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*** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links

 
the average Atom-Boy

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Honey Bunny Buggy-Chan,
as far as i remember i exclude Groundfishes
like that mentioned Flatfish!

So, please don't mix something up, mmmmkay?
G.Y.!B.E.
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Honey Bunny Buggy-Chan,
as far as i remember i exclude Groundfishes
like that mentioned Flatfish!

So, please don't mix something up, mmmmkay?
 Quoting: the average Atom-Boy


How about a re-translate because I don't have a clue what you just said.

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Fukushima timeline video:
[link to fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com.au]

at least they're now attempting to mainstream some truth....

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Honey Bunny Buggy-Chan,
as far as i remember i exclude Groundfishes
like that mentioned Flatfish!

So, please don't mix something up, mmmmkay?
 Quoting: the average Atom-Boy


wtf are you drivelling about now?

and quoting southpark is offensive concerning you....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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Environmental impact caused by the nuclear power accident at Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station
As of April 19
[link to www.jaif.or.jp]

[snip]

TEPCO released the result of their study for radioactive contamination on fishery products within a 20-kilometer radius of the plant. Levels of radioactive Cesium detected in fishes are below newly introduced standard
for food products.


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OF COURSE they are... BWAHAHA.lmao

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


I think this it is still amazing
that the Fishes so close to the Plant
are not more contaminated,
less than 100Bq. a Kg.
is something
where we can see an end of the line,
spec. when you know how much Uranium
is inside of our Sea cool2

@ Daini,
i think/ hope this is just a hunt for Publicity,
we should give this Guy not toooooooo much credit
for something unproven!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


Fishermen in disaster-stricken areas say life now far tougher than last year
[link to mainichi.jp]

[snip]

"I wonder how long this (voluntary ban) will continue," he said. "We may eventually have to stop fishing for other kinds of fish as well ..."

In step with the government's new food safety standards that lowered the maximum allowable dose of radiation per kilogram of food from 500 becquerels to 100 becquerels, the Miyagi Prefectural Government in March increased the number of marine food samples subject to testing from last year's 20 per week to 100 per week.

As a result, radioactive doses far exceeding the new limit were detected in four kinds of local fish, including sea bass, with the highest detected radiation dose of 360 becquerels per kilogram, and flounder, which had a maximum detected radiation dose of 400 becquerels per kilogram. The results led the Miyagi Prefectural Government and prefectural fishery cooperatives to institute a self-imposed ban on the fishing of all four kinds of fish this season at specified fishing grounds.

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Makes you wonder what they'd have found last year with maximized testing, instead of 20 samples per week.

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Tepco-boy said the fish weren't contaminated.

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Honey Bunny Buggy-Chan,
as far as i remember i exclude Groundfishes
like that mentioned Flatfish!

So, please don't mix something up, mmmmkay?
 Quoting: the average Atom-Boy


I didn't mix it up. You are just confused in your lies...
Better take better notes if you are going to call me out.
You should know by now I'll pwn you, once again.

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i think that one is into bukuki....
;)
couldn't see for shit...
BWAHAHAHH
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Residents briefed on contaminated soil storage
The government has asked people from near the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant to accept the setting up of an intermediate storage facility to keep contaminated soil removed from the area around the plant.

Environment Minister Goshi Hosono met, on Saturday, more than 200 residents of Okuma Town that hosts the damaged nuclear plant. Since the nuclear disaster, all of the towns residents, numbering over 10-thousand, have been evacuated.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]

Video at link
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Group seeks referendum to decide future of Hamaoka nuclear complex
A civic group in Shizuoka Prefecture kicked off a signature collection campaign Sunday to hold a referendum to determine whether the suspended Hamaoka nuclear power station in the prefecture should resume operation, members of the group said.

If the group manages to collect around 62,000 signatures, equivalent to a fiftieth of the eligible voters in the prefecture, during the campaign through July 11, it will directly request Gov. Heita Kawakatsu to adopt an ordinance to hold the referendum.
[link to english.kyodonews.jp]
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Neighboring cities call for permanent closure of Hamaoka atomic plant
Assemblies of local governments around Omaezaki city in Shizuoka Prefecture have issued resolutions and opinions in the past year calling for ''permanent shutdown'' or ''decommissioning of reactors'' at Chubu Electric Power Co.'s Hamaoka Nuclear Power Station.

The station in Omaezaki came to a halt on May 14 last year after the government requested a shutdown of two operating reactors for concern over quake preparedness following the Fukushima nuclear crisis triggered by the magnitude-9 quake two months earlier.
[link to english.kyodonews.jp]
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Thanks wb and cp org tacoma and ac hf bump thanks to all for the news
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We are a rag tag group but it works for us!
 Quoting: Southern OR


.... tattered and worn ... but, undaunted.

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battered , bruised, but relentless ;)
 Quoting: citizenperth



fucking gay!
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We are a rag tag group but it works for us!
 Quoting: Southern OR


.... tattered and worn ... but, undaunted.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


battered , bruised, but relentless ;)
 Quoting: citizenperth



fucking gay!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15984995


ok.. good for you... your sexual orientation is your own decision.... do wear a condom tho.. aids and all.... particularly in asia... just saying...... i have some gay friends in aus that want a holiday... do you advertise?

Last Edited by CitizenPerth on 05/13/2012 09:31 AM
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.... tattered and worn ... but, undaunted.

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battered , bruised, but relentless ;)
 Quoting: citizenperth



fucking gay!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15984995


ok.. good for you... your sexual orientation is your own decision.... do wear a condom tho.. aids and all.... particularly in asia... just saying...... i have some gay friends in aus that want a holiday... do you advertise?
 Quoting: citizenperth


your a serious weirdo.
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battered , bruised, but relentless ;)
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fucking gay!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15984995


ok.. good for you... your sexual orientation is your own decision.... do wear a condom tho.. aids and all.... particularly in asia... just saying...... i have some gay friends in aus that want a holiday... do you advertise?
 Quoting: citizenperth


your a serious weirdo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15984995


yes you are.. try "kids help line"
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Thanks wb and cp org tacoma and ac hf bump thanks to all for the news
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Thanks for your contributions, as well. This ain't going away any time soon..

I sincerely hope they can fast-track the situation at SFP 4. I believe the pool is relatively stable at the moment but all that could change in a heartbeat. The sooner they can rebuild the fueling crane superstructure and crane, the better. I still don't know what the plan is after that. They'll have to build new support walls and ceiling first.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


"fast-track"? 1rof1

the only way you will ever see any of this catastrophe "fast-tracked" is only when:

the UN forcibly takes over all of Fukushima Prefecture with troops
(force of arms), just like they would in Libya or any other
"totally out of control country".

the UN Security Council needs to make the resolution to get this catastrophe under control,
and they can move Chinese troops in to do the Military Police work,
while the rest of the world marshals all of the
best nuclear and civil engineers and scientists on the planet
to tackle this monster, and get the job done.
and, of course, when the project is completed Japan
will be given the bill for all of the costs, and be
given 100 years to pay it off.
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fucking gay!
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ok.. good for you... your sexual orientation is your own decision.... do wear a condom tho.. aids and all.... particularly in asia... just saying...... i have some gay friends in aus that want a holiday... do you advertise?
 Quoting: citizenperth


your a serious weirdo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15984995


Grin...yes you are.. try "kids help line...fucking jap fuck.
 Quoting: citizenperth


are you really in your 40s?
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Thanks wb and cp org tacoma and ac hf bump thanks to all for the news
 Quoting: ar-15 nut


Thanks for your contributions, as well. This ain't going away any time soon..

I sincerely hope they can fast-track the situation at SFP 4. I believe the pool is relatively stable at the moment but all that could change in a heartbeat. The sooner they can rebuild the fueling crane superstructure and crane, the better. I still don't know what the plan is after that. They'll have to build new support walls and ceiling first.

~
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


"fast-track"? 1rof1

the only way you will ever see any of this catastrophe "fast-tracked" is only when:

the UN forcibly takes over all of Fukushima Prefecture with troops
(force of arms), just like they would in Libya or any other
"totally out of control country".

the UN Security Council needs to make the resolution to get this catastrophe under control,
and they can move Chinese troops in to do the Military Police work,
while the rest of the world marshals all of the
best nuclear and civil engineers and scientists on the planet
to tackle this monster, and get the job done.
and, of course, when the project is completed Japan
will be given the bill for all of the costs, and be
given 100 years to pay it off.
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i said this on another thread.. it is about time the dis-info train got disrailed......
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i said this on another thread.. it is about time the dis-info train got disrailed......
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fine. then i want everybody to agree that the only
hope we have of fixing this catastrophe is for
the UN to take control of the situation, or yer
all nothing but a bunch of asshats.
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i said this on another thread.. it is about time the dis-info train got disrailed......
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fine. then i want everybody to agree that the only
hope we have of fixing this catastrophe is for
the UN to take control of the situation, or yer
all nothing but a bunch of asshats.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


You made your point. If you want to make demands, start your own thread. Don't come on mine and spam a bunch of your shit.
I've seen you make the same post multiple times on multiple threads. Being a pain in the ass isn't going to create any goodwill here.

I understand your passion. I've been posting on fuku since it happened. I've felt the same things and expressed the same indignation, anger and frustration with the handling of this disaster.

This thread is an informational tool for those who want to keep abreast of the situation. If you'd like to contribute with news and commentary, feel free.

Just quit being an ass about it.

Thanks.

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i said this on another thread.. it is about time the dis-info train got disrailed......
 Quoting: citizenperth


fine. then i want everybody to agree that the only
hope we have of fixing this catastrophe is for
the UN to take control of the situation, or yer
all nothing but a bunch of asshats.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


You made your point. If you want to make demands, start your own thread. Don't come on mine and spam a bunch of your shit.
I've seen you make the same post multiple times on multiple threads. Being a pain in the ass isn't going to create any goodwill here.


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well, quit all yer mealy-mouthing and say something that's
worth a damn.
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i said this on another thread.. it is about time the dis-info train got disrailed......
 Quoting: citizenperth


fine. then i want everybody to agree that the only
hope we have of fixing this catastrophe is for
the UN to take control of the situation, or yer
all nothing but a bunch of asshats.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


You made your point. If you want to make demands, start your own thread. Don't come on mine and spam a bunch of your shit.
I've seen you make the same post multiple times on multiple threads. Being a pain in the ass isn't going to create any goodwill here.

I understand your passion. I've been posting on fuku since it happened. I've felt the same things and expressed the same indignation, anger and frustration with the handling of this disaster.

This thread is an informational tool for those who want to keep abreast of the situation. If you'd like to contribute with news and commentary, feel free.

Just quit being an ass about it.

Thanks.

~
waterbug
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aint-no-god.. jump on board.. easy...
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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battered , bruised, but relentless ;)
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fucking gay!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15984995


ok.. good for you... your sexual orientation is your own decision.... do wear a condom tho.. aids and all.... particularly in asia... just saying...... i have some gay friends in aus that want a holiday... do you advertise?
 Quoting: citizenperth


your a serious weirdo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15984995


Hey, I'm sorry I don't participate more, but I just want to thank all of you, including waterbug, citizen perth, .9999silver, AR15, ac's from Norway, Switzerland, and there are a half a dozen more excuse me for omitting. I even owe AtomBoy-tepco-shill for his brief moments of clarity, and many moments of over the top audacity.

I love you all, of course, but get real, sexual innuendos are tactics of the shills.

I think the following is important to share.

I found it posted on another thread, Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 212) and when dealing with such sensitive and world affecting subjects and obvious shills, it is important to reflect on the possible intent of each participant in this critical light.

I already understand most of this through personal observation of blog dynamics, combined with the knowledge of substantial government funded shilling.

It is well composed, this text, although I intuit that each section below is no more than title to a whole chapter of more specific techniques and examples, and there may be a few larger areas missing.

COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum

There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a 'uncontrolled forum.'

Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.

Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'

A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at Conspiracy Theory, UFO, and Alternative Topics) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'

Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.

Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.

CONCLUSION

Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precedence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.

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fucking gay!
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ok.. good for you... your sexual orientation is your own decision.... do wear a condom tho.. aids and all.... particularly in asia... just saying...... i have some gay friends in aus that want a holiday... do you advertise?
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your a serious weirdo.
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Hey, I'm sorry I don't participate more, but I just want to thank all of you, including waterbug, citizen perth, .9999silver, AR15, ac's from Norway, Switzerland, and there are a half a dozen more excuse me for omitting. I even owe AtomBoy-tepco-shill for his brief moments of clarity, and many moments of over the top audacity.

I love you all, of course, but get real, sexual innuendos are tactics of the shills.

I think the following is important to share.

I found it posted on another thread, Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 212) and when dealing with such sensitive and world affecting subjects and obvious shills, it is important to reflect on the possible intent of each participant in this critical light.

I already understand most of this through personal observation of blog dynamics, combined with the knowledge of substantial government funded shilling.

It is well composed, this text, although I intuit that each section below is no more than title to a whole chapter of more specific techniques and examples, and there may be a few larger areas missing.

COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum

There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a 'uncontrolled forum.'

Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.

Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'

A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at Conspiracy Theory, UFO, and Alternative Topics) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'

Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.

Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.

CONCLUSION

Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precedence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.

From Mel Fabregas at his forum [link to www.manticore.com]
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Thanks, E. That should be the title page.whistle

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i said this on another thread.. it is about time the dis-info train got disrailed......
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fine. then i want everybody to agree that the only
hope we have of fixing this catastrophe is for
the UN to take control of the situation, or yer
all nothing but a bunch of asshats.
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You made your point. If you want to make demands, start your own thread. Don't come on mine and spam a bunch of your shit.
I've seen you make the same post multiple times on multiple threads. Being a pain in the ass isn't going to create any goodwill here.


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well, quit all yer mealy-mouthing and say something that's
worth a damn.
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I've already said my piece.... many times since march 11, 2011. I've been posting all along. I didn't just figure this shit out yesterday.

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Tepco stopped releasing plant parameters in English
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This info from tepco is like a chicken they've got by the neck...squeezing the life out of it.

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Decontamination propaganda

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3,100Bq/Kg from field mouse in Kawauchi mura Fukushima
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fine. then i want everybody to agree that the only
hope we have of fixing this catastrophe is for
the UN to take control of the situation, or yer
all nothing but a bunch of asshats.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


You made your point. If you want to make demands, start your own thread. Don't come on mine and spam a bunch of your shit.
I've seen you make the same post multiple times on multiple threads. Being a pain in the ass isn't going to create any goodwill here.


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well, quit all yer mealy-mouthing and say something that's
worth a damn.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


I've already said my piece.... many times since march 11, 2011. I've been posting all along. I didn't just figure this shit out yesterday.

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Easy to Critisise people who put in over a year posting to the uncaring public sheep water bug has put alot of time in this for a reason like my self enjoy the cancer retard so sick of shills the media the press un willing to print facts .Our local paper refused to print my readings backed up by a few of us with a thorium mantle test in a digital geiger counter they said they have a survey meter suicide
honestly buck the sheep
A pissed off American veteran.

Merry Christmas. Ya filthy animals!





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