 1981). If you see, they don't do anything else than provoking the riot police. In one of the videos you can see them clearly blending in the big mass of the peaceful protesters (which amongst them are older age people like the lady in one of them), thus dragging with them the riot police with their brutality and their smoke grenades and chems. So, the target was the peaceful protesters and the tools to make them leave the place were the riot police with the help of the "anarchists". Simple as that and often repeated scenario. They didn't succeeded though this time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1431760 Spain 06/17/2011 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | savage capitalism and free market must end for sure. But anarchy and communism won't make our society better than it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1206580Also, democracy will never work because people have different points of view Exactly what the people in Spain are protesting about. The whole system needs to change! I should add that no-one knows what it should change to but they do know the system known as democracy cannot continue in it's present form. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1268022 Switzerland 06/17/2011 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | savage capitalism and free market must end for sure. But anarchy and communism won't make our society better than it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1206580Also, democracy will never work because people have different points of view Exactly what the people in Spain are protesting about. The whole system needs to change! 20 years ago my generations revolution was saying fuck off to authority by dancing all night necking ecstasy - it spread all over the world - in spain and soon elsewhere, we see a new youth movement which come in 20 yr cycles, this time it will be a lot more useful than ours |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1432373 Greece 06/17/2011 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am Belgian and have been living here on the portugese island of Madeira for 11 years. Quoting: katseyes 1432464With our bailout we are in the same trouble as Greece. People are so hard working here. Many hold down 2 jobs to make ends meet. They never earned a lot of money, with one of the lowest wages in europe. What will happen if the austerity measurements kick in. Many families live in one house, mom, dad, children, grandchildren. The majority manage barely now. In Belgium we hear of the new poor. Belgium was always very properous in the past. People are on breaking point. OP a lot of people in Belgium used to live with unemployment benefits having worked for only 6 months in their entire life I have seen a lot of them in Liege Now you ll pay the bill |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1431110 United States 06/17/2011 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | savage capitalism and free market must end for sure. But anarchy and communism won't make our society better than it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1206580Also, democracy will never work because people have different points of view Exactly what the people in Spain are protesting about. The whole system needs to change! The worlds political systems are f'ed up. But the root of the problem is the financial system. It is un sustainable and will fail. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1431760 Spain 06/17/2011 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "rioters" that you are seeing in these videos are mostly "anarchists" (aka paramilitary groups that were created and funded in the PASOK era of 1981). If you see, they don't do anything else than provoking the riot police. In one of the videos you can see them clearly blending in the big mass of the peaceful protesters (which amongst them are older age people like the lady in one of them), thus dragging with them the riot police with their brutality and their smoke grenades and chems. So, the target was the peaceful protesters and the tools to make them leave the place were the riot police with the help of the "anarchists". Simple as that and often repeated scenario. They didn't succeeded though this time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432573Same thing happening here. There was a video and photo, posted yesterday, showing it all very clearly. Unfortunately the video has been taken down which says it all really. Here's the thread from yesterday Thread: BREAK !!!!!, EVIDENCE THAT CAUSED THE SPANISH POLICE CHARGES AGAINST PROTESTERS. POLICE IDENTIFIED IN VIDEO. Here's the photo [link to puntsdevista.files.wordpress.com] It's a shame the video was taken down because you can clearly see the police among the crowd and then they're escorted/protected by the riot police as they walk back to the police vans. |
mesna User ID: 1432598 Greece 06/17/2011 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and they keep voting for the same polticians? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366664how is change going to happen that way? Politicians were good and loved when they provided benefits and jobs. I remember these days vividly That same square full of sheeple Apo tin presbeia grafeis bromokoli; Oxi apo to spiti mou ston Xolargo Plirono to enoikio kanonika Kai to fpa episis Den pairno epidomata , den me prostatevei to sintagma , Kai eimai 10 mines anergos Thanks for asking Over there At Holargos where your house is, aren't there any book stores for you to read and learn what the hell is going on in the world and Greece in particular? Besides, the internet provides all kinds of information for anyone who is willing to learn. Your attitude and way of thinking drives me to the conclusion that you are looking at the tree and missing the forest!!!!............. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1432285 Sweden 06/17/2011 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like the return of the brave Greek Riot Dog; just follow him and he will lead you guys to victory! :-) Humanity has a problem; we were never allowed to really test new forms of society and economic systems except those that was forced down on us by the elite (capitalism+debt system and fake communism) By the way, the only good system (national-socialism, nazism) was also discredited although it was the most advanced and successful system of all. Now we don't have ANYTHING to implement; we want change but what can we change for? Don't EVER ask the elite for change; they will give you a chip in your brain. The first step will be creating small independent communities; well armed and away from parasitic government rule...also, humanity needs new philosophers who dare to dream forth fair economic and society systems. All the Greeks should announce general strike now if they want to start a change! |
katseyes (OP) User ID: 1432464 Portugal 06/17/2011 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am Belgian and have been living here on the portugese island of Madeira for 11 years. Quoting: katseyes 1432464With our bailout we are in the same trouble as Greece. People are so hard working here. Many hold down 2 jobs to make ends meet. They never earned a lot of money, with one of the lowest wages in europe. What will happen if the austerity measurements kick in. Many families live in one house, mom, dad, children, grandchildren. The majority manage barely now. In Belgium we hear of the new poor. Belgium was always very properous in the past. People are on breaking point. OP a lot of people in Belgium used to live with unemployment benefits having worked for only 6 months in their entire life I have seen a lot of them in Liege Now you ll pay the bill Iam from the flemish side of Belgium and these people are working people. Been living abroad for 17 years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1432373 Greece 06/17/2011 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "rioters" that you are seeing in these videos are mostly "anarchists" (aka paramilitary groups that were created and funded in the PASOK era of 1981). If you see, they don't do anything else than provoking the riot police. In one of the videos you can see them clearly blending in the big mass of the peaceful protesters (which amongst them are older age people like the lady in one of them), thus dragging with them the riot police with their brutality and their smoke grenades and chems. So, the target was the peaceful protesters and the tools to make them leave the place were the riot police with the help of the "anarchists". Simple as that and often repeated scenario. They didn't succeeded though this time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432573Same thing happening here. There was a video and photo, posted yesterday, showing it all very clearly. Unfortunately the video has been taken down which says it all really. Here's the thread from yesterday Thread: BREAK !!!!!, EVIDENCE THAT CAUSED THE SPANISH POLICE CHARGES AGAINST PROTESTERS. POLICE IDENTIFIED IN VIDEO. Here's the photo [link to puntsdevista.files.wordpress.com] It's a shame the video was taken down because you can clearly see the police among the crowd and then they're escorted/protected by the riot police as they walk back to the police vans. Exactly , Greece and Spain have been two fine examples of agent provocateurs sponsored by the police |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1431760 Spain 06/17/2011 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | savage capitalism and free market must end for sure. But anarchy and communism won't make our society better than it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1206580Also, democracy will never work because people have different points of view Exactly what the people in Spain are protesting about. The whole system needs to change! 20 years ago my generations revolution was saying fuck off to authority by dancing all night necking ecstasy - it spread all over the world - in spain and soon elsewhere, we see a new youth movement which come in 20 yr cycles, this time it will be a lot more useful than ours Lots of Spanish remember getting rid of the last dictator. Before Franco wasn't openly spoken of but now many say they didn't get rid of one dictator just to allow the corporations and financial institutions to dictate how the government should be operated. There is no left or right to vote for anymore. No more governing the country and people. Now they just do what the corporations and financial institutions want them to do. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1432285 Sweden 06/17/2011 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "rioters" that you are seeing in these videos are mostly "anarchists" (aka paramilitary groups that were created and funded in the PASOK era of 1981). If you see, they don't do anything else than provoking the riot police. In one of the videos you can see them clearly blending in the big mass of the peaceful protesters (which amongst them are older age people like the lady in one of them), thus dragging with them the riot police with their brutality and their smoke grenades and chems. So, the target was the peaceful protesters and the tools to make them leave the place were the riot police with the help of the "anarchists". Simple as that and often repeated scenario. They didn't succeeded though this time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432573Yeah, but peaceful protests won't help either...those infiltrators are indeed a pain in the rear though. I would like to see a good clean riot with the Dog in front and honest people behind him, not agents and government scum. lol |
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Instance User ID: 1417466 Australia 06/17/2011 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too bad they can't conjure themselves to pick up guns and use them. Instead they would rather run around like a disorganized pack of monkeys as if they were in a sports riot. None of these people probably even have 2 way radios for communication in the event cell phones are deliberately disabled. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1412897n·stance/ˈinstəns/Noun 1. An example or single occurrence of something: "an instance of corruption" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1432373 Greece 06/17/2011 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432373Politicians were good and loved when they provided benefits and jobs. I remember these days vividly That same square full of sheeple Apo tin presbeia grafeis bromokoli; Oxi apo to spiti mou ston Xolargo Plirono to enoikio kanonika Kai to fpa episis Den pairno epidomata , den me prostatevei to sintagma , Kai eimai 10 mines anergos Thanks for asking Over there At Holargos where your house is, aren't there any book stores for you to read and learn what the hell is going on in the world and Greece in particular? Besides, the internet provides all kinds of information for anyone who is willing to learn. Your attitude and way of thinking drives me to the conclusion that you are looking at the tree and missing the forest!!!!............. I trust my own eyes , thanks for asking All my neighbors work hard for the public administration earning 60 - 80k per year , I am the one who's unemployed not them You might call me biased but I am no fool Good news is that I am leaving this shithole after summer |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1068718 Netherlands 06/17/2011 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "rioters" that you are seeing in these videos are mostly "anarchists" (aka paramilitary groups that were created and funded in the PASOK era of 1981). If you see, they don't do anything else than provoking the riot police. In one of the videos you can see them clearly blending in the big mass of the peaceful protesters (which amongst them are older age people like the lady in one of them), thus dragging with them the riot police with their brutality and their smoke grenades and chems. So, the target was the peaceful protesters and the tools to make them leave the place were the riot police with the help of the "anarchists". Simple as that and often repeated scenario. They didn't succeeded though this time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432573Same thing happening here. There was a video and photo, posted yesterday, showing it all very clearly. Unfortunately the video has been taken down which says it all really. Here's the thread from yesterday Thread: BREAK !!!!!, EVIDENCE THAT CAUSED THE SPANISH POLICE CHARGES AGAINST PROTESTERS. POLICE IDENTIFIED IN VIDEO. Here's the photo [link to puntsdevista.files.wordpress.com] It's a shame the video was taken down because you can clearly see the police among the crowd and then they're escorted/protected by the riot police as they walk back to the police vans. Exactly , Greece and Spain have been two fine examples of agent provocateurs sponsored by the police Anarchists and other groups that do demonstrations and sometimes riots, like with the G8 meetings and such, are not set up and sponsored by secret service or whatever. Those groups and their culture are not being sponsored so they all work for tptb and fuck up peaceful protest. Those people mostly have real grievanses with they way the world is run. There is no free beer, a clubhouse and nice free black boots for them. During protest, some police just dress up like them and start doing things like burn police cars or move a group into a special direction. In essence start indeed a confrontation with the riot police as to disperse and beat down the rest. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1432373 Greece 06/17/2011 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am Belgian and have been living here on the portugese island of Madeira for 11 years. Quoting: katseyes 1432464With our bailout we are in the same trouble as Greece. People are so hard working here. Many hold down 2 jobs to make ends meet. They never earned a lot of money, with one of the lowest wages in europe. What will happen if the austerity measurements kick in. Many families live in one house, mom, dad, children, grandchildren. The majority manage barely now. In Belgium we hear of the new poor. Belgium was always very properous in the past. People are on breaking point. OP a lot of people in Belgium used to live with unemployment benefits having worked for only 6 months in their entire life I have seen a lot of them in Liege Now you ll pay the bill Iam from the flemish side of Belgium and these people are working people. Been living abroad for 17 years. I wont argue that , i have lived there for only two years |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1431760 Spain 06/17/2011 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Useless protesting because the useless eater entitled lifestyle based on fossil fuels is going bye bye. This is great entertainment for anyone with a vague clue about unlimited growth being an impossible dream. Course the greekytards cognitive disconnect is delicious irony. Hey greeks your fossil fuel world ride is over , time to adapt or die ). Good luck fucko's you will need it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432323Erm, that's what the Greek people are trying to tell the Greek government. |
Elenin User ID: 1342569 United States 06/17/2011 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too bad they can't conjure themselves to pick up guns and use them. Instead they would rather run around like a disorganized pack of monkeys as if they were in a sports riot. None of these people probably even have 2 way radios for communication in the event cell phones are deliberately disabled. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1412897Sad , if they had only guns like the americans .... We Americans know if the guns come out we loose to the nwo Tell that to an American that has just lost his job, then house then family. You think voting still works? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309466 United States 06/17/2011 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too bad they can't conjure themselves to pick up guns and use them. Instead they would rather run around like a disorganized pack of monkeys as if they were in a sports riot. None of these people probably even have 2 way radios for communication in the event cell phones are deliberately disabled. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1412897Sad , if they had only guns like the americans .... Agreed |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1068718 Netherlands 06/17/2011 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Useless protesting because the useless eater entitled lifestyle based on fossil fuels is going bye bye. This is great entertainment for anyone with a vague clue about unlimited growth being an impossible dream. Course the greekytards cognitive disconnect is delicious irony. Hey greeks your fossil fuel world ride is over , time to adapt or die ). Good luck fucko's you will need it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432323Very nice coming from the nation that has kept the world addicted to oil for so long. You seem to suffer from a lack of imagination to not see that when oil ends we will start to use levels of power unimaginable in this fossil fuel time. When we start tapping renewables and learn fussion and maybe more exotic forms of energy, the world will change dramatically. The current US oil era will look like an old and dirty western. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1068718 Netherlands 06/17/2011 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too bad they can't conjure themselves to pick up guns and use them. Instead they would rather run around like a disorganized pack of monkeys as if they were in a sports riot. None of these people probably even have 2 way radios for communication in the event cell phones are deliberately disabled. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1412897Sad , if they had only guns like the americans .... Agreed Then most of them would be dead by now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1432373 Greece 06/17/2011 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Useless protesting because the useless eater entitled lifestyle based on fossil fuels is going bye bye. This is great entertainment for anyone with a vague clue about unlimited growth being an impossible dream. Course the greekytards cognitive disconnect is delicious irony. Hey greeks your fossil fuel world ride is over , time to adapt or die ). Good luck fucko's you will need it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432323Erm, that's what the Greek people are trying to tell the Greek government. Greece CONSUMES fossil fuels Greece does NOT PRODUCE fossil fuels |
Kanenas User ID: 1430913 Greece 06/17/2011 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "rioters" that you are seeing in these videos are mostly "anarchists" (aka paramilitary groups that were created and funded in the PASOK era of 1981). If you see, they don't do anything else than provoking the riot police. In one of the videos you can see them clearly blending in the big mass of the peaceful protesters (which amongst them are older age people like the lady in one of them), thus dragging with them the riot police with their brutality and their smoke grenades and chems. So, the target was the peaceful protesters and the tools to make them leave the place were the riot police with the help of the "anarchists". Simple as that and often repeated scenario. They didn't succeeded though this time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432573Exactly. There are a lot happening these days in Greece from the plain people and believe me nothing has to do with riots. The peaceful movement is so strong that has scared all these POLITICIANS in their offices and send out the 'elite paramilitary' group to mingle and create chaos, eventually showing a bad image. This time, they did not succeeded, their bluff is exposed big time. As soon as these with the masks that tried to dissolve the coherent peaceful movement gone, all people came back, peacefully but strongly, right there, right in front of the parliament. THAT IS WHAT THE MEDIA DID NOT COVER !! And for all those shills that looks-like they come from here, well, you know, its so easy nowadays to impersonate that you come from a country via an anonymizer or proxy, so its better to ignore them. To everyone in this thread. Beware of the lies that fly all around us. Do not put the blame on any country, no citizens are guilty of this or any default. Do not simply repeat what is shoved in your minds by the media. POLITICIANS are the real instruments of today's evil powers. These are to blame yet they know very well how to hide and get cover by their own laws that they themselves have voted. POLITICIANS in order to be in politics need to be accepted not from us the people, the citizens, but from those evils in real power that control your lives. Then POLITICIANS put the people into debt with their actions, so they put people into modern slavery loosing everything that for decades we gain with blood sweat and tears. I said it before, here it is again To tell lies is acceptable (its not for us the real people, but it is for the POLITICIANS) TO BELIEVE IN LIES IS PATHETIC :. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1431760 Spain 06/17/2011 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Useless protesting because the useless eater entitled lifestyle based on fossil fuels is going bye bye. This is great entertainment for anyone with a vague clue about unlimited growth being an impossible dream. Course the greekytards cognitive disconnect is delicious irony. Hey greeks your fossil fuel world ride is over , time to adapt or die ). Good luck fucko's you will need it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432323Erm, that's what the Greek people are trying to tell the Greek government. Greece CONSUMES fossil fuels Greece does NOT PRODUCE fossil fuels Sorry, I thought he/she was talking about consumption? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1068718 Netherlands 06/17/2011 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is this about entitlements and welfare for some people? Ofcourse that is more expensive than no welfare and entitlements. But it seems doable if it wasn't for US bankers selling worthless investments and call them triple A rated. Billions of dollars given to these investment banks getting no profit in return at all, just destroying billion of Greek government money. If Greece had collapsed on it's own, without the fraud of US bankers, then you may talk about your ideology of having a state that requires everybody to work hard and long for scraps. |