Sicily clocks and grid shutdown/freq. adjustment -- time dilation | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1428695 ![]() 06/25/2011 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the speed of light is really constant, we could interpret that it should go through the sun’s gravitational field at a constant speed without changing speed or direction. Thus, the positions of planets in eclipse photos should remain as though the field didn’t exist. That is, the light travel would remain constant instead of being relative to the sun’s frame and gravitational frame. However; if the speed of light is relative, it should enter the sun’s gravitation field and change to become relative to the sun and it’s frame influence. Thus, any and all observation of light going through a gravitation field can be used to measure the relative influence of the field based on lights progression through the field. The stronger the field, the more influence at greater distances. [link to www.complexrelativity.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1428695 ![]() 06/25/2011 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We don’t understand all forces but we do understand some forces. When riding my tractor, I changed gear to provide more speed on the PTO with less wheel speed from the same engine turns. Thus, the relative forces changed. We do understand how tractor relative forces work. We don’t know about all the relative forces in the universe. We do know that a space craft trajectory can be plotted to cause it to accelerate as it goes around the sun. We know that planets use the same acceleration forces as they move closer and further from the sun. There are many relative forces that could be considered if open minds were to look for solutions that matched classical relativity reality instead of Einstein variable space time with it’s built in singularity flaw. [link to www.complexrelativity.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1428695 ![]() 06/25/2011 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the frame continually moves in some direction and accelerates at some rate, the triangle is never the same. As a result, there hasn’t been 2 identical measurements of the speed of light. I have shown a variety of possible cross frame measurements methods. In each case, the argument has always been that the measurement can be interpreted using Einstein’s relativity to explain away the results. We have 100 years of experiments and activity that is interpreted as supporting Einstein’s relativity. All of those activity have the same interpretation issue. They have the progressive time error used as an excuse instead of being acknowledged as a progressive error that leads to the elimination of time. All of the past 100 years of experiments and activity can be addressed and interpreted with CM and ChR with relative c as a result of acceleration of the mechanism which causes a clock error or deviation. Light is relative as long as the frame is inertial. When there is acceleration, the light is out of synch with the frame until the frame returns to inertial. The results is a clock mechanism error. We don’t have a real lack of cross frame experiments. We have an interpretation problem about all the existing experiments. They can all be properly explained using ChR with relative c. [link to www.complexrelativity.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1428695 ![]() 06/25/2011 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every measurement of the speed of light confirms that the measurement obtains the same results regardless of the size or shape of the triangle in space where the light traveled. To repeat this experiment, simply calculate the speed and direction of movement of the earth based platform being used to measure the speed of light. Then calculate the shape of the triangle the light traveled. From those calculations you can identify the speed of light through space as viewed from some remote point in space. You can observe the triangle from the sun or the moon or any planet or other remote point in space. Each will give a constant speed of light on earth but a different speed of light depending upon the remote observation point as well as the time of day or the location and orientation on earth where the test is conducted. In the above I show that the speed of light is relative and additive to the speed of the earth frame of reference where it resides. I showed that objects move in space over time. In the following I address the assumption that simultaneous events aren't simultaneous because time and space are variable. [link to www.complexrelativity.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1428695 ![]() 06/25/2011 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GR and Newtonian gravity The presence of matter curves space-time in all directions. Space itself is also curved so that two strait (geodesic) lines in space that are parallel at some area get angled and closer or farther apart at a distance. But the effect of the curvature of space is usually minor and negligible. First because we usually talk about velocities that are much lower then light speed. For instance the speed of the Earth in its orbit around the Sun is about 1/10000 the speed of light. That is, while Earth moves one kilometer in say x direction it moves 10,000Km in the ct direction. Obviously the effect of the curvature on time (time dilation) is much more significant than this of the curvature in space directions. In small distances curvature is negligible and space can be considered flat. In addition when we talk about very long distances in space we may get far away from the body that cause the gravity field, and curvature in all directions of space-time gets very small. When we eliminate space curvature from the equation of General Relativity, it gets the form of Newton's law of universal gravitation. So Newton's low of gravitation is an approximation to General Relativity for low speeds and week gravity field, just as classic mechanics is an approximation to Special Relativity for low speeds. Space curvature gets significant when we deal with high speeds and very dense and massive bodies. Then, space curvature gets significant and classic gravitation equations do not predict the motion of bodies correctly. An example for such conditions is a small body in a close orbit around a neutron star. Its orbit is no longer elliptic and has a complex shape. Verifications of the GR Theory There are some known experiments and observations that verify the theory of General Relativity: The bending of light by gravity has been shown by observations made during a total solar eclipse. At a total solar eclipse stars can be seen very close to the limb of the Sun. Measurements done on stars that appeared around the Sun during the eclipse showed that the distance between the stars looked greater then usual. The reason for this was that the light coming from the stars was bent by the gravity of the Sun. Gravitational redshift has been shown by examining the spectrum of light coming from heavy starts like white dwarfs and neutron starts. Also experiments done on Earth by sending laser beams up a high tower could show the slight expected redshift. Gravitational time dilation could be measured using precise clocks on planes and satellites. The Global Positioning System must take the gravitational time dilation into account to get accurate results. The elliptic orbit of the planet Mercury is turning slowly in the direction of the orbit. The amount of this change in the orbit could not be explained by Newtonian gravity but it matches the equations of GR. Since Mercury is the closest planet to the Sun it is in a relatively strong gravity field and it also moves faster the other planets in the solar system. The effect of space curvature on its orbit is noticeable. [link to www.rafimoor.com] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1428695 ![]() 06/25/2011 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Likewise, an atomic clock in Greenwich, England (at sea level), records a slower rate of time than the atomic clock in Boulder, Colorado (at 5,430 feet above sea level). At these relatively small altitudinal differences, the measurable effect is minor. The effect across the greater cosmos can be much more dramatic. The deeper a gravity well, the stronger the GTDE. In fact, according to General Relativity, time actually stands still at the boundary of a black hole—an area known to scientists as an “event horizon,” where gravity is so intense that even light cannot escape (hence the name “black hole”). [link to www.gotquestions.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1437709 ![]() 06/25/2011 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's a simpler explanation. Did you know Venus rotates backwards? (Very slowly.) Current scientific theory is that Venus came close to a powerful magnetic field at some point and magnetic friction slowed its rotation, stopped it, then slightly reversed it. The scientists at Neumayer Research Station have kindly provided us a couple of interesting images: Neumayer, moon overhead: [link to tinypic.com] Neumayer, 3 hours later, brown dwarf overhead: [link to tinypic.com] That brown dwarf is a collapsed star. When a spinning ballerina pulls her arms in, she spins faster. That brown dwarf is undoubtedly spinning like a mofo and has a tremendously powerful magnetic field. It's likely what changed Venus' rotation long ago. And now that it's that close to us - look how big it is compared to the Moon - magnetic friction is now slowing OUR rotation. There are now more than 1440 minutes in a day. Hiding the slowing rotation from people is easy if EVERYTHING gets updated time from a centralized time source like the atomic clocks. But many clocks do not - so they are increasingly showing discrepancies. This will be harder and harder to hide as time goes on (unintentional pun). |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1428695 ![]() 06/25/2011 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Observe the dramatic earth changes that have been occurring. Those that frequent this board or have studied have had ample evidence of solar, physical, weather, natural disaster, tectonic, volcanic, seismic, space weather, solar system, etc. Does this point to the graviational changes as we cross the galactic equator? Does this point to a gravitational force such as a planet or star entering our solar system? Does this point to a terrestrial gravitational change caused by man or unknown forces as some have suggested ie. CERN, solar cycle, entering a gravity well (magnetic ribbon annomaly)? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1428695 ![]() 06/25/2011 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | your arguments would be more convincing if you could spell dilation Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1443068Did the misspelling cause confusion in reference to the meaning of what was written? Wisdom seeks to understand the meaning in communication. Lack of understanding will prompt criticism or refutation based on tiny discrepancies, instead of the meaning. An argument is convincing based on its merit, not on its dictation. A product of our current state of affairs is that most will not contribute substantially, only peripherally and in a self-serving way. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1428695 ![]() 06/25/2011 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Clocks in Sicily, Greece Quoting: Johntarz 1428695This happened in Greece also??? Sicily is part of Italy. Thanks for that correction, yes Sicily, Italy. Greece is collapsing financially, but not reporting clock problems. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1428695 ![]() 06/25/2011 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW, the time dilation theory could perhaps explain the exploding transformers because it would cause mis-matches in the phase of the AC cycle. Could also explain spirals as well (...but that theory is beyond me). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1441076A proposal based on your point. All planetary-size bodies generate a magnetic field. The field is stronger in relation to the bodies mass, composition (iron core, gas, etc), spin, and its relation to other bodies. Stars and planets have gravitational node rings. These are generated at the equitorial plane of the body and have strong gravitational points called node rings. These rings are where other bodies that are captured by the bodies graviational field will reside. The moon is located on the earths equatorial node ring at the point of strong magnetic force. Saturn is a clear model of rings visible at the equatorial plane of a planet. The solar system planets reside in the node rings of the suns gravitational nodes on the equatorial plane of the sun called the ecliptic. A dead star or other planet-sized body entering our solar system would have node rings that would cross earth's orbit at certain times relative to the movement of that body and its equatorial node ring orientation. If the earth entered the node ring of another body with strong graviational forces, it could cause localized gravitational annomalies and other disturbances. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1428695 ![]() 06/27/2011 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting take on the subject with regard to history and mythology. Thread: Anunnaki, Nibiru, Brown Dwarfs, and Gravitational Time Dilation |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1428695 ![]() 06/27/2011 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about all the watches? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1243346From reading various stories, articles, and posts concerning the clocks, it seems that electronic devices are effected by speeding up or gaining time when compared to mechanical clocks. Is an electrical/magnetic phenomena affecting electronic devices because of their frequency? The proposed changes by the navy to create a wider range of frequency for the electrical grid will compensate for this? |