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Dr Dan Burisch Information

 
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BTTT!!!!
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"...´He is currently being debriefed. This will be made available. You will find many that state it´s about Dan making money. He has pledged any potential profit to charity.´

What about those around him?..."

[Boom, hope you don´t mind if I help a bit on this one (good effort to help answer all these questions, many very valid!).]

It´s true that ´those around him´ while being friends, probably had it in their mind that they would reap some form of material reward for their efforts. Anyone with a basic understanding of how corporatism in America works is right to be skeptical of this aspect, because ´money´ is always made in an endeavor and Dan´s story does represent potentially ´big money´. The folks that were until recently entrusted with his debriefing were first and foremost friends but hadn´t been able to secure a deal, per se, from anyone with enough weight and conviction to allow their name to be used (such as George Lucas, Francis Ford Coppola, Spielberg, etc.). If and when a deal is struck, it´s all well and good for Dan to take his percentage (I think the usual is around 15%) and donate it to charity, but someone stands to make a lot of money if this is done effectively. This could make a lot of the folks ´around him´ sycophants (and I trust Marci NOT to be sycophantic in this).

Shame how an author´s slice of his own pie is (usually) so small.
J1: Throw leaves in the air after the initial break off and declare Planet X as doomsday foolish. If you don't the prophecy will kick into motion.
H1: Well...technically...I can do that...if I define it carefully.
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A list of well known and well used cult checklists to use if you believe that you are encountering a cult.



[link to en.wikipedia.org]


My personal favorite is:

ABCDEF
The Neopagan´s website presents an "Advanced Bonewits Cult Danger Evaluation Frame" [2] constructed by Isaac Bonewits, intended to evaluate the degree of resemblance of a given religious or secular group to a cult.

We in the Pagan/Wiccan community give it out to all neopytes seeking to join a group, circle or coven. Also the check list is now being used nation wide not only with neoPagan groups.

I know some of you have a problem with my faith so you might want to look at all the rest on list

I point your attension to this one on list. IDENTICAL to whats going on in Stargate, Bill Hamilton, Dan Burisch


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Steve Eichel
In his "Building Resistance to Manipulation", the psychologist Steve K.D. Eichel created a checklist of signs of a sect designed to brainwash its members into loyal followers:

Isolate them in new surroundings apart from old friends or reference-points;

Provide them with instant acceptance from a seemingly loving group;

Keep them away from competing or critical ideas;

Provide an authority figure that everyone seems to acknowledge as having some special skill or awareness;

Provide a philosophy that seems logical and appears to answer all or the most important questions in life;

Structure all or most activities so that there is little time for privacy or independent action or thought, provide a sense of "us" versus "them";

Promise instant or imminent solutions to deep or long-term problems;

Employ covert or disguised hypnotic techniques.


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i think i have to repeat myself.

Boomer more or less has promised to provide answers. This is not happened. It is only an effort to keep this myte alive not more. If i am wrong please answer the questions, b4 we begin to talk about the film and the profitd that will be made by the stargaters.

Back then on GLP i said that this stuff reads like a detective.. in certain terms this is true.. Some other user, an AC made a remark that this was a writers trick to write a book (not his/her exact words - you can find these remarks in GLP volume 1, 2 or three - however the volume 3 misses some posts, after threats were made against Dondep, exactly after Dondeps words: "My death sentence is signed huh?" - again not exactly his words but more or less.. look it up.. you won´t find them...).

After all i was right like the other ac .

"´He is currently being debriefed. This will be made available."

Promises promises. I am waiting for this world changing info.



Now again my questions. I edited the earlier post a little bit for the sake of reading and i left some of it out of this post..
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What did Dr. Buruish achieve so far?
I am curious to your answer (btw you sound like - Trained For This in this thread) but i will try to give an answer myself.

A big nothing. His most important card is the issue of the disclosure. But there will be no disclosure.

They (the ptb) sits on a branch of a tree and then the Dr Thermoman tells me that they will cut it off. Why should they? They sit on it!!!!

edit to add ; this is their power basis gor God´s sake!

A disclosure of what?
On what basis?
Don´t they know that they will be all locked up when they ´tell the world´ what they did to us all?

Your answers were not to my satisfaction. For someone who acts as a genuine insider (almost), the answers were too general. I knew that too.

Or shall i ask those questioons to JayRodney. He´s got a big mouth and claims to know the answers.

I think.. let´s suppose we are in a timeloop.. When did we get in there?
Why?
And How does the ptb know about it?
Someone told them?

And besides.. if we are in a timeloop.... then how can we be sure that the so called jrods are from the future?
How can we tell that they are not from our past?

If they are from our past, then i will understand why they come here to find a cure.. But they, and all of you stargaters claim that they are from our future......

You are a dedicated defender of the Burish myte.. How can you be that dedicated, if you don´t know nothing.. and must depend op what others tell you?
How can you tell that those others don´t lie?

By the way most of these questions are retorical. But anywayz.. i like to hear your answers.

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Dondep said :

"...but someone stands to make a lot of money if this is done effectively. This could make a lot of the folks ´around him´ sycophants (and I trust Marci NOT to be sycophantic in this). "

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syc·o·phant Audio pronunciation of "sycophantic"
( P ) Pronunciation Key (sk-fnt, sk-)n.

A servile self-seeker who attempts to win favor by flattering influential people.

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Dondep : Do you have reasons to believe that she will be sycophantic? If not, why the need for this little warning?
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Thanks Dondep,

All assistance in replying to the questions is appreciated, keep your eye on me for ´boo-boos´...hehe!

Let´s respond to the cult list, upto now all I´ve done is scrolled by and groaned.

I said earlier, this thread isn´t designed for discussion (OR ROWS), more to answer questions (IF POSSIBLE!!!)

First comment.

A cult means what really? Getting people to join some sort of organization? Tempting them in through the
doors? Brainwashing them, controlling etc. I too disagree with the forming of ´Cults´.

They usually try to entice new ´members´......

You can all make your own minds up by reading the material on Dan Burisch and watching out for updates.

No one has been asked to >JOIN< anything.

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"Isolate them in new surroundings apart from old friends or reference-points;"

I´m at my PC. In my own home. I see all the people I always see etc.

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"Provide them with instant acceptance from a seemingly loving group;"

LOVING GROUP??? No, just regular people.

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"Keep them away from competing or critical ideas;"

I would rather people knew what they were dealing with and judge the evidence for themselves.

Dan Burisch information available from
[link to www.tonicvision.tv]

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This is the address for a group of people that are searching for evidence that refutes Dans claims

[link to eaglesdisobey.org]

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This is the address for Nightshade who is searching for evidence that Dan Burisch is forming a cult.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

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"Provide an authority figure that everyone seems to acknowledge as having some special skill or awareness;"

Dan (with others) is revealing information that´s being researched further. He has said that he´s ´interacted´ with what I will refer to as somethings ´unfamiliar´. That aspect is not the major line of research.

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"Provide a philosophy that seems logical and appears to answer all or the most important questions in life;"

On the contrary. This is a highly illogical business! If it ends up answering the question of our origins (as an example) great, no promises have however been made to anyone about anything. This ´exercise´ is dynamic.

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"Structure all or most activities so that there is little time for privacy or independent action or thought, provide a sense of "us" versus "them";"

Us v Them.

People look at the material and judge whether it´s worth considering. I have always welcomed questioning minds.

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"Promise instant or imminent solutions to deep or long-term problems;"

No promises made as I recall to anyone about solutions to anything.

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"Employ covert or disguised hypnotic techniques."

That must be that strange screen saver that sneaked onto my hard drive....sheesh.
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Hello again BTN.

"´He is currently being debriefed. This will be made available."

Promises promises. I am waiting for this world changing info.

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I´m sorry you are being kept waiting BTN.

I don´t have all the answers.

Please read the material and judge for yourself, if you think its a hoax, that´s ok.
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Boomerang:

You say that you don´t have the answers. But you´ve started this thread as a Q&A. But you still are not telling anything.

Im sorry if i keep repeating myself.. but i get the feeling that you avoid the questions.

Are you the only one in this thread to give the answers, or are you talking in the background with others before you decide if you will be answering?

Be honest. What do you know then?

If all you know is what others tell you, how can you be sure that they are telling the truth?

´my gut feeling´ is not an answer btw.

I mean: What are your reasons and based on what?

It´s easy to say.. look at the info and decide for yourself. You know , as i do, how huge that info is. I never said this was a hoax.. but it resembles a hoax perfectly well.

I can imagine that many people feel like a donkey chasing a carot, incl me.. After almost three years,.. there is still nothing except the negotiations about how to share the big money, taht could be made out of the efforts we saw the last 3 years.

If it is true and they are negotiating about the rights.. then i suppose the disclosure will have to wait a little while.

Why should they spill their beans while they can make a perfect use of them for their movie huh?

This means.. inquiring minds will wait a little longer even after the movie... and this.. also thanks to you and your efforts.

thanks for confirming my suspicions.
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BTN,

I said I don´t have >ALL< the answers.

You said yourself, the material is VAST. It´s for this reason that I´m trying to answer questions where possible.

Place yourself in the position I was in last year. I had met Dan, read and digested what the story was about. Dan gets withdrawn from the public. Did I shout and scream? Demand more? No, I shrugged my shoulders and got on with life. I didn´t know whether anyone would ever hear from or of Dan Burisch again.

Time and patience is the answer.
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Boomerangs argument about no money in it was shot down in flames by Dondep.

Sorry Boomerang it aint just about Dan.

And Dondep dont kid yourself that Marcia isnt leading the charge to the dollars. Your faith is a little blind no?
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"Boomerangs argument about no money in it was shot down in flames by Dondep."

It´s not my argument.I´m stating facts. Dan Burisch has said >IF< there is profit from this debriefing he will donate to charity (from what I know of Dan, my >guess< would be a kids charity)

I cannot comment on the intentions of anyone else that may be involved because I DO NOT KNOW.
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Boomerang, thanks for your response. More or less, i got my answers. I won´t be bumping this thread again. Bye..
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The quick Dan profile is in its infancy.

Have a look,

let me know if it´s the sort of thing that you find handy/informative.

It will be extended and improved over the coming days....i´m just a bit knackered tonight + it´s Saturday!!! Relax, have a drink, we only live once!

[link to danburischinfo.95mb.com.]
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A snip from Dans latest post.


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This is complicated and so are my feelings about it, so please bear with me...

I feel that I should say that I am certainly no "holier than thou" person. I hope that I don´t come off that way, as in most ways I am no different than any other guy. Yes, some experiences and events in my life have been extraordinary. But, as I have recently addressed a new acquaintance: I believe that "the more I know, the more I owe."

I understand that I am going to have to deal with the outside world, so to speak, and I am no stranger to "diplomatic dealings", but that isn´t the real outside world, either! I will not engage in screaming matches, though, and I will not lower the content of my public debate to deal as some others have done with me.

I am, further, not ruling out any possibilities with regard to where I may have to explain myself (in the future), nor am I saying that I will never engage in a public presentation. I, simply, will not knowingly personally ´get in bed´ (a monetary definition) with anyone who wishes to perpetrate a bait-and-switch with me or the world, or launch a hoax upon the world. I have seen many (but not all) "ufo event" organizers play that game with people, and I feel that the PEOPLE deserve better! My stern attitude is toward the ones who are lying. Marcia knows this, and she also knows that, while I understand diplomacy, that my knowledge of the ways of the world, and how to "get things done" (...as I have recently informed her "You know what to do, now. Get it done."), is not as good as it needs to be, when dealing with a history and account like mine. Additionally but not subordinate to my admonition above, yes, it is true, I will sign what she will advise me to sign (regarding my account), as I TRUST HER. I have a long history with her and she has never done me wrong. She never will. So, things are soon to start playing out in a certain way. I know that, given how this old world works, some people somewhere will have something negative to say. Go ahead. I DO know which way this is "going" (as of this moment) that is true. I have authorized it for what I know are the "right reasons." Any "direct" presentations by me include the truth as I know it. It´s not pretty sometimes, but life is that way. The truth will out!
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Another snip.



Mistake? Perhaps! I just get an unusual feeling when I hear that someone has to invite RCH to a public gathering to ensure a draw and sufficient gate. It reminds me of the carnival.

Mistake? Perhaps.

I take a little different tack with things, sure I think the same things sometimes, but I often try to see the other´s perspectives (even the loud detractors) without calling them "nutcases" or the like. I am just trying to be polite, amidst accusations of "cultist", "phoney baloney", you know...all those kind of names most have left behind in grammar school.

Again, no broad brush here...but at the same time I am trying not to name names either. It is impolite. My brush with regard to whom I reference is very defined indeed.

Dan



EDIT: P.S. As for the blackops world- I won´t defend them (as a group). As for my own participation in the blackops world, I have nothing (really of any consequence) to defend with regard to my own behavior. They have found me as difficult to deal with as certain radio/circus personalities have in the outside world.

With regard to the issue of "personal self or moral determinism": I need offer no defense, as the term is "personal" and so I maintain no public defense requirement.
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Interesting link between DB and earlier ´occurences´....possibly.


From the interview with Bill Hamilton.

DB: Well the adaptive radiation occurs time past the Catastrophe…now this is according to what I’ve read. Now the only thing I can say for sure, say for damned sure, is the interaction with the being that I had at Sector 4 [S4]. Now I can say nothing authoritatively about the peculiar adaptive radiation that occurred toward Orion, the spiritual half of the species, following the Catastrophe….aside from the few things I’ve read about it and petty chat going on at, uh, Jehovah’s [Jehovah’s?!? Did we hear that right?!? –ed.], but the J-rods undergo adaptive radiation to the form that we see presently….uh, the word ‘presently’ is kind of relative when it comes to these issues now but, ‘presently’ due to time and exposure after they’ve moved off to Reticulum. The height began to decrease as a function of microevolutionary changes. The eye size, the same; the eyes started getting larger…which by the way is an interesting thing, because as the eyes were getting larger, and this was before the true darkening occurred, via the cover lenses, and the double lensing, the double lid system that they have [here Dr B toggles his fingers to describe the double eyelids of the J-rods] which is a very beautiful architecture, but the…the….something happened, with their travelling back into time….it’s part of the problem…where they actually landed in the Land of Enchantment [tag line for the State of New Mexico –ed.] before the structures changed for their eyes.

BH: [slowly, amazed] The land of enchantment…..

DB: [knowing nod] Um-hm. 1947.

BH: Okay. New Mexico, right?

DB: Yes, and I’m not so certain how close the young lady was and how this all fits in even in my own life. Miss June Crain. [remember that Dr B’s given surname was Crain, which he changed in ’95 at his own request; June Crain is mentioned in much of the lore surrounding Roswell –ed.] But the little folks which were obtained there were not fully, what I would say, fully “greys” at the time, and could not be considered fully J-rods at the time because they had not moved later on to the Gliese system to gradually hopefully try to correct the problem that they’re making worse for us but……[here Dan heaves a huge sigh] paradoxes….




Available at the link below, June Crains account.

The 65-page transcript begins with a preface by Jim Clarkson describing how he came to meet June, interview her, and gain her trust. Next is a 3-page summary cross-indexing June´s firsthand story with the Majestic Documents book. The remainder is all transcript. The highlights are breathtaking: handling unusual metal parts of the flying saucer, taking dictation from Werner Von Braun, mentions three UFO crashes, and a Top Secret Q clearance. Once she and many others were asked to sign a "TOO HOT" memo because of a careless Master Sergeant announcing he had just flown in from New Mexico with alien bodies and wreckage. The style, demeanor, and voice inflections — although not captured in the textual transcript — indicate sincerity and authenticity.

[link to www.majesticdocuments.com]
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More snips from Dan Burisch posts of late.

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Yes, I know some people want to "categorize" me, just with others, and that´s cool! For instance, I see the next wave over the horizon is that I am part of an "expanding mythology". That´s cool too, but when I look into the mirror, I just see me, with all my faults, hopes, and dreams...I just can´t get into this "Where do I fit in history?" crapola. That is for history to decide, not me, and certainly not those who want to categorize. History will do its job, it always does! But, I still thank God I have an angel on my shoulder predicting wave periodicity!

Others want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. They promote one, then when another confirms "some" of that person´s account, they say it can´t be because anyone able to say such things would be in jail! What a load of double standard B.S.! It´s an emotional reaction on their part, of course!

That is something of which I have noticed quite a bit, the double standard and the necessity for my "square peg" appearing account to either fit into their "round hole" board of reality or it just can´t be! There are so many things about this universe that I don´t know (that none of us do), I could never make such a proclamation. They must be the smart ones, though, as I am sure their polygraphs have verified it! Some say I have declared that other "aliens" simply don´t exist, that I have said that the only extraterrestrials are future humans. Then, after making such a fraudulant proclamation, they accuse me of lying! These people obviously know NOTHING of compartmentalized work!

The latest thing being sat upon my desk is a print of what I call the "Riskers Scenario" and "Just how did the B.A.R. discovery get named that way and why? Inquiring minds want to know!" I asked myself if I should tell everyone, then said...in the spirit of your statement...naaaaaaa, I think I´ll have a little fun waiting! I want to see just how far-out their conspiracy story gets before I tell the truth on ´em! I am sure it will be ready for the tabloids soon!

Gosh!

Truth be told, if any long lasting "mythology" does get developed from all this, it will be done by the "detractors with agendae". (...not the honest inquiring people...) God bless them and their little piece of sand they just keep polishing!

See! I still can get a good laugh at all of the nonsense!

Dan
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Mr. RB
So much to read in all this threads. Could we not concentrate on BILL´s
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Mr Jan,

I need to explain why I started this thread.

I´m not here for my own benefit but to point any interested people in the right direction.

Unfortunately, a few people have, and are, making comments about Dan that are unfounded. Someone such as myself, a believer in >TRUTH<, feels it my duty to show how the accusations are false. Not by arguing about it, but letting the people know where they can read for themselves.

I want to offer people that maybe haven´t heard of Dan and his work the opportunity to get a feel for it, assess it for themselves and ask questions if they want to.

[link to www.tonicvision.tv]


[link to danburischinfo.95mb.com.]
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Update to tell you I can´t update you as I have temporarily lost access to update material.....

I have heard rumours though.....but not interested in those are we.

We deal with facts.

Fact.

The affidavit that Dan Burisch has provided is the real deal.

This is the first time in HISTORY that such has occurred.

Let those that issue false statements about the veracity of Dan Burisch and his work prepare to eat humble pie.....



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I agree with Boomer, Kbum. He knows what he’s doing.headbang




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Proof is not all that important. Knowing is. - Thessa

New perspectives and key hints can change our reality. - Thessa
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Thanks Thessa,

I´m a believer in telling it as it is, not how I might like it to be.

As an aside, Dr Dan Burisch was the co-author of ´Eagles Disobey, the case for Inca City Mars´. He was investigating the anomolies that the NASA images show.

See Book cover here.

[link to danburischinfo.95mb.com.]

Have you seen the images here? One of these days, something WILL be discovered that´s going to overthrow everything we think we know about the past.

[link to www.rense.com]
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I know i promised not to bump this again but one ( hopefully) last question..

what do you make of this?

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Victor
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8:52 pm EDT Re: I AM NOT DEAD - But MANY of us WILL DIE SOON. I have more to tell now.

Ok I hate to admit this, but part of that Burisch bullshit is true. Only a little part of it. The part about the world living in a loop. The alien part is just sensationalism. Its disinfo.


[link to tinyurl.com]

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BTN,

I haven´t been following the victor thread so I have no idea. It might be worth you asking him to expand upon that comment?

Do me a small favour though. Judge for yourself from the evidence, disregard what people tell you when they have nothing to present for your consideration....and.......don´t allow personal likes/dislikes of individuals to sway your judgement.

I´ll be posting a link to volume one of the ´Eagles unchained´ book shortly. Good read, plenty of information to consider.
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Mr. Boomer Can it be that Stargate is down or under maintenance this moment. No contact all day now. (started gmt 8.00 and now it is 13.50.
Is that normal or something else.

JAn (BTW I can´t find my avatar)
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I´ve mentioned it to Bill already Mr Jan.

Have to wait and see.
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Boom UJ´s site is down as well, must be problems with Great Boards???
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Sounds like a general problem with the Greatboards then.

Patience.....


Here´s Eagles Unchained Volume one for anyone that isn´t familiar with it.

There are 6 volumes in total.

[link to danburischinfo.95mb.com.]
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09/19/2005 10:17 AM
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Re: Dr Dan Burisch Information
Yeah… Great Boards are having problems… again…blink


Just when I was about to post some alien relate mind boggling stuff at UJ’s….

Maybe not so much mind boggling… better saying some “think outside of the box” stuff…


Isn’t that cool?...

Our minds have been stretching so consistently to absorb new concepts/information that we already have two kinds of alien relate stuff to consider…


….mainstream alien stuff, huh huh?...


…and “suspend belief” / ”think outside the box” alien stuff…


*wink*, *wink*


alien11whip


:)

Thessa
Proof is not all that important. Knowing is. - Thessa

New perspectives and key hints can change our reality. - Thessa
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09/19/2005 12:25 PM
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A guest came on Stargate late last night and was supposedly sending Don proof of Dan´s PhD.
"K" from Britain?





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