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YOU NEVER WANT TO ATTRIBUTE ANYTHING TO BLACK PEOPLE - THAT'S WHAT THE FUCK RACISM IS!!!

THEN YOU WANT TO SIT AROUND AND TALK ABOUT WHAT BLACK PEOPLE NEVER DID -- AND TAKE ALL THE HISTORY IN THE WORLD -- THAT ORIGINATED IN OUR FUCKING HOMELAND AND ATTRIBUTE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE OR FUCKING ALIENS!!
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It's not racism if it's true. Arabs = not black thus Arabic culture is not black. Egyptians = not black, thus Egyptian culture is not black. I know you're going to come back at me with "EGYPTIANS WERE BLACK" but no , I'm sorry, they were not. The modern Coptic Christians of Egypt are the purest Egyptians living today, they can trace their ancestry back to Ancient Egypt. They are the true Egyptians.

Blacks flourish best in small hunter/gatherer societies. They evolved that way, the rest of us evolved differently from you because of geological conditions (and a little help from the Neanderthal genes). There's no shame in this whatsoever, it's just the way it is.
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THERE ARE MILLIONS OF BLACK ARABS YOU FOOL!!!!
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Paintings and scrolls from antiquity would seem to disagree with you s226
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also too stupid to know that 'arabic' is a language - not a race...a language that is spoken by millions of negroes - since the times of the Moors... they spoke arabic amongst the many other languages in Timbuktu -
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Arabic is a language spoken by the Arabs. Also, the Moors were not black Africans. People always take this out of context because Moor means "black" they think that they were black African. This isn't the case.

Black referred to their hair color. Even to this day some Europeans identify people as "black" not because they are Negroids, but because of their hair color. The two best example of this are: black Irish and the people of the Caucus regions who are called "black people" by the Russians.
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'Black Arabs'
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I am going to take a guess and said this will be disproved by some other group. They have already said Neanderthals were to different from human, to bred with them.

Just like a mule which is a mix of a horse and donkey, the off spring can't bare, other off springs.

Having one gene that in alike, doesn't make their studies fact.

When I here these studies I think of all the other animals that have genes in common with humans.

The only way this could be true, is that the Neanderthals are really a race of people that inbred with another race.
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I think I should interrupt the bickering here and point you this this thread ...

************* WE ARE ALL THE SAME!!!! ************* NOT

Thread: ************* WE ARE ALL THE SAME!!!! *************

It shows you what the other peoples of the world get up to in their own lands ...

SHOCKING !!!!
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also too stupid to know that 'arabic' is a language - not a race...a language that is spoken by millions of negroes - since the times of the Moors... they spoke arabic amongst the many other languages in Timbuktu -
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Arabic is a language spoken by the Arabs. Also, the Moors were not black Africans. People always take this out of context because Moor means "black" they think that they were black African. This isn't the case.

Black referred to their hair color. Even to this day some Europeans identify people as "black" not because they are Negroids, but because of their hair color. The two best example of this are: black Irish and the people of the Caucus regions who are called "black people" by the Russians.
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'Black Arabs'
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posting a grainy modern day video is your proof? Should I post a video of Lil' Wayne and claim that the Native Americans were black Africans??
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The Original Black African Arabs of Arabia (Part 1)

By:

Ogu Eji-Ofo Annu

“If one understood Arab Culture it is immediately apparent that Blackness is highly cherished conceptually and in reality. In Arab culture the best camel is the black one the best Fig is the blackest, the best eyes are black, the best olives are black, the most beautiful rock is the Black Kaaba. Any Bedouin Arab that is asked his color, would undoubtedly respond Asmar or Aswad which means Black/Brown. No Arab ever describes himself as Bidan which means White. ”

Who are the Arabs:

In today’s world, one is seducively led by the racist western media to believe that the Arabs of Arabia and Africa represent a peculiar phenotype with all other non-conforming types being somewhat alien to that concept. In this way they impose a certain central Asian phenotype as the “racial Arab” and the almost ubiquitous Black Arabs of the modern times as either descendants of slaves or immigrants.

In this way, they attempt to disconnect the linkage between the ancient Kushitic Black Arabs globally celebrated in antiquity (now reclassified as some “caucasoid” “semitics”) and their Kushitic African roots. This article is therefore another blow against the citadel of falsehood erected by the western intelligensia used to discourage, dis-empower dissipate and diffuse the energy of the Black nation. Again one notes and deplores the unrelenting effort by non-continental peoples to appropriate the history and the achievements of brilliant Black African luminaries as their own.

Much confusion attends the word “Arabs”, because it has not always been used with rigorous consistency. Moreover, in the wake of the global dominance of the Arab culture and Islamic political power in the between 7AD and 14 AD, the number of Arabs increased exponentially by the addition of many non Arab Arabized people, because acculturation and assimilation were deliberately fostered by state policy.

Today, the word Arabs does not strictly imply or designate any known racial category of people. It is an ethnic identification that has several aspect including linguistics, politics and genealogy. Its meaning is nuanced depending on the particular context.

As an ethnic identity, an Arab is someone who considers himself to be an Arab regardless of racial or ethnic origin. This definition encompasses many Africans, Indians, Indonesians and Chinese who describe themselves as Arabs.

Usually the first language of persons who claim to be Arab is Arabic. There are over 200 million people worldwide whose first language is Arabic. Again these peoples spread over a large portion of the globe spanning from central Africa to central Asia. More than 70% of the so-called Arabs in the world live physically in Africa.

Given that the Arabic language is a Semitic language, which forms part of the Afro-Asia language family, which originated in Africa, one can rightly view Arabic as an African language. Of the official languages of the African Union that include English, French, Spanish, Portugese, and Arabic, Arabic language is the only Afro-Asiatic language spoken. The rest are Euro-Aryan English, French, Spanish and Portugese. See Uwechia Jide; Hamito-Semitic Africa: [link to www.africaresource.com] See also Peter T. Daniels, Origin of Semitic: [link to listhost.uchicago.edu (secure)]

Viewed from a political perspective, someone who is a resident or citizen of a country where Arabic is an official or national language, or is a member of the Arab League or is part of the wider Arab world is an Arab. This definition would cover more than 300 million people. Under this definition, there are more Arabs in Africa than anywhere else in the universe. Most of those Arabs that live in Africa are Black Africans, from Chad, Niger, Nigeria, Sudan, Somalia, Eriteria, Kenya Tanzannia, Egypt, Algeria and Morocco. Many of them trace their ancestry to Yemen.

On its formation in 1946, the Arab League defined an “Arab” as: “… a person whose language is Arabic, who lives in an Arabic speaking country, who is in sympathy with the aspirations of the Arabic speaking peoples.” The Arab League’s definition of an Arab leaves no room for any racialist twist on the meaning of Arab and Arabic. These words simply denote ethnicity. Yet again, based upon this definition, there are more Black Africans who have a legitimate claim to the Arabic ethnicity than anywhere else in the world.

According to Habib Hassan Touma (1996, p.xviii), “An ‘Arab’, in the modern sense of the word, is one who is a national of an Arab state, has command of the Arabic language, and possesses a fundamental knowledge of Arabian tradition, that is, of the manners, customs, and political and social systems of the culture.” Here again, one finds that there more Black African Arabs based on this definiton than any other regional phenotype that lays claim to that heritage.

A hadith related by Ibn Asakir in Tarak Dimashq and attributed to Islam’s prophet Muhammad states that :”Being an Arab is not because of your father or mother, but being an Arab is on account of your tongue. Whoever learns Arabic is an Arab.” < [link to www.islamtoday.com]

Genealogically, an Arab is someone who can trace his or her ancestry back to the original inhabitants of the Arabian Peninsula. Different groups estimate the relative importance of these factors differently. Most people who consider themselves Arabs do so on the basis of the overlap of the political and linguistic definitions.

Since there are so many different phenotypes all considered as Arabs, the query posed and answered by this paper then is: who are the original Arabs? Were they Black or White or Black and White? It is posited here that the original Arabs were Black African Kushites from the Nile valley who had settled in southwest Asia in the Arabian Peninsula in ancient times.

They were Kushitic-Ethiopians, speakers of an African prototypical Semitic language who had left from an area falling between the regions bordered by modern day Dafur in Sudan and Asmara in Eriteria. They took their African genes, their African intelligence, their African culture, their African language and their African love and built the ancient and the modern civilization known as Arabic civilization. In the paragraphs that follow, one is gradually introduced to the original Black Kushitic Arabs. See Uwechia Jide; Hamito-Semitic Africa: [link to www.africaresource.com] See also Peter T. Daniels, Origin of Semitic: [link to listhost.uchicago.edu (secure)]

Black Arabs and Classical Literature

Up to a century and a half ago our information concerning Arabia was based mainly on Greek and Latin writers, such as Herodotus (Histories), Diodorus Siculus (Bibliotheca Historica), Strabo (Geography, Book XVI), Pliny, Ptolemy, and others. All those writers reported without any equivocation that Arabia was part of the ancient Kingdom of Ethiopia Kush, extending from Africa into Solomon Islands.

Later Arabic writers and geographers, such as Hamadani’s “Arabian Peninsula,” Bekri and Yaqut’s geographical and historical dictionaries, and similar works also provide extremely valuable. However, those works are to be treated with caution because they contain fabulous and legendary traditions, partly based on native popular legends and partly on Jewish and rabbinical fancies.

From the available literature and authorities, historians have broadly divided Arabs into three classes according to their different great ancestors. They are:

The original Black Arabs who were supposedly punished by destruction and deluge because, as legend has it in the book of Quran, they disobeyed their Prophets and flouted God’s instructions; they were: Ad, Thamud, Tasam, Jadeis, Imru.

The classical Black Arabs, who are believed to have descended from Yaarub ibn Yashjub ibn Ghatan and thus called Ghataniyun. They had lived in the Yemen; they included a number of tribes and sub-tribes, two of which became historically prominent viz., Himyar and Kahlan (al’arab al’ariba).

The Arabized Arabs: These tribes immigrated into Arabia from different sections of central Asia. Many of them intermarried with the desert dwelling nomadic blemmyes – the Bejas (original Bedouin Arabs) and the Somali, Kenyan and Ethiopian tribes of Africa. Their mix -blood children who adopted a mingled form of their parents cultures are known as the Arabized Arabs (al ‘arab al musta ‘riba).

Today, upon the dictates of the western intelligensia, this banch is the so-called prototypical Arabs. They are the picture boys of the white-semitic¯ theories which seek to claim that some white or at the very least some off-white people were and remain the original and only Arabians. By employing vague and non-categorical semantics with words like “Semites,” ‘Hamites,” Ishmaelites,” “caucasiods,” the western negro-phobic intelligensia and educational establishment seek to erase every trace of black Africa from Arabia.

Nonetheless, if one understood Arab culture it is immediately apparent that Blackness is highly cherished conceptually and in reality. In Arab culture the best camel is the black one the best fig is the blackest, the best eyes are black, the best olives are black, the most beautiful rock is the Black Kaaba. Any Bedouin Arab that is asked his color, would undoubtedly respond Asmar or Aswad which means Black/Brown. No Arab ever describes himself as Bidan which means White because they all understand instinctively if not consciously that Africa is their root.

The Black Arabs as described in “Josephus’ Antiquities of the Jews”:

Josephus was a soldier, priest and scholar who was born in 37 AD. His written works are seminal in western history and for many centuries were some of the most widely read and influential books of the western civilization. In the paragraphs that immediately follow, excerpts of Josephus’ commentary on the Arabs and near easterners who were contemporary to his period are reproduced. See The Catholich Encyclopadia < [link to www.newadvent.org]

According to Josephus:

“The children of Ham (note: Ham is the archetypal ancestor Black people according to Hebrew, Arabic and Jewish legends) possessed the land from Syria and Amanus (modern Jordan), and the mountains of Libanus (modern Lebanon); seizing upon all that was on its sea-coasts, and as far as the ocean, and keeping it as their own.

Some indeed of its names are utterly vanished away; others of them being changed, and another sound given them, are hardly to be discovered; yet a few there are which have kept their denominations entire. For of the four sons of Ham, time has not at all hurt the name of Chus; for the Ethiopians, over whom he reigned, are even at this day, both by themselves and by all men in Asia, called Chusites. The memory also of the Mesraites is preserved in their name; for all we who inhabit this country [of Judea] called Egypt Mestre, and the Egyptians Mestreans.

Phut also was the founder of Libya, and called the inhabitants Phutites, from himself: there is also a river in the country of Moors which bears that name; whence it is that we may see the greatest part of the Grecian historiographers mention that river and the adjoining country by the apellation of Phut: but the name it has now has been by change given it from one of the sons of Mesraim, who was called Lybyos. We will inform you presently what has been the occasion why it has been called Africa also.

Canaan, the fourth son of Ham, inhabited the country now called Judea, and called it from his own name Canaan. The children of these [four] were these: Sabas, who founded the Sabeans (Editor’s note: the Black Arabs, the Yemenites,); Evilas, who founded the Evileans, who are called Getuli; Sabathes founded the Sabathens (Editors note: the Black Hadramutians, Sabatha was the ancient capital of Hadramut), they are now called by the Greeks Astaborans; Sabactas settled the Sabactens (note: the Black Southern Arabians also called Omanites); and Ragmus the Ragmeans (note: a Black Arab section of south western Arabia mentioned frequently in Sabean inscriptions); and he had two sons, the one of whom, Judadas, settled the Judadeans, a nation of the western Ethiopians, and left them his name; as did Sabas to the Sabeans: but Nimrod, the son of Chus (the Black ancient Iraqi Arabs), staid and tyrannized at Babylon, as we have already informed you.

Now all the children of Mesraim, being eight in number, possessed the country from Gaza to Egypt, though it retained the name of one only, the Philistim; for the Greeks call part of that country Palestine. As for the rest, Ludieim, and Enemim, and Labim, who alone inhabited in Libya, and called the country from himself, Nedim, and Phethrosim, and Chesloim, and Cephthorim, we know nothing of them besides their names; for the Ethiopic war which we shall describe hereafter, was the cause that those cities were overthrown. The sons of Canaan were these: Sidonius, who also built a city of the same name; it is called by the Greeks Sidon.”
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also too stupid to know that 'arabic' is a language - not a race...a language that is spoken by millions of negroes - since the times of the Moors... they spoke arabic amongst the many other languages in Timbuktu -
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Arabic is a language spoken by the Arabs. Also, the Moors were not black Africans. People always take this out of context because Moor means "black" they think that they were black African. This isn't the case.

Black referred to their hair color. Even to this day some Europeans identify people as "black" not because they are Negroids, but because of their hair color. The two best example of this are: black Irish and the people of the Caucus regions who are called "black people" by the Russians.
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'Black Arabs'
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black people like islam bcuz they can use it as a tool.
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when the new world order ramps up all those religions are going under.
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The Original Black African Arabs of Arabia (Part 1)

By:

Ogu Eji-Ofo Annu

“If one understood Arab Culture it is immediately apparent that Blackness is highly cherished conceptually and in reality. In Arab culture the best camel is the black one the best Fig is the blackest, the best eyes are black, the best olives are black, the most beautiful rock is the Black Kaaba. Any Bedouin Arab that is asked his color, would undoubtedly respond Asmar or Aswad which means Black/Brown. No Arab ever describes himself as Bidan which means White. ”

Who are the Arabs:

In today’s world, one is seducively led by the racist western media to believe that the Arabs of Arabia and Africa represent a peculiar phenotype with all other non-conforming types being somewhat alien to that concept. In this way they impose a certain central Asian phenotype as the “racial Arab” and the almost ubiquitous Black Arabs of the modern times as either descendants of slaves or immigrants.

In this way, they attempt to disconnect the linkage between the ancient Kushitic Black Arabs globally celebrated in antiquity (now reclassified as some “caucasoid” “semitics”) and their Kushitic African roots. This article is therefore another blow against the citadel of falsehood erected by the western intelligensia used to discourage, dis-empower dissipate and diffuse the energy of the Black nation. Again one notes and deplores the unrelenting effort by non-continental peoples to appropriate the history and the achievements of brilliant Black African luminaries as their own.

Much confusion attends the word “Arabs”, because it has not always been used with rigorous consistency. Moreover, in the wake of the global dominance of the Arab culture and Islamic political power in the between 7AD and 14 AD, the number of Arabs increased exponentially by the addition of many non Arab Arabized people, because acculturation and assimilation were deliberately fostered by state policy.

Today, the word Arabs does not strictly imply or designate any known racial category of people. It is an ethnic identification that has several aspect including linguistics, politics and genealogy. Its meaning is nuanced depending on the particular context.

As an ethnic identity, an Arab is someone who considers himself to be an Arab regardless of racial or ethnic origin. This definition encompasses many Africans, Indians, Indonesians and Chinese who describe themselves as Arabs.

Usually the first language of persons who claim to be Arab is Arabic. There are over 200 million people worldwide whose first language is Arabic. Again these peoples spread over a large portion of the globe spanning from central Africa to central Asia. More than 70% of the so-called Arabs in the world live physically in Africa.

Given that the Arabic language is a Semitic language, which forms part of the Afro-Asia language family, which originated in Africa, one can rightly view Arabic as an African language. Of the official languages of the African Union that include English, French, Spanish, Portugese, and Arabic, Arabic language is the only Afro-Asiatic language spoken. The rest are Euro-Aryan English, French, Spanish and Portugese. See Uwechia Jide; Hamito-Semitic Africa: [link to www.africaresource.com] See also Peter T. Daniels, Origin of Semitic: [link to listhost.uchicago.edu (secure)]

Viewed from a political perspective, someone who is a resident or citizen of a country where Arabic is an official or national language, or is a member of the Arab League or is part of the wider Arab world is an Arab. This definition would cover more than 300 million people. Under this definition, there are more Arabs in Africa than anywhere else in the universe. Most of those Arabs that live in Africa are Black Africans, from Chad, Niger, Nigeria, Sudan, Somalia, Eriteria, Kenya Tanzannia, Egypt, Algeria and Morocco. Many of them trace their ancestry to Yemen.

On its formation in 1946, the Arab League defined an “Arab” as: “… a person whose language is Arabic, who lives in an Arabic speaking country, who is in sympathy with the aspirations of the Arabic speaking peoples.” The Arab League’s definition of an Arab leaves no room for any racialist twist on the meaning of Arab and Arabic. These words simply denote ethnicity. Yet again, based upon this definition, there are more Black Africans who have a legitimate claim to the Arabic ethnicity than anywhere else in the world.

According to Habib Hassan Touma (1996, p.xviii), “An ‘Arab’, in the modern sense of the word, is one who is a national of an Arab state, has command of the Arabic language, and possesses a fundamental knowledge of Arabian tradition, that is, of the manners, customs, and political and social systems of the culture.” Here again, one finds that there more Black African Arabs based on this definiton than any other regional phenotype that lays claim to that heritage.

A hadith related by Ibn Asakir in Tarak Dimashq and attributed to Islam’s prophet Muhammad states that :”Being an Arab is not because of your father or mother, but being an Arab is on account of your tongue. Whoever learns Arabic is an Arab.” < [link to www.islamtoday.com]

Genealogically, an Arab is someone who can trace his or her ancestry back to the original inhabitants of the Arabian Peninsula. Different groups estimate the relative importance of these factors differently. Most people who consider themselves Arabs do so on the basis of the overlap of the political and linguistic definitions.

Since there are so many different phenotypes all considered as Arabs, the query posed and answered by this paper then is: who are the original Arabs? Were they Black or White or Black and White? It is posited here that the original Arabs were Black African Kushites from the Nile valley who had settled in southwest Asia in the Arabian Peninsula in ancient times.

They were Kushitic-Ethiopians, speakers of an African prototypical Semitic language who had left from an area falling between the regions bordered by modern day Dafur in Sudan and Asmara in Eriteria. They took their African genes, their African intelligence, their African culture, their African language and their African love and built the ancient and the modern civilization known as Arabic civilization. In the paragraphs that follow, one is gradually introduced to the original Black Kushitic Arabs. See Uwechia Jide; Hamito-Semitic Africa: [link to www.africaresource.com] See also Peter T. Daniels, Origin of Semitic: [link to listhost.uchicago.edu (secure)]

Black Arabs and Classical Literature

Up to a century and a half ago our information concerning Arabia was based mainly on Greek and Latin writers, such as Herodotus (Histories), Diodorus Siculus (Bibliotheca Historica), Strabo (Geography, Book XVI), Pliny, Ptolemy, and others. All those writers reported without any equivocation that Arabia was part of the ancient Kingdom of Ethiopia Kush, extending from Africa into Solomon Islands.

Later Arabic writers and geographers, such as Hamadani’s “Arabian Peninsula,” Bekri and Yaqut’s geographical and historical dictionaries, and similar works also provide extremely valuable. However, those works are to be treated with caution because they contain fabulous and legendary traditions, partly based on native popular legends and partly on Jewish and rabbinical fancies.

From the available literature and authorities, historians have broadly divided Arabs into three classes according to their different great ancestors. They are:

The original Black Arabs who were supposedly punished by destruction and deluge because, as legend has it in the book of Quran, they disobeyed their Prophets and flouted God’s instructions; they were: Ad, Thamud, Tasam, Jadeis, Imru.

The classical Black Arabs, who are believed to have descended from Yaarub ibn Yashjub ibn Ghatan and thus called Ghataniyun. They had lived in the Yemen; they included a number of tribes and sub-tribes, two of which became historically prominent viz., Himyar and Kahlan (al’arab al’ariba).

The Arabized Arabs: These tribes immigrated into Arabia from different sections of central Asia. Many of them intermarried with the desert dwelling nomadic blemmyes – the Bejas (original Bedouin Arabs) and the Somali, Kenyan and Ethiopian tribes of Africa. Their mix -blood children who adopted a mingled form of their parents cultures are known as the Arabized Arabs (al ‘arab al musta ‘riba).

Today, upon the dictates of the western intelligensia, this banch is the so-called prototypical Arabs. They are the picture boys of the white-semitic¯ theories which seek to claim that some white or at the very least some off-white people were and remain the original and only Arabians. By employing vague and non-categorical semantics with words like “Semites,” ‘Hamites,” Ishmaelites,” “caucasiods,” the western negro-phobic intelligensia and educational establishment seek to erase every trace of black Africa from Arabia.

Nonetheless, if one understood Arab culture it is immediately apparent that Blackness is highly cherished conceptually and in reality. In Arab culture the best camel is the black one the best fig is the blackest, the best eyes are black, the best olives are black, the most beautiful rock is the Black Kaaba. Any Bedouin Arab that is asked his color, would undoubtedly respond Asmar or Aswad which means Black/Brown. No Arab ever describes himself as Bidan which means White because they all understand instinctively if not consciously that Africa is their root.

The Black Arabs as described in “Josephus’ Antiquities of the Jews”:

Josephus was a soldier, priest and scholar who was born in 37 AD. His written works are seminal in western history and for many centuries were some of the most widely read and influential books of the western civilization. In the paragraphs that immediately follow, excerpts of Josephus’ commentary on the Arabs and near easterners who were contemporary to his period are reproduced. See The Catholich Encyclopadia < [link to www.newadvent.org]

According to Josephus:

“The children of Ham (note: Ham is the archetypal ancestor Black people according to Hebrew, Arabic and Jewish legends) possessed the land from Syria and Amanus (modern Jordan), and the mountains of Libanus (modern Lebanon); seizing upon all that was on its sea-coasts, and as far as the ocean, and keeping it as their own.

Some indeed of its names are utterly vanished away; others of them being changed, and another sound given them, are hardly to be discovered; yet a few there are which have kept their denominations entire. For of the four sons of Ham, time has not at all hurt the name of Chus; for the Ethiopians, over whom he reigned, are even at this day, both by themselves and by all men in Asia, called Chusites. The memory also of the Mesraites is preserved in their name; for all we who inhabit this country [of Judea] called Egypt Mestre, and the Egyptians Mestreans.

Phut also was the founder of Libya, and called the inhabitants Phutites, from himself: there is also a river in the country of Moors which bears that name; whence it is that we may see the greatest part of the Grecian historiographers mention that river and the adjoining country by the apellation of Phut: but the name it has now has been by change given it from one of the sons of Mesraim, who was called Lybyos. We will inform you presently what has been the occasion why it has been called Africa also.

Canaan, the fourth son of Ham, inhabited the country now called Judea, and called it from his own name Canaan. The children of these [four] were these: Sabas, who founded the Sabeans (Editor’s note: the Black Arabs, the Yemenites,); Evilas, who founded the Evileans, who are called Getuli; Sabathes founded the Sabathens (Editors note: the Black Hadramutians, Sabatha was the ancient capital of Hadramut), they are now called by the Greeks Astaborans; Sabactas settled the Sabactens (note: the Black Southern Arabians also called Omanites); and Ragmus the Ragmeans (note: a Black Arab section of south western Arabia mentioned frequently in Sabean inscriptions); and he had two sons, the one of whom, Judadas, settled the Judadeans, a nation of the western Ethiopians, and left them his name; as did Sabas to the Sabeans: but Nimrod, the son of Chus (the Black ancient Iraqi Arabs), staid and tyrannized at Babylon, as we have already informed you.

Now all the children of Mesraim, being eight in number, possessed the country from Gaza to Egypt, though it retained the name of one only, the Philistim; for the Greeks call part of that country Palestine. As for the rest, Ludieim, and Enemim, and Labim, who alone inhabited in Libya, and called the country from himself, Nedim, and Phethrosim, and Chesloim, and Cephthorim, we know nothing of them besides their names; for the Ethiopic war which we shall describe hereafter, was the cause that those cities were overthrown. The sons of Canaan were these: Sidonius, who also built a city of the same name; it is called by the Greeks Sidon.”
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Afro-centric bullshit is not evidence and never will be iamwith
I also never claimed the Arabs were "white" so I don't see how this is relevanttounge You do understand that race is determined by skull structure do you not? Arabs, Northern Africans, Middle Easterners, Persians, Europeans = Caucasians. Only Europeans ,however, are considered "white"
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Meh. If a being can communicate with me and express his own ideas, he's a person. If his sister can bear me children, he's a human. peace
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Meh. If a being can communicate with me and express his own ideas, he's a person. If his sister can bear me children, he's a human. peace
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thats right they're human no ones saying they're not.
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they embrace the animal within.
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they embrace the animal within.
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the animal instinxt
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now what would happen say if i were to embrace my animal instinxt ?i think u know.this is about being civilised to your nieghbors and other humans they dont.
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I am going to take a guess and said this will be disproved by some other group. They have already said Neanderthals were to different from human, to bred with them.

Just like a mule which is a mix of a horse and donkey, the off spring can't bare, other off springs.

Having one gene that in alike, doesn't make their studies fact.

When I here these studies I think of all the other animals that have genes in common with humans.

The only way this could be true, is that the Neanderthals are really a race of people that inbred with another race.
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No, this info has actually been around for many years. They just don't like to publicize it much because free thinkers will take this info and combine it with other info to realize that blacks are genetically inferior.

This is something our PC culture and intellectual elite will not allow.
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Meh. If a being can communicate with me and express his own ideas, he's a person. If his sister can bear me children, he's a human. peace
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Wrong.

Take the Papuan people - some of the dumbest people on planet earth. About 4-6% of their DNA comes from this ancient species of homo:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You've been conditioned to think of these people, and blacks, as human when really they are simply related to us. Many species can breed and produce fertile offspring - the homo offshoots are no exception.

There are fundamental differences between us that can't be overcome and we've been paying a steep price in the attempt.
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I am going to take a guess and said this will be disproved by some other group. They have already said Neanderthals were to different from human, to bred with them.

Just like a mule which is a mix of a horse and donkey, the off spring can't bare, other off springs.

Having one gene that in alike, doesn't make their studies fact.

When I here these studies I think of all the other animals that have genes in common with humans.

The only way this could be true, is that the Neanderthals are really a race of people that inbred with another race.
 Quoting: Daughter


No, this info has actually been around for many years. They just don't like to publicize it much because free thinkers will take this info and combine it with other info to realize that blacks are genetically inferior.

This is something our PC culture and intellectual elite will not allow.
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They're not genetically inferior, just different. However, I agree that it's completely ridiculous that so many blacks are trying to take credit for other civilizations. They see the word "black" written in any text and take it completely out of context or see any paintings were the subject's skin color is darker than your average Norther European and suddenly it's: "THESE PEOPLE WERE BLACK AFRICANS"
"Wasn't it a millionaire who said 'imagine no possessions'"

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just bcuz women can have babies from blacks dont mean they're the same cuz there not.and like i said im not a racist.im talking about animal behavours and what not and using white women.
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I am going to take a guess and said this will be disproved by some other group. They have already said Neanderthals were to different from human, to bred with them.

Just like a mule which is a mix of a horse and donkey, the off spring can't bare, other off springs.

Having one gene that in alike, doesn't make their studies fact.

When I here these studies I think of all the other animals that have genes in common with humans.

The only way this could be true, is that the Neanderthals are really a race of people that inbred with another race.
 Quoting: Daughter


No, this info has actually been around for many years. They just don't like to publicize it much because free thinkers will take this info and combine it with other info to realize that blacks are genetically inferior.

This is something our PC culture and intellectual elite will not allow.
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They're not genetically inferior, just different. However, I agree that it's completely ridiculous that so many blacks are trying to take credit for other civilizations. They see the word "black" written in any text and take it completely out of context or see any paintings were the subject's skin color is darker than your average Norther European and suddenly it's: "THESE PEOPLE WERE BLACK AFRICANS"
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From a human point of view they are inferior:

1) Smaller brains; less intelligent
2) More violent
3) Poor swimmers

Sure, they are good runners, and feel no guilt when lying, thieving, murdering and all the other shit they do, but I wouldn't consider that a positive. They are a sociopathic species.
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Whites like neanderthals will be nearly eradicated in 100 yrs so what are we debating here? Natural selection works to a tee. Survival of the fittest will take over and the world will be better off.
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"Natural selection" my ass. Let's get rid of welfare, disability, affirmative action and let white people defend themselves from you people and see what happens.

You can't even take care of your fucking kids without tax dollars from white people. There never was a race more worthless than blacks.
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White women are naturally selecting non whites to breed with. They're passing on the so called more intelligent capable white male. This trend will continue to rise at an exponential rate all over the world. So nature eliminates the less fit and desirable type of mate. Its a statistical certainty that this will happen. What does that say about whites? They are not the fittest.
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Again, get rid of the affirmative action, welfare and all the cultural programming bullshit and see how many mate with negro bucks.

Personally I'm glad they are fucking them since it is improving our gene pool by getting rid of them. Most intelligent whites want nothing to do with blacks and certainly don't want to breed with them.


Current demographic trends indicate whites will be almost non existent in 100 years due to white women not wanting to procreate much and a near coming drastic spike in interracial relationships. The interracial relationships will mostly be due because white women will/ are shunning the white male. You're glad white women are fucking black bucks? Ok thanks for the encouragement not that I needed it before :).



Any white woman foolish enough to fuck a black just because of cultural BS is too weak-minded to belong to the white race and we are better off without them.

When TSHTF we'll see who lives - ghetto rats in the cities who live like parasites or white people in rural areas who know how to provide for themselves and their families.
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i bet they poisoned my tomato plants too.aniamls
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u gotta realize when a whiteman moves into a black neighborhood and the blacks want to try and control that one white man thats right out of animal kingdom i dont care what anyone says it is what it is. i heard one of them say"this isnt a time where were gonna leave anyone alone"
i know im right.
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I think we are missing the bigger picture here.

Where did these 2 different species originate from?

One by land and one by sea?

2 different planets and brought here as a social experiment of sorts?
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Current demographic trends indicate whites will be almost non existent in 100 years due to white women not wanting to procreate much and a near coming drastic spike in interracial relationships. The interracial relationships will mostly be due because white women will/ are shunning the white male. You're glad white women are fucking black bucks? Ok thanks for the encouragement not that I needed it before :).

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Bullshit propaganda, I'm not surprised that a low-IQ negroid like you would believe it. And be my guest, find as many coal burners as you can - I hope you infect them with HIV and whatever other diseases you are surely carrying.
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I'm sorry I'm confused WHERE IS THE NEANDERTHAL CLASSIFIED AS HUMAN???? THEY ARE NOT- NEVER WERE- NEVER WILL BE. YOU SEE this IMPLIES THAT HUMANS- MOVED OUT OF AFRICA- AND MATED WITH NON-HUMAN NEANDERTHALS WHICH GAVE RISE TO WHITE PEOPLE. STOP TWISTING THE ARTICLE
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I'm sorry I'm confused WHERE IS THE NEANDERTHAL CLASSIFIED AS HUMAN???? THEY ARE NOT- NEVER WERE- NEVER WILL BE. YOU SEE this IMPLIES THAT HUMANS- MOVED OUT OF AFRICA- AND MATED WITH NON-HUMAN NEANDERTHALS WHICH GAVE RISE TO WHITE PEOPLE. STOP TWISTING THE ARTICLE
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aaaaah

you apparently have read it from your ass :

it doesnt say all NON africans.

it says ANY hominoid that evolved outside africa has 20%+ neanderthal gene.

NEANDERTHALS EVOLVED IN AFRICA. THEY WERE ALREADY 'AFRICAN'.

If your heritage is non-African, you are part Neanderthal, according to a new study in the July issue of Molecular Biology and Evolution. Discovery News has been reporting on human/Neanderthal interbreeding for some time now, so this latest research confirms earlier findings.

Full story- [link to news.discovery.com]
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By the way, "out of africa" is and always will be an unproven theory, yet it is referenced as gospel truth.
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We are always learning as a people. Before out of Africa, it was basically another speculation.

It's just interesting to know that the races may have been 2 different species at one point in time. Very close, but different.
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WHY IS NO-ONE MENTIONING THE ASIANS???

MAYBE 3 DIFFERENT RACES.
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hey idiot.

neanderthals were as 'human' as the 'humans' you think you come from.

in certain ways there were more advanced. the only catch is, they were thought to go extinct. it turned out that they didnt - they melded with all other 'races'.

'non human neanderthals' he says.

moron. you wouldnt be able to call any of these 'races' human. go shove your white race superiority complex up your ass. since it has no basis in history.

I'm sorry I'm confused WHERE IS THE NEANDERTHAL CLASSIFIED AS HUMAN???? THEY ARE NOT- NEVER WERE- NEVER WILL BE. YOU SEE this IMPLIES THAT HUMANS- MOVED OUT OF AFRICA- AND MATED WITH NON-HUMAN NEANDERTHALS WHICH GAVE RISE TO WHITE PEOPLE. STOP TWISTING THE ARTICLE
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I'm sorry I'm confused WHERE IS THE NEANDERTHAL CLASSIFIED AS HUMAN???? THEY ARE NOT- NEVER WERE- NEVER WILL BE. YOU SEE this IMPLIES THAT HUMANS- MOVED OUT OF AFRICA- AND MATED WITH NON-HUMAN NEANDERTHALS WHICH GAVE RISE TO WHITE PEOPLE. STOP TWISTING THE ARTICLE
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Neanderthals had bigger brains and were more suited to cold weather survival. They mated with Cro-Magnon man, which had also evolved to live under those cold conditions and the result was the modern human.

Africans stayed behind in Africa and don't have genes from either of those proud lineages - they are simply evolutionary trash that was left over.

Hell, Mother Nature has been trying to get rid of them with things like HIV but we keep on trying to save them with our superior brains. Eventually Mother Nature will win out though - she may have to knock down the rest of us to do it though since we are interfering so much.





GLP