Comet Elenin is a low mass object!

Then maybe we can breed the hate out of people like mcdicklicking you think?

I see you got another lover astro, just like i said schoolgirls on the playground! Punch's you and then run's off giggling!!

I apologise to Ray, wrong thread.
As for Da nose, you seem to smell badly. You yourself ARE the one with the brown nose. You're getting yourself a bad reputation, as Astrobutt's poodle.

mclinking

I hear you. And in principle I agree with a lot of what you say.

I consider myself an avowed, all-inclusive-skeptic. I don't extend my trust or faith towards anything I either haven't read about, or don't understand, or haven't seen or experienced myself. My "faith" is...hard-earned. I'm not much of a believer in, say, psychic-phenomenon- basically because I've never experienced it. But I don't shit on those who genuinely claim to actually have. I can only go by my own experience.

The veracity of my post you quoted was mostly my reaction to these ridiculous, unfound, never-proven allegations of "shilldom". It never fails to amaze me, how convinced people become that they're being "shilled" by "paid shills".

I don't believe that science knows everything. Can prove everything. And has the last word on everything. But SOME things CAN be decisively understood according to "science".

This "Killer-Elenin"-situation is unimaginably confounding for someone who is even remotely-educated, astronomy-wise.

I can't stress it enough.

It's surreal.

I literally can't BELIEVE people are...basically, falling for it.

I hope (HOPE) when October comes around and Elenin's making it way back out to the Oort Cloud (or whereever) A LOT of "Killer-Elenin"-ites will have learned a thing or 2.....(?)

And I mean when I say I don't think it's FAIR that fear-mongerers are taking advantage of people's ignorance. Most "Killer-Elenin"-believers, I bet you anything, had never even HEARD of a "brown dwarf" before all this.

Hence, HOW the fear-mongerers are able to sway them.

Meanwhile the first time I saw Elenin was being pimped as a "brown dwarf" I nearly fell over with astonishment.

It's important to counteract against the fear-mongerers. Because nothing good arises from watching people (with an agenda) making other people stupid.

Bumpity bump!

I hear ya. :)

I tend to get a bit "verbose". lol...this is how I unwind when I come home from work. I debunk "Killer-Elenin"-ideas and express my exasperation over the low-standards of paranoid individuals who believe anyone who disagrees with them is "working for the Feds"....

Believe it or not this is fun for me. :) It's kind of like a mental work-out. Keeps my writing-skills sharp. Kinda like playing chess, almost.

Except it's like, playing chess against someone who's never learned how to play chess (ie, how many "Killer-Elenin"-ites have never learned about astronomy)....

lol your the one that follow's him around calling him names in EVERY thread! Whatever bra it's all 4 fun.

Because i believe Astronut
and everyone should read it!

This was pinned..
At this moment this thread have 13,436 views...
The sad part..... Tomorrow you will see alot of threads about Elenin Doom, theories about Brown Dwarfs, and all kind of stuff....

People can read this thread..... but most of "them" will not going to learn

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Cunning plan -
brain fuk humans over generations, teach them the same old same old for years and years, get them to specialise in same old same old at institutions, give them certs and diplomas and stuff to reafirm they are experts and know all there is to know about their special field.
anybody come up with a new theory, the "experts" pull out their credentials and say no, you dont know, I do because I have a paper that says so and lots of others like them, with the paper will back them up and have done for hundreds of years.
It's like systemic putting blinkers on, the certified, diploma weilding, degree holding exerts are unable to look outside the square or entertain new information or possibilities, its in all areas of knowledge, medicine, astrology, physics, government, social engineering bla bla bla.
The disdain or disrespect the likes of these experts display towards the layman, is laughable and pitifull IMO.

There is alot to be said for an un manipulated mind !!!

Seems all the cleverness of this modern world is at a crumbling point.
If the foundations are unstable, good chance the house will fall down, dont matter how flash the appliances are or how much poisons in the air/ water etc.
Due to --- Experts ?!!!!

Right, because the brown dwarf jovian mass is being preceded by Elenin.

...which is whats really gonna be cracking you and about 5 billion others up soon; literally

of course not, because its easier to dismiss elenin and all the related issues by avoiding discussion of E.U.T. which is very relevant to the full context of Elenin.



And you'll be one of them soon once you realize what others are warning about that ELENIN is a cover-story and diversion for the brown dwarf thats bringing up the rear.

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Astrobum Poodle No 2
Thick as thieves.
'They huff and they puff...'
And love the sounds of their own voices.
And they go on and on and on and ON, rant for miles, bore you stiff.
Fucking walking text books.
Suitable cases for treatment, uptight psychopaths.
YOU'D KILL US IF YOU COULD, WOULDN'T YOU!

mclinking

mclinking

lol....I'm going to try to remember your username....I'm just curious if, in October when we're all waving "bye-bye" to harmless Elenin, you'll have the decency to come out in a thread and admit you were wrong...

I wonder....

Lots of you guys...are gonna have a whole lot of "fail" to explain.

I can actually speak for myself. Confidently and with skill.

Obviously you're threatened when confronted by more than one person who disagrees with you. From the name-calling to the snide insinuations, it's astonishing how transparent your inherent intimidation is. Almost makes me feel guilty in a weird way...

Really- "Astrobum"? "Poodle"?

Really, dude?

And didn't you say already in Terral's catastrophe-of-a-thread that you didn't even subscribe to these "Killer-Elenin"-ideas anyway....??????

What can you learn in this thread? its another theory from a hobby astronomer. worth to me like every other theory. he has better arguments. nothing else.

to me its still a comet 3-4km in size and we will see what happens when it comes close.

elenin :low mass object.


So are you suggesting that your calculations are a fact?
Or are they just theory?

Careful how you answer that Mr.Nut, your reputation is at stake here...

Confident with skill, shill?
Well, it's lost on me, mush. Stop pretending to be smart and take something for your verbal diarrhea. I'm interested to see if you're plaguing this forum romorrow which is a working day. I don't, have independent means, but know you shouldn't be here unless you are paid to be here. Let's face it, it's a full time job, isn't it, to be here to deal with decent honest people trying to get to the truth.

mclinking

@ mclinking,
You Sir, are ignorant.

Copy and paste from another forum.

[link to www.timetravelinstitute.com]


Nibiru around 23 times of the mass of earth and is a Terrestrial planet with 85% of its surface covered with water but has a fusion process within its core.

This process, occuring at a much lower level, is similar to our Sun. In our Sun, there is a smaller proportion heavy elements to hydrogen nuclei present within the core compared to Nibiru. This allows the fusion process to proceed at a rate where the energy produced overwhelms its mass dissipation rate, consequential there is a build up of energy, resulting in a lit stellar object. Within the Nibiru, the fusion process is contained to a very small area in the center core where the force of gravity provides sufficient compression of the hydrogen nuclei to fuse into other elements, most notably helium. The fusion process, dampened to a very slow burn by a larger proportion of heavy elements (mainly iron resulting in a power magnetic field) to hydrogen nuclei. Energy is released in a controlled manner and transferred to the surface. The energy originating from the Nibiru's core is absorbed by the magma flowing near it. This moves the magma to an extremely excited state; its lower density pushes the magma towards the surface. Immense fissures in the surface crust (mostly under the oceans) acts like pressure relief values, allows the magma to be exposed and interact with the surface environment. As the molten matter in the magma cools, it moves from an excited state down to a state of equilibrium a chemical process, and energy is released in the form of light and heat. In the case of light, the majority of is dispersed in wavelengths near the red end of the spectrum. The rate of heating of the crust is dependant upon the conductivity and thickness of the crust.

Orbit inclination (from ecliptic)- This differs depending on what point Nibiru is viewed. If outside the moderate particle density of this solar system then it approaches approximately 11 degrees below the ecliptic. Once the Anomaly encounters a certain point of particle density as it enters the solar system, it changes to a 32 degree approach.

Orbit eccentricity - Parabolic to Hyperbolic

Nibiru radius - 24,000km

Albedo - The surface of the it is mostly water therefore shares similar reflective properties to Earth’s oceans. However, it is shrouded with cosmic debris which affects incoming and outgoing light.

I'm not denying something out there is perturbing the sun, earth and other planets, it may be coincidental with elenin but based on the science presented i do not think it's elenin... its something else.

My bolts are fine thanks... but my nuts need a little adjusting

That's fucking rich. Astronut is on EVERY Elenin thread. He works so hard, I have my work cut out to counter his ego crap. It's bloody tiring! I could do with a rest, really, and it's made much worse by his fans, like you. But someone wisely advised, when Gastrofarce posts his attention-seeking stuff, to 'keep moving'.
Good advice and I shall follow it in future.
The same applies to you.

mclinking

My calculations are factual. I really don't care what you think of my reputation. I don't even care about the low rating of this thread, I know I'm right. This isn't about seeking approval, it's about exposing the truth.

Call me arrogant all you want, I really don't care, this fall everyone will see for themselves that I was right. I'm sure in their frustration they'll grasp at any straw they can find, any earthquake at all no matter how ordinary. But the doom everyone's hoping for will not come. I'll still be called a shill, of course, they'll say it was a "psy-op" to make me look trustworthy or whatever. They can say whatever they want, but even if they never admit it, they'll know deep down that I really did know what I was talking about.

How much are you being paid to follow me around and harass me? It must be a handsome sum of money if you do it to the point of exhaustion. Who's paying you? Who are you working for? You said it yourself though, you have your work cut out for you.

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This morning I noticed a change in my clocks. Could have happened last night--not sure. In short I have 3 battery operated clocks, one that runs on house current and 2 cell phones.

The 2 cell phones match time exactly and all the other clocks match each other exactly, but are 3 minutes behind the cell phones. All my clocks are always right on the money and match my cell phones exactly. Maybe nothing to do with your comet, but its worth noting. I'm in New England.

Don't worry Astronut...
They are not being paid...they are the worst class of "moran".... the one that is not even able to realize that is a "moran"......

For most of the people on this Forum, maybe you are the Bad guy, but for others, you are actually the good one...

I really apreciate your Science work......

This statement "This isn't about seeking approval, it's about exposing the truth." worth more than thousends words....

Keep working Astronut..... for the Truth, everything else doesn't matters

Couldn't agree more. Astronomers wouldn't be easily fooled by the Killer Comet part. Fear mongering must pay well, or it wouldnt be pushed so hard.

So Astro,

based on your calculations of Elenin's mass, would you be so kind as to let us know how fast Elenin will have to pass the sun in order to attain break away speed? I'm not a physicist but I know it is some measure of torque.

Also, have you had a chance to look at these pictures?

[link to www.astrosurf.com]