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ELEnin and Nibiru: Code Cracked? - My Theory... Been Researching For Months... You've Never read this before!

 
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If you indeed "know for a fact" magnetism effects gravity you should have no trouble demonstrating that with something more compelling than proof by repeated assertion, arm waving and appeals to dubious websites.

And what experiment or observation would convice you you idea is wrong, and why do you so carefully avoid this simple question?
 Quoting: The Commentator


I answered your question already.

When I put magnets together, they can attract or repel / levitate without the need for gravity. Therefore, we can assume that Magnetism is not affected by Gravity what so ever.

Show me an experiment where gravity affects magnetism and forces it to stop functioning properly.
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Humor me, please answer the question again, clearly I missed it, my apologies up front.

Now, if gravity and magnetism are the same, why does gravity decline according to the inverse square law, but magnetism declines by the inverse cube law.

Were your claim true you could not predict the orbits of spacecraft, planets and stars, indeed the outer planets should not be there at all because their kinetic energy would be greater than the magnetic potential energy and they should fly off into space. Yet that has not happened.

So tell us, how do you account for this fatal flaw in your hypothesis?
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If they are one in the same force, the calculations would remain the same would they not?

I'd love to release a giant magnetic probe into space and see what it did.
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OP I only read page one, but I would like to point out from the outset that magnetism can be controlled via electrical charge and we do not have this same control over gravity, if this point has already been made I apologize

try my theory, gravity is actually a byproduct of the expansion of the universe on an exponential level that cannot otherwise be measured because the measuring devices are all expanding at the same rate

tiny variations of the expansion explain many cosmic anomalies
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^^This is 100% correct.^^ I wasn't even going to post anything I was just reading others talking about things they know nothing about.
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Then when her theory has been sufficiently debunked she follows up with this!

Newton's Rival 2 weeks ago

@ Effiluc, precisely. @ Manna, First off let me explain why I don't believe the above theory is accurate. It was at first my understanding that the Earth kept a constant axis of the North being pushed outward from the Sun at all times during rotation around the Sun. However, I am finding difficulty establishing this as accurate. It has been suggested that the Earth actually shifts the north part of itself towards the sun when half way through rotation around the sun. I cannot seem to find any real research on this. Not even from Nasa. If It does in fact stay the way I claim it does, then ok, I can move forward in working out the bugs of the above theory. However if it doesn't The theory (in theory) is wrong. ( keeping in mind , that I believe irregardless they are still one in the same force irregardless), as for the "various" string theories, I could give a shit less. There is only ONE real answer, and that is why I am here. I want to put this puzzle together, nail that fu**er to a wall, and be done with it! I want to PROVE it. So it is no longer a theory but Fact that is undisputed to everyone else.
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All she did is admit she needs to do further investigation... She clearly said her theory is NOT wrong.
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Okay boys, Good debate... I have been on here too long today and I need to go shower and stuff.

The truth will become evident in the next few months anyways... Whether Nibiru is real or not... I don't know, nobody knows.

But IF a large planet is indeed entering our solar system... We can all agree that something is wrong with Gravity, because we should already be seeing massive perturbations.

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Then when her theory has been sufficiently debunked she follows up with this!

Newton's Rival 2 weeks ago

@ Effiluc, precisely. @ Manna, First off let me explain why I don't believe the above theory is accurate. It was at first my understanding that the Earth kept a constant axis of the North being pushed outward from the Sun at all times during rotation around the Sun. However, I am finding difficulty establishing this as accurate. It has been suggested that the Earth actually shifts the north part of itself towards the sun when half way through rotation around the sun. I cannot seem to find any real research on this. Not even from Nasa. If It does in fact stay the way I claim it does, then ok, I can move forward in working out the bugs of the above theory. However if it doesn't The theory (in theory) is wrong. ( keeping in mind , that I believe irregardless they are still one in the same force irregardless), as for the "various" string theories, I could give a shit less. There is only ONE real answer, and that is why I am here. I want to put this puzzle together, nail that fu**er to a wall, and be done with it! I want to PROVE it. So it is no longer a theory but Fact that is undisputed to everyone else.
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Apparently he never heard of conservation of angular momentum, or that spinning objects tend to remain fixed in inertial space. No surprise really, but a wonderful chewtoy!
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Ok, then why are the most magnetic bodies in the known universe also extremely active emitters of electromagnetic radation?

Magnetic Neutron Star (Magnetar)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

A magnetar is a type of neutron star with an extremely powerful magnetic field, the decay of which powers the emission of copious amounts of high-energy electromagnetic radiation
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I made the connection between electricity and magnetism on the first page.

"A moving current of electrons produces a magnetic field. The electric force and magnetic force are one in the same: The electromagnetic force"

I don't understand what you are implying.
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If a mass has a high magnetic field and you propose that this would prevent EM emissions from escaping the body into the ambient environment, then would it not stand to reason that the stellar bodies with the strongest magnetic fields emit the least amount of EM?

In other words, you cannot propose that a brown dwarf cannot be seen due to it's magnetic field, if the most magnetic stars known to astrophysics are quite active EM emitters... does this logic not penetrate deeply into the heart of what you are trying to get at?
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Are you implying that a Magnetar is of the same composition and has the same magnetic field/structure as a Brown Dwarf?

"The magnetar itself is not visible at this wavelength, but it has been seen in X-ray light."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I don't see your argument, Magnetar has an exceptionally strong Magnetic field and cannot be seen at standard wavelengths.
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I'm implying that the situation is more complicated that your statements which seem to simply that a strong magnetic field has a direct relationship to a stellar body's EM emissions.
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Joined the forum yesterday and post this crap. Golfers clap. Shill!
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[link to www.scribd.com]

Our Earth IS Hollow! -- The Scientific EvidenceSource: Our Hollow Earth! [link to www.ourhollowearth.com] let us take the evidence of the scientific community as presented by John M. Prytz in his article, "The Hollow Earth Hoax,"and see how well his evidence recorded in high school texts, even in elementary texts, stands up against the first-hand observationsof trained observers.etc....

Interesting study you might want to look into OP.
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I wouldn't really call this a "theory" per say because all of this has essentially already been put out there. Could this be what is happening? Sure, but until NASA or someone puts out more info we aren't going to know until everything gets here.

I do know that Christ said there would be signs in the heavens, the sun, moon and stars. And that men will tremble terribly in fear for what is coming upon the earth. I'd say something is going to happen just don't know what..
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I really see no point in debating this anyway. If there is a planetary cluster entering the solar system and Elenin is its sentinel, whether gravity or magnetism is responsible for wiping us out makes no difference to me. I only want credible disclosure in order to properly prepare my spirit. There is no denying that something big is on the precipice of affecting the entire planet, whether natural or artificial. Thanks for the insight OP and even some of the skeptics. I appreciate it!
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If you indeed "know for a fact" magnetism effects gravity you should have no trouble demonstrating that with something more compelling than proof by repeated assertion, arm waving and appeals to dubious websites.

And what experiment or observation would convice you you idea is wrong, and why do you so carefully avoid this simple question?
 Quoting: The Commentator


I answered your question already.

When I put magnets together, they can attract or repel / levitate without the need for gravity. Therefore, we can assume that Magnetism is not affected by Gravity what so ever.

Show me an experiment where gravity affects magnetism and forces it to stop functioning properly.
 Quoting: Practically ET


Humor me, please answer the question again, clearly I missed it, my apologies up front.

Now, if gravity and magnetism are the same, why does gravity decline according to the inverse square law, but magnetism declines by the inverse cube law.

Were your claim true you could not predict the orbits of spacecraft, planets and stars, indeed the outer planets should not be there at all because their kinetic energy would be greater than the magnetic potential energy and they should fly off into space. Yet that has not happened.

So tell us, how do you account for this fatal flaw in your hypothesis?
 Quoting: The Commentator


If they are one in the same force, the calculations would remain the same would they not?

I'd love to release a giant magnetic probe into space and see what it did.
 Quoting: Practically ET


No, the calculations would NOT be the same. If you take a gravitational field which measures 1 unit of gravity at distance X and double that distance X the gravity felt at 2X is 1/4 that felt at 1X. Double the distance and the force is 25% of half that distance.

measure a magnetic field at distance X, assume you measure one unit of magnetism. Double the distance and you only measure 12.5% of the measurement at half the distance.

Thus, simple observation shows your hypothesis is not verified by experiment or observation.

Sorry, you have been a wonderful chewtoy, but your idea is, well, just wrong. Of course you could have avoided making a fool of yourself in public if you had simply stated you had a religious idea and not a scientific one.

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pinned my ass. So you have figured out what??? you have taken info you have read and taken the bits you want to believe the most and put it together.

Bravo!! pishh!!! what part of this isn't made up from everybody else's THEORY?? and just to point out you must dive much deeper than a shit theory written by some stoned student on gravity having anything to do with magnetism.

Go and learn the theory's of Stephen hawking who teaches the work of Einstein that to this day can NOT be fucked with and haven't been proven wrong. rant
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I think our understanding our magnetism is so primitive
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Stop making shit up and get some little debbies.

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I see, so my college education which includes Physics II does not qualify me to think outside the box.

Little debbies are good, But I am a Vegan and don't eat that shit.

Thanks for the valuable input to this thread.
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demand your money back, clearly you were not taught anything.
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OP I only read page one, but I would like to point out from the outset that magnetism can be controlled via electrical charge and we do not have this same control over gravity, if this point has already been made I apologize

try my theory, gravity is actually a byproduct of the expansion of the universe on an exponential level that cannot otherwise be measured because the measuring devices are all expanding at the same rate

tiny variations of the expansion explain many cosmic anomalies
 Quoting: Swordtongue 1487755


^^This is 100% correct.^^ I wasn't even going to post anything I was just reading others talking about things they know nothing about.
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hey thanks for the encouragement, Ive been kicking this idea around for a few years and I have yet to figure out why expansion would cause orbits but I have a hunch it has to do with transitions of force to dimensions we do not fully understand, for instance the inertia of an object traveling in a straight line in relation to another object is actually an illusion, the exponential expansion makes objects that are really traveling independently remain within the same relative realm because as they expand they displace space itself and create the illusion of orbit, which is of course similar to general relativity but there are so many unanswered questions in that theory I do not persue it, for example not exceeding the speed of light which is horseshit and can be disproved in a paragraph; I will be happy to do just that should anyone request
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The trick is a property of bismuth called diamagnetism....:


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Okay boys, Good debate... I have been on here too long today and I need to go shower and stuff.

The truth will become evident in the next few months anyways... Whether Nibiru is real or not... I don't know, nobody knows.

But IF a large planet is indeed entering our solar system... We can all agree that something is wrong with Gravity, because we should already be seeing massive perturbations.

peace
 Quoting: Practically ET


Nice work defending your theory OP!!


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HEY GLP!

We are ALL correct on this issue!

and in Sep. 2011, we will all find out!

and in Dec. 2012, again, we will all find out!

if nothing happens? THEN HURRAY! WE'RE GONNA LIVE!

but......if we (the belivers of The End) are correct...then, shit, some of us here in this forum are going to die.

perhaps all of us.
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You sound like Hoagland
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I challenge anyone to debunk the theory I have presented... Seeing Michio Kaku not able to debunk that magnetism Is gravity made me realize a lot of things.
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I think you're definitely on to something OP. I myself have concluded that gravity is not a force unto itself but merely an effect of electromagnetism. I think Elenin is Nibiru though, this "comet" business is merely a cover story I think.
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You sound like Hoagland
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I challenge anyone to debunk the theory I have presented... Seeing Michio Kaku not able to debunk that magnetism Is gravity made me realize a lot of things.
 Quoting: Practically ET


I think you're definitely on to something OP. I myself have concluded that gravity is not a force unto itself but merely an effect of electromagnetism. I think Elenin is Nibiru though, this "comet" business is merely a cover story I think.
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Good luck with that! Wanna make a wager on it?
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Okay boys, Good debate... I have been on here too long today and I need to go shower and stuff.

The truth will become evident in the next few months anyways... Whether Nibiru is real or not... I don't know, nobody knows.

But IF a large planet is indeed entering our solar system... We can all agree that something is wrong with Gravity, because we should already be seeing massive perturbations.

peace
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Indeed, it was entertaining and stimulating! Like i said, we are friends reguardless and i respect you and your mind whether we agree or not.
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Okay boys, Good debate... I have been on here too long today and I need to go shower and stuff.

The truth will become evident in the next few months anyways... Whether Nibiru is real or not... I don't know, nobody knows.

But IF a large planet is indeed entering our solar system... We can all agree that something is wrong with Gravity, because we should already be seeing massive perturbations.

peace
 Quoting: Practically ET


Nice work defending your theory OP!!


Stuff that makes you go,...

Hmmmm



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Yup good job, maybe next time your peers can help you out a bit!
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I really see no point in debating this anyway. If there is a planetary cluster entering the solar system and Elenin is its sentinel, whether gravity or magnetism is responsible for wiping us out makes no difference to me. I only want credible disclosure in order to properly prepare my spirit. There is no denying that something big is on the precipice of affecting the entire planet, whether natural or artificial. Thanks for the insight OP and even some of the skeptics. I appreciate it!
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Can't say I disagree!
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Okay boys, Good debate... I have been on here too long today and I need to go shower and stuff.

The truth will become evident in the next few months anyways... Whether Nibiru is real or not... I don't know, nobody knows.

But IF a large planet is indeed entering our solar system... We can all agree that something is wrong with Gravity, because we should already be seeing massive perturbations.

peace
 Quoting: Practically ET


Indeed, it was entertaining and stimulating! Like i said, we are friends reguardless and i respect you and your mind whether we agree or not.
 Quoting: DaNose


Agreed, very simulating and fun.

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could your theory op, have anything to do with
the latest 15 or so crop circles
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... and always the question ... WHEN ... and am I ... or my children or ... the childrens' children to worry? ...
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Nibiru can alter course at any moment, that's why TPTB have such a hard time tracking it and preparing to move to the bunkers.

Even the "Doctor" that spotted the dark object behind Elenin noted that it stops and then starts moving again.

Nibiru is of intelligent design and intelligent control, meaning that it can appear instantly without warning.

There really is no way to tell when it will make it's approach... Theoretically speaking, the final decision is up to the ruler of the planet, Lord Anu... If you believe that Nibiru is indeed inhabited by the Annunaki.

We are technically Anu's grandchildren, and we have grown a lot... There is probably a lot of discussion going on right now about what to do with our civilization. We have come so far that it seems like a shame to wipe us all out at once, but who knows what Anu has in store for humanity... There is really no way to tell.
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new aged stuff, go with the bible cuz Im telling you, you'll find its the New Jerusalem thats coming towards us and the driver is non other than Jesus Christ. Before it leaves us there will be a wild and terrible meteor shower and torrential rain. The bible repeats itself. If it were not for God's promise not to flood the world again, it would because we are at the point in history opposite the flood of Noah. I don't know what will happen next after that but it will be wild. Anu, whoever that is, can't/won't save you but Jesus will. You have to ask first though.
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Magnetism = gravity
the moon circles the earth
the earth is magnetic
the moon is not magnetic
Oopsie

Therefore Gravity not= to gravity

QED
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After reading that 90 page report on Elenin and Nibiru and listening to a ton of other sources... I believe I have actually cracked the Elenin and Nibiru code.

Ladies and gentlemen, grab a beer or a coffee, because you're in for an interesting ride.

- - -

First we must dive deeper into the real science behind the universe... There are some people that think Gravity and Magnetism are one in the same force...
As shown by [link to hubpages.com]

And if you look at the comments, Michio Kaku even claims that he can't disprove her statement. In fact, she told Michio to "ask for a refund on your million dollar education".

So lets say Tyche / Nibiru is similar to a large magnet, and all the planets in our solar system are smaller magnets. Based on this principle, a planet could be extremely close to us without "perturbing" the inner planets, because Gravity is essentially non existent. To take it even further, Mass would not directly affect Gravity as it does in our current understanding of physics.

Therefore, instead of "perturbing" the planets, this giant magnet would 'tilt' the planets as if to repel and attract the poles. Using this theory, we could explain why Uranus is tilted, along with several other solar system anomalies seen over the years.

Of course, when performing orbital simulations, the software is taking into account both gravity and magnetism as separate forces which is why you see such drastic perturbations.

Now, remember that thread "Elenin is moving at a planetary speed"?

Well, that's really important because my theory is that Elenin is Nibiru's "Pluto" if you will. It's the first thing that a solar system comes in contact with before the actual planet arrives.

Elenin is 'leading' Nibiru on it's journey throughout the Galaxy (I should explain, Nibiru in theory is a 'planetary vessel' with no set orbit... You may relate better to the wording 'death star' or 'battle ship/planet') announcing the arrival of the grand planet.

This would explain why Elenin is moving at a planetary speed, because it is in direct contact with a planet body behind it, Similar to how the Sun travels through the Galaxy... If we were entering another solar system, Pluto would be the first to enter.

Now, My theory is that Elenin is actually not a comet... So then we have a few options for what it can be.

My first thought for Elenin is a dwarf planet with a small mass similar to Pluto... But larger than a comet.

The second option is that Elenin is a 'energy messenger' traveling in the form of a comet. More or less, if we can receive the message, Elenin is going to 'announce' the arrival of Nibiru for all those that know how to decipher the message.

One way or another... We're in for an interesting ride!!!
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hmmmmm.....interesting OP - seriously. I don't know what is going to happen this Fall, but I do strongly feel like SOMETHING will. I just hope it is not too devastating....I've got 3 small kids =(
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07/29/2011 10:23 PM
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Re: ELEnin and Nibiru: Code Cracked? - My Theory... Been Researching For Months... You've Never read this before!
My bad

that should be Gravity not= magnetism QED
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07/29/2011 10:37 PM
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Re: ELEnin and Nibiru: Code Cracked? - My Theory... Been Researching For Months... You've Never read this before!
first of all everything you learned is a bold face lie, the second thing is GOD has no rules.


third if our planet was traveling through space at 17,000 miles per hr, we would have no cloud cover, it would blow away.


fourth, yall are screwed, you brought the lie hook line and sinker.


the truth you run from, so the short story is, it's over!!!

if your here jan. 2013. you will understand what i have been saying and know the rest is history. your all dead men walking.

i wish i could bring you the truth, but i would rather not waste my time...
 Quoting: chipg


I agree on the "everything we have learned" has been BS. The schools only teach enough to confuse everyone with lies and BS. Tells us what you suspect or know!





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