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How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1257444 United States 06/21/2011 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning Items Needed ------------ Two Box Fans - preferably Lasko Premium Fan Model 3723 with Wind Ring System grill. Instructions ------------ 1. Close all windows in the house except for a 2nd floor window. 2. Put box fan in 2nd floor window of a room, facing outwards. Put something between the sides of the fan and the sides of the window to keep outside air from coming back in in - plastic and duct tape or large bath towels. 3. Keep door to room open. 4. Open all stairwell doors leading to the 2nd floor and the basement. 5. Place 2nd box fan near the opening of the stairwell leading to basement. 6. Turn 2nd floor box fan on High. 7. Turn fan at basement stairwell on High. 8. Hot air and humidity is sucked out of the house by 2nd floor fan. 9. Cold air from basement is circulated onto first floor and up to 2nd floor by fan near basement stairwell. 10. House cools down considerably. Temperature Difference ----------------------- On a 100 degree day, I can get my house down to 80 degrees. On a 90 degree day, I can get my house down to near 70 degrees. When I walk into the house, I definitely get a chill and goosebumps from the temperature difference. Power Usage ----------- At most with the two fans, I use about 250 Watts of power. The smallest window air conditioner, about 5000 BTU, uses 500 Watts and only cools off about half of the house. Safety Tips ----------- When you use the fans, be sure to keep the motors, grills and blades clean and free of dust. Most fires get started because people are too lazy to clean their fans. Most modern fans now have safety fuses to prevent fires. Keep the cords away from anything flammable and plug them directly into a nearby outlet if possible. If you have to use an extension cord, use a heavy duty cord that are used for power tools. They're usually orange in color.

Anonymous Coward User ID: 1428380 United States 06/21/2011 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning On a 100 degree day, I can get my house down to 80 degrees. On a 90 degree day, I can get my house down to near 70 degrees. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257444
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1257444 United States 06/21/2011 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning On a 100 degree day, I can get my house down to 80 degrees. On a 90 degree day, I can get my house down to near 70 degrees. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257444 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428380 I'm doing it right now Mr. B.S. Flag. Sure, you can waste your money on expensive air conditioning while I simply use two box fans and have plenty of extra money to spend on other things. Or maybe you work for the power company or an air conditioner company and this instruction manual is cutting into your bottom line.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1428380 United States 06/21/2011 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning On a 100 degree day, I can get my house down to 80 degrees. On a 90 degree day, I can get my house down to near 70 degrees. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257444 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428380 I'm doing it right now Mr. B.S. Flag. Sure, you can waste your money on expensive air conditioning while I simply use two box fans and have plenty of extra money to spend on other things. Or maybe you work for the power company or an air conditioner company and this instruction manual is cutting into your bottom line. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257444 Its fukin 100 right now with a heat index of 107. I got the Ac on and its just able to keep it at 78. So yes...
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1257444 United States 06/21/2011 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning Its fukin 100 right now with a heat index of 107. I got the Ac on and its just able to keep it at 78. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428380 The MSM's really got people brainwashed with using expensive air conditioners. Right now it's 100 outside, 76 in the house(according to the furance thermostat) and I'm drinking a nice cool glass of lemonade thanks to two box fans and 250 watts.
kevin austin User ID: 5510381 United States 07/31/2013 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning if it is 107 outside, you are just pulling in air that is 107 degrees into your home. Sure, it can cool a bit by going through the basement, but you would quickly use up that cool air that you have banked in your basement.
Jefiner User ID: 44341817 United States 07/31/2013 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] The ground surrounding the cellar is significantly cooler than the outside air temp. When I lived in NY, the basement was a pleasant refuge during really hot weather. Now that I am in Arizona and without a basement, the AC allows us to get through the summer without killing each other. /fwiw, I never turn the heat on in the winter. Same reason. I would prefer not to.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44230458 United States 07/31/2013 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning works for me just fine, Except I have a tri level. I open a window on the ground floor shade side then during the heat of the day i close the windows to keep the cool in. Repeat
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2226485 United States 07/31/2013 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning The basement is the key. Cool air settles there and without exterior wall to heat up the room air stays cool. I used to live near a small lake a used a squirrel cage fan to draw air from over the lake a push it through a duct into the house. It raises the humidity slightly but the cooling effect is very noticeable. I eventually added a screen filter to keep spiders and such from using the duct as a highway in my home.
Just Some Guy User ID: 38213482 United States 07/31/2013 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning Buy what is called a whole house fan. Fan principal, but it is a fan designed for that purpose. It is mounted in the ceiling and sends the hot air into the attic.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44305466 United States 07/31/2013 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning A/C pulls the humugity out of the air. If it's 90 F outside with really high dew points the shit will hit that fan

Wayne interessierts User ID: 37642485 Netherlands 07/31/2013 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning build the house in the temperate climate zone. that should do the trick.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44354703 Portugal 07/31/2013 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning Its fukin 100 right now with a heat index of 107. I got the Ac on and its just able to keep it at 78. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428380 The MSM's really got people brainwashed with using expensive air conditioners. Right now it's 100 outside, 76 in the house(according to the furance thermostat) and I'm drinking a nice cool glass of lemonade thanks to two box fans and 250 watts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257444 You don't really need to convince the guy. Let him bankrupt himself on behalf of the power company.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19170904 Canada 07/31/2013 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning On a 100 degree day, I can get my house down to 80 degrees. On a 90 degree day, I can get my house down to near 70 degrees. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257444 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428380 I'm doing it right now Mr. B.S. Flag. Sure, you can waste your money on expensive air conditioning while I simply use two box fans and have plenty of extra money to spend on other things. Or maybe you work for the power company or an air conditioner company and this instruction manual is cutting into your bottom line. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1257444 yo they don't have to be expensive, as a matter of fact you can grab a couple window units to do the job. Often for 100$ or less during out-of-season. You just have to use your wit and buy them then!!!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44360466 France 07/31/2013 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning I think it was the Victorians in England who were on to this on a per room basis when they pioneered sash windows. they discovered that if you have the same size opening at the bottom and top of the same window then the cold air enters the room through the lower gap and hot air is expelled from the room via the gap at the top.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31036137 United States 07/31/2013 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning You could also water your roof when it gets really hot. The cost in water isn't that much compared to the heat being prevented from entering the home. Evaporating water is an effective way to remove heat. Ever see the two clay jars? Between the two is packed with wet sand and a cloth over top to cover the inside jar. As the sun/heat evaporates the water in the cloth, more is drawn up from the wet sand. The temp inside the internal jar is cooler. Sometimes enough to refrigerate food in a desert. Imagine a home that had external walls that allow water to soak up to the roof. And the roof had a material that allowed it to evaporate. Rain storage of water (with tap feed if needed) to supply at the basement level. As the external walls heat up the water rises and cool water sinks, creating flow. The evaporation takes that heat away, leaving a cool interior with only using the water that is evaporated....no run off waste.
CommonCents User ID: 43682507 United States 07/31/2013 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning yes, hot air rises, and cooler temps are in basement. But your basement cannot possibly produce enough cooler air to displace outgoing warm air. you are really better off sleeping in the cooler basement. this technique does work at night to flush out the rising hot air faster. open window on lower level north side,(out of the sun) and an open window on top level will create a natural draw during day. if you do have central air, you can get some help just running the fan all the time to circulate interior air. removing the summer humidity is a big problem in cooling more than anything.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41796007 United States 07/31/2013 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning I believe it. All the concrete in the basement is like a cold radiator because of 60 deg earth. So it can help a lot!
Chas User ID: 32761527 United States 07/31/2013 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning Thanks OP...seems plausible... Chas
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44242132 United States 07/31/2013 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning Buy what is called a whole house fan. Fan principal, but it is a fan designed for that purpose. It is mounted in the ceiling and sends the hot air into the attic. Quoting: Just Some Guy I have one and it works really well if it doesn't get over 90.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44305466 United States 07/31/2013 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning I'm not a big A/C fan and live in a open three level townhouse facing NW. A/C is rarely a problem, but when it get's over 100 F outside with high dew points and doesn't drop below 80 F at night, the A/C must go on. My A/C didn't work a couple years ago and we had about three day's in a row with outside temps over 100 F. Fan's didn't do jack, I had enough and tore into the 1974 unit. The magnetic starter was fried and some wiring need fixing. That day I hot wired the unit to get her going and the next day picked up a new magnetic starter for $25 - she's working fine now. See here you younings, us old farts know how to fix stuff. lol
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44305466 United States 07/31/2013 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning Oh I forgot to tell ya, I was a HVAC/R guy for some 30 + years. The OP is full of shit unless night time temps drop below 70 F and the humugity stay's low.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14755179 Canada 07/31/2013 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning Or just turn your furnace can on to circulate air. It doesn't take long to balance out, but yes, it helps.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14703874 United States 07/31/2013 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning Install a central air "ground source heat pump" or "geo thermo air conditioning" system Mine operates for about a buck a day and it preheats my hot water, In some cases, the hot water heater never heats at all. .
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24183289 United States 07/31/2013 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning If you're building a house from scratch, putting in a geothermal heat pump system would be one of the best ways to efficiently climate control a house. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Its a little more up front cost, but worth the comfort and low energy usage.
**SUPERFLY** User ID: 19055858 United States 07/31/2013 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: How to cool a 2 story house with basement without air conditioning build the house in the temperate climate zone. that should do the trick. Quoting: Wayne interessierts You son of a bitch!

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