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.9999 Silver

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Thanks P-earth
Family has strong anti weapons nuke values..been at this since before it was needed...

they want to build a tritium based "Test reactor" in Vancouver/Burnaby downtown here..all approved and everything.. no public input/hush/hush.....
and two reactors at the tar sand in alberta...
most people think the Fuk-U stuff is under control....idiots...

stop letting the shills bait you... its part of their training... to weaken your position.

they have nothing to say... and can present no real counter data...
My meter matches a lot of your points.. not all but most of the big ones...
A-boys data is questionable when i look at his readings compared to mine....

the plant is not in cold shutdown nor a controlled shutdown either.
there is no guess work when they get there.. its an exact position of control.

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Thanks P-earth
Family has strong anti weapons nuke values..been at this since before it was needed...

they want to build a tritium based "Test reactor" in Vancouver/Burnaby downtown here..all approved and everything.. no public input/hush/hush.....
and two reactors at the tar sand in alberta...
most people think the Fuk-U stuff is under control....idiots...

stop letting the shills bait you... its part of their training... to weaken your position.

they have nothing to say... and can present no real counter data...
My meter matches a lot of your points.. not all but most of the big ones...
A-boys data is questionable when i look at his readings compared to mine....

the plant is not in cold shutdown nor a controlled shutdown either.
there is no guess work when they get there.. its an exact position of control.

Silver
 Quoting: .9999 Silver


bumpit!

No.4's Spent Fuel Pond was Hot..no doubt about it.

Hey Silver,have you yet seen any video of Unit 4 exploding(as it obviously did)?

I cannot find any video of it what-so-ever,this would be damning evidence indeed as it would prove that the MOX Pond was being used to produce Plutonium(the image of an exploded Housing Unit 4 should be enough evidence alone).
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Visitation of Mr. Nakatsuka, Senior Vice Minister of Cabinet Office

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Fodor Nuclear Plant, Near Qom, Iran

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[link to cryptome.org]
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Building 4 explosion.

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Another YouTube video, a Hindi language news broadcast from Tuesday, March 15th, shows what it labels as the Unit 4 explosion, specifically at the 1 minute mark, the 2 minute 30 second mark, and the 3 minute mark, highlighting the Unit 4 explosion with a red circle on the grainy video.

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Concerning the vids of unit 4 explosion; they have mostly been removed for various claims of copyright.

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here's my two bit worth again...

Current geiger reading in downtown Vancouver canada

Average based on readings since feb 2012


current average based on 1237 hrs of data is
.151 uSv/hr or 15 counts per minute +-1 2 counts based on 1 reading every 60 seconds since feb 2012

highs
.285 uSv/hr or 32 counts per minute +- 2 counts

lows
.060 uSv/hr or 5 counts per minute
still higher than june 2011 which averaged .090 to .127 uSv/hr

but lower than mid dec to early jan 2011/2012
with highs of .728 uSv/hr and an average of .350 to .450 uSv/hr.

two road trips to alberta say that they got 2-3 times what we had dropped on us...

times the hourly rate by 25 hr and then 365 days to work out your yearly exposure

meter has been sent and returned for calibration conformation just to make sure its reasonably accurate..and hooked to laptop. metering since June pre february data was lost due to hard drive crash and burn mechanical meltdown..friends gieger went of in March and has not been silent since...

The whole response to the reactor fuckup has been pathetic at best... lies, and more lies etc.

...all just to hide a secrete hidden weapons program going on through and via Fuk-U.
Canada supplied the uranium the japanese got the power they needed and the us got the weapons uranium and plutonium back...
The japanese being clever have found a cheap way of returning our canadian uranium to us...

Fuk-U was at the heart of japans atom bomb research in the 30's and 40's... Fuk-U was designed to produce weapons material from day 1.

Extended exposure to low levels of exposure will cause cancer.. period. It took till 1986 to kill everyone my grandmother knew in Hiroshima from cancer. 100% deaths from cancer. Shes had it twice.. she's 97.

Fuk-U will kill over an extended period of time..sorry guys no gore covered bodies for instant doom..just a slow rotting of everyone you know inside...

the bullet could take months or it could take years... but it is there, for your wife, kids, relatives, friends, and those you hate... it does not care... low level repeated exposure never gives your body a break...

its been over a year now and we should start seeing issue's in the next while...maybe a funny cold, a rash perhaps, or problems with birth data...

remember low level exposure takes time...

... however if #4 falls over... I mean photos of "stage scaffolding" as structural support for how many tons above... PLEASE... don't even bother to claim containment with that kind of mickey mouse photo op to back you up.

Silver

to all those paying attention thanks for the work!!

taking Lugals, eating andiluvial glacial rock dust (dirt), coral calciums, magnesium citrate, and NAC ( N-Aceytl-L-cysteine) for chelation therapy.
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Good post Silver! I hope MD's out there are alert for this too, because you might not be able to hope for unbiased government research.

Would you mind measuring the levels in air filters and report on those levels too? You could measure your car air filter for instance.

This gives an idea of particle size, since those sized particles trapped in air filters might be especially harmful.

Here is a story about actinide chelation.
[link to phys.org]

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A-boys data is questionable when i look at his readings compared to mine....



Silver
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Compared to you i can check my Geiger with a Pancake
and when 3 Counter show the same Result than it is Okay,
i think your SOEKS is maybe wrong!

When you watch all the other Data from Tokyo, Kawasaki
and Yokohama you can see all are similar
and we get not paid by Tepco or the J-Government for this!

@ SC.
sorry, this Pics show nothing!
G.Y.!B.E.
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here's my two bit worth again...

Extended exposure to low levels of exposure will cause cancer.. period. It took till 1986 to kill everyone my grandmother knew in Hiroshima from cancer. 100% deaths from cancer. Shes had it twice.. she's 97.

Fuk-U will kill over an extended period of time..sorry guys no gore covered bodies for instant doom..just a slow rotting of everyone you know inside...

the bullet could take months or it could take years... but it is there, for your wife, kids, relatives, friends, and those you hate... it does not care... low level repeated exposure never gives your body a break...

its been over a year now and we should start seeing issue's in the next while...maybe a funny cold, a rash perhaps, or problems with birth data...

remember low level exposure takes time...

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Don't worry, all is well. In the next few decades as more people die off and have no relatives to leave the wealth to, TPTB, living in carefully filtered environments or in other countries, will come in and acquire that wealth for little or no investment.

Naw... they wouldn't do something like that would they?

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another.

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Another YouTube video, a Hindi language news broadcast from Tuesday, March 15th, shows what it labels as the Unit 4 explosion, specifically at the 1 minute mark, the 2 minute 30 second mark, and the 3 minute mark, highlighting the Unit 4 explosion with a red circle on the grainy video.


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The Hindi Video I have seen before and what we see there is a secondary explosive release(strangely it appears to come from the 'empty' Reactor),thank you for trying to pull them up though Bug : )

The 3 exploded 4 theory does'nt hold water when the video is shown.

Surely if this theory was correct the explosion of 4 occurred at the same time as the Unit 3 Detonation and we would see it expload alongside the Mushroom Cloud,I do not see this : ?

The Housing of Unit 4 is alot more devastated than Unit 1 which actually contained a loaded Reactor: [link to cryptome.org]

The last image tells alot.

Peace to you Bug.

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 04/24/2012 05:41 PM
The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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A-boys data is questionable when i look at his readings compared to mine....



Silver
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Compared to you i can check my Geiger with a Pancake
and when 3 Counter show the same Result than it is Okay,
i think your SOEKS is maybe wrong!

When you watch all the other Data from Tokyo, Kawasaki
and Yokohama you can see all are similar
and we get not paid by Tepco or the J-Government for this!

@ SC.
sorry, this Pics show nothing!
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Rubbish,and you know it.

I take it you see intact Buildings and Piping!?
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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A-boys data is questionable when i look at his readings compared to mine....



Silver
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Compared to you i can check my Geiger with a Pancake
and when 3 Counter show the same Result than it is Okay,
i think your SOEKS is maybe wrong!

When you watch all the other Data from Tokyo, Kawasaki
and Yokohama you can see all are similar
and we get not paid by Tepco or the J-Government for this!

@ SC.
sorry, this Pics show nothing!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


Please,measure at Ground Level.

20.58 mSv/h Ground Level at Fukushima Daisan School:

[link to www.youtube.com]
The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Another YouTube video, a Hindi language news broadcast from Tuesday, March 15th, shows what it labels as the Unit 4 explosion, specifically at the 1 minute mark, the 2 minute 30 second mark, and the 3 minute mark, highlighting the Unit 4 explosion with a red circle on the grainy video.


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The Hindi Video I have seen before and what we see there is a secondary explosive release(strangely it appears to come from the 'empty' Reactor),thank you for trying to pull them up though Bug : )

The 3 exploded 4 theory does'nt hold water when the video is shown.

Surely if this theory was correct the explosion of 4 occurred at the same time as the Unit 3 Detonation and we would see it expload alongside the Mushroom Cloud,I do not see this : ?

The Housing of Unit 4 is alot more devastated than Unit 1 which actually contained a loaded Reactor: [link to cryptome.org]

The last image tells alot.

Peace to you Bug.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I've never bought into the bs about the hydrogen getting into unit 4 from unit 3. There are many things about that unit, and what was going on there, which are a mystery. Not much mention has been made concerning it for as long as I've been looking, which is since mid-march 2011.

Something stinks in denmark... no offense, denmark.

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A-boys data is questionable when i look at his readings compared to mine....



Silver
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Compared to you i can check my Geiger with a Pancake
and when 3 Counter show the same Result than it is Okay,
i think your SOEKS is maybe wrong!

When you watch all the other Data from Tokyo, Kawasaki
and Yokohama you can see all are similar
and we get not paid by Tepco or the J-Government for this!

@ SC.
sorry, this Pics show nothing!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


You see the problem with going with your information only leads one to think that there were not 3 Total meltdowns at the Daiichi site.

Consider the failed Endoscope that could handle over 1000 Sv/h and the other Robots that could not function due to extreme radiation.

What is your position?
Do you believe that there was not 3 Meltdowns?

I try and follow your logic..it leads to strange places.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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A-boys data is questionable when i look at his readings compared to mine....



Silver
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Compared to you i can check my Geiger with a Pancake
and when 3 Counter show the same Result than it is Okay,
i think your SOEKS is maybe wrong!

When you watch all the other Data from Tokyo, Kawasaki
and Yokohama you can see all are similar
and we get not paid by Tepco or the J-Government for this!

@ SC.
sorry, this Pics show nothing!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


....actually I wondered about that too... so had meter sent off for verification...came back certified correct...

also don't slag other peoples language skills... when yours too have problems...what the fuck were you trying to say?

its the spike counts that i'm interested in.. those hot floating bits...of 15- to 20 count increase's in one minute'

my meter has been stationary under cover in the same spot 3' off the ground other than road trips since june

..oh and as an aside
... I believe reactor #4's fuel transfer pools had a load of mox fuel that was supposed to be loaded into #4 which is why the lid was off
... the old fuel in the reactor had not yet been removed...mox fuel in the fuel holding transfer pool is the problem... it was not yet loaded into the reactor core
...there's your missing hydrogen source and why the reactor core does not show the blast damage, the fuel was outside in the transfer pool... and #4 did blow up...
big time. the steel and concrete tell a story... i do some work with explosives.. this was not blowback from #3.

and for those who think they can get at the fuel to remove it... with which extraction precision device capable of less than .025" variation and no vibration over how many feet for a damaged fuel rod... are we talking about..the one ones the rector floors? and in the pools????
... and into which holding ponds will they move this 8000 + ton pile of very hot shit fucked up fuel rods.... while they contain it... cause there's nothing left there that will do it.

those guys who engineered this mess at the top levels should be frog walked into those buildings butt naked and made to fix this controlled demolition site... until its really safe or their dead which ever comes first...I don't care...

Silver

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socialist,militarist,religi​ous nutbars...family nuked,gassed,or robbed by all of them. history never lies but but men who write it do.
take the man away you have the truth...
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A-boys data is questionable when i look at his readings compared to mine....



Silver
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Compared to you i can check my Geiger with a Pancake
and when 3 Counter show the same Result than it is Okay,
i think your SOEKS is maybe wrong!

When you watch all the other Data from Tokyo, Kawasaki
and Yokohama you can see all are similar
and we get not paid by Tepco or the J-Government for this!

@ SC.
sorry, this Pics show nothing!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


You see the problem with going with your information only leads one to think that there were not 3 Total meltdowns at the Daiichi site.

Consider the failed Endoscope that could handle over 1000 Sv/h and the other Robots that could not function due to extreme radiation.

What is your position?
Do you believe that there was not 3 Meltdowns?


I try and follow your logic..it leads to strange places.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I never denied a Melt-Down!

As i wrote already a few Times: we even escaped from Japan
because of the Disaster but returned because of 2 Reasons,
the first one was an Accident and the more important one
was that we saw that the Containments stand the Corium
because of the re-established Cooling Circle!
G.Y.!B.E.
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A-boys data is questionable when i look at his readings compared to mine....



Silver
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Compared to you i can check my Geiger with a Pancake
and when 3 Counter show the same Result than it is Okay,
i think your SOEKS is maybe wrong!

When you watch all the other Data from Tokyo, Kawasaki
and Yokohama you can see all are similar
and we get not paid by Tepco or the J-Government for this!

@ SC.
sorry, this Pics show nothing!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


You see the problem with going with your information only leads one to think that there were not 3 Total meltdowns at the Daiichi site.

Consider the failed Endoscope that could handle over 1000 Sv/h and the other Robots that could not function due to extreme radiation.

What is your position?
Do you believe that there was not 3 Meltdowns?


I try and follow your logic..it leads to strange places.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I never denied a Melt-Down!

As i wrote already a few Times: we even escaped from Japan
because of the Disaster but returned because of 2 Reasons,
the first one was an Accident and the more important one
was that we saw that the Containments stand the Corium
because of the re-established Cooling Circle!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


Really..cooling Corium(Nuclear Meltdown Slag)!?

Talk about banging your head against a brickwall.

What are they doing..cooling the surrounding Concrete?
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
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0.22usv/hr in michigan today
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also my pc was down with a virus sorry
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Reading too much about Fukushima probably got you infected with Stuxnet... lol...
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No worries it was double that last august chuckle
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Diablo Canyon nearly idle after jellyfish-like creatures cause clog

Read more here: [link to www.sanluisobispo.com]

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Here we go with the jellyfish, again.

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and so? what the f you doing here?.. rude man....
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did you free your wifes head from the pig troph yet?

or you using the free time to put a torch up your ass?
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^^^I find the above comment disgusting and serves no purpose other than to distract. You do not have to agree with what is posted here but it is not necessary for child like games.
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Nuke plant concrete woes worse than previously believed
[link to www.seacoastonline.com]

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The cause of concrete degradation at Seabrook Station is more pervasive than originally reported, has already brought some of the structures below licensing standards and could further delay the nuclear plant's effort to extend its operating license to 2050.



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Well, here ya go. When we first posted about this awhile back, it was 'cosmetic'. Now, it is a little more than that.

Do these feckers ever tell the truth?

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Yamashita banned recording findings suggestive of thyroid nodule
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

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[snip]

Dr. Okayama often finds thyroid tumor.

Ultrasonic echo can be used by a doctor and engineer, but both of them are supposed to record findings suggestive of thyroid tumor or cyst even if it was originally to see carotid.

However, Yamashita Shunichi requested doctors in the symposium not to record the findings because it causes unnecessary concern of patients.



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As we speculated. The children's thyroid lumps were not biopsied because they are hiding the information from the public and the continuing attempt to censor the data would preclude legit tests which would force them to falsify more tests and results.

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Atom-Toy .... WHose 'plaything' are you NOW ?

Did mamma wake you up, or did someone tip over your rock ?
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Possible melt-out in Fukushima Daini
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

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A retired employee of an electric company said, “If water is in pedestal, it means pressure vessel had excessive pressure. Control rod or pipes are severely damaged. The bottom of the reactor is broken through. Like Fukushima Dai ichi, it is rational to think there was a hydrogen explosion.”

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Yet more evidence of a possible meltdown at Daiini.

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Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 165)
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Environmental impact caused by the nuclear power accident at Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station
As of April 19
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TEPCO released the result of their study for radioactive contamination on fishery products within a 20-kilometer radius of the plant. Levels of radioactive Cesium detected in fishes are below newly introduced standard
for food products.


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OF COURSE they are... BWAHAHA.lmao

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Environmental impact caused by the nuclear power accident at Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station
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TEPCO released the result of their study for radioactive contamination on fishery products within a 20-kilometer radius of the plant. Levels of radioactive Cesium detected in fishes are below newly introduced standard
for food products.


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OF COURSE they are... BWAHAHA.lmao

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I think this it is still amazing
that the Fishes so close to the Plant
are not more contaminated,
less than 100Bq. a Kg. is something
where we can see an end of the line,
spec. when you know how much Uranium
is inside of our Sea cool2

@ Daini,
i think/ hope this is just a hunt for Publicity,
we should give this Guy not toooooooo much credit
for something unproven!
G.Y.!B.E.
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Environmental impact caused by the nuclear power accident at Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station
As of April 19
[link to www.jaif.or.jp]

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TEPCO released the result of their study for radioactive contamination on fishery products within a 20-kilometer radius of the plant. Levels of radioactive Cesium detected in fishes are below newly introduced standard
for food products.


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OF COURSE they are... BWAHAHA.lmao

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


I think this it is still amazing
that the Fishes so close to the Plant
are not more contaminated,

Maybe those fish are new to the area.. they do move around, you know.



less than 100Bq. a Kg. is something
where we can see an end of the line,
spec. when you know how much Uranium
is inside of our Sea cool2

@ Daini,
i think/ hope this is just a hunt for Publicity,
we should give this Guy not toooooooo much credit
for something unproven!


He's not the only one saying this.

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04/25/2012 10:21 AM
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Re: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links
Highly radioactive areas may not receive clean-up
The Japanese government says NOT carrying out decontamination work may be an option in areas near the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant where radiation readings are likely to stay high for at least a decade.

The government is drawing up plans to clean up radioactive substances in areas near the nuclear plant so that residents who have been forced to evacuate can return.

It said for the first time on Sunday that atmospheric radiation levels may remain higher than 20 millisieverts per year in some areas even 10 years from now, a level the government considers difficult for people to go home.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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