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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1331992 United States 07/20/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TO CHOOSE A MODERN EXAMPLE DO YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT...HMMM...LET'S SAY RON PAUL? Quoting: Lamb ChopsGANDHI WAS ACCUSED OF THE EXACT SAME THING MY FRIEND. IT IS MY BELIEF THAT NOBODY CAN BE TOO COMMITTED TO TRUTH !!! BY THE WAY...DID YOU FIND ANY SEMBLANCE OF ANY TYPE OF VIOLENT THREATS WHATSOEVER IN THE THREAD LINK I POSTED ABOVE? WHEN YOU DO PLEASE LET ME KNOW ! Take your own medicine. You continue to ignore your own energy, you continue to put yourself above others, you face your reflection and only stare at your ego; you are blind to reality. You are confused to say the least. The truth is more important than your thread. |
Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 1475402 United Kingdom 07/20/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i wonder if he did jail time. if so, does he have recourse? Quoting: Inigo Montoyayou know what would be cool? if there was a law stating that if a person is incarcerated for any amount of time, and ultimately he is found not guilty at the time of his hearing, the state must pay a lot of money for each day in jail. this would dissuade prosecutors from being abusive. it would mean tighter cases and more professionalism because there would be consequences to their bringing weak charges. shit, didnt casey anthony spend 3 years in jail, only to get off? taxpayers paid for her time there. if my rule was in place, she would just be starting her 4 year sentence for lying to the cops. anyway, i digress. this article is about our right to talk shit on forums. yippee In Casey Anthony's case she was found guilty of something (just not murder). In this case he might get some compensation. |
Lamb Chops User ID: 1201233 United States 07/20/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BE CAREFUL MY FRIEND...THE SUPER MODS ACCUSED ME OF VIOLATING GLP POLICY AND USING THREATS AS WELL. Quoting: Lamb ChopsWHEN I CHALLENGED THEM TO POINT OUT EVEN ONE INFERENCE OF A THREAT THEY BACKED DOWN BUT STILL THREATENED TO HAVE ME BANNED FOR LIFE !!! The mod never accused you of violating glp policy, he was just giving a reminder. I HAD MADE NO MENTION OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS BREAKING STORY AND HAD MADE ABSOLUTELY NO THREATS WHATSOEVER !!! I EVEN MADE MENTION OF THE FACT THAT THIS WAS A "SENSITIVE" SUBJECT AND IMPLIED TO BE CAUTIOUS IN POSTINGS. AND THIS IS WHAT I RECEIVED...AND YOU THINK THIS WAS JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER? Well it's nice to see a few individuals not running for cover to hide under their chairs in terror. Quoting: Lamb ChopsHello Trinity...it's just broken on the news so I assume one CAN discuss it without fear of being accused of inciting treason or being sent to prison or Gitmo...no? Meet the fearless...LOL You'll get banned so quick your head will spin. You can discuss the court ruling, but our policy remains. Do you have reading comprehension problems? Quoting: SPUDYou'll get banned so quick your head will spin. You can discuss the court ruling, but our policy remains. Quoting: SPUDRead what I said...let it sink in... Quoting: SPUDYou can discuss the ruling, but threats of violence and talk of assassination will be an automatic permanent ban...paid member, or NOT! Do you understand? THEN HOW COME THAT SAME "REMINDER" WAS NOT ISSUED TO ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO INITIATED THREADS ON THIS SUBJECT? I'LL WAIT... Last Edited by Lamb Chops on 07/20/2011 01:39 PM Beauty Is Good -- Wisdom Is Better -- Love Is Best The most tragic mistake we can make is to judge people who are acting under circumstances we ourselves have never experienced. |
RA User ID: 796398 United States 07/20/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | interesting.. but feels like a drop of water in this septic tank of a court system.. Obama must have a few hundred shills running around the internet at this time.. to make it political.. he's likely aware of a fringe group of 'racist' americans with intent to kill him. being the first black president, he has to watch his back.. this will justify iron fist tactics in his mind anyways.. i think everyone and their mom threatened bush in one way and others. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1040252 United States 07/20/2011 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BE CAREFUL MY FRIEND...THE SUPER MODS ACCUSED ME OF VIOLATING GLP POLICY AND USING THREATS AS WELL. Quoting: Lamb ChopsWHEN I CHALLENGED THEM TO POINT OUT EVEN ONE INFERENCE OF A THREAT THEY BACKED DOWN BUT STILL THREATENED TO HAVE ME BANNED FOR LIFE !!! The mod never accused you of violating glp policy, he was just giving a reminder. I HAD MADE NO MENTION OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS BREAKING STORY AND HAD MADE ABSOLUTELY NO THREATS WHATSOEVER !!! I EVEN MADE MENTION OF THE FACT THAT THIS WAS A "SENSITIVE" SUBJECT AND IMPLIED TO BE CAUTIOUS IN POSTINGS. AND THIS IS WHAT I RECEIVED...AND YOU THINK THIS WAS JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER? Well it's nice to see a few individuals not running for cover to hide under their chairs in terror. Quoting: Lamb ChopsHello Trinity...it's just broken on the news so I assume one CAN discuss it without fear of being accused of inciting treason or being sent to prison or Gitmo...no? Meet the fearless...LOL You'll get banned so quick your head will spin. You can discuss the court ruling, but our policy remains. Do you have reading comprehension problems? Quoting: SPUDYou'll get banned so quick your head will spin. You can discuss the court ruling, but our policy remains. Quoting: SPUDRead what I said...let it sink in... Quoting: SPUDYou can discuss the ruling, but threats of violence and talk of assassination will be an automatic permanent ban...paid member, or NOT! Do you understand? THEN HOW COME THAT SAME "REMINDER" WAS NOT ISSUED TO ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO INITIATED THREADS ON THIS SUBJECT? I'LL WAIT... YOU JUST CAN'T COMPREHEND ANYTHING CAN YOU.. |
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wretchedfool User ID: 1472676 United States 07/20/2011 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to latimesblogs.latimes.com] Quoting: Inigo MontoyaA La Mesa man who posted racial epithets and a call to "shoot" Barack Obama on an Internet chat site was engaging in constitutionally protected free speech, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday in overturning his criminal conviction. Walter Bagdasarian was found guilty two years ago of making threats against a major presidential candidate in comments he posted on a Yahoo.com financial website after 1 a.m. on Oct. 22, 2008, as Obama's impending victory in the race for the White House was becoming apparent. Bagdasarian told investigators he was drunk at the time. shin it! This is incredible ! Calling for the execution of an American president is legaly protected speech !? Well hell it is speach after all ! But----- |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 972619 Netherlands 07/20/2011 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "There are many unstable individuals in this nation to whom assault weapons and other firearms are readily available, some of whom might believe that they were doing the nation a service were they to follow Bagdasarian’s commandment. There is nevertheless insufficient evidence that either statement constituted a threat or would be construed by a reasonable person as a genuine threat by Bagdasarian against Obama." Only in america. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1040252 United States 07/20/2011 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to latimesblogs.latimes.com] Quoting: Inigo MontoyaA La Mesa man who posted racial epithets and a call to "shoot" Barack Obama on an Internet chat site was engaging in constitutionally protected free speech, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday in overturning his criminal conviction. Walter Bagdasarian was found guilty two years ago of making threats against a major presidential candidate in comments he posted on a Yahoo.com financial website after 1 a.m. on Oct. 22, 2008, as Obama's impending victory in the race for the White House was becoming apparent. Bagdasarian told investigators he was drunk at the time. shin it! This is incredible ! Calling for the execution of an American president is legaly protected speech !? Well hell it is speach after all ! But----- he was not president when this threat was made, making a threat against the president is STILL a felony. treed carefully |
wretchedfool User ID: 1472676 United States 07/20/2011 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to latimesblogs.latimes.com] Quoting: Inigo MontoyaA La Mesa man who posted racial epithets and a call to "shoot" Barack Obama on an Internet chat site was engaging in constitutionally protected free speech, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday in overturning his criminal conviction. Walter Bagdasarian was found guilty two years ago of making threats against a major presidential candidate in comments he posted on a Yahoo.com financial website after 1 a.m. on Oct. 22, 2008, as Obama's impending victory in the race for the White House was becoming apparent. Bagdasarian told investigators he was drunk at the time. shin it! This is incredible ! Calling for the execution of an American president is legaly protected speech !? Well hell it is speach after all ! But----- he was not president when this threat was made, making a threat against the president is STILL a felony. treed carefully I thought it was also a felony to threaten any public official ? Was not Obamma a senator at this time ? |
Lamb Chops User ID: 1201233 United States 07/20/2011 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BE CAREFUL MY FRIEND...THE SUPER MODS ACCUSED ME OF VIOLATING GLP POLICY AND USING THREATS AS WELL. Quoting: Lamb ChopsWHEN I CHALLENGED THEM TO POINT OUT EVEN ONE INFERENCE OF A THREAT THEY BACKED DOWN BUT STILL THREATENED TO HAVE ME BANNED FOR LIFE !!! The mod never accused you of violating glp policy, he was just giving a reminder. I HAD MADE NO MENTION OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS BREAKING STORY AND HAD MADE ABSOLUTELY NO THREATS WHATSOEVER !!! I EVEN MADE MENTION OF THE FACT THAT THIS WAS A "SENSITIVE" SUBJECT AND IMPLIED TO BE CAUTIOUS IN POSTINGS. AND THIS IS WHAT I RECEIVED...AND YOU THINK THIS WAS JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER? Well it's nice to see a few individuals not running for cover to hide under their chairs in terror. Quoting: Lamb ChopsHello Trinity...it's just broken on the news so I assume one CAN discuss it without fear of being accused of inciting treason or being sent to prison or Gitmo...no? Meet the fearless...LOL You'll get banned so quick your head will spin. You can discuss the court ruling, but our policy remains. Do you have reading comprehension problems? Quoting: SPUDYou'll get banned so quick your head will spin. You can discuss the court ruling, but our policy remains. Quoting: SPUDRead what I said...let it sink in... Quoting: SPUDYou can discuss the ruling, but threats of violence and talk of assassination will be an automatic permanent ban...paid member, or NOT! Do you understand? THEN HOW COME THAT SAME "REMINDER" WAS NOT ISSUED TO ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO INITIATED THREADS ON THIS SUBJECT? I'LL WAIT... YOU JUST CAN'T COMPREHEND ANYTHING CAN YOU.. YOU JUST CAN'T ANSWER A SIMPLE QUESTION CAN YOU? ANSWER MY QUESTION: THEN HOW COME THAT SAME "REMINDER" WAS NOT ISSUED TO ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO INITIATED THREADS ON THIS SUBJECT? I'M STILL WAITING... EVEN THE OP OF THIS THREAD (BELOW) BELIEVES AND STATED THAT THIS WAS DONE SIMPLY TO SLAP ME FOR NO REAL CAUSE YOU HYPOCRITE !!! lol, i think the pin is intended as a face-slap to lambchops Quoting: Inigo MontoyaIf you read my entire OP you will find nothing but friendly and even apologetic language. My only "sin" was for sticking up for myself, standing my ground and not quaking in fear at the threats of an almighty Forum Moderator who made the call wrong. All I can see here is one forum moderator sticking up for another...you KNOW it and so do I. Spud was wrong in his chastisement of me and neither of you are man enough to simply admit it...only REAL men (or women) can admit that they may have been mistaken or in error. Last Edited by Lamb Chops on 07/20/2011 02:23 PM Beauty Is Good -- Wisdom Is Better -- Love Is Best The most tragic mistake we can make is to judge people who are acting under circumstances we ourselves have never experienced. |
Phennommennonn Forum Administrator User ID: 1438313 United States 07/20/2011 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to latimesblogs.latimes.com] Quoting: Inigo MontoyaA La Mesa man who posted racial epithets and a call to "shoot" Barack Obama on an Internet chat site was engaging in constitutionally protected free speech, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday in overturning his criminal conviction. Walter Bagdasarian was found guilty two years ago of making threats against a major presidential candidate in comments he posted on a Yahoo.com financial website after 1 a.m. on Oct. 22, 2008, as Obama's impending victory in the race for the White House was becoming apparent. Bagdasarian told investigators he was drunk at the time. shin it! OMFG i hope stevie doesnt use this precedent for an appeal !!! political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1040252 United States 07/20/2011 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ~Jay~The mod never accused you of violating glp policy, he was just giving a reminder. I HAD MADE NO MENTION OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS BREAKING STORY AND HAD MADE ABSOLUTELY NO THREATS WHATSOEVER !!! I EVEN MADE MENTION OF THE FACT THAT THIS WAS A "SENSITIVE" SUBJECT AND IMPLIED TO BE CAUTIOUS IN POSTINGS. AND THIS IS WHAT I RECEIVED...AND YOU THINK THIS WAS JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER? ... Quoting: SPUDYou'll get banned so quick your head will spin. You can discuss the court ruling, but our policy remains. Do you have reading comprehension problems? Quoting: SPUDYou'll get banned so quick your head will spin. You can discuss the court ruling, but our policy remains. Quoting: SPUDRead what I said...let it sink in... Quoting: SPUDYou can discuss the ruling, but threats of violence and talk of assassination will be an automatic permanent ban...paid member, or NOT! Do you understand? THEN HOW COME THAT SAME "REMINDER" WAS NOT ISSUED TO ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO INITIATED THREADS ON THIS SUBJECT? I'LL WAIT... YOU JUST CAN'T COMPREHEND ANYTHING CAN YOU.. YOU JUST CAN'T ANSWER A SIMPLE QUESTION CAN YOU? ANSWER MY QUESTION: THEN HOW COME THAT SAME "REMINDER" WAS NOT ISSUED TO ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO INITIATED THREADS ON THIS SUBJECT? I'M STILL WAITING... EVEN THE OP OF THIS THREAD (BELOW) BELIEVES AND STATED THAT THIS WAS DONE SIMPLY TO SLAP ME FOR NO REAL CAUSE YOU HYPOCRITE !!! lol, i think the pin is intended as a face-slap to lambchops Quoting: Inigo MontoyaI THINK HE REMINDED YOU BECAUSE YOU ASKED "it's just broken on the news so I assume one CAN discuss it without fear of being accused of inciting treason or being sent to prison or Gitmo...no?" AND HE ANSWERED, YES U CAN DISCUSS THIS BUT GLP POLICY REMAINS AND ANY THREATS WILL BE DEALT WITH. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1474935 United Kingdom 07/20/2011 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol at the article he got grassed up by 1 guy at the forum, 3 said they would but only 1 actually did. I reckon he had intentions to do it, he had a gun and 50cal bullets in his house, and he said "he would get a 50cal in the head". But not so politely. |
Lamb Chops User ID: 1201233 United States 07/20/2011 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lamb ChopsI HAD MADE NO MENTION OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS BREAKING STORY AND HAD MADE ABSOLUTELY NO THREATS WHATSOEVER !!! I EVEN MADE MENTION OF THE FACT THAT THIS WAS A "SENSITIVE" SUBJECT AND IMPLIED TO BE CAUTIOUS IN POSTINGS. AND THIS IS WHAT I RECEIVED...AND YOU THINK THIS WAS JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER? ... ... ... ... THEN HOW COME THAT SAME "REMINDER" WAS NOT ISSUED TO ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO INITIATED THREADS ON THIS SUBJECT? I'LL WAIT... YOU JUST CAN'T COMPREHEND ANYTHING CAN YOU.. YOU JUST CAN'T ANSWER A SIMPLE QUESTION CAN YOU? ANSWER MY QUESTION: THEN HOW COME THAT SAME "REMINDER" WAS NOT ISSUED TO ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO INITIATED THREADS ON THIS SUBJECT? I'M STILL WAITING... EVEN THE OP OF THIS THREAD (BELOW) BELIEVES AND STATED THAT THIS WAS DONE SIMPLY TO SLAP ME FOR NO REAL CAUSE YOU HYPOCRITE !!! lol, i think the pin is intended as a face-slap to lambchops Quoting: Inigo MontoyaI THINK HE REMINDED YOU BECAUSE YOU ASKED "it's just broken on the news so I assume one CAN discuss it without fear of being accused of inciting treason or being sent to prison or Gitmo...no?" AND HE ANSWERED, YES U CAN DISCUSS THIS BUT GLP POLICY REMAINS AND ANY THREATS WILL BE DEALT WITH. I'm sorry to have to disagree with you Jay and I'm REALLY NOT attempting to cause an argument but please go back and read through the OP. Spud did NOT simply reply "YES U CAN DISCUSS THIS BUT GLP POLICY REMAINS AND ANY THREATS WILL BE DEALT WITH." If you read my entire OP you will find nothing but friendly and even apologetic language. My only "sin" was for sticking up for myself, standing my ground and not quaking in fear at the threats of an almighty Forum Moderator who made the call wrong. All I can see here is one forum moderator sticking up for another...you KNOW it and so do I. Spud was wrong in his chastisement of me and neither of you are man enough to simply admit it...only REAL men (or women) can admit that they may have been mistaken or in error. I believe that this matter bears no further discussion see no reason to continue further. Last Edited by Lamb Chops on 07/20/2011 02:24 PM Beauty Is Good -- Wisdom Is Better -- Love Is Best The most tragic mistake we can make is to judge people who are acting under circumstances we ourselves have never experienced. |
ttown_okie User ID: 1398386 United States 07/20/2011 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow...not big news to anyone here? Quoting: Inigo MontoyaI don't get it either. I posted a thread about it a couple of hours ago. Thread: * Breaking * Federal court says calling for the president to be assassinated is free speech Someone else posted a third thread too. I think people are just afraid to even talk about it. And I posted mine before anybody and I promptly received threats from the Senior Forum Moderator for even bringing the story up. I challenged people not to be afraid to discuss a major news story and I was harshly rebuked. I even cautioned people that I understood that this was a very "sensitive" story and implied them to use caution when posting. These people promote (or pin) only those that they "approve" of or who kiss up to them. It's quite disgusting !!! actually i was the first to post it on glp, :) |
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Lamb Chops User ID: 1201233 United States 07/20/2011 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow...not big news to anyone here? Quoting: Inigo MontoyaI don't get it either. I posted a thread about it a couple of hours ago. Thread: * Breaking * Federal court says calling for the president to be assassinated is free speech Someone else posted a third thread too. I think people are just afraid to even talk about it. And I posted mine before anybody and I promptly received threats from the Senior Forum Moderator for even bringing the story up. I challenged people not to be afraid to discuss a major news story and I was harshly rebuked. I even cautioned people that I understood that this was a very "sensitive" story and implied them to use caution when posting. These people promote (or pin) only those that they "approve" of or who kiss up to them. It's quite disgusting !!! actually i was the first to post it on glp, :) In light of the forgoing animosity perhaps it is better for you that it wasn't pinned anyway... :-) Last Edited by Lamb Chops on 07/20/2011 02:47 PM Beauty Is Good -- Wisdom Is Better -- Love Is Best The most tragic mistake we can make is to judge people who are acting under circumstances we ourselves have never experienced. |
Chris Jusset User ID: 1202409 United States 07/20/2011 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to latimesblogs.latimes.com] Quoting: Inigo MontoyaA La Mesa man who posted racial epithets and a call to "shoot" Barack Obama on an Internet chat site was engaging in constitutionally protected free speech, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday in overturning his criminal conviction. Walter Bagdasarian was found guilty two years ago of making threats against a major presidential candidate in comments he posted on a Yahoo.com financial website after 1 a.m. on Oct. 22, 2008, as Obama's impending victory in the race for the White House was becoming apparent. Bagdasarian told investigators he was drunk at the time. shin it! This is incredible ! Calling for the execution of an American president is legaly protected speech !? Well hell it is speach after all ! But----- Dude, this is what was written: "He posted the statements "Re: Obama fk the niggar, he will have a 50 cal in the head soon" and "shoot the nig" on an online message board two weeks before the 2008 presidential election that was won by Barack Obama." The key is to read this statement carefully, in context, and using the reasonable meanings and inferences. It's not a "threat" ... |
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Epic Beard Guy User ID: 1161728 United States 07/20/2011 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1475474 United States 07/20/2011 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anybody that threatens a president or other political figure in public should be in jail for felony stupidity anyway. Even if they don't do anything except make a threat, it cost the taxpayers (that's us) a fortune and their quality of life takes a huge hit. With all the feds watching them 24/7 their life will suck for years. If you feel like threatening our liar in chief, i recommend keeping it to yourself. Quoting: Epic Beard GuyYou should learn the law, bro.. Conveying a threat and suggesting or conveying an opinion or stance or view are two different things. |
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ttown_okie User ID: 1398386 United States 07/20/2011 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | threats on the president are still illegal, the court made clear that making a prediction does not constitute a threat. Too bad for you SS. haha! "The statement that Obama "will have a 50 cal in the head soon" was a prediction that conveyed no explicit or implicit threat on the part of Bagdasarian that he himself would kill or injure Obama." |