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Hugh M Eye

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Enenews is saying a wall at Unit 4 has collapsed.
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I think they are removing debris and getting ready to install the new structural panels.
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Guess we'll see. I can't tell from the photos. If the SFP collapses it will be obvious.
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The reason I think this is planned construction is because the missing parts are so cleanly gone, no jagged edges. My construction eyes say clean cut rather than collapse.
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Thanks for all the updates guys and gals! This video is from Dec. 9-



However on Dec. 6 you can see two small cranes--I can't tell if it's planned demolition or a clean-up operation.

Sorry, photo not approved yet.
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Here's the photo from Dec. 6:
:fuku4:

And here's story w/more vids. popcorn Thanks for staying on this "Story of the Millennium".

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I guess they are talking about the removal of the top 2 sections of wall which are above the SFP. The steel framing juts from this area. The damaged concrete was probably obstructing the new containment panel installation.

If the wall under the SFP had collapsed we'd know for sure at this point.

Southern Oregon is on top of this.
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Noda to declare cold shutdown at Fukushima plant
The Japanese government will soon declare that a state of cold shutdown has been achieved for all the reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

The announcement scheduled for Friday will mean the achievement of the second phase of the timetable to bring the plant under control. The timetable, revised in October, aims to achieve this phase by the year-end.
The government has now confirmed that all the conditions have been met.
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TEPCO warned against radioactive water leak
Radioactive water leaking from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant has earned the operator a reprimand. It was the second seepage from the plant's desalination equipment in less than 10 days.
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Fukushima releases radiation checkup results
Japan's Fukushima Prefecture says a survey shows that radiation exposure levels among residents near the damaged nuclear plant are low, with little health impact.

The prefecture has been checking the health of its nearly 2-million residents, focusing on estimates of their external radiation exposure during the 4 months since the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

On Tuesday, the prefecture released the results for 1,727 people in Namie Town, Iitate Village and a district in Kawamata Town. The municipalities are 10 to 50 kilometers from the plant.

Fukushima says 1,675, or 97 percent, of the people are thought to have been exposed to less than 5 millisieverts of radiation. 1,084 people are thought to have been exposed to less than one millisievert -- the government's safety limit for one year.
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Radioactive cesium detected in Tokyo grade school
An extremely high reading of radioactive cesium has been detected on a groundsheet at an elementary school in Tokyo.

Officials of Suginami Ward detected 90,600 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium on the sheet. It was used to protect the school lawn against frost from March 18th to April 6th, soon after the Fukushima nuclear accident. The school is located about 230 kilometers from the nuclear plant.

The sheet's radioactivity level is over 11 times the government's 8,000 becquerels-per-kilogram limit for disposal by burying underground.
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Noda to declare cold shutdown at Fukushima plant
The Japanese government will soon declare that a state of cold shutdown has been achieved for all the reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

The announcement scheduled for Friday will mean the achievement of the second phase of the timetable to bring the plant under control. The timetable, revised in October, aims to achieve this phase by the year-end.
The government has now confirmed that all the conditions have been met.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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Declarin' it don't make it so.

I declare I am a billionaire.

Nope. Didn't work. Still poor.
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Noda to declare cold shutdown at Fukushima plant
The Japanese government will soon declare that a state of cold shutdown has been achieved for all the reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

The announcement scheduled for Friday will mean the achievement of the second phase of the timetable to bring the plant under control. The timetable, revised in October, aims to achieve this phase by the year-end.
The government has now confirmed that all the conditions have been met.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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cruisepope2norespect
It's life as we know it, but only just.
My Fukushima Site:
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Radioactive cesium detected in Tokyo grade school
An extremely high reading of radioactive cesium has been detected on a groundsheet at an elementary school in Tokyo.

Officials of Suginami Ward detected 90,600 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium on the sheet. It was used to protect the school lawn against frost from March 18th to April 6th, soon after the Fukushima nuclear accident. The school is located about 230 kilometers from the nuclear plant.

The sheet's radioactivity level is over 11 times the government's 8,000 becquerels-per-kilogram limit for disposal by burying underground.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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What the fuck are these Japs thinking?

All of the children should have been relocated immediately after the meltdowns.

The people in the Jap gov and Tepco who deliberately withheld the information that could have saved them, and who continue to allow them to be exposed needlessly, have destroyed their futures.

I hope to Jebus that these criminals are brought to account for these crimes.
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Radioactive cesium detected in Tokyo grade school
An extremely high reading of radioactive cesium has been detected on a groundsheet at an elementary school in Tokyo.

Officials of Suginami Ward detected 90,600 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium on the sheet. It was used to protect the school lawn against frost from March 18th to April 6th, soon after the Fukushima nuclear accident. The school is located about 230 kilometers from the nuclear plant.

The sheet's radioactivity level is over 11 times the government's 8,000 becquerels-per-kilogram limit for disposal by burying underground.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478654


What the fuck are these Japs thinking?

All of the children should have been relocated immediately after the meltdowns.

The people in the Jap gov and Tepco who deliberately withheld the information that could have saved them, and who continue to allow them to be exposed needlessly, have destroyed their futures.

I hope to Jebus that these criminals are brought to account for these crimes.
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If not, it is us that need to rise up.. i sit here recording, and smouldering....... global ELE and murder.... i am now ready to go if the call is made against this global genocide....

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It's life as we know it, but only just.
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Noda to declare cold shutdown at Fukushima plant
The Japanese government will soon declare that a state of cold shutdown has been achieved for all the reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

The announcement scheduled for Friday will mean the achievement of the second phase of the timetable to bring the plant under control. The timetable, revised in October, aims to achieve this phase by the year-end.
The government has now confirmed that all the conditions have been met.
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cruisepope2norespect
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Definition:

"Cold shutdown
The term used to define a reactor coolant system at atmospheric pressure and at a temperature below 200 degrees Fahrenheit following a reactor cooldown."
[link to www.nrc.gov]

It has nothing to do with radiation levels...
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Noda to declare cold shutdown at Fukushima plant
The Japanese government will soon declare that a state of cold shutdown has been achieved for all the reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

The announcement scheduled for Friday will mean the achievement of the second phase of the timetable to bring the plant under control. The timetable, revised in October, aims to achieve this phase by the year-end.
The government has now confirmed that all the conditions have been met.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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cruisepope2norespect
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Definition:

"Cold shutdown
The term used to define a reactor coolant system at atmospheric pressure and at a temperature below 200 degrees Fahrenheit following a reactor cooldown."
[link to www.nrc.gov]

It has nothing to do with radiation levels...
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yeah, we know this... there is no "Shut down", like turning off your car.....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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Areva to cut up to 1,500 jobs in Germany
PARIS (AP) France's state-controlled nuclear giant Areva announced plans Tuesday to cut jobs and suspend projects around the world as part of a five-year turnaround plan, aimed at returning to profit after posting a massive financial loss in 2011.
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Areva to cut up to 1,500 jobs in Germany
PARIS (AP) France's state-controlled nuclear giant Areva announced plans Tuesday to cut jobs and suspend projects around the world as part of a five-year turnaround plan, aimed at returning to profit after posting a massive financial loss in 2011.
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no surprises there.. i love the way you look outside the box sweden ^5
It's life as we know it, but only just.
My Fukushima Site:
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“If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on it, I would use the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I knew the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes.”
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Areva to cut up to 1,500 jobs in Germany
PARIS (AP) France's state-controlled nuclear giant Areva announced plans Tuesday to cut jobs and suspend projects around the world as part of a five-year turnaround plan, aimed at returning to profit after posting a massive financial loss in 2011.
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no surprises there.. i love the way you look outside the box sweden ^5
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Maybe it's because I'm inside the box... lol...
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Radioactive cesium detected in Tokyo grade school
An extremely high reading of radioactive cesium has been detected on a groundsheet at an elementary school in Tokyo.

Officials of Suginami Ward detected 90,600 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium on the sheet. It was used to protect the school lawn against frost from March 18th to April 6th, soon after the Fukushima nuclear accident. The school is located about 230 kilometers from the nuclear plant.

The sheet's radioactivity level is over 11 times the government's 8,000 becquerels-per-kilogram limit for disposal by burying underground.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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What the fuck are these Japs thinking?

All of the children should have been relocated immediately after the meltdowns.

The people in the Jap gov and Tepco who deliberately withheld the information that could have saved them, and who continue to allow them to be exposed needlessly, have destroyed their futures.


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You are right,

we can be very lucky that whole Japan was in a state of shock
in the Days after the Catastrophe and nearly no one was going out!

(because of the EQ many Train Lines stopped their Service
and nearly all Companies and Institutions stayed closed,
it was the pure Apocalyptic Feeling)
G.Y.!B.E.
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Govt releases rules for nuclear fallout cleanup
Japan's Environment Ministry has issued specific rules and procedures for cleaning up fallout from the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

The ordinance says the central government will shoulder the cost of decontaminating soil in areas with radiation levels of 0.23 microsieverts per hour or above.
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Kyushu Electric submits test results of 3 reactors
Kyushu Electric Power Company submitted the results of primary safety assessments for 3 suspended nuclear reactors on Wednesday.

The reports to the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency are one of the prerequisites for restarting reactors that have been idled for regular checkups. The other condition is approval of the local municipality.
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Hiroshima dome to be checked for damage
Hiroshima City has begun assessing damage from aging at the landmark Atomic Bomb Dome.

On the first day of the seventh triennial check-up on Wednesday, workers delivered scaffolding to the compound, which is usually off-limits.

The dome, which survived the 1945 atomic bombing at ground-zero, is a UNESCO World Heritage site.
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Radioactive cesium detected in Tokyo grade school
An extremely high reading of radioactive cesium has been detected on a groundsheet at an elementary school in Tokyo.

Officials of Suginami Ward detected 90,600 becquerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium on the sheet. It was used to protect the school lawn against frost from March 18th to April 6th, soon after the Fukushima nuclear accident. The school is located about 230 kilometers from the nuclear plant.

The sheet's radioactivity level is over 11 times the government's 8,000 becquerels-per-kilogram limit for disposal by burying underground.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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What the fuck are these Japs thinking?

All of the children should have been relocated immediately after the meltdowns.

The people in the Jap gov and Tepco who deliberately withheld the information that could have saved them, and who continue to allow them to be exposed needlessly, have destroyed their futures.


 Quoting: bug 1295673


You are right,

we can be very lucky that whole Japan was in a state of shock
in the Days after the Catastrophe and nearly no one was going out!

(because of the EQ many Train Lines stopped their Service
and nearly all Companies and Institutions stayed closed,
it was the pure Apocalyptic Feeling)
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


you are appologetic one day, and angry the next.. you are a discrace...... pick one side or another.... ugg.. you disgust me.. go and do something that counts.....
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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Fukushima - Could it Have a China Syndrome?
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I missed this one somehow. I know it's old.
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Interesting exchange with Atom-Bot.
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It is hard for me to blame any Japanese for being in denial.
This situation is a bad dream for the world but
a fucking endless nightmare for Japan.
I wish them the best.

TPTB in Japan that allowed the children to be exposed and contaminated needlessly will be forever remembered and vilified for their callousness and criminal omissions of humanity.

Fukushima could have happened anywhere in the world. Japan is not to blame for that.

However, they are to blame for what has happened since__ especially the lack of protection for the children.

@Atom-bot.
I can't be certain of your motives and responses as you have shown a tendency to flip-flop on the information. I have tried to give you the benefit of the doubt because of the situation you are in. You have gleefully and continually defended the actions of Tepco and that leads me to believe that you do not have the best interests of your own people at heart.

If this is so, stay the fuck off my Fuku thread. You have your own.

I beg you to reconsider your stance and desist from this behavior.

Tepco and their shills are despicable cowards.
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@ Waterbug,

i do not need you and your #ing Fukuthread,
since i saw you shaking hands with the Shill from Perth
i lost any interest in you and your thread!

Yes, i have my own, because my thread is owned
by all of us and i would never think to kick the People out!

You are a Nazi-Shill like some other People here
and you totally forget to focus on facts,
you are, like many other People, a victim
of intellectual Incest!

This is sad but it is happen/ed all the Time!

Sometimes i am not easy to understand, this is true
but People should have enough guts to ask when they
don't understand it, we are adults and not childs
who just run away in fear!

And i never defended Tepco!

But i am more than surprised that they handle
the situation since 9 month without a further Explosiondance
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@ Waterbug,

i do not need you and your #ing Fukuthread,
since i saw you shaking hands with the Shill from Perth
i lost any interest in you and your thread!

Yes, i have my own, because my thread is owned
by all of us and i would never think to kick the People out!

You are a Nazi-Shill like some other People here
and you totally forget to focus on facts,
you are, like many other People, a victim
of intellectual Incest!

This is sad but it is happen/ed all the Time!

Sometimes i am not easy to understand, this is true
but People should have enough guts to ask when they
don't understand it, we are adults and not childs
who just run away in fear!

And i never defended Tepco!

But i am more than surprised that they handle
the situation since 9 month without a further Explosiondance
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


Intellectual incest, huh? I guess that's better than genocide.
Tell Tepco for me... Goober says, hey!
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s226
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Fukushima: No to nuclear power subsidies
Fukushima Prefecture will no longer apply for government subsidies for hosting nuclear power plants.

The Fukushima prefectural government concluded it will not apply for about three billion yen, or nearly 38-million dollars in subsides starting in fiscal 2012, which begins in April.

The prefectural government says it made the decision, as its reconstruction plan asks for the central government to scrap all reactors in Fukushima Prefecture.
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40 years estimated to scrap Fukushima plant
Japan's government and the operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant say it will take up to 40 years to decommission the plant's damaged reactors.

NHK has learned about a timetable drawn up by the industry ministry and Tokyo Electric Power Company, based on a report released earlier by the state's Atomic Energy Commission.

The new timetable includes a plan to begin removing used fuel rods from spent fuel pools at 4 reactor buildings within 2 years, starting with reactor 4. That's one year ahead of what the Commission called for in its report.
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40 years estimated to scrap Fukushima plant
Japan's government and the operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant say it will take up to 40 years to decommission the plant's damaged reactors.

NHK has learned about a timetable drawn up by the industry ministry and Tokyo Electric Power Company, based on a report released earlier by the state's Atomic Energy Commission.

The new timetable includes a plan to begin removing used fuel rods from spent fuel pools at 4 reactor buildings within 2 years, starting with reactor 4. That's one year ahead of what the Commission called for in its report.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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It is dumbfounding to realize that I will probably not live long enough to see this mess cleaned up. My kids may not, either. I am 55 years old.
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Same here... I'll be 6 feet under before they have sealed the place... but will probably live long enough to read about mutants and an "unexplainable" high cancer rate in Northern Japan...
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Same here... I'll be 6 feet under before they have sealed the place... but will probably live long enough to read about mutants and an "unexplainable" high cancer rate in Northern Japan...
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I hope I live to see those bastards go to jail for what they've done to Japan and the children of Japan. The children of Fukushima and Chiba will curse their names... if they live long enough.

Filling in blanks....


Fallout forensics hike radiation toll
Global data on Fukushima challenge Japanese estimates.


The disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in March released far more radiation than the Japanese government has claimed. So concludes a study that combines radioactivity data from across the globe to estimate the scale and fate of emissions from the shattered plant.

The study also suggests that, contrary to government claims, pools used to store spent nuclear fuel played a significant part in the release of the long-lived environmental contaminant caesium-137, which could have been prevented by prompt action. The analysis has been posted online for open peer review by the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics.

The new analysis also claims that the spent fuel being stored in the unit 4 pool emitted copious quantities of caesium-137. Japanese officials have maintained that virtually no radioactivity leaked from the pool. Yet Stohl's model clearly shows that dousing the pool with water caused the plant's caesium-137 emissions to drop markedly (see 'Radiation crisis'). The finding implies that much of the fallout could have been prevented by flooding the pool earlier.The Japanese authorities continue to maintain that the spent fuel was not a significant source of contamination, because the pool itself did not seem to suffer major damage. "I think the release from unit 4 is not important," says Masamichi Chino, a scientist with the Japanese Atomic Energy Authority in Ibaraki, who helped to develop the Japanese official estimate. But De Geer says the new analysis implicating the fuel pool "looks convincing".

The latest analysis also presents evidence that xenon-133 began to vent from Fukushima Daiichi immediately after the quake, and before the tsunami swamped the area. This implies that even without the devastating flood, the earthquake alone was sufficient to cause damage at the plant. [link to www.nature.com]
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