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How hard is it to dismantle 150 nuclear reactors? Europe’s about to find out.
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Yet the mere act of shutting down those reactors is going to pose a huge challenge in the years ahead. According to a new report from GlobalData, Europe is on track to decommission nearly 150 nuclear power plants in the next two decades. Some, like those in Germany, are being mothballed for political reasons. Others, in France and Britain, are simply getting old. Yet dismantling a nuclear reactor is an arduous, time-consuming task — typically costing between $400 million and $1 billion per plant. And it’s not clear that Europe is fully prepared for the onslaught of retirements.

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Evacuate Tokyo and All US Forces From Japan
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Without Emergency Generators, loss of regular electricity feeds means the white hot reactor cores start evaporating all the water immediately and then melting down in hours. The big generators were the wrong voltage for the 600 Volt pump motors.

“The icing on the cake, the General Electric engines require a voltage of 600 volts that the emergency generators were unable to deliver”.


Original French text: “Cerise sur le gâteau, les réacteurs General Electric nécessitent une tension de 600 Volts que les générateurs de secours étaient incapables de délivrer”

The cause of the proximate murder of most, if not all, humans on Earth is a complicated tale of corruption and sabotage by more than one person surrounding the brutal meltdowns and explosions of three devastated and highly radioactive reactors at Fukushima Daiichi.

Forget the over-hyped M8.3 Earthquake and the subsequent deadly tsunami; they are distractions for the simple minded.

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It is an open joke and a term of extreme contempt that, in Japan, politicians and other professional liars for hire say “Smiling people do not get radiation poisoning.”


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When that high voltage tower fell, meltdown became a forgone conclusion.

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Fairewinds' Arnie Gundersen on Coast to Coast radio Fukushima Daiichi Special tonight 10 pm PDT & 1 am EDT [link to DON'T_USE-THIS]
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Cesium 134/137 found in Hachijo jima 494 km from Fukushima
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Tepco rejected covering reactor 4 with stone coffin for financial matter
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Mabuchi proposed to cover the 4 aspects of reactor 4 with concrete, which is called sarcophagus in Chernobyl just after 311. However, Tepco rejected it for the financial reason. Also, their pride as engineer stopped them from accepting the fact that they have to do the same thing as Chernobyl.

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well, well, well.....

don't worry about the population you murderous sick twisted mofos......
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Criminal act..?

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i'm speechless
they have upped the prices, and are still in control....
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Thanks Water Bug and many spirits thank you for all your work on this forum.

I'm glad I checked up on this thread today. It sort of confirms what I figured out after about 3 months passed and they still were not capping things over.

I don't know if an excuse of "we had big egos", and "it would have cost to much" are good enough excuses to relieve them from culpability. Maybe when the biological toll starts to become more apparent to the public (it hasn't yet, much) maybe then some token amends will be made. By that time there may be other similar disasters fuming considering all the other over aging similar GE reactors around the world.

I wonder if they will leave these open wounds to the atmosphere open for the rest of eternity? while society continues to pave countless square miles with concrete roads and parking lots, etc etc. Concrete and boron is too expense to cap a melt-through nuclear reactor that fumes radioactive material non-stop into the atmosphere and sends it to the US and Canada though. That makes sense.

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Gov't to authorize restarting Ohi nuclear plant
The Japanese government is expected to authorize the resumption of a nuclear power plant in Fukui Prefecture, central Japan, as early as Saturday.

The move will follow Sunday's approval by the prefecture's nuclear safety committee of a report guaranteeing the safety of the No. 3 and No. 4 reactors at the Ohi power plant.

The report will be submitted to Fukui Governor Issei Nishikawa as early as Monday. Nishikawa will then inspect the nuclear power plant and make a decision.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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well, well, well.....

don't worry about the population you murderous sick twisted mofos......
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Criminal act..?

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i'm speechless
they have upped the prices, and are still in control....
 Quoting: citizenperth


Thanks Water Bug and many spirits thank you for all your work on this forum.

I'm glad I checked up on this thread today. It sort of confirms what I figured out after about 3 months passed and they still were not capping things over.

I don't know if an excuse of "we had big egos", and "it would have cost to much" are good enough excuses to relieve them from culpability. Maybe when the biological toll starts to become more apparent to the public (it hasn't yet, much) maybe then some token amends will be made. By that time there may be other similar disasters fuming considering all the other over aging similar GE reactors around the world.

I wonder if they will leave these open wounds to the atmosphere open for the rest of eternity?
while society continues to pave countless square miles with concrete roads and parking lots, etc etc. Concrete and boron is too expense to cap a melt-through nuclear reactor that fumes radioactive material non-stop into the atmosphere and sends it to the US and Canada though. That makes sense.
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It floors me. No honor. No compassion. Coldly calculated.

The backup generator voltage mismatch is also appalling.

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Without Emergency Generators, loss of regular electricity feeds means the white hot reactor cores start evaporating all the water immediately and then melting down in hours. The big generators were the wrong voltage for the 600 Volt pump motors.

“The icing on the cake, the General Electric engines require a voltage of 600 volts that the emergency generators were unable to deliver”.




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It is an open joke and a term of extreme contempt that, in Japan, politicians and other professional liars for hire say “Smiling people do not get radiation poisoning.”


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This was over on the Indiana Radiation thread and I know some have seen it, but it is worth placing here. A time-line showing the locations and types of nuclear explosions on the planet.

It seems kind of tedious at the beginning and then you see why.

What it lacks is the final decade or so, and it should now include nuclear plant disasters too, which in the case of Fukushima and Chernobyl should rate as more than a bomb.

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Confronting America's Nuclear-Waste Dilemma
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Right now, all of the spent nuclear fuel in the country--more than 65,000 tons--is stored onsite. Eighty percent is stored in water-filled pools, which are considered less safe than the steel-enclosed casks that store the remaining 20 percent.

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Court Issues NRC Another Rebuke on Spent Fuel Policies
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“This is a game changer,” said Geoff Fettus, who argued before the court in March. He is a senior project attorney with the Natural Resources Defense Council, which is among the environmental groups that joined four Northeastern states and the Prairie Island Indian tribe in bringing the suit. “This forces the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to take a hard look at the environmental consequences of producing highly radioactive nuclear waste without a long-term disposal solution. The court found: 'The Commission apparently has no long-term plan other than hoping for a geologic repository,’” he said in an NRDC release Friday.

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Alberta researchers claim isotope breakthrough
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Fukushima residents call for criminal charges against nuclear officials
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The executives of the Japanese utility that owns the stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant and a number of the country's government officials should go to jail, according to a complaint filed by more than 1,000 local residents on Monday.

A total of 1,324 people lodged the unusual criminal complaint with the Fukushima prosecutor's office, naming Tsunehisa Katsumata, the chairman of Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) and 32 others.

The complaint argues that the 33 TEPCO executives and government officials are responsible for causing the nuclear disaster that followed the March 11 earthquake and tsunami and exposing the people of Fukushima to radiation.

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Violent fluctuations of hydrogen concentration in reactor1
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80,000 Bq/Kg from Imperial Palace
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Shipping regulation for Izuoshima island 333km from Fukushima
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70 percent of residents near Fukushima nuke plant forced to evacuate at least 4 times after disaster
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Scientist panel okays nuclear restart
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Fukushima Special
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Govt. to authorize restarting Ohi nuclear plant
The Japanese government is expected to authorize the resumption of a nuclear power plant in Fukui Prefecture, central Japan, as early as Saturday.

The move will follow Sunday's approval by the prefecture's nuclear safety committee of a report guaranteeing the safety of the No. 3 and No. 4 reactors at the Ohi power plant.

The report will be submitted to Fukui Governor Issei Nishikawa as early as Monday. Nishikawa will then inspect the nuclear power plant and make a decision.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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Govt. knew radiation fallout forecast reliable
A report suggests that Japan's government knew its radiation fallout simulations were reliable, but refused to release the data for more than one month after the nuclear accident in Fukushima.

NHK has obtained the science ministry's draft report on its responses to the accident, including the handling of the SPEEDI simulation system.

The report says the ministry sent officials to Namie Town, Fukushima Prefecture on March 15th last year based on a forecast by the system on the same day.

Measurements showed that the town located 20 kilometers from the nuclear plant had high levels of radiation --- 330 microsieverts per hour. [link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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..Well here's my two cents again...

...was nice to see confirmation of the highs I read back in Dec/Jan in vancouver Via the stuff published about the highs then in california....

I had as high as .723 usv/hr back then
... more around the 400 - 550 uSv/hr though

Currently here in Vancouver

average based on 60 hrs of recording 60 sec counts... in the open air

.141 uSv/hr/ 14-15 counts per min

highs... .230 uSv/hr or 23 counts/min

lows... .065 uSv/hr or 6 counts/min (old background level from what I can gather, the paper doc's are scambled like crazy now.

had one single spike of .628 uSv/hr not sure...

have 4000 + logged hrs now...won't be fooled again...

just a comment... went to the Hosp. with the rather drunk wife...tried to smash her foot good... any way though helll why not ask the radiology department at the hospital what their safe exposure level was...This is the VGH big hosp. here....
20 people including the safety officer did not know...
and it took them almost 25 minutes to find a maybee answer... they think its.... so I still don't know...

they did not know... none of them...

and they are running the equipment....

...also just wondering what the little smoke release from #4 was a few days ago ... seen a .010 to .015 rise in the in the uSv/hr average last few days.

cant remember the air jet stream direction and speed over the last few days... usually takes about three days for things there to show here if the streams coming this way...

was below .130 uSv/hr previous 180 hrs

just speculations though... just telling what the meters reading.

thanks for all the other updates and stuff
it's gonna be a long haul ... if were lucky...
unlucky????..... well then
... "Duck and Cover"...
I'm sure you've seen the safety drill...

If I see anything dramatic this blog will get the first post

for now ... breath carefully... and keep your eye's on the little ball... and the empty hands...

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..Well here's my two cents again...


thanks for all the other updates and stuff
it's gonna be a long haul ... if were lucky...
unlucky????..... well then
... "Duck and Cover"...
I'm sure you've seen the safety drill...

If I see anything dramatic this blog will get the first post

for now ... breath carefully... and keep your eye's on the little ball... and the empty hands...

Silver
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Thanks for the update, S.

Just curious. Are the MSM in Canada informing the people or is it still in lockdown?

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Ohi mayor to back nuclear resumption
The mayor of a town that hosts a nuclear power plant is expected to give consent to a resumption of the plant's operation.

The Ohi nuclear power plant in Ohi Town, Fukui Prefecture, is offline for scheduled safety checks.

Ohi mayor Shinobu Tokioka is expected to announce to the town assembly on Thursday that he will approve switching the reactors back on.
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IAEA training program begins in Tokai village
An international study program on nuclear energy and the Fukushima accident has begun in Tokai village, north of Tokyo.

Engineers from countries mainly in Asia and Africa are taking part in the Nuclear Energy Management School.
The program is sponsored by the International Atomic Energy Agency.
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If I see anything dramatic this blog will get the first post

for now ... breath carefully... and keep your eye's on the little ball... and the empty hands...

Silver
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Thanks for the update, S.

Just curious. Are the MSM in Canada informing the people or is it still in lockdown?

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Most people here think it was done in june....
complete mainstream blackout here...

they have 2 nuke plants in the line for the Oil Sands and don't want to rock the boat... ah well..

the last 2 trips i took to alberta it was 2-3 time higher in the readings than here... the plains i think got hosed at least in alberta
...same south central bc. the central Summerland recreational area was the worst...

did this with the
gieger hanging out the car window
laptop in back seat
...while driving
... wife rolling her eyes at me
... for 4000 km of driving
... twice.

even the people working in the hospitals were not aware... that it was not completely under control... almost like they think nothing bad came out of the reactors...

Idiots...

Silver
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If I see anything dramatic this blog will get the first post

for now ... breath carefully... and keep your eye's on the little ball... and the empty hands...

Silver
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Thanks for the update, S.

Just curious. Are the MSM in Canada informing the people or is it still in lockdown?

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wb
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673
Most people here think it was done in june....
complete mainstream blackout here...

they have 2 nuke plants in the line for the Oil Sands and don't want to rock the boat... ah well..

the last 2 trips i took to alberta it was 2-3 time higher in the readings than here... the plains i think got hosed at least in alberta
...same south central bc. the central Summerland recreational area was the worst...

did this with the
gieger hanging out the car window
laptop in back seat
...while driving
... wife rolling her eyes at me
... for 4000 km of driving
... twice.

even the people working in the hospitals were not aware... that it was not completely under control... almost like they think nothing bad came out of the reactors...

Idiots...

Silver
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Thanks for your time, I really appreciate that there are people like you out there taking readings.
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Radioactive mosquitoes blamed for contaminated bird droppings at Sellafield nuclear site
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Oh hell.. radioactive mosquitoes.hiding

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ISIS Report 11/06/12
Fukushima Fallout Rivals Chernobyl
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The results obtained for the total release of Xe-133 was 15.3 EBq (uncertainty range 12.2-18.3, EBq – 1018 Bq), more than 2 x total release from Chernobyl (Chernobyl total was 5.2 EBq) and “likely the largest radioactive noble gas release in history”. This took place between 11 and 15 March 2011. In fact, the release is greater than the entire estimated Xe-133 inventory of the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant, and is explained by the decay of I-133 (half-life 20.8h) into Xe-133. There is strong evidence that Xe-133 release started before the first active venting was made, possibly from structural damage to reactor components and/or leaks due to excessive pressure inside the reactor.

For Cs-137, the inversion modelling results gave a total emission of 36.6 PBq (20.1-53.2, PBq = 1015 Bq); 70 % more than first guess, and about 43 % of estimated Chernobyl emission. The results showed that Cs-137 emission peaked on 14-15 March but were generally high from 12 until 19 March, when they suddenly dropped by orders of magnitude at the time when spraying of water on the spent-fuel pool of unit 4 started. This indicates the emission may not have originated only from the damaged reactor cores, but also from the spent fuel pool of unit 4.

- Radioactive clouds reached North America on 15 March and Europe on 22 March. By mid-April, Xe-133 was fairly uniformly distributed in the mid-latitudes of the entire Northern Hemisphere and was for the first time also measured in the Southern Hemisphere (Darwin Station, Australia). In general, simulated and observed concentrations of Xe-133 and Cs-137 both at Japanese as well as distant sites were in good quantitative agreement.

- On 14 March, a cyclone developed over southern Japan, and this coincided with a period of very high emissions from ventings and explosions of unit 2, unit 3 and in the spent-fuel pool of unit 4. (Details of the release events are given in an Appendix of the paper [4].)

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Reticent government to blame as new media tell true nuclear story
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In post-Fukushima Japan, the government and nuclear industry "expertitioners" often claim that bloggers and tweeters monitoring the crisis have fanned the flames of mistrust and impeded reconstruction and recovery efforts. Yet, in too many cases, nontraditional sources were the only ones that revealed the extent of contamination in certain areas, the severity of the Fukushima disaster, the consequent risks, and the presence of food contamination the government's own monitoring failed to detect.

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Japan: Ignorance and/or Dishonesty of "Energy Experts"
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Since the tragic and ongoing nuclear disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power plant began, Japan has been plunged into an intense energy policy debate.

Those forces in favor of a nuclear comeback proclaim that there would be no alternative to a restart.

Studies and other papers are utilizing rather unsound methods of arranging selectively collected data and quotes from other studies (some of which were conducted in the same way) in order to reach a pre-determined conclusion.

I call these kinds of studies weapons of disinformation because their sole purpose is to convince the public and industrial and political leaders who might not have enough subject knowledge to notice the bias.

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Yep. Japan is not familiar with truth in advertising.. chuckle

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