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Did Jesus *ever* rebuke non-religious people for their unbelief?

 
MuadDib987 (nli)
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Did Jesus *ever* rebuke non-religious people for their unbelief?
Wasn't He talking to disciples every time He used the phrase "ye of little faith"? And wasn't it always because they doubted that He would or could do something beneficial?

Aren't the Pharisees the only group He ever got ugly with?
Wasn't He called the "Friend of sinners"? Did He even once refute this assertion?
Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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Wasn't He talking to disciples every time He used the phrase "ye of little faith"? And wasn't it always because they doubted that He would or could do something beneficial?

 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


Hello OP,

IMHO, I think his disciples stumbled all over the place until they received The Holy Spirit.

They they knew the power.

peace,
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Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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Re: Did Jesus *ever* rebuke non-religious people for their unbelief?
You're right mate. 100%.

Dogma won't touch on truth... Belief can't pierce beyond is and is-not. Categorising the great beyond? Even in the OT one man says: 'Who can give a name to God?.. With what can God be compared?' - My thoughts on the subject, basically.

People think belief is definitive of a person's character... It's really not.

'There are many Christians not of my church.'
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Jesus was only peeved with those who should have known better -- his own followers and the religious/political Jewish elite. Thank God, his true followers finally took a cue from him and learned what it meant to be his disciple (better late than never). Most of the elite never did learn that lesson, and were lost.


Sound familiar?


As they say: "The more things change.... (the more things stay the same!).


As for Jesus getting in unbelievers' faces -- other than for that one minor interchange with the Samarian woman at the well, he left them alone. His mission was to preach the Good News to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not to the "heathen".


Good reminder, OP.
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 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


Sorry OP... Let me try again.

Who is NOT a sinner?

Who thought they were without sin?

peace,
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 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


Sorry OP... Let me try again.

Who is NOT a sinner?

Who thought they were without sin?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


To expand my point. Jesus Christ is the only one who was/is without sin. Yes, he loves the sinner.

Who is a sinner? IMHO, a sinner is one who knows he has faults and can admit he has not been pleasing or lived up to Gods expectations and wants/needs to be healed. A sinner is one who realizes that he is sick and not able to change his ways in his own power and needs a doctor to make him well. He needs someone to pick him up and dust him off and help him out.

The Pharisees did not see themselves as such. They were the ones who prayed "I thank you God that I am not like other men..." They were legalists who thought they pleased God by their own works and traditions. They did not see themselves as sinners in need of a savior.

The Pharisees had no fellowship with Christ because they did not see themselves as naked and in need of his covering. Even as Adam and Eve hid themselves when they became aware they were naked, even so sin causes us to hide ourselves from God today. But The Spirit Of Jesus Christ gives a man the power to overcome those things which separate a man from fellowship with God. His Holy Spirit gives a man power over the things which cause him to stumble and separate himself from God. His Spirit is a covering for our nakedness. For those who put on Christ as such a covering.

JMHO.

peace,
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 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


Sorry OP... Let me try again.

Who is NOT a sinner?

Who thought they were without sin?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


To expand my point. Jesus Christ is the only one who was/is without sin. Yes, he loves the sinner.

Who is a sinner? IMHO, a sinner is one who knows he has faults and can admit he has not been pleasing or lived up to Gods expectations and wants/needs to be healed. A sinner is one who realizes that he is sick and not able to change his ways in his own power and needs a doctor to make him well. He needs someone to pick him up and dust him off and help him out.

The Pharisees did not see themselves as such. They were the ones who prayed "I thank you God that I am not like other men..." They were legalists who thought they pleased God by their own works and traditions. They did not see themselves as sinners in need of a savior.

The Pharisees had no fellowship with Christ because they did not see themselves as naked and in need of his covering. Even as Adam and Eve hid themselves when they became aware they were naked, even so sin causes us to hide ourselves from God today. But The Spirit Of Jesus Christ gives a man the power to overcome those things which separate a man from fellowship with God. His Holy Spirit gives a man power over the things which cause him to stumble and separate himself from God. His Spirit is a covering for our nakedness. For those who put on Christ as such a covering.

JMHO.

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


Romans 3:23 (KJV)
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;


"Some of Jesus' first words as he entered into his earthly ministry were, 'REPENT ye and BELIEVE the gospel.' He also said, 'Unless ye REPENT ye shall likewise perish.' When looking at the word repent, we find it, and the concept of it, throughout the entire Bible. Repentance is not simply a mental ascent to the fact that Jesus Christ is the only way to save our soul. It is about a change of AUTHORITY in our lives.
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 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


Sorry OP... Let me try again.

Who is NOT a sinner?

Who thought they were without sin?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


To expand my point. Jesus Christ is the only one who was/is without sin. Yes, he loves the sinner.

Who is a sinner? IMHO, a sinner is one who knows he has faults and can admit he has not been pleasing or lived up to Gods expectations and wants/needs to be healed. A sinner is one who realizes that he is sick and not able to change his ways in his own power and needs a doctor to make him well. He needs someone to pick him up and dust him off and help him out.

The Pharisees did not see themselves as such. They were the ones who prayed "I thank you God that I am not like other men..." They were legalists who thought they pleased God by their own works and traditions. They did not see themselves as sinners in need of a savior.

The Pharisees had no fellowship with Christ because they did not see themselves as naked and in need of his covering. Even as Adam and Eve hid themselves when they became aware they were naked, even so sin causes us to hide ourselves from God today. But The Spirit Of Jesus Christ gives a man the power to overcome those things which separate a man from fellowship with God. His Holy Spirit gives a man power over the things which cause him to stumble and separate himself from God. His Spirit is a covering for our nakedness. For those who put on Christ as such a covering.

JMHO.

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


Romans 3:23 (KJV)
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;


"Some of Jesus' first words as he entered into his earthly ministry were, 'REPENT ye and BELIEVE the gospel.' He also said, 'Unless ye REPENT ye shall likewise perish.' When looking at the word repent, we find it, and the concept of it, throughout the entire Bible. Repentance is not simply a mental ascent to the fact that Jesus Christ is the only way to save our soul. It is about a change of AUTHORITY in our lives.
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 Quoting: Freedomhrt


Thanks for posting that. I agree.

Consider the devils. They knows who The Christ is, but they do not willingly submit to the will of God.

Even so, many today say they believe, but they do not submit to his authority in their lives. They do not set down the sin of self and follow him.

Essentially, they want their cake and eat it too, but this is not what Christ taught and it is not what scripture teaches.

peace,
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Re: Did Jesus *ever* rebuke non-religious people for their unbelief?
bump

Probably 90% (or more) of warnings and chastisements in scripture are directed at God's people
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Sorry OP... Let me try again.

Who is NOT a sinner?

Who thought they were without sin?

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


To expand my point. Jesus Christ is the only one who was/is without sin. Yes, he loves the sinner.

Who is a sinner? IMHO, a sinner is one who knows he has faults and can admit he has not been pleasing or lived up to Gods expectations and wants/needs to be healed. A sinner is one who realizes that he is sick and not able to change his ways in his own power and needs a doctor to make him well. He needs someone to pick him up and dust him off and help him out.

The Pharisees did not see themselves as such. They were the ones who prayed "I thank you God that I am not like other men..." They were legalists who thought they pleased God by their own works and traditions. They did not see themselves as sinners in need of a savior.

The Pharisees had no fellowship with Christ because they did not see themselves as naked and in need of his covering. Even as Adam and Eve hid themselves when they became aware they were naked, even so sin causes us to hide ourselves from God today. But The Spirit Of Jesus Christ gives a man the power to overcome those things which separate a man from fellowship with God. His Holy Spirit gives a man power over the things which cause him to stumble and separate himself from God. His Spirit is a covering for our nakedness. For those who put on Christ as such a covering.

JMHO.

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


Romans 3:23 (KJV)
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;


"Some of Jesus' first words as he entered into his earthly ministry were, 'REPENT ye and BELIEVE the gospel.' He also said, 'Unless ye REPENT ye shall likewise perish.' When looking at the word repent, we find it, and the concept of it, throughout the entire Bible. Repentance is not simply a mental ascent to the fact that Jesus Christ is the only way to save our soul. It is about a change of AUTHORITY in our lives.
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 Quoting: Freedomhrt


Thanks for posting that. I agree.

Consider the devils. They knows who The Christ is, but they do not willingly submit to the will of God.

Even so, many today say they believe, but they do not submit to his authority in their lives. They do not set down the sin of self and follow him.

Essentially, they want their cake and eat it too, but this is not what Christ taught and it is not what scripture teaches.

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


Amen!
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Re: Did Jesus *ever* rebuke non-religious people for their unbelief?
Yes. He rebuked the religious leaders called the Pharisees.
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Yes. He rebuked the religious leaders called the Pharisees.
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Religion is man made.
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Jesus was only peeved with those who should have known better -- his own followers and the religious/political Jewish elite. Thank God, his true followers finally took a cue from him and learned what it meant to be his disciple (better late than never). Most of the elite never did learn that lesson, and were lost.


Sound familiar?


As they say: "The more things change.... (the more things stay the same!).


As for Jesus getting in unbelievers' faces -- other than for that one minor interchange with the Samarian woman at the well, he left them alone. His mission was to preach the Good News to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not to the "heathen".


Good reminder, OP.
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This, yet the stupid heathen worship Paul who said otherwise.
This is the fate of man. He must strive for that which he cannot attain. He must believe in that which he cannot prove. He must seek that which he cannot find. He must travel a road without knowing his destination. Only thus can the purpose of life be fulfilled.

For I tell you, God will not do things you are too apathetic to do for yourselves.
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There is no such thing as sin.
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Please pray for me: I used to be a Good Christian™, until I got a hold of some kind of fruity "love" bullshit and decided I need to be less harsh on people.
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:big bump: for concurrent relevance
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See: Romans
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See: Romans
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Can you narrow it down a little for us? Off the top of my head, I recall that Romans 11 mentions God deliberately keeping some folks in unbelief so that when the time of reckoning comes, He can have mercy upon them.
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bump because no one apparently cares to answer a simple question.
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bump because no one apparently cares to answer a simple question.
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The Church started after his death. He rebuked Israel for their unbelief.
He rebuked the woman at the well for her "husbands".
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Re: Did Jesus *ever* rebuke non-religious people for their unbelief?
Wasn't He talking to disciples every time He used the phrase "ye of little faith"? And wasn't it always because they doubted that He would or could do something beneficial?

Aren't the Pharisees the only group He ever got ugly with?
Wasn't He called the "Friend of sinners"? Did He even once refute this assertion?
 Quoting: MuadDib987 (nli)


Exactly, the only people He ever accused of Sinning where the Pharisee's, Religious Institutes and Roman Rule.
The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer.
Justice found
Equals
Satan
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Shamelessly
It's not me, I am not Him
Freedom
From
Fear
The Key To Troublesome Peace
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He rebuked the woman at the well for her "husbands".
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Can you quote this rebuke for us? I don't recall Him saying one word to her about repentance or judgment, and the next thing you know they're discussing worship. . .despite her apparent state of unrighteousness.
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He called John the Baptest the greatest man born and John sure rebuked sinners. In fact it got him beheaded.
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Why didn't Jesus climb on her face and condemn her like we hardcore Christers would?

hmm
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Why didn't Jesus climb on her face and condemn her like we hardcore Christers would?

hmm
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Hmm, some day YOU will get the chance to ask him.
Better work on your delivery.
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He rebuked the woman at the well for her "husbands".
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Can you quote this rebuke for us? I don't recall Him saying one word to her about repentance or judgment, and the next thing you know they're discussing worship. . .despite her apparent state of unrighteousness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


That's because He advocated Monogomy and she had laid with several men.
The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer.
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He called John the Baptest the greatest man born and John sure rebuked sinners. In fact it got him beheaded.
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You remember His Story started with Him Being Crucified?
The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer.
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Better work on your delivery.
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Too soft? Got it ;)
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Re: Did Jesus *ever* rebuke non-religious people for their unbelief?
He rebuked the woman at the well for her "husbands".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419030


Can you quote this rebuke for us? I don't recall Him saying one word to her about repentance or judgment, and the next thing you know they're discussing worship. . .despite her apparent state of unrighteousness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


That's because He advocated Monogomy and she had laid with several men.
 Quoting: HilosPP


I understand that, but AC states that He rebuked her, and I don't think He did any such thing. The first thing He said to her was "Give me a drink of that".