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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1459813 United States 07/12/2011 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) Yes, this is a fascinating story. I read the whole thing in NatGeo magazine. It is kinda annoying when someone continually bumps their own threads, but in this case it's merited; hence the pin, I guess. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1459813Anyone who makes even a cursory exploration into things like the Baghdad battery (conveniently disappeared during the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the looting of the Baghdad Museum) and other anthropological and technological anachronisms, has to realize that we simply don't know s**t about how humanity really developed on this planet. We're just starting to get a glimpse of how weird and ancient our history really is, and this is just one more (major) clue. like the aluminum breastplate in China --terra cotta army Do tell -- I don't know about that one? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 964953 United States 07/12/2011 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) Gobekli is just the start. I believe with better radar advancements we will begin to realize the last ice age buried a great deal of unknown, advanced human history. Quoting: eojsnrak 1335213this place -- the picture -- is explanation for human culture deplicted in this most graphic of threads i want to warn you to read the thread from the start-- [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] the 'advanced past' is mixed with the 'not so advanced past' in human history and herstory as well.... |
Dr Shroom User ID: 1464441 Vietnam 07/12/2011 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) Great post dude, have taken a real interest in neolithic culture and history, having lived a stones throw from Stonehenge for over a decade. As a side note there is a lot of evidence that there were henges on the site for thousands of years prior to the stone temple that currently occupies it. I do think the 'advanced humans' idea may be a little over the top...although simplistic now, agriculture and domestication are advanced concepts and their appearance ties in with the human species move away from hunter gatherer/ nomadic/ forest edge dweller...inspired, like most things - by our empathy, what separated us from the beasts: The care of elders, the worship of those who came before, storing food for the winter months. There is much familiar iconography in the stone work, pagan symbols since denounced by the Roman Church, or considered evil...the snakes for instance. My thought echoes that of Arthur C Clarke - the level of intelligence on the planet remains the same, regardless of population. Conversely a small population has massive intelligence...the second separator...empathy and intelligence. Much as the stone work is impressive, I can see many ways of doing it, even if I couldn't without some trial and error. As I mention above, there is evidence of wooden henges in Amesbury...NG say there is evidence of work beneath Gobekli Tepe...I suggest, like humans, these monuments evolved too. The universal tendency toward complexity exists within us and our manipulation of our world...infact intelligent manipulation may be an essential catalyst to universal law. |
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FUBAR (OP) User ID: 1393207 United States 07/12/2011 02:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) Great post dude, have taken a real interest in neolithic culture and history, having lived a stones throw from Stonehenge for over a decade. As a side note there is a lot of evidence that there were henges on the site for thousands of years prior to the stone temple that currently occupies it. Quoting: Dr ShroomI do think the 'advanced humans' idea may be a little over the top...although simplistic now, agriculture and domestication are advanced concepts and their appearance ties in with the human species move away from hunter gatherer/ nomadic/ forest edge dweller...inspired, like most things - by our empathy, what separated us from the beasts: The care of elders, the worship of those who came before, storing food for the winter months. There is much familiar iconography in the stone work, pagan symbols since denounced by the Roman Church, or considered evil...the snakes for instance. My thought echoes that of Arthur C Clarke - the level of intelligence on the planet remains the same, regardless of population. Conversely a small population has massive intelligence...the second separator...empathy and intelligence. Much as the stone work is impressive, I can see many ways of doing it, even if I couldn't without some trial and error. As I mention above, there is evidence of wooden henges in Amesbury...NG say there is evidence of work beneath Gobekli Tepe...I suggest, like humans, these monuments evolved too. The universal tendency toward complexity exists within us and our manipulation of our world...infact intelligent manipulation may be an essential catalyst to universal law. Just a man who has been humbled. Some days are pure hell. Others are to be appreciated. I'm finding my way with jesus. |
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Heretic_333 User ID: 1464456 United States 07/12/2011 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) FINALLY!! GOD I swear I want to commit suicide when I'm arguing with an anthropologist. makes it worse when they dont even know things like this!! Yall like stuff like this? Thread: "Everything you know is wrong" Genetic Engineering, Ancient/Futuristic/Megalithic Machines, Visitation, Proof & Reffs. If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
Heretic_333 User ID: 1464456 United States 07/12/2011 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) I also want to fuck history books in the ass. Thread: Ancient Canals Press Release MAJOR UPDATE!! Rewrite our origins!! [link to bbs.keyhole.com] link to GE forum post. We will win!! Its THEIR word against theirs. Last Edited by Heretic_333 on 07/12/2011 02:40 AM If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 964953 United States 07/12/2011 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) Quoting: Sugarelf all about the time frame, and the significance of current events.... sorry but -- Jerusalem, the one on the West Bank in Isreal, where the folks there be in somewhat of a fuss today over a flat piece of rock.... it is not the location of where Abra-ham offered his 'son' to 'God'.... the Abram in Genesis 12....that particular person and account occurred at Göbekli Tepe, and yes in the approx time frame mentioned in the op of 12,000 years ago.... |
Texas Uncensored User ID: 1464005 United States 07/12/2011 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) I take issue with the contention that these are temples. Every time a remnant of a building is found, it is claimed to be a temple. Imagine what these probably looked like. These were homes. Those tall stones were most likely support structures. Beams would have been positioned for strength, and probably some kind of tenting was secured over the top, or maybe a sod roof. Family groups would have stayed close together and added near structures to each other. I'm sure the last thing on the minds of these people would have been a temple. The pyramids were not temples either. **** PEACE **** UFO's @ [link to www.youtube.com] UFO photos & phenomena @ [link to www.picasaweb.google.com] MY GLP VIDEO CHANNEL * [link to video.godlikeproductions.com] [link to www.futurequake.bravehost.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 964953 United States 07/12/2011 03:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) Etymology Abraham first appears as 'Abram' in the book of Genesis until he is renamed by 'God' in Genesis 17:5 another possibility is that the first element should be abr-, which means "chief", but this yields a meaningless second element, "-aham". David Rohl suggests the name comes from the Akkadian "the father loves",but scholars would prefer an origin based on Hebrew. [link to en.wikipedia.org] "the father loves"....all about cutting the meat, so-to-speak....Abraham was a Chalaf, and founder of Göbekli Tepe and 'course -- Moses years later brought the settlement down, so-to-speak, with the 'parting of the red see' -- the red colored archive or history accounts 'tablets' kept by the rulers of Göbekli Tepe -- their laws were literally a red see |
SevenThunders User ID: 1202063 United States 07/12/2011 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) The Bible makes it clear that there were super advanced pre-flood civilizations. These civilizations were pure evil, being led by the Nephilim, the sons of demons. They are currently trying to repeat the same mistake as Jesus prophesied they would. At the highest levels humans are once again trafficking with demons. It will end just as badly. With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible |
FUBAR (OP) User ID: 1393207 United States 07/12/2011 03:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) I take issue with the contention that these are temples. Every time a remnant of a building is found, it is claimed to be a temple. Quoting: Texas UncensoredImagine what these probably looked like. These were homes. Those tall stones were most likely support structures. Beams would have been positioned for strength, and probably some kind of tenting was secured over the top, or maybe a sod roof. Family groups would have stayed close together and added near structures to each other. I'm sure the last thing on the minds of these people would have been a temple. The pyramids were not temples either. The interesting thing about these was how they were buried.They were lovingly built then covered in a layer of sand. I agree that we always us the "temple" default.We will hopefully find out one day what these were used for,so it can help us return to a simpler way of living. Just a man who has been humbled. Some days are pure hell. Others are to be appreciated. I'm finding my way with jesus. |
fërú. User ID: 1464499 Mexico 07/12/2011 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) "The Birth of Religion We used to think agriculture gave rise to cities and later to writing, art, and religion. Now the world’s oldest temple suggests the urge to worship sparked civilization.' this is a clear proof of anunnaki or extraterrestrial massive manipulation with religion until our days. Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 964953 United States 07/12/2011 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) I also want to fuck history books in the ass. Quoting: Heretic_333well -- when you go back to the 'why and how' of events you soon realize that 'blame' or 'retribution' becomes somewhat of a abstract concept.... because many of our ancestors were not out to 'get us' with 'miscalculations' of historical events and especially -- their actual locations the 'payback' back won't take one very far back |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1461805 United States 07/12/2011 03:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) The Bible makes it clear that there were super advanced pre-flood civilizations. These civilizations were pure evil, being led by the Nephilim, the sons of demons. Quoting: SevenThundersThey are currently trying to repeat the same mistake as Jesus prophesied they would. At the highest levels humans are once again trafficking with demons. It will end just as badly. show me the Bible quotation |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1377390 Netherlands 07/12/2011 03:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) I"m sure there have been great civilizations before us. But it is hard to realize they have been there and gone, almost without a trace. Makes you wonder when its our turn..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 964953 United States 07/12/2011 03:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) Moses deciphered the 'truth' about the origin of Göbekli Tepe, in the ancient records kept at Göbekli Tepe.... concept of 'promised land' 4 + 1 many centuries later the remnents of Moses ended up in hands of an ancient egyptian pharoh -- who found the location of the "promised land" -- and sent out groups of people to find it.... :shoe: and proven by the decendants of those sent, their return to Egypt some centuries later.... :shesonqII: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310161 Iceland 07/12/2011 04:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) Göbekli Tepe is a baby compared to ancient South African ruins that have been dated as up to 200.000 years old! [link to viewzone2.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1464530 Germany 07/12/2011 04:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) I find the biggest mystery to be this: Bewilderingly, the people at Göbekli Tepe got steadily worse at temple building. The earliest rings are the biggest and most sophisticated, technically and artistically. As time went by, the pillars became smaller, simpler, and were mounted with less and less care. Finally the effort seems to have petered out altogether by 8200 B.C. Göbekli Tepe was all fall and no rise. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 964953 United States 07/12/2011 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) I didn't know about this and I think its very interesting. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1377390I"m sure there have been great civilizations before us. But it is hard to realize they have been there and gone, almost without a trace. Makes you wonder when its our turn..... internet throws a 'wild card' into the 'turn' scenario.... the infancy of the age of the internet....that is the current day -- we are in the infancy, of the 'digital' age.... the modern day records, our history, will be as black and white for the future generations, the unborn, as the nose on their faces time wise, the human race, is in the beginning of one very long ending -- that would be the perspective of those living say two hundred years from now those living today are experiencing the 'quick ending' sensation, when it comes to certain revelations about human history and where we are as living humans -- and the release of burdens some of the ones do not want released |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 964953 United States 07/12/2011 04:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) the modern day records, our history, will be as black and white for the future generations, the unborn, as the nose on their faces Quoting: Sugarelfparadox.... there are always two ;) :tritoneparadox: |
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sumarian User ID: 1182801 Australia 07/12/2011 04:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) Gobekli Tepe shows us that there would have to be at least 1500 years of some sort of civilization, before the temples were built to be able to produce something like this. Add that to 11,600 and it's 13,100 years ago. So thats a good start then, that's pre flood. And that's a fuck you to the history books. Man fears time But time fears the pyramids |
Cryin Wont Help Ya User ID: 1039548 United States 07/12/2011 04:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Göbekli Tepe, finally getting the recognition it deserves.11,600 year old temples(Fuck you history books) Everyone here already knows this. It's not news. Stop bumping your own thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185559It's finally reaching the MSM and not everyone knows this. I will bump my own thread as much as i want. You go, Fubar! I didn't know this. Not everybody is omniscient. |
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