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The point may be that the true poor should be treated with some compassion and the false poor or the intentionally poor should be realigned closer to their capabilities and responsibilities to fend for themselves.
There are too many playing the system and in exhausting it, they bring it down for all. In truth, THEY are the looters and destroyers of a compassionate, charitable society, moreso than any few zillionaires you can point to. You seem to think there is an acceptable level of fraud and waste extant in the system that should be left unmolested, I and others more realistic and honest than yourself, do not
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another tool that thinks people enjoy bludging for a living with no cash

please explain your tepid logic again
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A man plans for the future before it gets there.
a bitch bitchs about the present having made no effort.
I do love you as a fellow bloke, but come for me or what I earned and I'll gut ya and eat ya, and feed the rest to the dogs. Your choice, not mine, mate. Commandments properly san though shalt not murder, naught against self defense tho'
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This is all done by design. Tptb want people to take advantage of the system. Constantly keep us fighting with each other and not against them and oh how well it is working...
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that is nothing op.Here in Indiana the illegals have it even better.See they do not need to show ID here(only applies to illegals).

This is there scam.There are groups of 20 or so illegals and they take a day to go around to various counties applying for food stamps(and get them). Each now has 5-10 cards.They go out and spend all there food stamp money on food.They then take all this food to THERE grocery store.As in one they opened in little Mexico(Indianapolis). They charge normal retail unless you are Mexican(1/2 off). They pocket the cash,and the next month repeat.

They get to own a VERY profitable grocery store with nearly 100 over head.At a minimum they are making 50% profit off of tax payer funded food stamps.

Yes I have called/emailed the state attorney generals office.No they do not care as there is nothing they can do unless the law is changed to require illegals to have id for food stamps(better yet how about we do not give illegals food stamps!!).
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This is fraud, These people can go to jail for doing this.
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This is all done by design. Tptb want people to take advantage of the system. Constantly keep us fighting with each other and not against them and oh how well it is working...
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ohyeah
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bsflag
You have a very POOR view of people I see. Cigs are an addiction and I don't care who you know or if you, yourself, quit, everyone is different and a bit of empathy and compassion goes a long way.
FYI Food stamps does not buy cigs or alcohol. Who are YOU to judge???? Worry about your own life first and when you have it just perfect THEN you might be in a position to suggest things to people.
When people do not have enough money to pay the bills sometimes all they have is hope for that lottery win.
As I said, when YOU have your life PERFECT then you might be able to talk. Until then you're just full of BSbsflag
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it is appalling that, despite the rich suck your blood off SO bad, you are STILL trying to blame poor people.

all the while NOt knowing that, ALL OF YOU fall in the category of that 'poor' people, since 85% bottom of society in america only has 15%of wealth and income.

the 'middle class', which is basically 'none' now, is only 10% and can only get 13% of national wealth and income.

compared to top 5% that gets 72%, YOU ARE ALL POOR BASTARDS.

so, quit trying to discriminate some 'others' that you dub as 'poor' and blame everything on them.

YOU ARE ALSO POOR. dont think that having the illusion of living in a 'middle class' standard makes you not poor.

it has been decades since that middle class standard has become the top of the poor standard spectrum.

you are all poor. wake up to this fact, and stop handling the load of the top 5%, who already doesnt do shit to handle their load despite they are getting 72% of everything.

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This is all done by design. Tptb want people to take advantage of the system. Constantly keep us fighting with each other and not against them and oh how well it is working...
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The ptb want all to accept a theft based morality. They thrive on cash=flow. so it's of no consequence to them, more is better. Any which way.
Seems they've been rather successful
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that is ridiculous, especially when you can just find somebody that needs food and sell your stamps for half of what you get, i know people that get 100 bucks for 200 in stamps. and if they are really lucky, they can get dollar for dollar -free money!
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I used to work at a gas station when I just moved back to the east coast from California. I lived in a lower/middle class neighborhood. Nearly EVERY customer who came in to buy junk food (honey buns, doritos, donuts, etc) would drop a &20 or a $50 and in one case I remember a &100 dollar bill, and purchase Lottery tickets, cigarettes & cases of beer.

I began wondering...why the hell are these people using my tax money to buy unhealthy junk food and using their cash to buy what I would consider privileges?

People would come in and complain about the price of gas and health insurance. If you didn't spend your money on cigarettes, lottery, scratch tickets and alcohol you'd HAVE money for gas and health insurance.

I worked out the numbers.

The average cost of a pack of cigarettes across america right now is $5.65

if you smoke a pack a day that's $150.00 a month you spend on something that can kill you. The case of bud light at the store I worked at was about $14.00 for a 12 pack. If you buy even two a week thats around another $100.00 a month. Lottery and megabucks is unpredictable, but if your gambling with your cash you have a serious problem anyway.

anyway my point, is that it's not that prices are high or that the rich are greedy, it's that the poor are more often than not STUPID with their money. With $300-$400 a months you'd save by not drinking, smoking & gambling you would have plenty of money for a gym membership, the best health insurance money can buy and still have some left over to put towards other bills.

I'm sick of this. I see people doing this shit everyday and pisses me off!

It's not a matter of the rich keeping poor people down, it's the poor needing to sacrifice their addictions & cravings of luxury consumption. You can't afford it don't buy it.

Not to mention if you didn't drink and smoke so dam much you wouldn't have to complain about the cost of health care because you'd be a whole lot healthier. Not to mention if you're going to buy food with my taxes can you at least buy healthy food? Salads, fruits, vegetables etc? Instead of potato chips and donuts?

My two cents.
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Hold on you think 300-400$ will buy a gym membership,THE BEST health insurance money can buy,AND still have moeney left over for bills?

What planet you from bud?

Sounds like a dreamy place.
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I live near a convenience store/gas station and it's been my observation that the majority of its customers are, by no means, representative of the general population.

In short, the population from which you derive your conclusions indicates biased sampling. This would never pass peer review IMHO.
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GASP! really? well whatever - is it their fault the govt has taxed cigs so high that only the uber rich can smoke? like OBAMA and all his 40 thieves, I mean czars?

they buy what they want!!

once you start dictating to people - then we are living in a different country

MYOB! worry bout your own back yard!
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People use FOOD STAMP CARDS for food & their cash for CIGARETTES, ALCOHOL & LOTTERY

No fricking way!!! When did you figure that out? Geez, I wish I were a genius like you!
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I think it would be hilarious if some welfare bum wins the lottery using a food stamp card. LMAO
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All this is crap, my money My choice whe gets it and what is done with it.
That's it.
Otherwise get off your dead arse and make your own choices, like I did.
No drugs fags or booze on my shilling, mate. You want those, you NEED those YOU are cut off of my funds.
You want to enforce charity? I want to enforce propriety and lack of predation upon my efforts.
Guess who wins in the end.
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somehow in the states many of the 'poor' spend a thousand dollars a month on entertainments and addictions on average. THAT'S why they are poor, investments in the 'mans' consumer rubbish. THAT's WHY the govt protected megawealthy are wealthy, THEY sell you the poison. They produce, and you suck it in.
To trim a tree proper, to get the best growth, all you have to do is cut off the dead diseased wood, not the healthy branches just cut the disease and the tree blossoms.
Here, we cut the healthy off and support and spread the disease. When all becomes diseased and septic, no amount of charity is enough, or does it's intended task
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So the people abusing the system will die off sooner? I have no problems with this.
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yea fair enough. It's the whining we have to listen to until it happens. I'm poor as they come and use no form of city assistance. I work for my just due.
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haha you must be white and not supoorting obama
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I think it would be hilarious if some welfare bum wins the lottery using a food stamp card. LMAO
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guess they have just as much chance as anyone else ? if they have CASH

I dont see how they can buy a lottery ticket with
a food stamp?
I dont know anyone on food stamps - but it seems to me
that if you dont buy food with it, you dont cant get anything else,, arent food stamps regulated at the store level?

guess Im not smart enough to understand how they scam the system
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I think it would be hilarious if some welfare bum wins the lottery using a food stamp card. LMAO
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Ben done mate, in Michigan, and the bitch still uses his dole card without shame, and whines about how much he lost in taxes.
It all comes out of one pocket mate, none of this seperate profit center crap is real.
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A lot of people will use their food stamp cards to buy their $500 worth of groceries and sell them for $250 cash or trade them to drug dealers for for $250 worth of dope. I know a guy who used to do that.
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I think it would be hilarious if some welfare bum wins the lottery using a food stamp card. LMAO
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guess they have just as much chance as anyone else ? if they have CASH

I dont see how they can buy a lottery ticket with
a food stamp?
I dont know anyone on food stamps - but it seems to me
that if you dont buy food with it, you dont cant get anything else,, arent food stamps regulated at the store level?

guess Im not smart enough to understand how they scam the system
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Subsidy. Look it up. Support for tomfoolery is supporting tomfoolery not some human right.
Give a crakhead money and they stay a crakhead. You support them in their habit of dissolution. NO seperate accounts bollox. One supports or one does not. Yo cant compartmentalize a life into unreality. life is a sum total, not unrelated fragments.
Not that hard. If you are given money to waste you have been given too much.
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Yep, the system works backwards.
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I began wondering...why the hell are these people using my tax money to buy unhealthy junk food and using their cash to buy what I would consider privileges?

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Get a life OP, and stop worrying about others. All the shyt we have to deal with on a daily basis in this piece of shyt country and you concern yourself with the habits of poor people?

Why don't you man up and go after the people who are causing the major problems? It's not the poor people in the ghetto, and if you think it is, then you are on the wrong side of the fence.

Don't hate the player. Hate the game.

I can't believe I'm entertaining this foolish nonsense.
36 years of tears and thinkin' back, I'm the finished product of the making of a maniac.
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people on welfare have to work for less than minimum wage.

opinions aside....should this be legal?

when the question arises of how these people spend the tax payers money it does sort of come to more of an opinion. though i think a pretty good rule would be NO cigs/alcohol/gambling----but work would have to be done to make it a rule. at least its a FAIR and JUST rule---not like making people on welfare work for whatever companies/government agencies for FREE full time---and not getting compensated even minimum wage in their benefits.

and at the same time current tax payers are crying that they get to spend their money on cigs and alchol. maybe cut the retarded welfare to work programs and you tax payers could save some g-damn money--and while you're at it, regulate the INSANE things people are allowed to buy on it--like beer. *rolls eyes*


the welfare system is ALL kinds of fucked up.
and NOBODY wins. not even the ones on welfare. sure it may seem like that on the outside and there are plenty of pieces of shit on welfare that would just as soon sit on welfare forever, but once someone hits a rough spot and DOES get on welfare---its practically impossible to get out of that system. i just watched a docu. on it, so interesting, def. changed my perspective a little.
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OP, you're an asshole of the highest order. My advice is to MYOB and worry about your own damn life. Do you feel better about yourself when you bash other people? Weak minded jackass...
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yea, that is what we need you telling us what is good for us. how we should live. thank god the broze and cigs pastifies them. otherwise they would go get there guns and fix this thing.

live and ket live, freedom to choice what you wouldn't one day to stand judgemnet in front of the judge. the one who loves his children.

the war is just around the corner, you'll find the smoking and drinking poor ones will shed their blood for your freedom. the brave don't understand your points of view, but they will die to let you have it!!!
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my GOD youre a loonie!
Dont get out much, huh?
THe poor are poor but have guns and ammo to press their case for forced theft and tribute.
THe poor shdedding their blood? How, Cant get into the service with a felony record or dirty piss test.
YOU are living in a fantasy land.
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and one of the quotes from the docu. i just saw was something along the lines of: social programs are not a cure for poverty....JOBS are a cure for poverty.

maybe instead of giving these people 'free' benefits---or making them work for less than minimum wage for their benefits---place them in jobs or something. even if the jobs had to be MADE--considering at least half of people on welfare wouldn't TAKE one of their jobs (and would not get social service either)--the gov't and tax payers would end up SAVING money and of course those people would probably eventually get different jobs in the private sector.

and those that choose not to take one of those jobs should just be left destitute...and their kids taken away from them.

i know people who abuse welfare and truly need it........
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you are also a jackass. most people who act " high and mighty" on message boards often have a lot of their own flaws. It makes it easier to forget how much of an ass YOU are when you are bashing someone else. You're awesome Tod!
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OP, you're an asshole of the highest order. My advice is to MYOB and worry about your own damn life. Do you feel better about yourself when you bash other people? Weak minded jackass...
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Yeah OP mind your own business for a change and KEEP YOUR OWN MONEY and use it to prepare to handle the future with confidence. Let the govt franchised drugs peddlars starve.
Make things right in the long run.
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I used to work at a gas station when I just moved back to the east coast from California. I lived in a lower/middle class neighborhood. Nearly EVERY customer who came in to buy junk food (honey buns, doritos, donuts, etc) would drop a &20 or a $50 and in one case I remember a &100 dollar bill, and purchase Lottery tickets, cigarettes & cases of beer.

I began wondering...why the hell are these people using my tax money to buy unhealthy junk food and using their cash to buy what I would consider privileges?

People would come in and complain about the price of gas and health insurance. If you didn't spend your money on cigarettes, lottery, scratch tickets and alcohol you'd HAVE money for gas and health insurance.

I worked out the numbers.

The average cost of a pack of cigarettes across america right now is $5.65

if you smoke a pack a day that's $150.00 a month you spend on something that can kill you. The case of bud light at the store I worked at was about $14.00 for a 12 pack. If you buy even two a week thats around another $100.00 a month. Lottery and megabucks is unpredictable, but if your gambling with your cash you have a serious problem anyway.

anyway my point, is that it's not that prices are high or that the rich are greedy, it's that the poor are more often than not STUPID with their money. With $300-$400 a months you'd save by not drinking, smoking & gambling you would have plenty of money for a gym membership, the best health insurance money can buy and still have some left over to put towards other bills.

I'm sick of this. I see people doing this shit everyday and pisses me off!

It's not a matter of the rich keeping poor people down, it's the poor needing to sacrifice their addictions & cravings of luxury consumption. You can't afford it don't buy it.

Not to mention if you didn't drink and smoke so dam much you wouldn't have to complain about the cost of health care because you'd be a whole lot healthier. Not to mention if you're going to buy food with my taxes can you at least buy healthy food? Salads, fruits, vegetables etc? Instead of potato chips and donuts?

My two cents.
 Quoting: Apotheosis


For what it is worth, I agree. People have choices, but not on my tax payers dollars... food, shelter, essentials yes.... cable t.v., cigarettes, alcohol, lottery---NO!





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