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*** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links

 
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I just tried to post something...doesn't show? Strange
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In a nutshell, Physics Forum has deleted a thread about the explosion at #3. Still shows on google cache though.
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The thread has been placed in moderation pending cleanup, i.e., removal of misinformation and nonsense, which goes back nearly two weeks.
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Ah, the cleansing continues. Wonder who decides what is 'misinformation' and what is the criteria?
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Ya, it was strange...absolutely could not link to PF or to the google cache... I would hit post then nothing. Sorry, no link since it won't post.
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Man, I wish we had a backup copy of thread #1. Lots of good info there.
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Radioactivity in the Ocean:
Diluted, But Far from Harmless
With contaminated water from Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear complex continuing to pour into the Pacific, scientists are concerned about how that radioactivity might affect marine life. Although the ocean’s capacity to dilute radiation is huge, signs are that nuclear isotopes are already moving up the local food chain. Given that the Fukushima nuclear power plant is on the ocean, and with leaks and runoff directly to the ocean, the impacts on the ocean will exceed those of Chernobyl, which was hundreds of miles from any sea,”...
[link to e360.yale.edu]

Yep...Yale. Finally something that people might pay attention to!

Last Edited by Southern OR on 12/28/2011 11:46 PM
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i just got deleted after reporting on recriticality at number 2 reactor

i can't substantiate it as fact because i lost my post and evidence

i will try and find it

i did see it with my own eyes tho....
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i just got deleted after reporting on recriticality at number 2 reactor

i can't substantiate it as fact because i lost my post and evidence

i will try and find it

i did see it with my own eyes tho....
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Your thread was deleted, or you were? The only person I know of that has ever been deleted from his own thread was The Blood Type Guy...LOL
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i just got deleted after reporting on recriticality at number 2 reactor

i can't substantiate it as fact because i lost my post and evidence

i will try and find it

i did see it with my own eyes tho....
 Quoting: citizenperth


Your thread was deleted, or you were? The only person I know of that has ever been deleted from his own thread was The Blood Type Guy...LOL
 Quoting: Southern OR


no it was my blog deleted
reposted after i grabbed it off my own server...
strange tho... didn't think i was that important..

pricks, wasted an hour...

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Fukushima plant's backup generator failed in 1991
The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant failed to take preventive measures after a backup generator was inundated by a leaking pipe 20 years ago.

Former employees of the Tokyo Electric Power Company told NHK that the problem occurred in October 1991.

They said water leaked from a pipe and entered the basement of the Number 1 reactor's turbine building. This caused the failure of one of the two backup generators.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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Govt requests sites for waste soil storage
The government has officially requested permission to temporarily store radioactive waste soil in 8 municipalities around the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

Environment Minister Goshi Hosono on Wednesday met governor Yuhei Sato of Fukushima Prefecture and the mayors of 8 districts of Futaba County.

Hosono said Futaba County was chosen because areas exposed to over 100 millisieverts of radiation per year are concentrated there. He said this makes ordinary decontamination methods impractical.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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Fukushima plant's backup generator failed in 1991
The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant failed to take preventive measures after a backup generator was inundated by a leaking pipe 20 years ago.

Former employees of the Tokyo Electric Power Company told NHK that the problem occurred in October 1991.

They said water leaked from a pipe and entered the basement of the Number 1 reactor's turbine building. This caused the failure of one of the two backup generators.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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I read this as well. You'd think that in 20 years they would have figured out it could be a problem and found another way.
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Govt requests sites for waste soil storage
The government has officially requested permission to temporarily store radioactive waste soil in 8 municipalities around the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

Environment Minister Goshi Hosono on Wednesday met governor Yuhei Sato of Fukushima Prefecture and the mayors of 8 districts of Futaba County.

Hosono said Futaba County was chosen because areas exposed to over 100 millisieverts of radiation per year are concentrated there. He said this makes ordinary decontamination methods impractical.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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thankyou for your posts

i think they have found their "long term repository"

sadly.. now lets move the people to safety.....

let's stop fucking around (and i swear rarely)

add: i AM fucking angry.......

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i just got deleted after reporting on recriticality at number 2 reactor

i can't substantiate it as fact because i lost my post and evidence

i will try and find it

i did see it with my own eyes tho....
 Quoting: citizenperth


Your thread was deleted, or you were? The only person I know of that has ever been deleted from his own thread was The Blood Type Guy...LOL
 Quoting: Southern OR


no it was my blog deleted
reposted after i grabbed it off my own server...
strange tho... didn't think i was that important..

pricks, wasted an hour...
 Quoting: citizenperth


I bet that's about how I felt when the Physics Forum info wouldn't post. I couldn't believe it. No "don't link to this" just didn't post at all.
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Radioactivity in the Ocean:
Diluted, But Far from Harmless
With contaminated water from Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear complex continuing to pour into the Pacific, scientists are concerned about how that radioactivity might affect marine life. Although the ocean’s capacity to dilute radiation is huge, signs are that nuclear isotopes are already moving up the local food chain. Given that the Fukushima nuclear power plant is on the ocean, and with leaks and runoff directly to the ocean, the impacts on the ocean will exceed those of Chernobyl, which was hundreds of miles from any sea,”...
[link to e360.yale.edu]

Yep...Yale. Finally something that people might pay attention to!
 Quoting: Southern OR


I put this same info on CP's current thread. Not one person made an effort to debunk it. Interesting how the info is received when it's Ivy League.
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[link to docs.google.com (secure)]

Something to read in your spare time ;) I can't copy from this article and the link is weird, maybe it's just me tonight. Copy and paste into your browser if you want to read.

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[link to docs.google.com (secure)]

Something to read in your spare time ;) I can't copy from this article and the link is weird, maybe it's just me tonight. Copy and paste into your browser if you want to read.
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It's gone.
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Documentary "Survivng Japan": An American Inside the 2011 Fukushima nuclear crisis tells all,critcal look at how Japanese Gov Covered up Disaster


The documentary shows the humanitarian and aid crisis that faced the people in the wake of both natural and nuclear disaster. It features true stories from those affected by the disaster, the government and even TEPCO. It highlights the struggle in dealing with: The Tsunami clean-up, lack of Government response to the disaster, radiation plus the future of nuclear power after the accident, a possible Cover-up of the Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear disaster.


[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
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[link to docs.google.com (secure)]

Something to read in your spare time ;) I can't copy from this article and the link is weird, maybe it's just me tonight. Copy and paste into your browser if you want to read.
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It's gone.
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Man, scrubbers are out in full force again.
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[link to docs.google.com (secure)]

Something to read in your spare time ;) I can't copy from this article and the link is weird, maybe it's just me tonight. Copy and paste into your browser if you want to read.
 Quoting: Southern OR


It's gone.
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Man, scrubbers are out in full force again.
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there's something in the wind... recriticality at number 2
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[link to docs.google.com (secure)]

Something to read in your spare time ;) I can't copy from this article and the link is weird, maybe it's just me tonight. Copy and paste into your browser if you want to read.
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It's gone.
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It was a document from China about what and how fukushima could affect them. Didn't last long though....
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Thread: The beginnings of the death of Japan as a habitable nation.... recriticality again at fuku...


and if it was from china.. no doubt it didn't last long... i'll check around....
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Thread: The beginnings of the death of Japan as a habitable nation.... recriticality again at fuku...


and if it was from china.. no doubt it didn't last long... i'll check around....
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World Meteorological Organization

Summary Report of RSMC Beijing on Fukushima Nuclear
Accident Emergency Response

I still can view it in my history/cache.
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Thread: The beginnings of the death of Japan as a habitable nation.... recriticality again at fuku...


and if it was from china.. no doubt it didn't last long... i'll check around....
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World Meteorological Organization

Summary Report of RSMC Beijing on Fukushima Nuclear
Accident Emergency Response

I still can view it in my history/cache.
 Quoting: Southern OR


can you save and re-post for us then?


btw check this shit out...
[link to fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com]

nice cam shots from today... crane in front to behind of a building.... someone felled asleep... GRIN
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Thread: The beginnings of the death of Japan as a habitable nation.... recriticality again at fuku...


and if it was from china.. no doubt it didn't last long... i'll check around....
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World Meteorological Organization

Summary Report of RSMC Beijing on Fukushima Nuclear
Accident Emergency Response

I still can view it in my history/cache.
 Quoting: Southern OR


can you save and re-post for us then?


btw check this shit out...
[link to fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com]

nice cam shots from today... crane in front to behind of a building.... someone felled asleep... GRIN
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I was able to save it as a word doc. Message me your email and I will forward it to you.
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[link to docs.google.com (secure)]
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got it.. managed to pin it to my blog... ty windows 7... for what it's worth .....

the cam shots are mind boggling......

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here's number 3 so far...
(click to enlarge)

[link to fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com]

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got it.. managed to pin it to my blog... ty windows 7... for what it's worth .....

the cam shots are mind boggling......
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I took a look at that, strange. It's a ghost crane!
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got it.. managed to pin it to my blog... ty windows 7... for what it's worth .....

the cam shots are mind boggling......
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I took a look at that, strange. It's a ghost crane!
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exactly... needs a thread of its own....
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Experts discount claims of U.S. deaths from Japan radiation

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Boils down to who you believe.


Just to clarify:

The study doesn't say the deaths were absolutely caused by radiation from Japan; it says they are linked to it.

Big difference.

The effect of radiation exposure on foetus, infants and youths is devastating because their cells are dividing rapidly. Older people will show little to no ill effects from the same exposure. Look it up.




As for the authors....


Would you accept an endorsement from Patch Adams?

[link to www.radiation.org]

or

(snip)
The CDC issues weekly reports on numbers of deaths for 122 U.S. cities with a population over 100,000, or about 25-30 percent of the U.S. In the 14 weeks after Fukushima fallout arrived in the U.S. (March 20 to June 25), deaths reported to the CDC rose 4.46 percent from the same period in 2010, compared to just 2.34 percent in the 14 weeks prior. Estimated excess deaths during this period for the entire U.S. is about 14,000.

[link to www.radiation.org]

or

Dr. Kristin Shrader-Frechette has been a long time supporter of RPHP. She is a Professor of Philosophy and Concurrent Professor of Biological Sciences at Notre Dame University, and the author of 380 articles and 15 books. An expert in physics and mathematics, and is director of the Center for Environmental Justice and Children's Health at Notre Dame.

She recently said about RPHP

For years, I have used several of your articles and one of your books in my classes, and I cite you (tons of times) in my new book Nuclear Power and Climate Change which Oxford will soon publish - in 2010 or 2011. You have done magnificent work, and citizens everywhere are in your debt.

[link to www.radiation.org]

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Experts discount claims of U.S. deaths from Japan radiation

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Boils down to who you believe.


Just to clarify:

The study doesn't say the deaths were absolutely caused by radiation from Japan; it says they are linked to it.

Big difference.

The effect of radiation exposure on foetus, infants and youths is devastating because their cells are dividing rapidly. Older people will show little to no ill effects from the same exposure. Look it up.




As for the authors....


Would you accept an endorsement from Patch Adams?

[link to www.radiation.org]

or

(snip)
The CDC issues weekly reports on numbers of deaths for 122 U.S. cities with a population over 100,000, or about 25-30 percent of the U.S. In the 14 weeks after Fukushima fallout arrived in the U.S. (March 20 to June 25), deaths reported to the CDC rose 4.46 percent from the same period in 2010, compared to just 2.34 percent in the 14 weeks prior. Estimated excess deaths during this period for the entire U.S. is about 14,000.

[link to www.radiation.org]

or

Dr. Kristin Shrader-Frechette has been a long time supporter of RPHP. She is a Professor of Philosophy and Concurrent Professor of Biological Sciences at Notre Dame University, and the author of 380 articles and 15 books. An expert in physics and mathematics, and is director of the Center for Environmental Justice and Children's Health at Notre Dame.

She recently said about RPHP

For years, I have used several of your articles and one of your books in my classes, and I cite you (tons of times) in my new book Nuclear Power and Climate Change which Oxford will soon publish - in 2010 or 2011. You have done magnificent work, and citizens everywhere are in your debt.

[link to www.radiation.org]

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discernment is the key to any logical evaluation.

we are evidencing the most profound event in our history thus far recorded

for those that discredit this monumental and continuing catastophe need to realise the full impact that the continued release of man made isotopes will have on mankide and the earth as a whole....

people that debunk this catastrophy are foolish....

thankyou bug for being out there
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