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TEPCO, the operator of the troubled Fukushima nuclear power station, believes that after the earthquake, a supply of radioactively-contaminated water going from a spent nuclear fuel pool to the tank at the No. 4 reactor stopped when the water flowed oppositely into the reactor containment vessel. TEPCO said the incident did not affect the cooling of the spent nuclear fuel pool.

[link to mdn.mainichi.jp]

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I think this is bogus unless it was lost in translation.

we are talking about re-circulated coolant between the SFP and a tank, returned through filters and scrubbers.

According to tepco, they think the water stopped and changed directions, flowing into the reactor vessel.

Why was the water so 'radioactive' if it was returning from the tank through filters and scrubbers?

Why is the reactor vessel part of the loop if the reactor vessel is cool and down for maintenance with the fuel assemblies in the SFP??

What physically could cause the water in a pressurized loop system to flow backwards?(oppositely) earthquake or no earthquake.

Did they lose power?


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Actually, the translation isn't so bad, but the original article is written in a confusing way and I think something isn't quite right with what is written.

What we need is a diagram of the cooling and filtering system to determine if maybe the tank is a part of separate loops. One loop for the containment vessel and the other loop for the spent fuel storage pool.

I may have studied that many months ago, but I don't remember now. Building 4 is the weird one because of that monster spent fuel storage pool. To be honest, I shifted my attention away from that building once they properly reinforced the spent fuel storage pool. We had a fear for many months that the pool would collapse.

By the way, that earthquake on January 1st was one really weird earthquake. Really weird! And I still don't like what happened that day. I have a bad feeling about that one, just like I had a bad feeeling about that one on March 9th last year.

I posted on another site's forum about my bad feeling soon after the March 9th quake. Of course, I had no idea that two days later we were going to get hit with the 9M. But when it started on March 11th at about 2:45 I knew immediately what was going on and that we were in big trouble. I told the folks around me at the time, total strangers, that tsunamis were going to be the number one trouble. That was like moments after the first big shock, then we had the 2nd and 3rd shocks that were not as strong, but plenty strong enough to shake the heck out of us and freak one poor lady out. Was all I could do to keep her from going into toal panic and loss of control.

Anyway, it was a bad day. And there are thousands with similar stories and so many thousands we wish we could hear their stories, but they're gone forever.

Mother Nature kickin' our butts on March 11th. And reminding us on New Year's Day, this year, she is still the boss.
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My heart goes out to you and all of Japan. My wife's cousin has been to Japan a few times. He is an graphic artist/animator. From his descriptions and photos/vids I appreciate the beauty he encountered there.

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Fukushima lays bare Japanese media's ties to top

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Throughout the Fukushima crisis, the mainstream media has relied heavily on pronuclear scientists' and Tepco's analyses of what was occurring. After the first hydrogen blast of March 12, the government's top spokesman, Yukio Edano, told a press conference: "Even though the reactor No. 1 building is damaged, the containment vessel is undamaged. ... On the contrary, the outside monitors show that the (radiation) dose rate is declining, so the cooling of the reactor is proceeding."

Any suggestion that the accident would reach Chernobyl level was, he said, "out of the question."

Author and nuclear critic Takashi Hirose noted afterward: "Most of the media believed this. It makes no logical sense to say, as Edano did, that the safety of the containment vessel could be determined by monitoring the radiation dose rate. All he did was repeat the lecture given him by Tepco."

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Teddy Jimbo, founder of the pioneering Internet broadcaster Video News Network.

Frustrated by the lack of information from around the plant, Jimbo took his camera and dosimeters into the 20-km zone on April 2 and uploaded a report on YouTube that scored almost 1 million views. He was the first Japanese reporter to present TV images from Futaba and other abandoned towns
"For freelance journalists, it's not hard to beat the big companies because you quickly learn where their line is," Jimbo said. "As a journalist I needed to go in and find out what was happening. Any real journalist would want to do that."
He later sold some of his footage to three of the big Japanese TV networks: NHK, NTV and TBS.

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Japan Journalist: Many police in Fukushima died from radiation -Policeman

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Has anyone seen anything on the drilling they were to do at Unit #2? I've been looking but haven't found anything.
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Has anyone seen anything on the drilling they were to do at Unit #2? I've been looking but haven't found anything.
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Nope.

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Press Release (Jan 08,2012)
Plant Status of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station (as of 3:00 pm, January 8)

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At around 1:00 pm on January 8, at circulating cooling system for spent
fuel pool of unit 4, we found water leakage from 4 points of cooling pipe
of air fin cooler (System B) when we tried to conduct scheduled switching
of air fin cooler (From System A to System B). Currently, we are
investigating the cause of the leakage. Leaked water is purified water
(pure water)* and is not contained radioactive materials. Now we secluded
the air fin cooler from the system to prevent the spread of water leakage.
In addition, the cooling of spent fuel pool has no problem because we are
currently using air fin cooler (System A) to cool spent fuel pool.
* Purified water (pure water): The water from Sakashita dam

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Beach discoveries fuel concern over arrival of Japanese tsunami debris


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bump
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2011: The Year Renewables Overtook Nuclear in the US
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Reactor Reax: Nuclear Industry Report
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Nuclear plant's external alerts OK
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The Federal Emergency Management Agency has notified nuclear regulators that it received "reasonable assurance" emergency systems outside Fort Calhoun Nuclear Station can respond to any problem at the reactor, despite damage from last summer's flooding.

Last year's unprecedented Missouri River flooding idled the plant and, among other things, closed roads and disabled warning sirens in its vicinity.

Jeff Hanson, a spokesman for the Omaha Public Power District, which owns the reactor, described FEMA's approval of OPPD's off-site emergency preparedness as a necessary step toward restarting the plant.

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Point Lepreau leaks concern nuclear commission
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The head of Canada's Nuclear Safety Commission calls two recent incidents at the Point Lepreau nuclear generating station "unsettling."

On Dec. 13, there was a radioactive spill. Up to six litres of heavy water splashed to the floor, forcing an evacuation of the reactor building and halt of operations.

Then, on Dec. 14, NB Power issued a news release, admitting there had been another type of spill three weeks earlier. About 23 barrels of water laced with the toxic chemical hydrazine was released into the Bay of Fundy.
Both incidents occurred as part of preparations for restarting the plant, which has been undergoing refurbishments for nearly four years.

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Well, I guess it's a good thing they refurbished the plant.

Unbelievable.

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Nuclear waste-free zones promoted
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n separate news releases, NAN and UOI trash a search by the Nuclear Waste Management Organization to find a community willing to host a disposal site.
“We have a mandate from the Creator to protect our lands and waters and have been doing so for thousands of years,” NAN Grand Chief Stan Beardy said.
“Nuclear waste is a poison that will damage our homelands.”
The search for a deep, underground storage site for the current inventory of fire-log shaped fuel bundles — enough to fill six hockey rinks up to the boards — is not limited to Northern Ontario, says the NWMO.
So far in Northwestern Ontario, Ear Falls, Ignace, Nipigon, Schreiber, Hornepayne and Wawa have expressed a willingness to at least consider the concept of storing the bundles.

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I nominate this man to be the new head of the nuclear regulatory commission.

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Nuclear submarine fire mystery deepens
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Environmental organisation Bellona reported the damaged Delta-IV class sub sailed from the Roslyakovo dry dock to Severodvinsk in Arkhangelsk Oblast via the Okol’naya base. Equipment at Okol’naya includes cranes to remove ballistic missiles.

The Russian Defence Ministry refused to confirm the Okol’naya route, maintaining there was no weaponry about ‘Yekaterinburg’.

Nevertheless, Bellona’s Alexander Nikitin, a former Russian submarine captain, claimed leaving any such arsenals aboard, including Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) or nuclear warheads, is common for short-term repairs.

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Article has photos of hole in sub.

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Xcel forced to activate emergency plan
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ST. PAUL — Minnesota’s most serious nuclear power plant emergency apparently posed no threat to the public and, in the end, was not all that serious.

The Thursday Prairie Island power plant incident amounted to spilling 522 gallons of chlorine bleach, but forced the state and Xcel Energy to activate a 29-point plan that included considering actions such as preparing to decontaminate the public and notifying school districts within 10 miles to have buses on standby in case evacuation was needed.

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US court jails Pak man for exporting nuclear materials
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IRAN CONFIRMS NUCLEAR ENRICHMENT START IN FORDOW SITE, SAYS ALL
WORK UNDER IAEA SURVEILLANCE - STATE TV

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

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Searching for what God is made of, nuclear physicist finds the color of quarks


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Searching for what God is made of, nuclear physicist finds the color of quarks


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Now a nuclear physicist at Argonne National Laboratory, Ms. Hafidi, 39, is getting closer to her goal. For the last 11 years, she has worked to advance the study of quantum chromodynamics, which describes how quarks—the most fundamental pieces of the universe—form protons, neutrons and other particles.

Her research, which earned her the 2011 Innovator Award from the Assn. for Women in Science, addresses the “color” of quarks, which essentially indicates how they are “charged.” She and her team of postdoctoral students use data derived from a particle accelerator at the Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Lab in Newport News, Va., which costs an estimated $500,000 an hour to operate.

Specifically, Ms. Hafidi seeks to capture the moment when quarks become free, or transparent. Adjusting the accelerator's speed and intensity, her team found conclusive evidence of an exotic, short-lived state in which quarks are so small they become invisible to other matter, enabling them to pass through a nuclear medium without interaction.


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$280M in Upgrades Planned at San Onofre Nuclear Plant
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S.Korea police investigating rumour of nuclear explosion in N. Korea
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As Fukushima Cleanup Begins,
Long-term Impacts are Weighed
The Japanese government is launching a large-scale cleanup of the fields, forests, and villages contaminated by the Fukushima nuclear disaster. But some experts caution that an overly aggressive remediation program could create a host of other environmental problems.
[link to e360.yale.edu]

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It took just a week for 2012 to become a very dangerous year


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On the eve of Pearl Harbor day 2011, a question was asked after the leader of the Peoples Republic of China made a significantly bellicose statement to all PLA forces especially the Peoples Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) .

President Hu of the Peoples Republic of China sounded "General Quarters" on the eve of Pearl Harbor Day in calling for the PLAN to make ready for combat. The US official response was a call for "transparency." Amazing spin by the Administration.

After all, how much more transparent does China have to be?
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Russian Foreign Ministry Comments on the Yekaterinburg Nuclear Submarine Incident
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Will lay permanent siege to plant if it goes critical: PMNAE
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Watch out for copper thieves, TVA says
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ATHENS — Officials at Browns Ferry Nuclear Plant and the Tennessee Valley Authority are asking residents who live near power substations to form neighborhood watches to keep an eye out for copper thieves.

TVA spokesman Ray Golden said copper thefts at substations have been a problem, but extra eyes could prevent both company losses and power outages.

“We thought, ‘Who better than the folks who live near these substations to keep an eye on them and to report suspicious activity?’ ” Golden said.

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That sounds great. Don't spend money on security.

I can see the headline.

Nuke plant goes critical after thieves steal power lines...

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Got up to my rad meter reading...

what the fuck...
2.39uSv/hr (1 min sampling) 253+ counts per minute

at 500 pm Downtown Vancouver Canada...

hope my meters fucked...

been mostly between 1.00 to 2.00 uSv/hr for the last hour or so...,100 to 250 ish counts per minute...

but if this holds true...

multiply by 24 hr and 365 days to get your yearly exposure levels...

yikes..

will retract if I can find a problem....
been monitoring since june... never seen it this high
usually .100 to .200 uSv/hr lows the last week...

massive spikes in the counts per min at times 20-30 counts at a time... hot particles???

something change???

or meter is fucked


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Gundersen Report

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Got up to my rad meter reading...

what the fuck...
2.39uSv/hr (1 min sampling) 253+ counts per minute

at 500 pm Downtown Vancouver Canada...

hope my meters fucked...

been mostly between 1.00 to 2.00 uSv/hr for the last hour or so...,100 to 250 ish counts per minute...

but if this holds true...

multiply by 24 hr and 365 days to get your yearly exposure levels...

yikes..

will retract if I can find a problem....
been monitoring since june... never seen it this high
usually .100 to .200 uSv/hr lows the last week...

massive spikes in the counts per min at times 20-30 counts at a time... hot particles???

something change???

or meter is fucked


Silver
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I just ran a quick check with my geiger. 3 Readings:
.07, .09, and .12 uSv/hr

Still within the normal readings I have been getting here.
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