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Radiation “attached” to face of Fukushima worker around Reactor No. 3 who was collecting debris
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Yes, the old "it's just attached to his face, no worries"
 Quoting: Southern OR


yep no worries... just near his mouth and nose and ears and eyes... no way can he breath any radiation and dust in... nup...

they talk about the dust, but there is radiation bouncing around every atom.....
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I read the article on the black dust earlier tonight. 295 microsieverts/hour
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The TEPCO cam really looks faked now. Haven't looked at it in awhile-what causes the outlines around the buildings and cranes?
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I rarely look at the Tepco cam anymore. I will check it out.
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North Korea vows to continue nuclear development
North Korea's new leadership has praised the military-first policy advocated by the late leader Kim Jong Il, and pledged to continue nuclear development.

The pledge came on the 70th anniversary of Kim's birth. Kim's son and successor, Kim Jong Un, reviewed a military parade in Pyongyang on Thursday to mark the event. The ceremony was held in front of the palace where Kim's body lies in state.

The state-run Korean Central News Agency ran a statement, saying North Korea had blasted a hole in the US nuclear umbrella by establishing a powerful nuclear deterrence.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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Yokosuka groups object to disaster debris burial
Residents in Yokosuka, near Tokyo, are objecting to a plan to bury incinerated disaster debris from eastern Japan at a site in their neighborhood.

Representatives of 10 community groups delivered a letter to the local governor on Friday, seeking a retraction of the disposal plan.

The community groups are concerned that wreckage from the disaster zone could be contaminated with radioactive fallout from the Fukushima nuclear accident.
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Bug: Completely off topic - but - the kids know where their next duty station will be, Whiteman AFB in Missouri. Do you know anything about the area?
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Missed this.

I don't know a lot. Spent some time in St. Louis and Hannibal. Hannibal is an interesting town. Sam Clemons grew up there. Started as a salt lick. Home of the mound indians. The mounds are still there. Railroad town. Was railhead for livestock.

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The TEPCO cam really looks faked now. Haven't looked at it in awhile-what causes the outlines around the buildings and cranes?
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I rarely look at the Tepco cam anymore. I will check it out.
 Quoting: Southern OR


Yeah. I don't look at it anymore. They are using split screen with filters. Hard to say what they are doing with it.

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U.S. nuclear plants similar to Fukushima spark concerns
[link to www.cnn.com]

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Arnie Gundersen, a former nuclear engineer and a leading critic of the Vermont Yankee plant, says the Japanese accident shows the Mark I containment system can't prevent a release of radioactivity in a meltdown.

In an October hearing before the NRC's Petition Review Board, he said the vents were a "Band-Aid fix" for the design that failed "not once, not twice, but three times" at Fukushima Daiichi.
"True wisdom means knowing when to modify something and knowing when to stop," said Gundersen, who leads a state commission set up to monitor the Vermont Yankee plant.

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CNN is citing Arnie.

They don't go into it, but what he is talking about is the test done 40 years ago on the vessel that showed that the containment cap bolts would stretch at pressures over 100psi, allowing containment gases to escape. This is what allowed the hydrogen gas to escape containment and build up inside the reactor buildings at Fuku, thereby causing the explosions.

Tepco said it was a failure to vent in time that caused the hydrogen build up.

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UK & France in major nuclear reactor deal
[link to djysrv.blogspot.com]

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Two French nuclear giants, EDF and Areva, and Rolls-Royce, the flagship nuclear firm in the UK, are signing deals worth {l}500 million ($791 million) to build new nuclear reactors in the UK. (EDF press release)

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Anglo-French nuke pact blesses 4th-gen reactors
UK wants to take ASTRID home

The UK is borrowing heavily on French nuclear energy know-how in a pact signed today. France and the UK will extend co-operation to R&D and training in several areas, but the most interesting is the commitment to develop 4th Generation (Gen IV) nuclear reactors on the French ASTRID prototype.
[link to www.theregister.co.uk]
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Mochizuki is saying the temp sensor is reading 200C.
Tepco is saying it is broken.

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FOIA document from March 13.

[link to enformable.com]

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BBC: Tokyo Highly Recommended for Honeymooners
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Fresh fish, Kobe beef... Fukushima does not exist in the minds of people at BBC; the cache was cleared long time ago, apparently.


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Washington Times Is Wrong on China and Nuclear Arms Control
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First, it claimed China may have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.

Based on discredited study.[/u]


Second, the Washington Times claims China “has never agreed to be part of any strategic nuclear framework”.

China acceded to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and was a full and active participant in the negotiation of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT]



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New docs show contamination was much higher than reported, but piles of data were secretly transmitted and analyzed by United States, Russia, China, and Japan
[link to enformable.com]

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New docs show contamination was much higher than reported, but piles of data were secretly transmitted and analyzed by United States, Russia, China, and Japan
[link to enformable.com]

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No surprise there.
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New docs show contamination was much higher than reported, but piles of data were secretly transmitted and analyzed by United States, Russia, China, and Japan
[link to enformable.com]

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No surprise there.
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Kinda justifies what we were saying on fuku 1 thread at the time. The blowback was almost over-whelming at times. I did not handle it well. I got really pissed off. I'm much calmer now. Raged out, mostly.

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New docs show contamination was much higher than reported, but piles of data were secretly transmitted and analyzed by United States, Russia, China, and Japan
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No surprise there.
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Kinda justifies what we were saying on fuku 1 thread at the time. The blowback was almost over-whelming at times. I did not handle it well. I got really pissed off. I'm much calmer now. Raged out, mostly.

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I can't believe how correct we all were on the #1 thread, and how quickly we learned about radionuclides. Not bad for a bunch of amateurs. I think we all went through the pissed off stage. I still get pissed but find I handle it better now days. I believe there should be some sort of criminal charge for hiding the data. Bioaccumulation will be the biggest issue, and it will take years to see the true damage.
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I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. ~Edward Everett Hale
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UK & France in major nuclear reactor deal
[link to djysrv.blogspot.com]

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Two French nuclear giants, EDF and Areva, and Rolls-Royce, the flagship nuclear firm in the UK, are signing deals worth {l}500 million ($791 million) to build new nuclear reactors in the UK. (EDF press release)

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Anglo-French nuke pact blesses 4th-gen reactors
UK wants to take ASTRID home

The UK is borrowing heavily on French nuclear energy know-how in a pact signed today. France and the UK will extend co-operation to R&D and training in several areas, but the most interesting is the commitment to develop 4th Generation (Gen IV) nuclear reactors on the French ASTRID prototype.
[link to www.theregister.co.uk]
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2 words come to mind: Spent Fuel. They can change the reactor design as much as they want but spent fuel is a huge issue that not one country has a plan for.
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I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. ~Edward Everett Hale
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Bug: Completely off topic - but - the kids know where their next duty station will be, Whiteman AFB in Missouri. Do you know anything about the area?
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Missed this.

I don't know a lot. Spent some time in St. Louis and Hannibal. Hannibal is an interesting town. Sam Clemons grew up there. Started as a salt lick. Home of the mound indians. The mounds are still there. Railroad town. Was railhead for livestock.

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The mounds sound interesting. My daughter loves old architecture and archeology. Might just be a good fit for her in that area. She also likes to rockhound and has cut some of her own gemstones. I guess we will be looking into what they have in the area for that.

Last Edited by Southern OR on 02/17/2012 11:23 PM
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Fukushima nuke disaster refugees may get lump-sum compensation payments
[link to mdn.mainichi.jp]

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The Dispute Reconciliation Committee for Nuclear Damage Compensation proposed the move after concluding that the current multi-installment payment system may prevent residents from restarting their lives in other parts of Japan as they wait to return home.

Furthermore, experts fear that even five years from now radiation doses within the no-go zones may not have decreased to the government-mandated maximum of 20 millisieverts per year, casting uncertainty on the futures of those hoping to return. At present, radiation doses in the zones stand at 50 millisieverts per year or more.

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Fall-out in Fukushima spiked up 39 times much
[link to fukushima-diary.com]

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from 9:00 2/15 to 9:00 2/16.
Cesium 134 : 150 (↑3614%)
Cesium 137 : 199 (↑4120%)

MEXT has not given an explanation why.

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Temperature drops to 2°C from 220°C at Reactor No. 2 — Only since decrease is gauge failure indicated on Tepco data
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March 15th, 2011 Deflect any questions about scary numbers with the “we’ll review for scientific validity”
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The gentleman has submitted a petition; the NRC will review it to determine if it has any scientific validity. The NRC believes spent fuel pools are safe, even in cases of extended
blackouts, given the very low heat levels involved and the ease with which the pools can be refilled. In some cases analysis has shown the spent fuel can be safely air-cooled.

[[deflect any questions about scary numbers with the "we'll review for scientific validity"]]
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Two French nuclear giants, EDF and Areva, and Rolls-Royce, the flagship nuclear firm in the UK, are signing deals worth {l}500 million ($791 million) to build new nuclear reactors in the UK. (EDF press release)

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Anglo-French nuke pact blesses 4th-gen reactors
UK wants to take ASTRID home

The UK is borrowing heavily on French nuclear energy know-how in a pact signed today. France and the UK will extend co-operation to R&D and training in several areas, but the most interesting is the commitment to develop 4th Generation (Gen IV) nuclear reactors on the French ASTRID prototype.
[link to www.theregister.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10410912


2 words come to mind: Spent Fuel. They can change the reactor design as much as they want but spent fuel is a huge issue that not one country has a plan for.
 Quoting: Southern OR


Spent fuel is one of the problems. These guys are idiots and owned. They should be working on THORIUM LFTR.

Frater

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Former nuclear worker sues Japan gov’t over heart attack — Had been suffering nose bleeds and fatigue
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Two French nuclear giants, EDF and Areva, and Rolls-Royce, the flagship nuclear firm in the UK, are signing deals worth {l}500 million ($791 million) to build new nuclear reactors in the UK. (EDF press release)

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Anglo-French nuke pact blesses 4th-gen reactors
UK wants to take ASTRID home

The UK is borrowing heavily on French nuclear energy know-how in a pact signed today. France and the UK will extend co-operation to R&D and training in several areas, but the most interesting is the commitment to develop 4th Generation (Gen IV) nuclear reactors on the French ASTRID prototype.
[link to www.theregister.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10410912


2 words come to mind: Spent Fuel. They can change the reactor design as much as they want but spent fuel is a huge issue that not one country has a plan for.
 Quoting: Southern OR


Spent fuel is one of the problems. These guys are idiots and owned. They should be working on THORIUM LFTR.

Frater
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They should be, but...
Profit motive as well as 'other' applications.

They have ignored the spent fuel disposal/storage problem since the beginning. The original 'wisdom' was that new tech somewhere down the line would be invented to take care of the problem.

Hasn't happened...

Spent 5 bil. on 'the tunnel to nowhere'[yucca mt] before doing a complete assessment of viability. Later study revealed eq faults. Protested vigorously by Nev. Discarded by prez O.

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NOAA: No radiation levels that would “directly” cause seal deaths, Fukushima not a “primary factor” — AP misreports this as “scientists find no radiation” — Cesium levels not released
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It appears the muscles tissue has yet to be checked for cesium.

Yet the AP headline reads: Scientists find no radiation in Alaska’s sick ringed seals

At least Reuters interpreted NOAA’s information correctly in its headline: Radiation ruled out, for now, as cause of Alaska seal deaths

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An Act of Murder?

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Now, fast-forward to January 2012, ten months after the quake. Namie Town’s Mayor Baba has learned that vital information that could have changed the fate of thousands of his town residents (the data contained in the SPEEDI map) had been purposely witheld. Apologizing for the “delay”, Reconstruction Minister Goshi Hosono explains that the central government had ”feared it might trigger panic. ” Ummmm…maybe a bit of panic had actually been in order, and certainly a measure of haste would have limited residents’ exposure to the high radiation levels in Namie following the quake and nuclear explosions. Certainly, if the mayors of both Iitate and Namie had realized the scope of the radioactive fallout, they would have acted differently, evacuating residents to areas well beyond the danger zone and preventing later multiple moves.

Mayor Baba of Namie recently spoke out in an Australian news broadcast, regretting that, “Because we had no information we were unwittingly evacuating to an area where the radiation level was high, so I’m very worried about the people’s health. I feel pain in my heart but also rage over the poor actions of the government.” Yes, his word choice was “rage”. And it’s understandable rage at that. One never hears such extreme language in Japan (at least I personally do not), and his concluding statement is even more startling from the Japanese point of view. The Mayor himself realizes he’s breaking a social taboo by beginning it with an apology: “It’s not nice language, but I still think it was an act of murder. What were they thinking when it came to the people’s dignity and lives?” The answer is, tragically, that the central government was not thinking at all about either dignity or life, and Fukushima residents have every right to feel betrayed.

In fact, so do residents of Tokyo, and my own Kanagawa Prefecture. While we assumed ourselves well out of harm’s way, data generated by the government that we never saw clearly showed otherwise. Specifically, it showed that radiation levels on March 15th were alarmingly high, not just in Tohoku, but in Tokyo and Kanagawa as well.
[link to notesfromhadano.wordpress.com]

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8 of 15 quakes in the last 7 days on fault east of Tokyo, close to Mito, halfway between Fuku and Tokyo.

1806 total since March 11th. 78 eqs on March 11, 2011.
[link to www.japanquakemap.com]

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interactive video timeline map
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