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Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked

 
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Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
Its a little known fact that the great prophet Isaiah prophesied naked for three whole years. Why isn't this known because church people consider nakedness an automatic sin.


So let's discuss, whether nakedness is a sin, and whether nudity is a sin, and whether the prophets stripped naked when the SPIRIT OF GOD came over them ?

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Do you know what I've decided to do...? I have decided that since everyone here seems quite mad, that the only sensible thing to do is fight fire with fire, so to speak. It is said that those who undertake to study the Zohar become quite insane; so, I have decided to go off for a while and read the Zohar for myself until I become quite insane... what do you think of that plan?

I'll be back when I feel suitably equipped to deal with this sort of madness... or not.

Oh, and this may explain why the prophets were naked... if anything can.
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Its not madness to obey the Lord, its madness not to obey the Lord and HIS SANITY, even though it seems mad to a mad and angry world.
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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
Isaiah Prophesied Naked

Because unto the pure all things are pure, Isaiah was instructed by the Lord to prophesy to the Egyptians by taking off all of his clothes and sandals . He was told to walk among them stark naked for not an afternoon in the sunshine but for three whole years. This is why Isaiah was a great prophet, because he didn't care what others thought about him but only about the Lord, and he obeyed. He wasn't concerned whether or not he matched up to others in comparison or how he might offend or entice the Egyptian women, that wasn't his point. He was to prophesy to them, that if they didn't obey the Lord, they also would go naked before their enemies after their defeat. Did they listen to him? NO, but he did obey the Lord and witness by prophesying naked to them.

This saith the WORD of the Lord ….

Isaiah 20: 2-4 At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot. And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;

So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. Therefore the only way Isaiah could obey is if he was humble and the Lord didn't ask him to do it just for a day but for three whole years. So think of it….. it wasn't some fleeting or streaking sensationalism, but a total witness over the long run. And this is why in the long run the Lord could trust him, because Isaiah put the Lord first before himself or any human relationship.

But being nude or going nude doesn't make somebody automatically humble. Yet if you're humble then being nude doesn't matter if that is what the Lord has instructed you to do. For unto the pure all things are pure and Isaiah was humble or at least became humble in his service to the Lord. It wasn't a sexual display, but a prophetic demonstration and literal example of what judgments were going to happen to the Egyptians, that seeing they might see, and yet they believed not.

I mean even in the New Testament, Paul and Barnabus, had to strip down to their bare essentials, to demonstrate that they were 'mere men' and designed exactly the same way other men were and the way women knew them to be.

Acts 14: 11 And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men. And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker. Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, (in other words, they stripped) and ran in among the people, crying out, And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: (They preached or taught them that Jesus was the Creator, the common Creator of all men and women, who even created their own bodies according to his Image and form)

Paul and Barnabus, just like Isaiah before them had to give them a visual demonstration before they would understand. There was no cover-ups or false fronts or clothes to get in the way of the message. It was straight forward and simple, because obviously the Lord can use our sacredly designed bodies for his service

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. For did not King David dance naked or semi-naked before the Ark of the Lord, yet his own wife mocked him for his pure joy in celebrating the return of the Lord's Spirit.

I Samuel 6: 14 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod. So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the LORD with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet.

And as the Ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal, Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart.
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And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!

And David said unto Michal, It was before the LORD, which chose me before thy father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the LORD, over Israel: therefore will I play before the LORD. (In other words Michal was in the flesh and cared about other women seeing David naked whereas David didn't care because it was as unto the Lord. He was in the Spirit even though naked while she was in the flesh even though clothed)

I Sam 16: 7 for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

Unto the pure all things are pure … In my opinion from all scriptures

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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
Do you know what I've decided to do...? I have decided that since everyone here seems quite mad, that the only sensible thing to do is fight fire with fire, so to speak. It is said that those who undertake to study the Zohar become quite insane; so, I have decided to go off for a while and read the Zohar for myself until I become quite insane... what do you think of that plan?

I'll be back when I feel suitably equipped to deal with this sort of madness... or not.

Oh, and this may explain why the prophets were naked... if anything can.
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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
To understand, you have to get beyond the superficial to the foundation. Strip away the outer garments and reveal the inner truth.

In Isaiah's case, it wasn't about displaying physical nakedness or the truth about our divine bodies, but that a foreign power was going to take over the land, and they were all going to be stripped naked and taken captive.

A physical manifestation showing their future prophetic condition. And of course it was true and was fulfilled as shown.
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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
For unlike King David of Old, who danced naked before the Ark and naked before the maidens of Israel, Isaiah's nakedness was to show the future humiliation of the rebellious people, whereas David's nakedness was to show his joy that the ARK of the Lord was coming to HIS TEMPLE.

And yet in both cases, many were highly offfended by either their nakedness or their meaning in being naked.
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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
Do you know what I've decided to do...? I have decided that since everyone here seems quite mad, that the only sensible thing to do is fight fire with fire, so to speak. It is said that those who undertake to study the Zohar become quite insane; so, I have decided to go off for a while and read the Zohar for myself until I become quite insane... what do you think of that plan?

I'll be back when I feel suitably equipped to deal with this sort of madness... or not.

Oh, and this may explain why the prophets were naked... if anything can.
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Reading doesn't mean understanding.
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No... but it's the only good start, as far as I know.
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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
Besides reading confusing material even if comprehending it's confusion can ONLY make one more confused.

Reading Isaiah's symbolic message of his nakedness was easy to understand. IT WAS THE LIVING WORD, just as following him came the LIVING WORD.

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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
Nakedness isn't a sin, and religion is the ultimate form of stupidity.
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Nakedness isn't a sin, and religion is the ultimate form of stupidity.
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True, just as Jesus said, and yet the church system has changed nudity and sexuality into an automatic sin, whereas real Christians are liberated.

And Yes the religions of man are complete stupidity and worse. They are dangerous.
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Besides reading confusing material even if comprehending it's confusion can ONLY make one more confused.

Reading Isaiah's symbolic message of his nakedness was easy to understand. IT WAS THE LIVING WORD, just as following him came the LIVING WORD.
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Or should I say, the ultimate dangling modifier
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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
And Micah, did the same thing, stripped and prophesied..

Micah 1:8 >>


New International Version (©1984)
Because of this I will weep and wail; I will go about barefoot and naked. I will howl like a jackal and moan like an owl.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Therefore, I will mourn and lament. I will walk around barefoot and naked. I will howl like a jackal and moan like an owl.

English Standard Version (©2001)
For this I will lament and wail; I will go stripped and naked; I will make lamentation like the jackals, and mourning like the ostriches.
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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
As well as Saul before Samuel...

You can find that verse, just look.
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As well as the school of prophets who got entered by the Lord's Spirit and stripped and then prophesied....

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As well as Saul before Samuel...

You can find that verse, just look.
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Context

<< 1 Samuel 19 >>
New American Standard Bible

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24He also stripped off his clothes, and he too prophesied before Samuel and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Therefore they say, “Is Saul also among the prophets?”

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New American Standard Bible (©1995)
He also stripped off his clothes, and he too prophesied before Samuel and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Therefore they say, "Is Saul also among the prophets?"
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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
So are nudists more honest than clothed straits ?

I say NO, as they have as many hang-ups and pride as those in threads, IMO.

But is there more power in a naked human body than in a clothed one ? Is this why the prophets stripped down when the Spirit of the Lord fell upon them.

Is there something about our divine IMAGE and design that when uncovered makes our divine bodies more powerful. I would say Yes, as we are golden sectioned templated, and we are made in the very IMAGE of GOD.
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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
The Lord HIMSELF was not clothed when he walked away from Moses on Mount Sinai... as Moses only saw his hinder parts, his bum, his glottonous maximus, if you will.

And it seems we are given sheer white see through linen as vestures when living in the HEAVENLY CITY.

So is there something special about our design that makes it powerful.

SEE Thread on Mathematical Proof that the Human Form is by DESIGN
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Sure bet this moron got cold in the winter. Or was he simply an exhibitionist in front of others?
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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
That's only what a heathen would think like.

Isaiah did it for three full years, and he was hardly a moron. So Yes, he did it in all four seasons and not all of them are warm in the Mid east.

As for Micah and Saul and the other prophets they seemed to do it ONLY when the spirit of the Lord descended upon them.

Obviously it has not descended on yourself.
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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
So what your saying is...we should all walk around naked right?
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I am looking forward to the fine, clean, white linen that is made ready for the bride of CHRIST. Read Rev. 19!
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I am looking forward to the fine, clean, white linen that is made ready for the bride of CHRIST. Read Rev. 19!
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Hope you are humble enough for its see through transparency.
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Re: Isaiah, Micah, and Saul Prophesied Naked
So what your saying is...we should all walk around naked right?
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Where did I say that ?

Its basically only for those that serve the Lord, and have been told to go naked, or upon whom the Spirit of the Lord falls.

Normal people walking around naked, is what normal people do at nude beaches and nude resorts, and that's hardly the usual place for prophetic events.

All things are possible, though.

But if you have a pure heart, unto the pure all things are pure, and you can walk around naked if you like.... just do it legally as the church and state doesn;t like such revelations.
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