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Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
If food shortages are expected and prices go through the roof, what exactly are people going to be buying and selling? What would be people's motivation for taking this Mark if they can't even afford to purchase basic groceries? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Maybe only rich people will take the mark? I would submit that many (if not most) wealthy folks already bear the "mark", as it boils down to merely "the love of money".





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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
For your gubmint rations foo.
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
IMHO, it is the locations of the mark that is symbolic of having the mark!!

On the forehead, as in believing in a certain construct, and on the hand, as in performing in the actions of your beliefs!!

There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that it is RELIGION that is this beast!!

How many folks have been slain in the name of god and country, and both are derivatives of religion!!


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And I heard a voice in the middle of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see you hurt not the oil and the wine.
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
First must come one global currency which comes shortly after the antichrists emergence as one of the most charismatic people the world has ever seen. Through him, the world will seek peace and harmony after witnessing and living through complete chaos. The mark of the beast will be implanted either in the right hand or the forehead for those that do not have right hands and this implant will allow you to buy, sell and trade in everyday society so that you can provide for your family. All you have to do is worship the beast that the antichrist promotes and for those that do not, well they will go hungry and be tortured saved not the seal of God.
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
First must come one global currency which comes shortly after the antichrists emergence as one of the most charismatic people the world has ever seen. Through him, the world will seek peace and harmony after witnessing and living through complete chaos. The mark of the beast will be implanted either in the right hand or the forehead for those that do not have right hands and this implant will allow you to buy, sell and trade in everyday society so that you can provide for your family. All you have to do is worship the beast that the antichrist promotes and for those that do not, well they will go hungry and be tortured saved not the seal of God.
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We already have a global currency, tell me where I can buy my goods with monopoly money?

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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
IMHO, it is the locations of the mark that is symbolic of having the mark!!

On the forehead, as in believing in a certain construct, and on the hand, as in performing in the actions of your beliefs!!

There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that it is RELIGION that is this beast!!

How many folks have been slain in the name of god and country, and both are derivatives of religion!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Agreed. In Exodus 13 God talks about obedience to His law being a symbolic "sign" on the hand and the forehead. The mark of the beast is essentially the same thing, but denoting allegiance to "The World". I become convinced that it's not some literal chip or whatever, to be issued by some celebrated Anti-Christ. It's just the banking system, and the leveraging of assets to enslave people, and has been around for some time. Those who love money have "the mark", and those who don't love money do not. Like everything else in the bible, it's simply a matter of the heart.

But the purpose of this thread is to give christian literalists a chance to sell me on their written-in-stone prefab horror story. I used to believe it all, too, but none of it is very logical. TPTB have sold us their "Left Behind" bullshit to essentially pave the way for us to allow it, but I'm not buying. Babylon is hitting the deck even now.
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
First must come one global currency which comes shortly after the antichrists emergence as one of the most charismatic people the world has ever seen. Through him, the world will seek peace and harmony after witnessing and living through complete chaos. The mark of the beast will be implanted either in the right hand or the forehead for those that do not have right hands and this implant will allow you to buy, sell and trade in everyday society so that you can provide for your family. All you have to do is worship the beast that the antichrist promotes and for those that do not, well they will go hungry and be tortured saved not the seal of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


I'm sorry, but this is all absolute crap. It's a manipulative script they've sold us on, so that we don't resist - "a'cuz it's PROPHECY!!"

hf
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And I heard a voice in the middle of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see you hurt not the oil and the wine.
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So, apply this quote for us. . .what are you saying?
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
First must come one global currency which comes shortly after the antichrists emergence as one of the most charismatic people the world has ever seen. Through him, the world will seek peace and harmony after witnessing and living through complete chaos. The mark of the beast will be implanted either in the right hand or the forehead for those that do not have right hands and this implant will allow you to buy, sell and trade in everyday society so that you can provide for your family. All you have to do is worship the beast that the antichrist promotes and for those that do not, well they will go hungry and be tortured saved not the seal of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


We already have a global currency, tell me where I can buy my goods with monopoly money?

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


I know you are so bent up on being right and ive seen you reply complete nonsense all the time but instead of trying to make up bs like we have one global currency now and then sitting there with undeserved sense self of accomplishment, try learning something and sticking to the thread... after all it wasn't is there all ready a global currency
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
The Mark of the Beast is your Debit card. It can be shut off instantly.. its hard to use cash and checks are ancient.

The word "mark" as in German "mark" comes from Jesus' grandfather Dolla... where we get the word dollar... When someone would trade a goat for a wife... Someone would go to the area of the rock that represented these family's and place a mark... Marking the trade. It was the first form of currency or trade.
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
Are you guys aware that the "beast" was making war on the saints 1000 years ago?
Can it get much worse than the tortures and burnings they were issuing? Somehow, though, they have us all on the edge of our seats, expecting "unimaginable hell on earth" any day now, as if none of it has played out yet.
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
First must come one global currency which comes shortly after the antichrists emergence as one of the most charismatic people the world has ever seen. Through him, the world will seek peace and harmony after witnessing and living through complete chaos. The mark of the beast will be implanted either in the right hand or the forehead for those that do not have right hands and this implant will allow you to buy, sell and trade in everyday society so that you can provide for your family. All you have to do is worship the beast that the antichrist promotes and for those that do not, well they will go hungry and be tortured saved not the seal of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


I'm sorry, but this is all absolute crap. It's a manipulative script they've sold us on, so that we don't resist - "a'cuz it's PROPHECY!!"

hf
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Why do you even bother asking if you are not going to have reason with your replys. I would say that somebody sold you crap a long time ago and its kept you full all this time. You have not had one origial thought since then you just been repeating what all the cool guys say.
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
First must come one global currency which comes shortly after the antichrists emergence as one of the most charismatic people the world has ever seen. Through him, the world will seek peace and harmony after witnessing and living through complete chaos. The mark of the beast will be implanted either in the right hand or the forehead for those that do not have right hands and this implant will allow you to buy, sell and trade in everyday society so that you can provide for your family. All you have to do is worship the beast that the antichrist promotes and for those that do not, well they will go hungry and be tortured saved not the seal of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


We already have a global currency, tell me where I can buy my goods with monopoly money?

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


I know you are so bent up on being right and ive seen you reply complete nonsense all the time but instead of trying to make up bs like we have one global currency now and then sitting there with undeserved sense self of accomplishment, try learning something and sticking to the thread... after all it wasn't is there all ready a global currency
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


Every government already produces its own currency that you must use to purchase goods!!

How is that not already global?

Do you christians already have your own country somewhere that doesn't require some form of government produced currency in exchange for goods?

And I dont make anything up grasshopper!!



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First must come one global currency which comes shortly after the antichrists emergence as one of the most charismatic people the world has ever seen. Through him, the world will seek peace and harmony after witnessing and living through complete chaos. The mark of the beast will be implanted either in the right hand or the forehead for those that do not have right hands and this implant will allow you to buy, sell and trade in everyday society so that you can provide for your family. All you have to do is worship the beast that the antichrist promotes and for those that do not, well they will go hungry and be tortured saved not the seal of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


We already have a global currency, tell me where I can buy my goods with monopoly money?

___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


I know you are so bent up on being right and ive seen you reply complete nonsense all the time but instead of trying to make up bs like we have one global currency now and then sitting there with undeserved sense self of accomplishment, try learning something and sticking to the thread... after all it wasn't is there all ready a global currency
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


Every government already produces its own currency that you must use to purchase goods!!

How is that not already global?

Do you christians already have your own country somewhere that doesn't require some form of government produced currency in exchange for goods?

And I dont make anything up grasshopper!!



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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


so under your logic, since every country already has a form of government then we already have a one world government. I see its not that you are being a smart ass its that you are just a dumb ass
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
First must come one global currency which comes shortly after the antichrists emergence as one of the most charismatic people the world has ever seen. Through him, the world will seek peace and harmony after witnessing and living through complete chaos. The mark of the beast will be implanted either in the right hand or the forehead for those that do not have right hands and this implant will allow you to buy, sell and trade in everyday society so that you can provide for your family. All you have to do is worship the beast that the antichrist promotes and for those that do not, well they will go hungry and be tortured saved not the seal of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


I'm sorry, but this is all absolute crap. It's a manipulative script they've sold us on, so that we don't resist - "a'cuz it's PROPHECY!!"

hf
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Why do you even bother asking if you are not going to have reason with your replys. I would say that somebody sold you crap a long time ago and its kept you full all this time. You have not had one origial thought since then you just been repeating what all the cool guys say.
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yup


this implant will allow you to buy, sell and trade in everyday society so that you can provide for your family.
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This is my question. . .what kind of shape is "everyday society" even in these days? What are people going to be buying and selling if costs are prohibitive? Say the time comes and they make the Mark mandatory - just how many people are going to bother signing up, if the economy is in utter collapse? If the middle class no longer exists, won't it just be rich people? (And aren't rich people already on everybody's shit-list)?
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First must come one global currency which comes shortly after the antichrists emergence as one of the most charismatic people the world has ever seen. Through him, the world will seek peace and harmony after witnessing and living through complete chaos. The mark of the beast will be implanted either in the right hand or the forehead for those that do not have right hands and this implant will allow you to buy, sell and trade in everyday society so that you can provide for your family. All you have to do is worship the beast that the antichrist promotes and for those that do not, well they will go hungry and be tortured saved not the seal of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


I'm sorry, but this is all absolute crap. It's a manipulative script they've sold us on, so that we don't resist - "a'cuz it's PROPHECY!!"

hf
 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


Why do you even bother asking if you are not going to have reason with your replys. I would say that somebody sold you crap a long time ago and its kept you full all this time. You have not had one origial thought since then you just been repeating what all the cool guys say.
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yup


this implant will allow you to buy, sell and trade in everyday society so that you can provide for your family.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


This is my question. . .what kind of shape is "everyday society" even in these days? What are people going to be buying and selling if costs are prohibitive? Say the time comes and they make the Mark mandatory - just how many people are going to bother signing up, if the economy is in utter collapse? If the middle class no longer exists, won't it just be rich people? (And aren't rich people already on everybody's shit-list)?
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Only after the wrath of God will people seek refuge with the beast (most unknowing) and yes they will gladly take the mark for they have already been smited by extreme bad luck so they think.
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Here's where I'm coming from on this: I was a Hal Lindsey-tard for a long time, watching for the sky to start falling any day, mentally prepping myself for some inconceivable nightmare world to unfold, and convinced that the Rapture would wisk us Christers away to safety because somehow we deserved better.

But it turns out that the story of some slick, charismatic Anti-Christ presiding over a worldwide nazi dictatorship via barcodes and computer chips is not the Gospel, and questioning its validity is not blasphemy.
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
If food shortages are expected and prices go through the roof, what exactly are people going to be buying and selling? What would be people's motivation for taking this Mark if they can't even afford to purchase basic groceries? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Maybe only rich people will take the mark? I would submit that many (if not most) wealthy folks already bear the "mark", as it boils down to merely "the love of money".
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it'llbe a new currency, albeit they will most likely be living hand to mouth.......

poverty, people who are hungry are easier to control and cant fight back as much.

but in light of that which comes upon the earth, they will consider it heavenly. and willingly submit......
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Here's where I'm coming from on this: I was a Hal Lindsey-tard for a long time, watching for the sky to start falling any day, mentally prepping myself for some inconceivable nightmare world to unfold, and convinced that the Rapture would wisk us Christers away to safety because somehow we deserved better.

But it turns out that the story of some slick, charismatic Anti-Christ presiding over a worldwide nazi dictatorship via barcodes and computer chips is not the Gospel, and questioning its validity is not blasphemy.
 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


look, they will think this guy is the Lord returned, in revelations it specifically tells you the Jesus will put a mark upon you, write his name and the Fathers name and even give you a name you only shall know.......

the beast who is posing as the Lord will "counterfeit" this as well.

only with the Lord, the marks are to say you are his. not to be able to buy or sell.........

they will be physical in nature. if you do not have the mark, they will kill you thinking they do God a favor......

how else will they know if the mark isnt physical???? and can be seen???
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Only after the wrath of God will people seek refuge with the beast (most unknowing) and yes they will gladly take the mark for they have already been smited by extreme bad luck so they think.
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OK, but the beast isn't a man, and never was. It's a "kingdom", chewing people up and spitting them out.
People (normal people, of any and all background and beliefs) have had enough of this kind of mess.

Based on what I've seen and heard from hardcore Christians, I'm confident that when dust starts settling and a better life emerges, they're mostly going to suspect it's a horrible trick. I can't help but think of the stories of Jap soldiers from WWII, still hiding out on islands years after the war, with no clue that it was over. Forever crouching deep inside their mental strongholds, suspicious of every sound and every movement.
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Here's where I'm coming from on this: I was a Hal Lindsey-tard for a long time, watching for the sky to start falling any day, mentally prepping myself for some inconceivable nightmare world to unfold, and convinced that the Rapture would wisk us Christers away to safety because somehow we deserved better.

But it turns out that the story of some slick, charismatic Anti-Christ presiding over a worldwide nazi dictatorship via barcodes and computer chips is not the Gospel, and questioning its validity is not blasphemy.
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Your first mistake was believing in the rapture.. one that does not exist. Letting man break your spirit and hope in a God we surely cannot see but can feel with the Holy Spirit was your second.

Only after the four winds of the earth are held back so that God (the father of Jesus Christ) can give those people whose names are written in the book life the seal of God, will Gods wrath change the face of the Earth, then comes the antichrist to bring a tired and disgruntled world together for ushering in of the worship of the beast.

Yes it does take an absolute lunatic to believe such things but the world is still full of us.
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they will be physical in nature. if you do not have the mark, they will kill you
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Is there a verse stating this?
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We already have a global currency, tell me where I can buy my goods with monopoly money?

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


I know you are so bent up on being right and ive seen you reply complete nonsense all the time but instead of trying to make up bs like we have one global currency now and then sitting there with undeserved sense self of accomplishment, try learning something and sticking to the thread... after all it wasn't is there all ready a global currency
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


Every government already produces its own currency that you must use to purchase goods!!

How is that not already global?

Do you christians already have your own country somewhere that doesn't require some form of government produced currency in exchange for goods?

And I dont make anything up grasshopper!!



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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


so under your logic, since every country already has a form of government then we already have a one world government. I see its not that you are being a smart ass its that you are just a dumb ass
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LOL, the bloodlines that rule the world have done so thru divide and conquer constructs!!

Patriotism is one of those divisions, out-dated for them now, so yes, they need to unite folks into a one world government, but even you're own scriptures prophecy it to be under the rule of ten nations still, yes?

There has never been a USA, or China, or Russia for the bloodlines, that's always been for our consumption!!

So even if Earth is reduced to ten nations and a one currency comes about, what is the difference?

Will you not still have to use that currency, as we do now, to still purchase your goods?

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Letting man break your spirit and hope in a God we surely cannot see but can feel with the Holy Spirit was your second.
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Huh? Did I even imply such a thing?
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Only after the wrath of God will people seek refuge with the beast (most unknowing) and yes they will gladly take the mark for they have already been smited by extreme bad luck so they think.
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OK, but the beast isn't a man, and never was. It's a "kingdom", chewing people up and spitting them out.
People (normal people, of any and all background and beliefs) have had enough of this kind of mess.

Based on what I've seen and heard from hardcore Christians, I'm confident that when dust starts settling and a better life emerges, they're mostly going to suspect it's a horrible trick. I can't help but think of the stories of Jap soldiers from WWII, still hiding out on islands years after the war, with no clue that it was over. Forever crouching deep inside their mental strongholds, suspicious of every sound and every movement.
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The beast is not a kingdom for it is satan himself and he will expect worship. My God does not expect worship he gives all his authorty Jesus.

Also you are comparing apples with broomsticks. Everyman and Woman will mourn when they see Jesus Christs return for they shall truly have egg on there face
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
The "mark" is an allegiance to the "beast"....probably the UN/PTB.

In/On your forehead signifies the "mind". Your thoughts, choosing the spirit of the AC over the spirit of God. Those who serve God have his "seal" and those serve evil will have the "mark/seal" of Satan for it is him whom they CHOOSE to serve.

In the right hand means which ACTIONS you choose.

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I know you are so bent up on being right and ive seen you reply complete nonsense all the time but instead of trying to make up bs like we have one global currency now and then sitting there with undeserved sense self of accomplishment, try learning something and sticking to the thread... after all it wasn't is there all ready a global currency
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


Every government already produces its own currency that you must use to purchase goods!!

How is that not already global?

Do you christians already have your own country somewhere that doesn't require some form of government produced currency in exchange for goods?

And I dont make anything up grasshopper!!



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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


so under your logic, since every country already has a form of government then we already have a one world government. I see its not that you are being a smart ass its that you are just a dumb ass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316207


LOL, the bloodlines that rule the world have done so thru divide and conquer constructs!!

Patriotism is one of those divisions, out-dated for them now, so yes, they need to unite folks into a one world government, but even you're own scriptures prophecy it to be under the rule of ten nations still, yes?

There has never been a USA, or China, or Russia for the bloodlines, that's always been for our consumption!!

So even if Earth is reduced to ten nations and a one currency comes about, what is the difference?

Will you not still have to use that currency, as we do now, to still purchase your goods?

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


r u still trying to explain yourself... I get it you believe its all hocus pocus
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Re: Question for Mark-Of-The-Beastards. . .
I see you are all clear on your bible.
I am happy I am not a Christian.





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