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TEPCO estimate sees more radiation than NISA's
[link to www.yomiuri.co.jp]

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Tokyo Electric Power Co. has estimated the total amount of radioactive substances discharged from its Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant measured 760,000 terabecquerels, 1.6 times the estimate released by the Economy, Trade and Industry Ministry's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency in February.

One terabecquerel is equal to 1 trillion becquerels.

TEPCO will include the estimate in a final report to be compiled by an in-house accident investigation committee in June. The firm has also begun explaining how it arrived at the figure to local governments in Fukushima Prefecture.

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Interesting.

That article makes it sound like the contamination and emissions are over with..

Don't think so.


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Water inside Fukushima No. 1 reactor may be only 40 cm deep
[link to mainichi.jp]

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The organization of nuclear experts estimated that the water in the primary containment vessel is only 40 centimeters deep. The utility known as TEPCO has estimated the water level to be about 1.9 meters.
Not disputed is the fact coolant water injected into the reactor is leaking as a result of the accident at the plant.

It assumed gas is leaking from the container's upper part and the coolant water from the lower part.
JNES thinks that the water injected into the reactor may be leaking from a hole located in a section connecting the primary container and the suppression pool, leaving the container with water just 40 cm in depth.

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Holes are most likely cracks from over-pressure.

Containment failure.

Do you believe JNES, atom-boyo?


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Color footage of A-bombed Nagasaki found in US
Color footage showing the victims of the atomic bombing in Nagasaki City has been found in the United States.

An organization in Hiroshima City, which also experienced an atomic bombing, found the 16-mm film, which had been taken by a US military doctor between October and November in 1945. The US dropped the bomb on the city in August that year.

The footage lasts some 21 minutes, capturing the landscapes of Nagasaki and Hiroshima after they were bombed. It also included nearly 20 victims who had been receiving treatment at a navy hospital in Omura city in Nagasaki Prefecture.
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Number of foreign visitors rebounds in April to pre-2011 quake level
The number of foreign visitors to Japan in April rebounded to a level similar to that prior to the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami, due mainly to an increase in Japan-bound flights including those of low-cost carriers, a government agency said Thursday.

The figure for last month rose 2.6-fold year-on-year to 780,800, only 0.9 percent lower than April 2010, the Japan National Tourism Organization said.
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TEPCO puts radiation release early in Fukushima crisis at 900,000 TBq
An estimated 900,000 terabecquerels of radioactive substances were released into the atmosphere in March last year alone due to the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Thursday.

The figure is larger than estimates issued by the government's nuclear safety agency or an oversight body, the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan, but far lower than the 5.2 million TBq believed to have been discharged in the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear accident.
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Oi plant can restart without Kansai leaders' nod: Fukui gov.
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Of course. Nuclear power is more important than the wishes of the people it supposedly serves..

Same here.

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UN: Fukushima workers did not die from radiation
A UN agency says the deaths of 6 workers who were involved in operations at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant were not linked to radiation.

UNSCEAR has been conducting scientific studies since May of last year. They were based on data provided by the Japanese government and focused on the effects of radiation on Fukushima plant workers.

UNSCEAR Chair Wolfgang Weiss said the committee confirmed that 8 of the roughly 20,000 workers who had been involved in operations at the plant until late January, were exposed to more than 100 millisieverts of radiation.
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Iran nuclear talks to continue next month
Six world powers and Iran haven't been able to reach an agreement over Tehran's nuclear program but they say talks will continue in Moscow on June 18th and 19th.

The latest round of negotiations ended in Iraq's capital, Baghdad, on Thursday, one day later than initially scheduled.
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Obama names nuclear waste expert Macfarlane as new NRC head
President Barack Obama said Thursday he has nominated nuclear waste expert Allison Macfarlane as the new chairman of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission to replace Gregory Jaczko.

Macfarlane, an associate professor at George Mason University in Virginia, will take the helm of the panel for the remainder of the current term expiring June 30, 2013.
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Hosono raps panel for seeming bias in favor of nuclear industry
Nuclear disaster minister Goshi Hosono on Friday criticized a government panel involved in reviewing the country's nuclear fuel cycle policy for what could be construed as bias in favor of the nuclear industry.

Hosono was referring to a study meeting convened by the Japan Atomic Energy Commission on April 24, during which the panel showed a draft report on the assessment of nuclear fuel cycle policy options only to promoters of nuclear power, such as utilities, before disclosing it to the public.
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Fukushima No. 4 spent fuel pool sound enough to store fuel: TEPCO
The operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant said Friday that its latest inspection has confirmed that the spent fuel pool of the No. 4 unit is not tilting and is capable of safely storing the nuclear fuel inside.

But Tokyo Electric Power Co. said that the west wall of the building housing the reactor and the spent fuel pool was found to be partially deformed and to have expanded 33 millimeters outward, apparently because of the impact of a hydrogen explosion in the early days of the nuclear crisis.
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Fukushima Update:

Go to 2:40 to see the NHK BS Gnewz.

[link to www.youtube.com]

The beginning is just Helen and Money-bot duking it out..I'd fast forward to the Terra BQs' at 2.40.
The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Fukushima Update:

Go to 2:40 to see the NHK BS Gnewz.

[link to www.youtube.com]

The beginning is just Helen and Money-bot duking it out..I'd fast forward to the Terra BQs' at 2.40.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


TY SC................ cheers
It's life as we know it, but only just.
My Fukushima Site:
[link to citizenperth.wordpress.com]
sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie

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Fukushima Update:

Go to 2:40 to see the NHK BS Gnewz.

[link to www.youtube.com]

The beginning is just Helen and Money-bot duking it out..I'd fast forward to the Terra BQs' at 2.40.
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TY SC................ cheers
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No problemo Citizen P.

The Bullshit is just incredible.

Nearly all news reported now about Fukushima is completely clouded by a haze of confusion that has been sprayed into the minds of the viewers since 3/11.

The BBC had a Comedian Griff Rhys Jones reporting pro-nuke info on 'Question Time' last Night.

According to him all is good,more or less with the Daiichi site,F***er.

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 05/25/2012 12:30 PM
The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Geologist Is Nominated to Lead Nuclear Agency
[link to www.nytimes.com]

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“Dr. Macfarlane is a highly regarded expert who was a member of the president’s Blue Ribbon Commission on America’s Nuclear Future and has spent years analyzing nuclear issues while at George Mason University, Harvard University as well as at M.I.T.,” said Clark Stevens, a White House spokesman.

The Senate is currently considering Mr. Obama’s appointment of Kristine L. Svinicki, a current member of the commission originally nominated by President George W. Bush, to a second five-year term. The Senate is likely to consider the two appointments in tandem, possibly easing the political path for each.

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We're screwed..

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The NRC chief is out. Let’s get a new one on the job quickly
[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

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They are creaming their jeans in DC..

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Low dose exposure review:


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The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Exclusive: ‘Crack’ Finds Omaha’s Nuclear Plant Under Investigation Again
[link to missouri-news.org]

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While utility officials work to restart the Fort Calhoun nuclear power plant Nebraska Watchdog has learned that the reactor is the subject of another investigation.

A year ago a fire at the plant became a major safety issue; now a 2-inch crack inside the containment building has federal inspectors once again wondering what went wrong.



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Duh.. Wonder what happened..? scratching

Not what you want to hear from nukesters..

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Exclusive: ‘Crack’ Finds Omaha’s Nuclear Plant Under Investigation Again
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While utility officials work to restart the Fort Calhoun nuclear power plant Nebraska Watchdog has learned that the reactor is the subject of another investigation.

A year ago a fire at the plant became a major safety issue; now a 2-inch crack inside the containment building has federal inspectors once again wondering what went wrong.



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Duh.. Wonder what happened..? scratching

Not what you want to hear from nukesters..

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


They obviously have a leak ion the Containment which is causing the rapid onset of weakening the Concrete.

This is the second time at this plant,no?
The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Just to take away some of the MSM Haze of the Daiichi Accident,here is a upload from August Last year.


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Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 05/25/2012 01:45 PM
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current average in Vancouver BC

.153 uSv/hr average based on 60 sec samples aver 3000+ hrs

combined alpha beta gamma...

highs of .234 uSv/hr



PS.for you gardeners... try using glacial rock dust in your garden to help bind with the bad stuff...

type in Giaa glacial rock dust, soil remediation germany, and chernobyl ( they feed the guys there the same kind of glacial dust.. 5 to 15 gram a day... it an interesting journey.

all things aside its a killer upgrade for your garden soil

I eat 1/2 to 1 teaspoon a day of giaa rock dust, have since the little accident in japan,
this is mixed with (same amounts)
calcium carbinate(ph),
magnesium citrate(magnesium source for bones),
and coral calcium(calcium to build bones)think saturated bone build sites
Maple syrup(sulfers)
and 4-10 drops of Lugals formula Iodine(thyroid).

mixed in a good unfiltered apple juice.

from downtown vancouver

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Exclusive: ‘Crack’ Finds Omaha’s Nuclear Plant Under Investigation Again
[link to missouri-news.org]

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While utility officials work to restart the Fort Calhoun nuclear power plant Nebraska Watchdog has learned that the reactor is the subject of another investigation.

A year ago a fire at the plant became a major safety issue; now a 2-inch crack inside the containment building has federal inspectors once again wondering what went wrong.



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Duh.. Wonder what happened..? scratching

Not what you want to hear from nukesters..

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


They obviously have a leak ion the Containment which is causing the rapid onset of weakening the Concrete.

This is the second time at this plant,no?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Yeah. They had the flood last year. Sandbags and a big condom...

This shit is getting ridiculous.
Indian Point. Pilgrim. Vermont Yankee. Limerick.

We are sitting on a powder keg with a lit match in hand...
makes me so damned angry. The absolute stupidity..


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Exclusive: ‘Crack’ Finds Omaha’s Nuclear Plant Under Investigation Again
[link to missouri-news.org]

[snip]

While utility officials work to restart the Fort Calhoun nuclear power plant Nebraska Watchdog has learned that the reactor is the subject of another investigation.

A year ago a fire at the plant became a major safety issue; now a 2-inch crack inside the containment building has federal inspectors once again wondering what went wrong.



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Duh.. Wonder what happened..? scratching

Not what you want to hear from nukesters..

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


They obviously have a leak ion the Containment which is causing the rapid onset of weakening the Concrete.

This is the second time at this plant,no?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Yeah. They had the flood last year. Sandbags and a big condom...

This shit is getting ridiculous.
Indian Point. Pilgrim. Vermont Yankee. Limerick.

We are sitting on a powder keg with a lit match in hand...
makes me so damned angry. The absolute stupidity..


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One big problem is that the majority of these sites are well past their original decommission dates. The companies running them just kept rolling over "extensions".
As his vision slowly cleared, the traveler came to the startling realization that he had been sitting by the side of the road, repeatedly hitting himself in the head with his walking staff. He had in fact been doing this for a quarter of a century.

Shaking his head at his own folly, he dusted himself off, set his gaze upon the road up the mountain and once more set off upon his journey.
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current average in Vancouver BC

.153 uSv/hr average based on 60 sec samples aver 3000+ hrs

combined alpha beta gamma...

highs of .234 uSv/hr



PS.for you gardeners... try using glacial rock dust in your garden to help bind with the bad stuff...

type in Giaa glacial rock dust, soil remediation germany, and chernobyl ( they feed the guys there the same kind of glacial dust.. 5 to 15 gram a day... it an interesting journey.

all things aside its a killer upgrade for your garden soil

I eat 1/2 to 1 teaspoon a day of giaa rock dust, have since the little accident in japan,
this is mixed with (same amounts)
calcium carbinate(ph),
magnesium citrate(magnesium source for bones),
and coral calcium(calcium to build bones)think saturated bone build sites
Maple syrup(sulfers)
and 4-10 drops of Lugals formula Iodine(thyroid).

mixed in a good unfiltered apple juice.

from downtown vancouver

Silver
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Good info. Thanks, S.

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While utility officials work to restart the Fort Calhoun nuclear power plant Nebraska Watchdog has learned that the reactor is the subject of another investigation.

A year ago a fire at the plant became a major safety issue; now a 2-inch crack inside the containment building has federal inspectors once again wondering what went wrong.



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Duh.. Wonder what happened..? scratching

Not what you want to hear from nukesters..

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


They obviously have a leak ion the Containment which is causing the rapid onset of weakening the Concrete.

This is the second time at this plant,no?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Yeah. They had the flood last year. Sandbags and a big condom...

This shit is getting ridiculous.
Indian Point. Pilgrim. Vermont Yankee. Limerick.

We are sitting on a powder keg with a lit match in hand...
makes me so damned angry. The absolute stupidity..


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One big problem is that the majority of these sites are well past their original decommission dates. The companies running them just kept rolling over "extensions".
 Quoting: Khalen


Exactly.

The NRC has granted 20 year extensions to 21 of 22 GE Mark I systems.. same as fuku reactors. The other is pending.

Gee. I wonder if they'll give it to them..

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[snip]

While utility officials work to restart the Fort Calhoun nuclear power plant Nebraska Watchdog has learned that the reactor is the subject of another investigation.

A year ago a fire at the plant became a major safety issue; now a 2-inch crack inside the containment building has federal inspectors once again wondering what went wrong.



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Duh.. Wonder what happened..? scratching

Not what you want to hear from nukesters..

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


They obviously have a leak ion the Containment which is causing the rapid onset of weakening the Concrete.

This is the second time at this plant,no?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Yeah. They had the flood last year. Sandbags and a big condom...

This shit is getting ridiculous.
Indian Point. Pilgrim. Vermont Yankee. Limerick.

We are sitting on a powder keg with a lit match in hand...
makes me so damned angry. The absolute stupidity..


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Sorry all,excuse my original comment..I got my NPP's mixed up..I thought it was a different NPP,not Ft.Calhoun : )

There are so many,many problems currently with nearly every Countries rapidly ageing Power Plants.

Crazy times.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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While utility officials work to restart the Fort Calhoun nuclear power plant Nebraska Watchdog has learned that the reactor is the subject of another investigation.

A year ago a fire at the plant became a major safety issue; now a 2-inch crack inside the containment building has federal inspectors once again wondering what went wrong.



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Duh.. Wonder what happened..? scratching

Not what you want to hear from nukesters..

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


They obviously have a leak ion the Containment which is causing the rapid onset of weakening the Concrete.

This is the second time at this plant,no?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


Yeah. They had the flood last year. Sandbags and a big condom...

This shit is getting ridiculous.
Indian Point. Pilgrim. Vermont Yankee. Limerick.

We are sitting on a powder keg with a lit match in hand...
makes me so damned angry. The absolute stupidity..


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


Sorry all,excuse my original comment..I got my NPP's mixed up..I thought it was a different NPP,not Ft.Calhoun : )

There are so many,many problems currently with nearly every Countries rapidly ageing Power Plants.

Crazy times.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I agree SP...strange times ahead
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current average in Vancouver BC

.153 uSv/hr average based on 60 sec samples aver 3000+ hrs

combined alpha beta gamma...

highs of .234 uSv/hr



PS.for you gardeners... try using glacial rock dust in your garden to help bind with the bad stuff...

type in Giaa glacial rock dust, soil remediation germany, and chernobyl ( they feed the guys there the same kind of glacial dust.. 5 to 15 gram a day... it an interesting journey.

all things aside its a killer upgrade for your garden soil

I eat 1/2 to 1 teaspoon a day of giaa rock dust, have since the little accident in japan,
this is mixed with (same amounts)
calcium carbinate(ph),
magnesium citrate(magnesium source for bones),
and coral calcium(calcium to build bones)think saturated bone build sites
Maple syrup(sulfers)
and 4-10 drops of Lugals formula Iodine(thyroid).

mixed in a good unfiltered apple juice.

from downtown vancouver

Silver
 Quoting: .9999 Silver

Thanks for the gardening note. We are trying to find some zeolite but have been using diatomaceous earth. The DE also works to keep the snails and slugs away.
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If they had any sense at all they would shut down all the old design-flawed plants, now.
Energy be damned. We are NOT collateral damage, NRC.
I have a coleman stove and a coal oil lantern.. and I know how to use them.
Rolling blackouts don't cause radiation poisoning.


Can't post the link.. but Pilgrim just had a scram.
Gurgle it.
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Absolutley WaterBug,

Rolling Blackouts are not the end of the world, but rather they have some positive side effects for individuals, but not for big business or government.

I've lived in Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, and now Mexico, and gotten used to rolling blackout routines in all these countries, and really I swear I see more benefits in this to the public than problems.

People become more self sufficient, often learning do without the electricity in the first place,

we remember to better economize our usage when we do have power,

and maybe more important of all, we often get forced away at least for a while from addictions to things like GLP, and people often take the advantage of the break to go out and do something like get some food from a candle lit street vendor and chat with the neighbors or something.
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If they had any sense at all they would shut down all the old design-flawed plants, now.
Energy be damned. We are NOT collateral damage, NRC.
I have a coleman stove and a coal oil lantern.. and I know how to use them.
Rolling blackouts don't cause radiation poisoning.


Can't post the link.. but Pilgrim just had a scram.
Gurgle it.
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Absolutley WaterBug,

Rolling Blackouts are not the end of the world, but rather they have some positive side effects for individuals, but not for big business or government.

I've lived in Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, and now Mexico, and gotten used to rolling blackout routines in all these countries, and really I swear I see more benefits in this to the public than problems.

People become more self sufficient, often learning do without the electricity in the first place,

we remember to better economize our usage when we do have power,

and maybe more important of all, we often get forced away at least for a while from addictions to things like GLP, and people often take the advantage of the break to go out and do something like get some food from a candle lit street vendor and chat with the neighbors or something.
 Quoting: ehecatl


I agree....I have lived off grid for 15 years...you go with the flow...try to schedule time on the computer....





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