ELEnin and Nibiru: Code Cracked? - My Theory... Been Researching For Months... You've Never read this before!

And what makes you think, OP, that the wedsite you cited is correct other than the fact you agree with what it says with no proof or even rational evidence cited?

Provide evidence that a "Graviton" exists... Stalemate.

"Graviton is a hypothetical elementary particle"

Last Edited by AntiPC on 07/29/2011 06:42 PM

I have to point out it is electro-magnetism
rather than just magnetism
that acts the way we've thought about gravity.

I've thought Planet X (Nibiru) refers to the comet swarm that can alter our magnetosphere, but I am open again to the theory that it is just one planet.
Waiting to see if Elenin is more significant than the previous ones in this last decade.

I've always though this Planet X story was another Sun with planets that we cross with at some set time.

Weren't the 'experts' trying to decode the Mayan glyphs Pwned by a kid because the kid wasn't blinded by science?

How are we looking at this? At a macro or micro level? Don't get so deep into this you forget to have fun!

I've read your initial post as a "Hey guys what do you think about this idea"... Cool I say, lets have a look see!

I've actually pulled a couple of my old college physics books off my shelf and had a read of them!

"To discover the laws of nature, we must perform experiments. Only by experiment can we test the exact way in which nature behaves. Unfortunately, no experiment can be perfectly precise. As a result, we can never be sure that a law we believe to be true is exactly correct. Some still more precise measurement may show a slight deviation from what we have come to expect.

For example, Einstein showed, as a part of his theory of relativity, that the assumed law 'Matter can neither be created nor destroyed' was not correct. The concept of nuclear energy results from this hard-to-detect discrepancy."

For the last 30 years of his life, Albert Einstein diligently struggled to connect Gravity to his E=mc2 energy equation. The search is over. The solution is astounding.

Here are the 40 most important facts to first realize, of which the first few are physical and Mathematical absolutes.

To suggest that they are only "coincidences" is a mere act of absurdity. [link to www.members.shaw.ca]

That is an interesting thesis!


Here is another find that I and others have posted here at times... [link to www3.sympatico.ca]


Where you can find this translation,

"THE NATURAL PHENOMENA
OF ANTIGRAVITATION AND
INVISIBILITY IN INSECTS
AND THE GREBENNIKOV
CAVITY STRUCTURES
EFFECT"

[link to www3.sympatico.ca]


I found this site in a thread here and sent for the book and received it. [link to hercolubus.tv]
Summed up it is a warning about Hercolubus the Red Planet heading our way from a spiritual individual that used Astral Projection/Dream Walking to see this.

Are we to believe this and others who have had dreams?

I would have to take what he wrote under consideration just like I do this, Matthew 1:20, But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. KJV (Understand the implication here?)

I see greed getting in the way of a lot of this. That and are we as a species responsible enough to handle this if it is to be used for our benefit and not our destruction?

Did you really just do this? Are you just fucking with me or are you really

What do you think G-force refers to? Doesn't gravity have to be a real force if you can measure it?

I agree that electromagnetism can have an affect on gravity but that doesn't mean gravity doesn't exist!

Gravity
Of these forces, gravity has the furthest reach but it's the weakest in actual magnitude.
It is a purely attractive force which reaches through even the "empty" void of space to draw two masses toward each other. It keeps the planets in orbit around the sun and the moon in orbit around the Earth.

Gravitation is described under the theory of general relativity, which defines it as the curvature of spacetime around an object of mass. This curvature, in turn, creates a situation where the path of least energy is toward the other object of mass.


Electromagnetism
Electromagnetism is the interaction of particles with an electrical charge. Charged particles at rest interact through electrostatic forces, while in motion they interact through both electrical and magnetic forces.
For a long time, the electric and magnetic forces were considered to be different forces, but they were finally unified by James Clerk Maxwell in 1864, under Maxwell's equations. In the 1940s, quantum electrodynamics consolidated electromagnetism with quantum physics.

Electromagnetism is perhaps the most obviously prevalent force in our world, as it can affect things at a reasonable distance and with a fair amount of force.


So yes electromagnetism can counteract gravity cause it is the stronger of 2 forces but that DOES NOT MAKE THEM THE SAME!

1 "Super Giant Planet", 7 "Planets / Moons" orbiting it.

"Planet of the Crossing" - They move through the Galaxy in a cross style position.

[link to yowusa.com]

Is what I've heard.

So you admit you cite the website not on the basis of evidence, but simply because you agree with its unsupported claims.

Oh yes, best you look up what "hypothetical" means, I suspect you are less than clear on that point.

That's hardly a credible source my friend.

So you're proposing that if I took a 2 magnets in an area with high 'gravity' they would fail to function properly?

No, because Gravity has no effect on Magnetism.

Yet Magnetism has a direct effect on Gravity.

Connect the dots.

Last Edited by AntiPC on 07/29/2011 06:52 PM

"Assumed by hypothesis"... How is that any different from me assuming by hypothesis that Magnetism and Gravity are the same force?

I presented my hypothesis in the form of the Hubpage document I included on the original post.

Yeah, that's the legend.

A major change to the Earth could happen, even without such a big system entering our inner solar system.
Comets, of the known sort, can do that, all on their own.

NO im not and again you don't read very well!

Also that doesn't make them the same force!

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I find that 'educated' people tend to become hypocritcal once they begin believing in theories taught by believers of the teaching theory. They start out wanting to learn but close their minds to possibilities once the think they have all the answers.
Sometimes observation is the best of all teachers.
While I may question some on the OP's theories they do follow along with some of my own thoughts. We are finding out things about our solar system that falls out of the realm of old school thinking all the time.
Open your curious mind up and let the wonders of possibilites in.

Wrong, the strength of the forces is irrelevant. Even in the highest gravity a Magnet still functions properly.

Therefore just the fact that you said "The Stronger Force" automatically disqualifies your statement.

You can increase Gravity exponentially and a Magnet still functions properly.

How is this possible if they aren't the same force?

Last Edited by AntiPC on 07/29/2011 07:00 PM

How? The stronger force is electro-magnetism not gravity so of course it would still work. How can we possibly know whether or not 2 magnets could function properly in a place of infinite gravity such as a black hole? Are you going to take them there to prove your point?

Because there is NO reason, either through experiment or observation to show that gravity and magnetism are the same or interchangable.

Tell you what, why don't you take Maxwell's Equations and derive either classical or Einsteinian gravity from them? If what you are saying is correct then you should have no trouble at all with this simple demonstration.

Oh, wait, you admit you do not know physics, you just cite websites of dubious validity when you agree with them, right?

You have made an extraordinary claim, it requires exteaordinary proof before anyone is going to take it serioysly. And so far other than proof by repeated assertion, arm waving and pointing to highly dubious websites you have offered no proof at all.

And you STILL have not answered this simple question: What observation or experiment would convince you your idea is wrong? Simple enough question, why do you avoid it so?

if it's all magnetism then what about the planets trajectory.
I think if we follow op's theory the sun would pull us towards her in a straight line until BOINK

If your statement is true then magnetism should work according to what part of the world you're in.

According to this map, Gravity differs at certain parts of the world, yet the Magnets works the same anywhere you are in the world.

[link to images.sciencedaily.com]

I don't need a black hole to tell you what if you can increase one force exponentially, while another still functions properly regardless... Something is wrong.

One correction, unfortunately lots of people on GLP are taking this seriously! lol But there is only one actually debating it.

You should probably read a few more posts before making such statements, the planets do not orbit the Sun on a set plane, as demonstrated by the video below.

If I held a large magnet, and small one side by side, and kept moving the large magnet back more... The small magnet would never hit the large one because it was constantly in motion.

The Sun is constantly orbiting through the Milky Way in a 3D motion, which is a concept some people don't understand.

To prove my experiment is wrong I would need to see Gravity affect Magnetism.

I know for a fact Magnetism has the ability to manipulate Gravity... But there is no experiment to show the opposite.

so not boink, but what about the planets own momentum, eg the speed of their trajectories around the sun

Holy shit, are you even reading my posts? NO!!!! Electro-magnetism is the dominating force. I will overlook the fact that you recognize that gravity differs in seperate parts of earth but even still it doesn't matter magnetism is still the stronger force, I personally don't know how much stronger so maybe magnets work just fine no matter where the fuck you take them on earth. But we certainly don't have access to infinite gravity to experiment with magnets anywhere on this planet. Even still they are not the same!!!


Einstein and Eddington, if your not familiar i think there is even a movie about them two idiots!

OP Great theory. I love seeing people think outside the lies we have been told since day 1.

We have been enslaved because we trusted those Ruling Bloodlines.

Peace

Is there a reason this cannot be explained by magnetism? The Sun exerts a specific magnetic force and the planets react to that force with their own magnetism.

The attraction is constant thus they maintain about the same orbit.

Thank you... If we had more time, the out of the box thinkers of this world could really clean this place up.

Every action has an equal or greater reaction.

Unless the actions are one in the same.

If you indeed "know for a fact" magnetism effects gravity you should have no trouble demonstrating that with something more compelling than proof by repeated assertion, arm waving and appeals to dubious websites.

And what experiment or observation would convice you you idea is wrong, and why do you so carefully avoid this simple question?