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*** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and links

 
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we are so screwed
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You said so already!

Nitrogen injection into damaged Fukushima reactors halts for over 2 hrs
The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant said Wednesday that the injection of nitrogen gas into three crippled reactors ceased for over 2 hours, although it detected no abnormalities that could raise fears of a hydrogen explosion.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said the interruption occurred possibly because a filter of the supply device was clogged by dust as a result of strong winds seen from Tuesday evening.

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04/04/2012 10:20 AM
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what's this about liquid nitrogen?
i missed that.
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04/04/2012 10:24 AM
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what's this about liquid nitrogen?
i missed that.
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if they are still using liquid nitrogen,
i believe it is sure and certain proof that
they are using it to cool the corium.

(liquid nitrogen could also be used to avert a
hydrogen explosion (in an inclosed building), but that's
unlikely for obvious reasons.)
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what's this about liquid nitrogen?
i missed that.
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if they are still using liquid nitrogen,
i believe it is sure and certain proof that
they are using it to cool the corium.

(liquid nitrogen could also be used to avert a
hydrogen explosion (in an inclosed building), but that's
unlikely for obvious reasons.)
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bump
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bump
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i don't suppose anyone in the Nuclear Industry knows
what the status of the corium and liquid nitrogen is
at Fukushima, would they?

no?...

i didn't think so.
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04/04/2012 02:02 PM
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i don't suppose anyone in the Nuclear Industry knows
what the status of the corium and liquid nitrogen is
at Fukushima, would they?

no?...

i didn't think so.
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could somebody please go over to the Physics Forum and
see what you can get out of those meat-heads.
i'm tired of fooling with them.
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i don't suppose anyone in the Nuclear Industry knows
what the status of the corium and liquid nitrogen is
at Fukushima, would they?

no?...

i didn't think so.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


could somebody please go over to the Physics Forum and
see what you can get out of those meat-heads.
i'm tired of fooling with them.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


I read that forum from time to time. Most of that stuff is over my head. I think the biggest problems are the unknown variables. Pretty hard to calculate when the true numbers and locations are not known as fact.
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what's this about liquid nitrogen?
i missed that.
 Quoting: there ain't no God


if they are still using liquid nitrogen,
i believe it is sure and certain proof that
they are using it to cool the corium.

(liquid nitrogen could also be used to avert a
hydrogen explosion (in an inclosed building), but that's
unlikely for obvious reasons.)
 Quoting: there ain't no God

bump
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Food over new limit for radioactive cesium
Following the introduction of new safety regulations in Japan, several types of food have been found to contain radioactive cesium above the legal limit.

Stricter health standards for staple foods such as vegetables and rice were introduced on Sunday. Permissible levels of radioactivity were reduced from 500 to 100 becquerels per kilogram.

Health ministry officials said bamboo shoots harvested in the Kisarazu and Ichihara regions east of Tokyo were contaminated with 120 and 110 becquerels of radioactive Cesium per kilogram respectively.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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Food over new limit for radioactive cesium
Following the introduction of new safety regulations in Japan, several types of food have been found to contain radioactive cesium above the legal limit.

Stricter health standards for staple foods such as vegetables and rice were introduced on Sunday. Permissible levels of radioactivity were reduced from 500 to 100 becquerels per kilogram.

Health ministry officials said bamboo shoots harvested in the Kisarazu and Ichihara regions east of Tokyo were contaminated with 120 and 110 becquerels of radioactive Cesium per kilogram respectively.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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radioactive Cesium and Iodine only have a half-life
of 10 days, or so. which means that all of the corium
at Fukushima has to still be boiling up a storm with vapors
carrying the Cesium and Iodine into the wind currents...
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Hirano eyes Fukushima 'buffer zone'

The Yomiuri Shimbun

Tatsuo Hirano, state minister for reconstruction from the Great East Japan Earthquake, has suggested an uninhabited buffer zone under state control be created around the crippled fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, government sources said.

Hirano made the proposal--which he stressed was only his private idea and did not represent government policy--when he met with fukushima Gov. Yuhei Sato on Tuesday at the Reconstruction Agency in Tokyo. Sato seems to have declined to respond, according to the sources.
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Food over new limit for radioactive cesium
Following the introduction of new safety regulations in Japan, several types of food have been found to contain radioactive cesium above the legal limit.

Stricter health standards for staple foods such as vegetables and rice were introduced on Sunday. Permissible levels of radioactivity were reduced from 500 to 100 becquerels per kilogram.

Health ministry officials said bamboo shoots harvested in the Kisarazu and Ichihara regions east of Tokyo were contaminated with 120 and 110 becquerels of radioactive Cesium per kilogram respectively.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11432405


radioactive Cesium and Iodine only have a half-life
of 10 days, or so. which means that all of the corium
at Fukushima has to still be boiling up a storm with vapors
carrying the Cesium and Iodine into the wind currents...
 Quoting: there ain't no God


Cs-137 has a half-life of about 30 years...
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Food over new limit for radioactive cesium
Following the introduction of new safety regulations in Japan, several types of food have been found to contain radioactive cesium above the legal limit.

Stricter health standards for staple foods such as vegetables and rice were introduced on Sunday. Permissible levels of radioactivity were reduced from 500 to 100 becquerels per kilogram.

Health ministry officials said bamboo shoots harvested in the Kisarazu and Ichihara regions east of Tokyo were contaminated with 120 and 110 becquerels of radioactive Cesium per kilogram respectively.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11432405


radioactive Cesium and Iodine only have a half-life
of 10 days, or so. which means that all of the corium
at Fukushima has to still be boiling up a storm with vapors
carrying the Cesium and Iodine into the wind currents...
 Quoting: there ain't no God


Cs-137 has a half-life of about 30 years...
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11432405


yeah, now see that is the point... they gambled on the reporting of only the shortest lived isotopes in order to circle the wagons.

they report on nothing of the longer lived ie: more dangerous elements.

americurium, for instance, has been found outside the 20 exclusion zone.

and the lie and myth is that you cannot detect plutonium.... yes you can, and it is dead set easy with the right equipment....

sigh*
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Govt. discussing new nuclear plant safety standard
Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda and 3 cabinet ministers are discussing new nuclear safety standards in connection with a possible restart of 2 reactors on the Sea of Japan coast.

Noda began a meeting on Thursday night with Chief Cabinet Secretary Osamu Fujimura, Nuclear Crisis Minister Goshi Hosono and economy minister Yukio Edano.

In a similar meeting on Tuesday, Noda told Edano to draft new safety standards for reactors 3 and 4 of the nuclear plant at Oi in Fukui Prefecture. They are among 4 reactors suspended for regular inspections at the plant, run by Kansai Electric Power Company.
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Govt to seek local accord for restarting reactors
The Japanese government intends to explain new nuclear safety standards to a local community hosting 2 suspended nuclear reactors so as to obtain support for restarting them.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Osamu Fujimura was referring to 2 reactors in Fukui Prefecture that are suspended for regular inspections.

Fujimura said that in restarting reactors after regular inspections it is not required by law to obtain consent from local communities. But he said that if the reactors in Oi, Fukui Prefecture, are to be restarted, the government will explain to the local community the new nuclear safety standards it is preparing after last year's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant accident.
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Farmers to be allowed to keep survived livestock

Japan's government is partially reversing an order to slaughter all livestock within 20 kilometer radius of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

Some farmers will now be allowed to spare animals that survived in the no-entry zone, on condition that they are not shipped.

The government previously ordered animals in the zone to be slaughtered with the consent of farmers. But, some municipalities are feeding about 700 cattle after their owners refused the slaughter order.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]

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Radioactive water flows into sea from crippled Fukushima plant
About 12 tons of water contaminated with radioactive strontium leaked from a water treatment pipe at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Thursday, adding that a large portion probably flowed into the Pacific Ocean.
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Radioactive water from Fukushima power plant may have flowed into the Pacific Ocean
April 05, 2012
8:07PM

ABOUT 12 tonnes of radioactive water has leaked at Japan's crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, with the facility's operator saying some may have flowed into the Pacific Ocean.
Tokyo Electric Power Company said the leak was found early today from a pipe attached to a temporary decontamination system.
The water had already gone through part of the cleansing process.
After the water is used to cool the reactors it contains significant amounts of radioactive substances.
It is then put into the water-processing facility so it can be recycled for use as coolant.
"Our officials confirmed that cooling water leaked at a joint in the pipes," a TEPCO spokesman said, adding "it is possible that part of the water may have flowed outside the facility and poured into the ocean."
The leak has been plugged and the utility was investigating the cause of the accident and how much, if any, water flowed into the Pacific, the spokesman said.
The accident was the latest of several leaks of radioactive water at the troubled plant, undermining the government's claim made in December that the shuttered Fukushima reactors were now under control.
In one incident last month, about 120 tonnes of radioactive water leaked at the plant's water decontamination system and about 80 litres seeped into the ocean, according to TEPCO.
The plant about 220km northeast of Tokyo was crippled by meltdowns and explosions caused by Japan's massive earthquake and tsunami in March last year.
Radiation was scattered over a large area and made its way into the sea, air and food chain in the weeks and months after the disaster.
Tens of thousands of people were evacuated from their homes around the plant and swathes of this zone remain badly polluted.
The clean-up is proceeding slowly, amid warnings that some towns could be uninhabitable for three decades.

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Strontium at Fukushima plant flows into sea
Tokyo Electric Power Company says more radioactive wastewater has leaked from its Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant and flowed into the sea. The water contained high levels of strontium.

Workers at the plant discovered water leaking from a pipe connected to a wastewater tank, at around 2:00 AM on Thursday.

Workers shut valves, and the flow stopped about half an hour later.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]

Video at link
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Strontium at Fukushima plant flows into sea
Tokyo Electric Power Company says more radioactive wastewater has leaked from its Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant and flowed into the sea. The water contained high levels of strontium.

Workers at the plant discovered water leaking from a pipe connected to a wastewater tank, at around 2:00 AM on Thursday.

Workers shut valves, and the flow stopped about half an hour later.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]

Video at link
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not surprising since the basements are full, and leaking into the ground water.... ex-sfk used to keep the millimeter line count on his blog.

keep pouring water into a bucket and what do you get.....
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Farmers to be allowed to keep survived livestock

Japan's government is partially reversing an order to slaughter all livestock within 20 kilometer radius of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

Some farmers will now be allowed to spare animals that survived in the no-entry zone, on condition that they are not shipped.

The government previously ordered animals in the zone to be slaughtered with the consent of farmers. But, some municipalities are feeding about 700 cattle after their owners refused the slaughter order.
[link to www3.nhk.or.jp]

Beefs glowing in the dark...
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i suppose if they don't slaughter them and keep them like pets that would be fine... i can see their issue if it is to keep sane about their losses..... F*** nuclear power......
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Govt. approves new nuclear plant safety standards
Japan's government has adopted new safety standards for nuclear power plants as a step toward restarting 2 reactors supplying power to western Japan.

Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda and 3 ministers approved the standards on Friday in their third meeting on the Ohi plant in Fukui Prefecture.
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No-return zone around Fukushima plant proposed
Japan's reconstruction minister has proposed designating an indefinite off-limits zone around the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

Tatsuo Hirano told reporters on Friday that the zone would be within the context of local reconstruction plans for the next 10 or 20 years.

Hirano said the zone would probably include the parts of the towns of Futaba and Okuma, which host the plant. He added that the towns' mayors are responding positively to the proposal.
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Fukushima schools see 70% drop in new pupils
New enrollment at schools affected by the Fukushima nuclear disaster has dropped nearly 70 percent.

54 public elementary and junior high schools in the prefecture were forced to shut down or relocate after the nuclear plant accident in March last year.

12 of the schools remain closed for the school year that began on April 1st. The other 42 are holding classes in rented space, and welcomed 763 new students this year. The figure is down almost 70 percent from 2010.
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Possible Fukushima Leak Renews Concerns About Plant's Stability
TOKYO (Dow Jones)--Water containing radioactive substances may have leaked into the ocean from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, the plant operator said Thursday, the latest example of continued problems at the stricken plant more than three months after the government declared conditions there stabilized.

The leakage occurred at a pipeline carrying concentrated radioactive water from a desalination device to a storage tank early Thursday, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501.TO) said in a press release. The leak was contained after 30 minutes when valves were closed.

The company estimates roughly 12 tons of contaminated water may have escaped into the ocean. High levels of cesium 134 and 137 were confirmed at the point of the leak roughly 300 meters from the ocean, but no detectable amounts of radioactive contamination have been found in the sea water.

The company will further investigate the possible spread of contamination and its potential impact in the ocean, including the existence of beta radiation that could contain harmful strontium, company spokesman Yoshikazu Nagai said.
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Lone farmer in no-go zone sticks to defiant existence
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As the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster unfolded a year ago in the wake of a massive tsunami, scientists in Houston and New York were quietly beginning to test a new compound that may treat radiation sickness.

Their work, published this week in the Journal of Clinical Investigation, shows promise for treating the effects of radiation exposure, which can kill by destroying the body's gut.
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