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just a theory(regarding star/astral travel)

 
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this post has no links so if you are ok with that and want to read my theory please continue. It also assumes the reader believes in the astral, mental and spirit worlds

SOME BACKGROUND

as i was sitting on the dock by the water this weekend i was lucky enough to do some stargazing( i live in the city and dont see many stars but vega and draco)

i should note that over the past few years ive been waking up and have developed the ability to see into the spirit world. Some OBES and lucid dreams here and there. Conscious entities and what some might call "gods"

I had done some previous research into the giza pyramids the week before and had a thought while looking at the stars.

Does anyone else look up and see ghosting, or quick movements between the stars? What about lines that are drawn real quick between stars?

WHAT IF?

what if there was no need to build mechanical ships to take up to the stars? what if modern civilization has it all wrong? what if the stars themselves, the shapes they create could launch us up to a certain higher dimension or level of the holographic fractal universe?

I think the original builders of the giza pyramids knew this. After all they lined the pyramids up with a very special star system.

Modern day archeology tells us these were tombs or shrines built to honor the dead. Well that makes sense considering they found the dead pharos in these tombs.

What we neglect to acknowledge is the deep and intertwined spiritual nature of the ancient egyptians. Do we consider their priesthood initiation traditions in our modern day theories about the pyramids?

What if the creators came from distant star systems or retained knowledge of a distant past from where they once came? What if they knew that they could visit those places without a space craft, while their fleshy earth bodies were asleep?


As they slept in the tombs their light bodies, guided by the chambers designed to direct their non physical energies , traveled in the right direction so they could find their way back home just for the night,

We spend so much money on building ships to take us just beyond our atmosphere. I think we are wasting our energy and resources in a way. We can go much further. Those of you who practice control of your light bodies realize this too. Its a lost art. we are so clouded by our physical technologies that we have been led astray from the god given technology built right into us.


after i had this realization on the dock, looking at the sky, i went to bed in the hotel and had quite an amazing astral experience. I saw greys, I saw eel like, reptilians with flowing bodies, I felt the STRONGEST OBE pulls ive ever felt and I was being guided. I was show by something that looked like ENKI, a man with a beard and wings, a way to think about getting out of my body. The visualization came to my mind. I was a rock and there was a parachute attached to me and the wind was pulling the chute and in turn the rock. I could see tunnels into the stars, pathways where to go. Then i got even more help. I was shown the vision of a baseball bat hitting the rock as a way to communicate with my human mind the last technique to get me, or the rock flying at the right velocity to pull me out of body.

Unfortunately i had heartburn that woke me as i was being helped out of body up to the stars by the ENKI type angel.


The next morning i had a moment to reflect on this. Once when i was a young man in college i ate magic mushrooms. I was able to step out of my body and to the outer edge of our "dimension" The earth looked like one of those electrical devices that you put your hands up to and the electricity zaps the glass.

Only now do i understand that. Those streams of electricity are pathways to the higher realms. I saw them from afar on that trip long ago and then saw them from 1st person perspective the other night. Now i get it. Now i see how i get to the astral.

This also leads to my conclusion. Considering the holographic nature of our existence, i believe the stars are a network of pathways that all lead to earth. earth is the stage. we are the actors. and others we are watching our dreams.

IN CONCLUSION

If you believe in astrology, then you believe you are under the influence of a particular region of the sky. is it possible to think that if "you" come from there that you can go there from here as well. not in a space ship but in a light body. Have you met your higher self? I make my higher-self laugh at my lower human self. now i get it though. "we" design our experience here so that "we" can learn an grow up there by watching and interacting with ourselves. Our pets here in the physical. they are designed up there so that we may have the desired effect for personal growth and experiences. From up there, choose our families to birth into down here so that we can have the desired outcomes to grow as souls.


If youve read this far, I thank you and am curious to hear your thoughts about star travel the old fashioned way.
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You dont have a theory.

You dont even have a hypothesis.

You have conjecture based on your own misconceptions about the world.

Dont sully the word "theory" with your inane babblings.
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a side note: the orbs that we see on camera and sometimes up near the space station might be conscious thought forms or entities that respond to us and are curious about our activities.

they may be a part of the natural ecosystem and when we are up there in spac3 physically and when we are on the way to the astral we encounter them
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You dont have a theory.

You dont even have a hypothesis.

You have conjecture based on your own misconceptions about the world.

Dont sully the word "theory" with your inane babblings.
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you must be a slave to dogma
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i hope i dont get a ban
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You dont have a theory.

You dont even have a hypothesis.

You have conjecture based on your own misconceptions about the world.

Dont sully the word "theory" with your inane babblings.
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you must be a slave to dogma
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Im a slave to correct understanding, and you muddy the understanding of both hypothesis and theory by trying to apply any scientific label to your gibberish.

How about some evidence to support your claim is even viable, as is the custom in SCIENCE, which you are trying to hijack.
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a side note: the orbs that we see on camera and sometimes up near the space station might be conscious thought forms or entities that respond to us and are curious about our activities.

they may be a part of the natural ecosystem and when we are up there in spac3 physically and when we are on the way to the astral we encounter them
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Yes or they maybe be grease smear blobs or light refractions..
so...on any medication?
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Hi Mantis! I'm glad you started this thread I was just posting about Astral Travel in another thread. I have never seen the lines between the stars but on a few occassion I have seen something move between them.

Also I believe I have astral traveled a few times...but I can only remember the one vividly. Well I was meditating lying in bed. That's how I do it laying down...that just works best for me...anyway...I think I was in between sleep and being awake. I remember flying or floating? before I knew it I saw this beautiful place just ahead...it was so pretty I wanted to get there asap. I arrived at the bottom of a great staircase. I didn't notice anyone...I was alone. I was in awe of the beauty of this place. I felt at peace...just as I was about to go exploring...I was right back in my body again....it happened so quickly. I opened my eyes and knew right then I have just saw Heaven. No question about it. I then went to my computer to see if I could find any images close to what I saw. I didn't have to search for long before I saw something that matched. From that point on I knew I was given a glimpse of Heaven. What an experience.

hf
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glad the shills are out. it is forbidden knowledge by you PTB isnt it?
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Hi Mantis! I'm glad you started this thread I was just posting about Astral Travel in another thread. I have never seen the lines between the stars but on a few occassion I have seen something move between them.

Also I believe I have astral traveled a few times...but I can only remember the one vividly. Well I was meditating lying in bed. That's how I do it laying down...that just works best for me...anyway...I think I was in between sleep and being awake. I remember flying or floating? before I knew it I saw this beautiful place just ahead...it was so pretty I wanted to get there asap. I arrived at the bottom of a great staircase. I didn't notice anyone...I was alone. I was in awe of the beauty of this place. I felt at peace...just as I was about to go exploring...I was right back in my body again....it happened so quickly. I opened my eyes and knew right then I have just saw Heaven. No question about it. I then went to my computer to see if I could find any images close to what I saw. I didn't have to search for long before I saw something that matched. From that point on I knew I was given a glimpse of Heaven. What an experience.

hf
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Hey Sweetie. Glad to see a familiar "face" did you notice the style of architecture of the steps? was it mayan/aztec or classic Renaissance?
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glad the shills are out. it is forbidden knowledge by you PTB isnt it?
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Is the definition of a "shill" someone who finds it hard to agree with a page of garbled unexplained nonsense that looks like it's been written by someone on recreational drugs? If so, I am one.
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My friend I believe you are on the right track!

Research the Merkaba
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Hi Mantis! I'm glad you started this thread I was just posting about Astral Travel in another thread. I have never seen the lines between the stars but on a few occassion I have seen something move between them.

Also I believe I have astral traveled a few times...but I can only remember the one vividly. Well I was meditating lying in bed. That's how I do it laying down...that just works best for me...anyway...I think I was in between sleep and being awake. I remember flying or floating? before I knew it I saw this beautiful place just ahead...it was so pretty I wanted to get there asap. I arrived at the bottom of a great staircase. I didn't notice anyone...I was alone. I was in awe of the beauty of this place. I felt at peace...just as I was about to go exploring...I was right back in my body again....it happened so quickly. I opened my eyes and knew right then I have just saw Heaven. No question about it. I then went to my computer to see if I could find any images close to what I saw. I didn't have to search for long before I saw something that matched. From that point on I knew I was given a glimpse of Heaven. What an experience.

hf
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Hey Sweetie. Glad to see a familiar "face" did you notice the style of architecture of the steps? was it mayan/aztec or classic Renaissance?
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Honey they were gold! The colors of Heaven are unlike any colors you see here on earth. They are more vibrant...it's like everything is new. Beautiful is the only word that comes to mind. Also heaven is in another dimension. It's not past the stars...that's what I took from it.

I am sorry I don't know much about Architecture it did not look mayan/aztec that's for sure.

Also the one thing that always gets me about this is that I was not allowed to go any further. Why? It's like as soon as I was about to go further I got pulled right back. Now I am not complaining. I am grateful for the peek I got...

hf
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glad the shills are out. it is forbidden knowledge by you PTB isnt it?
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Is the definition of a "shill" someone who finds it hard to agree with a page of garbled unexplained nonsense that looks like it's been written by someone on recreational drugs? If so, I am one.
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Just because you have never experienced it...does not make it nonsense...
hf
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Honey they were gold! The colors of Heaven are unlike any colors you see here on earth. They are more vibrant...it's like everything is new. Beautiful is the only word that comes to mind. Also heaven is in another dimension. It's not past the stars...that's what I took from it.

I am sorry I don't know much about Architecture it did not look mayan/aztec that's for sure.

Also the one thing that always gets me about this is that I was not allowed to go any further. Why? It's like as soon as I was about to go further I got pulled right back. Now I am not complaining. I am grateful for the peek I got...

hf
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wow. never seen gold steps. i once saw a kingdom carved from a mountain though. sounds like something special you saw for sure.
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My friend I believe you are on the right track!

Research the Merkaba
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wow. cool! now that i think about it one lucid dream i had i was hanging onto a glass triangle flying over a holographic city!
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My friend I believe you are on the right track!

Research the Merkaba
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wow. cool! now that i think about it one lucid dream i had i was hanging onto a glass triangle flying over a holographic city!
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That is cool Mantis...hf
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Re: just a theory(regarding star/astral travel)
Honey they were gold! The colors of Heaven are unlike any colors you see here on earth. They are more vibrant...it's like everything is new. Beautiful is the only word that comes to mind. Also heaven is in another dimension. It's not past the stars...that's what I took from it.

I am sorry I don't know much about Architecture it did not look mayan/aztec that's for sure.

Also the one thing that always gets me about this is that I was not allowed to go any further. Why? It's like as soon as I was about to go further I got pulled right back. Now I am not complaining. I am grateful for the peek I got...

hf
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wow. never seen gold steps. i once saw a kingdom carved from a mountain though. sounds like something special you saw for sure.
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Mantis can you tell me more of this kingdom carved in the mountains? It almost reminds me Shambala...

hf
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You dont have a theory.

You dont even have a hypothesis.

You have conjecture based on your own misconceptions about the world.

Dont sully the word "theory" with your inane babblings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343060


you must be a slave to dogma
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1457037


Im a slave to correct understanding, and you muddy the understanding of both hypothesis and theory by trying to apply any scientific label to your gibberish.

How about some evidence to support your claim is even viable, as is the custom in SCIENCE, which you are trying to hijack.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343060


did you skip the 1st sentence of my post?

this post has no links so if you are ok with that and want to read my theory please continue. It also assumes the reader believes in the astral, mental and spirit worlds
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Mantis can you tell me more of this kingdom carved in the mountains? It almost reminds me Shambala...

hf
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sure. it was durring what many on this site call "the dark night of the soul"

just as i was about to snap from the dark ones in my room, i was exausted trying to bloack them out with a wall of light,

i asked god for help. i never really prayed like that. i asked for adoni, and said a hebrew prayer i learned as a child.

I was shown a mountain. i was at the bottom. i was looking up and saw it went all the way into the clouds. i followed it up with my eyes and say a castle there. I made me feel safe and made me realize i had ways to go if i wanted to be a part of the light.

it gave me hope.
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Mantis can you tell me more of this kingdom carved in the mountains? It almost reminds me Shambala...

hf
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sure. it was durring what many on this site call "the dark night of the soul"

just as i was about to snap from the dark ones in my room, i was exausted trying to bloack them out with a wall of light,

i asked god for help. i never really prayed like that. i asked for adoni, and said a hebrew prayer i learned as a child.

I was shown a mountain. i was at the bottom. i was looking up and saw it went all the way into the clouds. i followed it up with my eyes and say a castle there. I made me feel safe and made me realize i had ways to go if i wanted to be a part of the light.

it gave me hope.
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wow!! Thank you very much for sharing that with me hugs

:Shambala222:

hf
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Mantis can you tell me more of this kingdom carved in the mountains? It almost reminds me Shambala...

hf
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sure. it was durring what many on this site call "the dark night of the soul"

just as i was about to snap from the dark ones in my room, i was exausted trying to bloack them out with a wall of light,

i asked god for help. i never really prayed like that. i asked for adoni, and said a hebrew prayer i learned as a child.

I was shown a mountain. i was at the bottom. i was looking up and saw it went all the way into the clouds. i followed it up with my eyes and say a castle there. I made me feel safe and made me realize i had ways to go if i wanted to be a part of the light.

it gave me hope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1457037


wow!! Thank you very much for sharing that with me hugs

:Shambala222:

hf
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wow. llooked juust like that. gold or red clay. it was glorious
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Mantis can you tell me more of this kingdom carved in the mountains? It almost reminds me Shambala...

hf
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sure. it was durring what many on this site call "the dark night of the soul"

just as i was about to snap from the dark ones in my room, i was exausted trying to bloack them out with a wall of light,

i asked god for help. i never really prayed like that. i asked for adoni, and said a hebrew prayer i learned as a child.

I was shown a mountain. i was at the bottom. i was looking up and saw it went all the way into the clouds. i followed it up with my eyes and say a castle there. I made me feel safe and made me realize i had ways to go if i wanted to be a part of the light.

it gave me hope.
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wow!! Thank you very much for sharing that with me hugs

:Shambala222:

hf
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wow. llooked juust like that. gold or red clay. it was glorious
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Mantis honey...did you ever see my thread about shambala...I decided to start one after reading a few things about it...it just touched my soul ya know...I had to learn more lol. That is so cool...maybe you were given a glimpse of this special place. I envy you...hf
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shambala...

reading your thread now!
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shambala...

reading your thread now!
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I would love to hear what you have to say...I have to go for about an hour but will be back on...btw...great topic you got going here honey...

peace

hf
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You dont have a theory.

You dont even have a hypothesis.

You have conjecture based on your own misconceptions about the world.

Dont sully the word "theory" with your inane babblings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343060


you must be a slave to dogma
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1457037


Im a slave to correct understanding, and you muddy the understanding of both hypothesis and theory by trying to apply any scientific label to your gibberish.

How about some evidence to support your claim is even viable, as is the custom in SCIENCE, which you are trying to hijack.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343060


did you skip the 1st sentence of my post?

this post has no links so if you are ok with that and want to read my theory please continue. It also assumes the reader believes in the astral, mental and spirit worlds
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Yeah, i did. Its where I noticed that you claimed your gibberish as theory, which its not.
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you must be a slave to dogma
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Im a slave to correct understanding, and you muddy the understanding of both hypothesis and theory by trying to apply any scientific label to your gibberish.

How about some evidence to support your claim is even viable, as is the custom in SCIENCE, which you are trying to hijack.
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did you skip the 1st sentence of my post?

this post has no links so if you are ok with that and want to read my theory please continue. It also assumes the reader believes in the astral, mental and spirit worlds
 Quoting: mantis 1457037

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Yeah, i did. Its where I noticed that you claimed your gibberish as theory, which its not.
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whateverhf you have some growing to do
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Had the same vision as well but I was in direct line of sight with it...
Was some time ago now...
Hope you guys see it again...
Very peaceful and surreal... E
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your post reminds me of a book i once bought
at a Greatful Dead concert, where all the Deadheads
used to hang out and some sold this trippy stuff.
The book I have is Easy Journey to Other Planets [Paperback] A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
and you can buy it on Amazon for $2.99
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glad the shills are out. it is forbidden knowledge by you PTB isnt it?
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Is the definition of a "shill" someone who finds it hard to agree with a page of garbled unexplained nonsense that looks like it's been written by someone on recreational drugs? If so, I am one.
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Just because you have never experienced it...does not make it nonsense...
hf
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It does make it 'nonsense' when the writer does not explain with enough detail(logical or otherwise) to make sense in English. Much of it was not remotely understandable..and I'm not talking typos. It's in the wording.
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Re: just a theory(regarding star/astral travel)
WHAT IF

What if we are not the highest level on the food chain?

What if there were predators feasting on the humans?

What if they hunger for our emotions, for our beliefs, for our attention?


What if 99% of the BS from the astral and the new-age wass originating from the depths of the your own self-delusion?



"The name of the second Hall is the Hall of Learning. In it thy Soul will find the blossoms of life, but under every flower a serpent coiled. (The astral region, the Psychic World of supersensuous perceptions and of deceptive sights. . . . No blossom picked in those regions has ever yet been brought down on earth without its serpent coiled around the stem. It is the world of the Great Illusion.)"
-Helena Blavatsky



The great deception of these times is that many people BELIEVE they are smart enough to not be deceived, and that they are just looking for that Truth which only they are brave enough to face and understand.


While actually a 5 years old knows more truth than them.





GLP