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People use FOOD STAMP CARDS for food & their cash for CIGARETTES, ALCOHOL & LOTTERY

 
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I used to work at a gas station when I just moved back to the east coast from California. I lived in a lower/middle class neighborhood. Nearly EVERY customer who came in to buy junk food (honey buns, doritos, donuts, etc) would drop a &20 or a $50 and in one case I remember a &100 dollar bill, and purchase Lottery tickets, cigarettes & cases of beer.

I began wondering...why the hell are these people using my tax money to buy unhealthy junk food and using their cash to buy what I would consider privileges?

People would come in and complain about the price of gas and health insurance. If you didn't spend your money on cigarettes, lottery, scratch tickets and alcohol you'd HAVE money for gas and health insurance. I'm not saying that it's poor peoples fault why they're poor. I've been poor for a very long time. I grew up homeless on the streets with a drug addicted mother my whole childhood. I'm saying that making a conscious effort to not spend your money frivilously on things that corporate america use to kill you will probably help you provide yourself with more important things you need.

anyway my point, is that it's not just that prices are too high or that the rich are greedy, it's that the I see a lot of the poor, more often than not doing STUPID things with their money. With $300-$400 a months you'd save by not drinking, smoking & gambling you would have plenty of money for a gym membership, a decent health insurance and still have some left over to put towards other bills.

I'm sick of this. I see people doing this shit everyday and pisses me off! They are abusing the system, and though there are tons of more important things going on in the world then this issue it is still something people should address. Welfare assistance should be better monitored.

It would also help if the poor could sacrifice their addictions & cravings of luxury consumption. You can't afford it don't buy it.

Not to mention if you didn't drink and smoke you wouldn't have to complain about the cost of health care because you'd be a whole lot healthier. Also if you're going to buy food with tax money can you at least buy healthier food? Salads, fruits, vegetables etc? Instead of potato chips and donuts? It would better for you nutritionally and help things out.

My two cents.

DISCLAIMER:

This is NOT an attack on ALL people who use food stamps, just quite a few who do that take advantage of the system. It is neither fair for the tax payer or the impoverished needy who use the system that this stuff goes on. This is more of an attack on welfare because this should seriously be monitored much more closely. Hopefully the good people out there receiving assistance who read this now will stop attacking me. I advocate helping the poor, just sick an tired of helping those who abuse it. There is Nothing wrong with general assistance just a bit of advice for those who receive it. There are ways you can better help yourself and the country by not spending the money you do have on frivolous things. It would also help if they ate healthier with it. For them and the system because there would be less people needing medical care they cant afford.

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So the people abusing the system will die off sooner? I have no problems with this.
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if you make other peoples business YOUR business, does that mean they can make your business THEIR business too?

i wonder, would you even have a choice in that?

karma is funny.
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So the people abusing the system will die off sooner? I have no problems with this.
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yea fair enough. It's the whining we have to listen to until it happens. I'm poor as they come and use no form of city assistance. I work for my just due.
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if you make other peoples business YOUR business, does that mean they can make your business THEIR business too?

i wonder, would you even have a choice in that?

karma is funny.
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It's no longer THEIR business when it's our money.
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With $300-$400 a months you'd save by not drinking, smoking & gambling you would have plenty of money for a gym membership, the best health insurance money can buy and still have some left over to put towards other bills.
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Throw us a bone. How do we hook up with this deal? rockon
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Another blame-game-rat-in-a-maze type of post. It's the same old tired perspective based on the fallacy that you somehow understand why people do what they do in sufficient detail. Gas station workers generally do NOT - compared to tptb!

What you describe is part of running this type of civilisation. I assure you that if tptb wanted this behaviour stopped - it would stop. It may well do so soon!

Also remember that you only have a job, because tptb allow you to have a job.

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So the people abusing the system will die off sooner? I have no problems with this.
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yea fair enough. It's the whining we have to listen to until it happens. I'm poor as they come and use no form of city assistance. I work for my just due.
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I think we will canonise you, the first GLP saint. St goody two shoes Apotheosis.
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thanks liberals.
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So the people abusing the system will die off sooner? I have no problems with this.
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But smoking, heavy drinking and bad diets cost taxpayers billions in medical expenses paid for people on public assistance. Top it off with the Liberal extension of unemployment benefits.
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I used to work at a gas station when I just moved back to the east coast from California. I lived in a lower/middle class neighborhood. Nearly EVERY customer who came in to buy junk food (honey buns, doritos, donuts, etc) would drop a &20 or a $50 and in one case I remember a &100 dollar bill, and purchase Lottery tickets, cigarettes & cases of beer.

I began wondering...why the hell are these people using my tax money to buy unhealthy junk food and using their cash to buy what I would consider privileges?

People would come in and complain about the price of gas and health insurance. If you didn't spend your money on cigarettes, lottery, scratch tickets and alcohol you'd HAVE money for gas and health insurance.

I worked out the numbers.

The average cost of a pack of cigarettes across america right now is $5.65

if you smoke a pack a day that's $150.00 a month you spend on something that can kill you. The case of bud light at the store I worked at was about $14.00 for a 12 pack. If you buy even two a week thats around another $100.00 a month. Lottery and megabucks is unpredictable, but if your gambling with your cash you have a serious problem anyway.

anyway my point, is that it's not that prices are high or that the rich are greedy, it's that the poor are more often than not STUPID with their money. With $300-$400 a months you'd save by not drinking, smoking & gambling you would have plenty of money for a gym membership, the best health insurance money can buy and still have some left over to put towards other bills.

I'm sick of this. I see people doing this shit everyday and pisses me off!

It's not a matter of the rich keeping poor people down, it's the poor needing to sacrifice their addictions & cravings of luxury consumption. You can't afford it don't buy it.

Not to mention if you didn't drink and smoke so dam much you wouldn't have to complain about the cost of health care because you'd be a whole lot healthier. Not to mention if you're going to buy food with my taxes can you at least buy healthy food? Salads, fruits, vegetables etc? Instead of potato chips and donuts?

My two cents.
 Quoting: Apotheosis


Its a free country. You cant teach stupid. If people dont wanna live morally, theres not a lot you can do about it.

Education is a wonderful thing here, but the people needing the education have to want to learn to better themselves. Most have no interest in that.

There will always be a segment of the population that cant work, and a segment that wont work. In a free society, theres not much you can do except protect yourselves from them.
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that is nothing op.Here in Indiana the illegals have it even better.See they do not need to show ID here(only applies to illegals).

This is there scam.There are groups of 20 or so illegals and they take a day to go around to various counties applying for food stamps(and get them). Each now has 5-10 cards.They go out and spend all there food stamp money on food.They then take all this food to THERE grocery store.As in one they opened in little Mexico(Indianapolis). They charge normal retail unless you are Mexican(1/2 off). They pocket the cash,and the next month repeat.

They get to own a VERY profitable grocery store with nearly 100 over head.At a minimum they are making 50% profit off of tax payer funded food stamps.

Yes I have called/emailed the state attorney generals office.No they do not care as there is nothing they can do unless the law is changed to require illegals to have id for food stamps(better yet how about we do not give illegals food stamps!!).
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as near all the food is poisoned, TPTB are not doing us a favor with those cards

If you can't look around you at our people and see that, you need some new glasses
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I used to work at a gas station when I just moved back to the east coast from California. I lived in a lower/middle class neighborhood. Nearly EVERY customer who came in to buy junk food (honey buns, doritos, donuts, etc) would drop a &20 or a $50 and in one case I remember a &100 dollar bill, and purchase Lottery tickets, cigarettes & cases of beer.

I began wondering...why the hell are these people using my tax money to buy unhealthy junk food and using their cash to buy what I would consider privileges?

People would come in and complain about the price of gas and health insurance. If you didn't spend your money on cigarettes, lottery, scratch tickets and alcohol you'd HAVE money for gas and health insurance.

I worked out the numbers.

The average cost of a pack of cigarettes across america right now is $5.65

if you smoke a pack a day that's $150.00 a month you spend on something that can kill you. The case of bud light at the store I worked at was about $14.00 for a 12 pack. If you buy even two a week thats around another $100.00 a month. Lottery and megabucks is unpredictable, but if your gambling with your cash you have a serious problem anyway.

anyway my point, is that it's not that prices are high or that the rich are greedy, it's that the poor are more often than not STUPID with their money. With $300-$400 a months you'd save by not drinking, smoking & gambling you would have plenty of money for a gym membership, the best health insurance money can buy and still have some left over to put towards other bills.

I'm sick of this. I see people doing this shit everyday and pisses me off!

It's not a matter of the rich keeping poor people down, it's the poor needing to sacrifice their addictions & cravings of luxury consumption. You can't afford it don't buy it.

Not to mention if you didn't drink and smoke so dam much you wouldn't have to complain about the cost of health care because you'd be a whole lot healthier. Not to mention if you're going to buy food with my taxes can you at least buy healthy food? Salads, fruits, vegetables etc? Instead of potato chips and donuts?

My two cents.
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Bullshit article. Obviously written to demonize the food stamp program.

You can't use the food stamp card to buy cigarettes, alcohol, and lotto tickets.
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I think its harder for food stamp cheats nowadays....when food stamps were actually monopoly money looking paper, every ghetto had its own "currency exchange" where dollars were traded for FS....hell in da hood, food stamps were defacto currency.....you could get anything from booze to blowjobs with them.....the ghettoans used to get pissed if cab drivers didn't take FS as fare payment....
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Ya, and your point being what? That you just noticed?
That's why the states always have the sin tax, so they steal what little money the poor do have trying to relieve their suffering.
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With $300-$400 a months you'd save by not drinking, smoking & gambling you would have plenty of money for a gym membership, the best health insurance money can buy and still have some left over to put towards other bills.
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Throw us a bone. How do we hook up with this deal? rockon
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My thought exactly. I've got decent health insurance, but it costs me $1,300 a month. And I don't drink smoke or gamble.
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Bullshit article. Obviously written to demonize the food stamp program.

You can't use the food stamp card to buy cigarettes, alcohol, and lotto tickets.
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BS you can't.

You might not be able to swipe the card to buy that stuff, but that card can be given to anyone and people trade cash for food stamp cards all the time. There is zero accountability with these cards. You don't even have to show your ID.

There are drug houses that are set up to trade drugs for food stamp cards. You buy $50 worth of drugs in exchange for your $100 food stamp card. Sweet deal, right? The druggie doesn't spend any money, it's all taxpayer money!
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there is no way possible to buy those things with food stamps only cash assistance which is usually on the same card. yes you can buy all the junk food you want. but some people would like to get healthy things. your not allowed fresh deli type stuff. you can buy vegetables and such yes. i personally cant find enough money on mine to buy things more than cans of spagetti-os and ramen soup for the month. i try to get fresh vegetables and fruit and they are so nasty here in texas its ridiculous. me and my son furiously vomited from eating an apple 2 days ago that looked perfectly fine. guess not.

I used to work at a gas station when I just moved back to the east coast from California. I lived in a lower/middle class neighborhood. Nearly EVERY customer who came in to buy junk food (honey buns, doritos, donuts, etc) would drop a &20 or a $50 and in one case I remember a &100 dollar bill, and purchase Lottery tickets, cigarettes & cases of beer.

I began wondering...why the hell are these people using my tax money to buy unhealthy junk food and using their cash to buy what I would consider privileges?

People would come in and complain about the price of gas and health insurance. If you didn't spend your money on cigarettes, lottery, scratch tickets and alcohol you'd HAVE money for gas and health insurance.

I worked out the numbers.

The average cost of a pack of cigarettes across america right now is $5.65

if you smoke a pack a day that's $150.00 a month you spend on something that can kill you. The case of bud light at the store I worked at was about $14.00 for a 12 pack. If you buy even two a week thats around another $100.00 a month. Lottery and megabucks is unpredictable, but if your gambling with your cash you have a serious problem anyway.

anyway my point, is that it's not that prices are high or that the rich are greedy, it's that the poor are more often than not STUPID with their money. With $300-$400 a months you'd save by not drinking, smoking & gambling you would have plenty of money for a gym membership, the best health insurance money can buy and still have some left over to put towards other bills.

I'm sick of this. I see people doing this shit everyday and pisses me off!

It's not a matter of the rich keeping poor people down, it's the poor needing to sacrifice their addictions & cravings of luxury consumption. You can't afford it don't buy it.

Not to mention if you didn't drink and smoke so dam much you wouldn't have to complain about the cost of health care because you'd be a whole lot healthier. Not to mention if you're going to buy food with my taxes can you at least buy healthy food? Salads, fruits, vegetables etc? Instead of potato chips and donuts?

My two cents.
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So the people abusing the system will die off sooner? I have no problems with this.
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yea fair enough. It's the whining we have to listen to until it happens. I'm poor as they come and use no form of city assistance. I work for my just due.
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The honest and upright will always suffer the most. But you can make gains if you game the system. Rich or poor it doesn't matter. Whether your using the welfare system or bankruptcy courts. If you're willing to be dishonest you can spend carelessly too.
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smokers should be executed for the good of society
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people who drink alcohol should also be exterminated for the sake of society
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self righteous people hould be executed for the sake of society.
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"No way... We landed on the moon?"

"We landed on the moon!!!!"
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I used to work at a gas station when I just moved back to the east coast from California. I lived in a lower/middle class neighborhood. Nearly EVERY customer who came in to buy junk food (honey buns, doritos, donuts, etc) would drop a &20 or a $50 and in one case I remember a &100 dollar bill, and purchase Lottery tickets, cigarettes & cases of beer.

I began wondering...why the hell are these people using my tax money to buy unhealthy junk food and using their cash to buy what I would consider privileges?

People would come in and complain about the price of gas and health insurance. If you didn't spend your money on cigarettes, lottery, scratch tickets and alcohol you'd HAVE money for gas and health insurance.

I worked out the numbers.

The average cost of a pack of cigarettes across america right now is $5.65

if you smoke a pack a day that's $150.00 a month you spend on something that can kill you. The case of bud light at the store I worked at was about $14.00 for a 12 pack. If you buy even two a week thats around another $100.00 a month. Lottery and megabucks is unpredictable, but if your gambling with your cash you have a serious problem anyway.

anyway my point, is that it's not that prices are high or that the rich are greedy, it's that the poor are more often than not STUPID with their money. With $300-$400 a months you'd save by not drinking, smoking & gambling you would have plenty of money for a gym membership, the best health insurance money can buy and still have some left over to put towards other bills.

I'm sick of this. I see people doing this shit everyday and pisses me off!

It's not a matter of the rich keeping poor people down, it's the poor needing to sacrifice their addictions & cravings of luxury consumption. You can't afford it don't buy it.

Not to mention if you didn't drink and smoke so dam much you wouldn't have to complain about the cost of health care because you'd be a whole lot healthier. Not to mention if you're going to buy food with my taxes can you at least buy healthy food? Salads, fruits, vegetables etc? Instead of potato chips and donuts?

My two cents.
 Quoting: Apotheosis


Its a free country. You cant teach stupid. If people dont wanna live morally, theres not a lot you can do about it.

Education is a wonderful thing here, but the people needing the education have to want to learn to better themselves. Most have no interest in that.

There will always be a segment of the population that cant work, and a segment that wont work. In a free society, theres not much you can do except protect yourselves from them.
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Not a free country to those that supply their earned money at the point of a gun so that others can coast on it as they see fit.
Welfare is theft times 2. Once cannot force charity. Charity is voluntary.
Even charity is earned by representing that you are worthy. Charity provided to a looter is not charity, it;s extortion.
You should know this
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self righteous people hould be executed for the sake of society.
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what about self righteous alcoholics?

That's the problem with the American judicial system. It has too many loopholes. They should have a way to execute them twice. Kind of like double jeopardy in reverse.
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Not a free country to those that supply their earned money at the point of a gun so that others can coast on it as they see fit.
Welfare is theft times 2. Once cannot force charity. Charity is voluntary.
Even charity is earned by representing that you are worthy. Charity provided to a looter is not charity, it;s extortion.
You should know this
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The problem is, you have not, will not, will never earn your own hard earned money.

Just by being born in one of the richest most powerful countries in the world you have an advantage over all else.

You have roads you use, schools, lights, power systems, infrastructure, that you have never paid for.

When you live in a society you are expected to be a part of it.

You can't pick and choose the benefits you get and not pay for others.
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people on wall street use their government sanctioned monopoly of money to parasitically siphon off huge amounts of wealth from productive society through usury. they then blow this money on obnoxious stuff like yachts, private jets, useless art and jewelry, multiple homes they rarely use, and cocaine.
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people on wall street use their government sanctioned monopoly of money to parasitically siphon off huge amounts of wealth from productive society through usury. they then blow this money on obnoxious stuff like yachts, private jets, useless art and jewelry, multiple homes they rarely use, and cocaine.
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you forgot hookers. $10 000/night hookers. They better be good for that price.
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With $300-$400 a months you'd save by not drinking, smoking & gambling you would have plenty of money for a gym membership, the best health insurance money can buy and still have some left over to put towards other bills.
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My health insurance alone is running over $400 a month and that is with no children and on a plan with a huge fucking deductible.

You must be uninsured. So here 'ya go:

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They have very little and are barely getting by in Sodom and Gomorrah. They are not the reason the economy is trashed. Its the Fat Cat's you're wanting to revile. Behind their tailored suits, champaign and caviar, VIP lifestyles, they're the one's ram rodding your from behind in a most professsional way. So professionally, they broke you long ago.





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