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Why 2005 YU55 is a MAJOR concern.

 
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Could this explain all of the "moon blowing up" dreams?
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If it does hit, it won't be much of an impact. It's only 1500 ft. according to the OP. The moon has been hit by MUCH bigger and survived.
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Quoted dates from the first post:

april 17th 2021 .028
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november 7th 2022 .0366 au

The right year for april 17th is 2021 or 2012 please?
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maybe i found something interest..got this right now via twitter


NASA Announces Launch Tweetup for GRAIL Moon Mission


NASA will host a two-day launch Tweetup for 150 of its Twitter followers on Sept. 7-8 at the agency's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The Tweetup is expected to culminate in the launch of the twin lunar-bound GRAIL spacecraft aboard a Delta II rocket from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida.

The launch window opens at 8:37 a.m. EDT on Sept. 8. The two GRAIL spacecraft will fly in tandem orbits around the moon for several months to measure its gravity field, from its crust to core, in unprecedented detail. The mission also will answer longstanding questions about Earth’s moon and provide scientists with a better understanding of how Earth and other rocky planets in the solar system formed.

MHH...


[link to www.nasa.gov]
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Cool, that's really cool actually, since gravity probe B I've been wondering when they would do this with the moon also. :-)
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1. On November 8th YU55 will become A lunar distance of 0.85, also 0.00217 AU (325,000 km; 202,000 mi) from Earth. The closest approach of any outer space object to earth in human history.
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BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OP you are FOS.
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1. On November 8th YU55 will become A lunar distance of 0.85, also 0.00217 AU (325,000 km; 202,000 mi) from Earth. The closest approach of any outer space object, as large as this, to earth in recorded human history.

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[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
3 Facts about YU55

1. On November 8th YU55 will become A lunar distance of 0.85, also 0.00217 AU (325,000 km; 202,000 mi) from Earth. The closest approach of any outer space object to earth in human history.

 Quoting: zaphryn


I stopped reading there, because it certainly is not true, things have come much closer, let alone the space objects that actually hit us, even during human history.
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YOU hit the nail on the head, we are bombarded everyday with small space rocks, dust, and meteoroids. Since some burn up in the atmosphere, you can consider them MUCH closer :-)
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bump

I looked at this as well a few weeks back when I saw the Project Camelot vid, scary it is. I believe a legit concern. While I'm skeptical about Elenin (a Y2K-like phenom) this one looks dangerous. If NASA is worried, I'm worried. The gravitational measurement probes also likely connected.

And no Elenintards, I'm not a shill, I believe some form of Doom is coming, just not sure what.
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Ok, who pitted this shin? afro
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They don't plan a national emergency broadcast in advance... unless it's a hurricane, that JUST now turned towards land etc... How could they plan a broadcast that far out, when there is no emergency in sight?

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Could this explain all of the "moon blowing up" dreams?
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If it does hit, it won't be much of an impact. It's only 1500 ft. according to the OP. The moon has been hit by MUCH bigger and survived.
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Um hmm, yep! Even if gets pulled our way instead, most of it will burn up or break apart and certainly cause some trouble for a small part of the globe but nothing to loose sleep over imo.
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Elenin is a distraction

This YU55 is the real deal

and that is not all
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Agree.
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good post OP, suggest you dont spend too much time and effort trying to convice some, you need your own planning time.
YU55 needs watching.

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Could this explain all of the "moon blowing up" dreams?
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Too little to split the Moon - low mass and little speed.
The Moon will be hit by object of diameter of at least 35 kms flying in higher speed - probably one of the "Intruder" family or smthng drawn from Oort cloud. But it WILL BE.

I had the same meditation in 2000 - and consulted it with professionals.
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But is is above our ecliptic, right?

[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
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How hot is the moon's core ?.
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They don't plan a national emergency broadcast in advance... unless it's a hurricane, that JUST now turned towards land etc... How could they plan a broadcast that far out, when there is no emergency in sight?

F I R S T E V E R !!!!!!

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Geekoftheweek, You owe the OP an apology!!! chuckle
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They don't plan a national emergency broadcast in advance... unless it's a hurricane, that JUST now turned towards land etc... How could they plan a broadcast that far out, when there is no emergency in sight?

F I R S T E V E R !!!!!!

[link to www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com]
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From the article listed:

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) will work with the Federal Communications Commissions (FCC) to conduct the test, and the two organizations say they have announced it so far in advance because they “want all partners and especially the public to be aware of this test, what it means, and have plenty of time to prepare.”

FEMA and FCC working together to test a National Emergencey Broadcast System over all forms of communication!


"The test will include broadcast radio and television stations, cable TV, satellite radio, as well as wireline video service providers in all fifty states, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and American Samoa."

Oh, November 9th at 2pm.
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[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
3 Facts about YU55

1. On November 8th YU55 will become A lunar distance of 0.85, also 0.00217 AU (325,000 km; 202,000 mi) from Earth. The closest approach of any outer space object to earth in human history.

2. YU55 will also become 0.00160 AU (239,000 km; 149,000 mi) from the moon. It's position will form a triangle with the earth and the moon.

3. YU55 is 1,500 feet in diameter and round shaped like a planet. It also seems to be evenly picking up Dust and ice particles along with it.


Why it should be of worry?
3 reasons.

1. When it creates that triangle with earth and the moon the gravity of both Earth & Moon will be powerful enough to change it's trajectory and degrade it's speed. This is bad for two reasons. If it slows down, it allows a much larger chance for debris it has collected to fall to the earth. Also, if the earths gravity is powerful enough to satellite the moon around it, when the moon is 1,700 miles in diameter why isn't it strong enough to pull in a rock that's only 1,500 feet in diameter and has far less mass?

2. The Sun will push the Earths magnetic sheild away from the Sun. The Moon will be
traveling thru it, and during the month of November if any Solar Activity is present, the asteroid will be significantly affected.


3. Due to the Moon's hot core, it can not
hold a very strong magnetic field. However, due to the size of this asteroid, roughly
the height of the empire state building, and its rapid speed, it's course
heading and speed will be slightly altered and there is a significant possibility
additional energy may be imparted to the asteroids rotational speed thru
electro-magnetic resonance. Kinda like the wind blowing on a pinwheel, the
stonger the gusts the faster the spin.

Without orbital mechanics, and specific facts, and its new course and heading
speed, I would would not hazard a guess what it will do next time it visits us
again. Worst yet, if it is very fragile, it just might break up and afford us
new craters on the moon and earth to look at. However, if it is as round as they
stated, one needs to ask why that is so. How could it evenly collect dust and
ice particles? Clearly it is moving so fast,
and rotating once a day, it is efficient in vaccuuming dust thru out our solar
system. Than that becomes another variable to add to a long list of ifs. The
other is why we didn't see it before 2005, does it show up on the old Mount Palomar
Photographic plates?


I also found that Robert S. McMillan who discovered this thing says that we don't have anything to fear as far as hitting earth goes until 100 years from now. I went to Nasa's JPL and looked at it every date from 2012 to 2140. The only two times it ever comes even close to us is listed below.

april 17th 2021 .028

november 7th 2022 .0366 au

after 2022 I couldn't find a single date it came anywhere near us. So why are they falsely projecting a concern for the future? Could there be concern now?

Why is President Obama issuing a National Emergency broadcast on the very date this thing is flying by? Could there be debris entering our atmosphere? This thing is going right through the earths magnetosphere folks. I'm not a doomer, but this definitely looks like something we should be really looking at.
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Nice one OP, Here are a few more facts for Nov 8 and Nov 9

2011 NOV 09
Closest approach of 2005 YU55 (0,0023 AU) : This Astroid will pass between Earth and the Moon (Distance Earth-Moon = 0.00257 AU). This Astroid could hit the moon, normally it will pass the moon at (0,00027 AU) ! This is a very important time period, the 2005 YU55 comet passes earth at just 2.137.988 miles or 3.427.194 kilometers, but even more important, this comet will “pass” our moon at just 25.098 miles or 40.232 kilometers, thats the distance of just one time around the earth ! If ELENIN has a powerfull field it could push 2005 YU55 out of it’s “normal route” and closer to the moon. If the moon is hit by this 400 meter diameter rock, disaster will also hit earth with tidalwaves and more !
[link to imageshack.us]

2011 NOV 09
Astroid 1036 Ganymed in the Area

[link to imageshack.us]

2011 NOV 09
Also in the Neighborhoud : 1996 FG3 Astroid !

[link to imageshack.us]

2011 NOV 11
Perfect Alignment Elenin, Earth, Mercury and Venus. During this alignment the Earth will also pass the route of Elenin so when Elenin has a tail with Debris, all the rocks will hit Earth and it could be raining Fire as the Bible tells us !!! By the way, this stuff is all going to happen when the date is 11-11-11 isn’t that cool !!!

[link to imageshack.us]


Plus the timing of FEMA Emergency broadcast (Testing) Nov 8(est 2pm) is Nov 8 7 pm GMT ( so the timing for Nov 9 gmt is spot on)
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[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
3 Facts about YU55

1. On November 8th YU55 will become A lunar distance of 0.85, also 0.00217 AU (325,000 km; 202,000 mi) from Earth. The closest approach of any outer space object to earth in human history.

 Quoting: zaphryn


I stopped reading there, because it certainly is not true, things have come much closer, let alone the space objects that actually hit us, even during human history.
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I apologize and you are correct It was more or less an exaggeration. Of course things have hit us before. This is really close though man.
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Could this explain all of the "moon blowing up" dreams?
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If it does hit, it won't be much of an impact. It's only 1500 ft. according to the OP. The moon has been hit by MUCH bigger and survived.
 Quoting: GeekOfTheWeek


You need to look up potentially hazardous object. The moon doesnt have people living in on it. It wouldn't end the world but it would definitely cause catastrophic stuff to happen, if an asteroid the size the Empire State building fell in to our atmosphere. This comment is ludicrous.
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They don't plan a national emergency broadcast in advance... unless it's a hurricane, that JUST now turned towards land etc... How could they plan a broadcast that far out, when there is no emergency in sight?

F I R S T E V E R !!!!!!

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From the article listed:

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) will work with the Federal Communications Commissions (FCC) to conduct the test, and the two organizations say they have announced it so far in advance because they “want all partners and especially the public to be aware of this test, what it means, and have plenty of time to prepare.”

FEMA and FCC working together to test a National Emergencey Broadcast System over all forms of communication!


"The test will include broadcast radio and television stations, cable TV, satellite radio, as well as wireline video service providers in all fifty states, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and American Samoa."

Oh, November 9th at 2pm.
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3 Facts about YU55

1. When it creates that triangle with earth and the moon the gravity of both Earth & Moon will be powerful enough to change it's trajectory and degrade it's speed. This is bad for two reasons. If it slows down, it allows a much larger chance for debris it has collected to fall to the earth. Also, if the earths gravity is powerful enough to satellite the moon around it, when the moon is 1,700 miles in diameter why isn't it strong enough to pull in a rock that's only 1,500 feet in diameter and has far less mass?

That's an answer in itself. If it's going fast enough, there won't be hardly any change in course due to it's LOW MASS

As I stated below, The gravitational pull will slow it's speed. This is why it is a concern.

2. The Sun will push the Earths magnetic sheild away from the Sun. The Moon will be
traveling thru it, and during the month of November if any Solar Activity is present, the asteroid will be significantly affected.

That won't really have an effect unless it's a comet and the ice actually jets from it, causing a MINOR change in course.

As I also stated below this thing is collecting dust and ice particles with it. Therefore solar activity would effect it.

3. Due to the Moon's hot core, it can not
hold a very strong magnetic field. However, due to the size of this asteroid, roughly
the height of the empire state building, and its rapid speed, it's course
heading and speed will be slightly altered and there is a significant possibility
additional energy may be imparted to the asteroids rotational speed thru
electro-magnetic resonance. Kinda like the wind blowing on a pinwheel, the
stonger the gusts the faster the spin.

The moon does not have a molten core

I never said molten, I said Hot. The moons core is made up of iron and astronauts from apollo that measured heat flow said they have found the core had cooled. Cooled of course in comparison to the Earths core. However, it is still hot enough not to maintain better gravity. At least this is the assumption, however NASA is presently checking on the moons gravity now with a ship they are launching. See about 3-4 posts below the original.

Without orbital mechanics, and specific facts, and its new course and heading
speed, I would would not hazard a guess what it will do next time it visits us
again. Worst yet, if it is very fragile, it just might break up and afford us
new craters on the moon and earth to look at. However, if it is as round as they
stated, one needs to ask why that is so. How could it evenly collect dust and
ice particles? Clearly it is moving so fast,
and rotating once a day, it is efficient in vaccuuming dust thru out our solar
system. Than that becomes another variable to add to a long list of ifs. The
other is why we didn't see it before 2005, does it show up on the old Mount Palomar
Photographic plates?

If there is a course change, it could very well be more aimed AWAY from Earth just as easily more aim AT it... even odds there, but unlikely it will change

so what your saying here is there's a chance? It's all I'm saying.

I also found that Robert S. McMillan who discovered this thing says that we don't have anything to fear as far as hitting earth goes until 100 years from now. I went to Nasa's JPL and looked at it every date from 2012 to 2140. The only two times it ever comes even close to us is listed below.

april 17th 2021 .028

november 7th 2022 .0366 au

after 2022 I couldn't find a single date it came anywhere near us. So why are they falsely projecting a concern for the future? Could there be concern now?

Not likely, these guys know what they are doing, we can slingshot Cassini off earth more than once, without any corrections needed other than burn out away from Earth, If I remember right people were in a panic it would hit us and release it's thermo nuclear battery onto us, but nothing happened, they planned it well.

I don't doubt this. But things don't always go according to plan

Why is President Obama issuing a National Emergency broadcast on the very date this thing is flying by? Could there be debris entering our atmosphere? This thing is going right through the earths magnetosphere folks. I'm not a doomer, but this definitely looks like something we should be really looking at.
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They don't plan a national emergency broadcast in advance... unless it's a hurricane, that JUST now turned towards land etc... How could they plan a broadcast that far out, when there is no emergency in sight?

They're calling it an emergency broadcast test. I just find it awkward it's coincidentally the same time.
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Thanks moon
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t was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant (Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation Might satisfy his mind.

The First approached the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side, ~ At once began to bawl:
"God bless me! but the Elephant ~ Is very like a wall!"

The Second, feeling of the tusk,
Cried, "Ho! what have we here?
So very round and smooth and sharp? To me 'tis mighty clear
This wonder of an Elephant ~ Is very like a spear!"

The Third approached the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands, ~ Thus boldly up and spake:
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant ~ Is very like a snake!"
The Fourth reached out an eager hand,
And felt about the knee.
"What most this wondrous beast is like ~ Is mighty plain," quoth her;
"'Tis clear enough the Elephant ~ Is very like a tree!"

The Fifth who chanced to touch the ear,
Said: "E'en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most; ~ Deny the fact who can,
This marvel of an Elephant ~ Is very like a fan!"

The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Than, seizing on the swinging tail ~ That fell within his scope,
"I see," quoth he, "the Elephant ~ Is very like a rope!

And so these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion ~ Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right ~ And all were in the wrong!
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I want to ask do any of you know who you could contact to say you have seen a ( CHUPACABRA ). Just saw one at 7:40 PM tonight First time.
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It was comming out of a State Park area going to a residential area.





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