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Hypocrisy User ID: 1451219 United States 07/30/2011 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I pray Obama's dumb ass uses the 14th Amendment so we can finally impeach that piece of fucking shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1474622Agreed. We need to wipe the slate clean & start over with a more realistic government. NOT ADVOCATING VIOLENCE. Just sayin' |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1478422 United States 07/30/2011 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void. Quoting: D. Bunker... Section 4 confirmed the legitimacy of all United States public debt appropriated by the Congress. It also confirmed that neither the United States nor any state would pay for the loss of slaves or debts that had been incurred by the Confederacy. For example, several English and French banks had lent money to the South during the war.[48] In Perry v. United States (1935), the Supreme Court ruled that under Section 4 voiding a United States government bond "went beyond the congressional power."[49] Legal analyst Jeffrey Rosen has argued that Section 4 gives the president unilateral authority to raise or ignore the national debt ceiling, and that if challenged the Supreme Court would likely rule in favor of expanded executive power or dismiss the case altogether for lack of standing.[50] [link to en.wikipedia.org] ----------- Where is the rebellion or civil war necessary to enact this legislation for default of US Debt? Hey I am a tax slave... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1432437 United States 07/30/2011 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I pray Obama's dumb ass uses the 14th Amendment so we can finally impeach that piece of fucking shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1474622Agreed. We need to wipe the slate clean & start over with a more realistic government. NOT ADVOCATING VIOLENCE. Just sayin' ^This +100 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1286880 Australia 07/30/2011 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I pray Obama's dumb ass uses the 14th Amendment so we can finally impeach that piece of fucking shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1474622He can use it. Sure. It doesn't mean the CONSERVATIVE justices in the SUPREME COURT will approve it. Could be a total waste of time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1280771 United States 07/30/2011 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But their is also international treaties and agreements signed by designated representatives of The US government that might make this whole affair even more difficult. The thing is, we just don't know the answer, thus we can't calculate the exact damage that might be done either way. That's why you are watching Stupidity theater in Congress tonight. They don't know, they just don't want to find out. Now-we need a law team that is capable of actually telling us what the government has done over the years with regard to this debt. You know, Obama did say he would create jobs. I just never thought it might be more lawyers. Shoulda known. |
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GeekOfTheWeek User ID: 1383040 United States 07/30/2011 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me thinks the Federal Reserve is guilty of insurrection, therefor the debt is illegitimate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1426506If it is "truly" own by other nations, and will put our citizens into slavery to pay this debt... Then yeah, it's illegitimate. So if it's like so many say, "Israel is the real owners" this debt can't be forced onto the US taxpayers... I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief... |
Meow... User ID: 1417925 United States 07/30/2011 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I pray Obama's dumb ass uses the 14th Amendment so we can finally impeach that piece of fucking shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1474622I am with you. let's start a poll.... Impeach the usurper or not? The evil that men do lives after them. 'A Republic,if you can keep it.' |
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Phennommennonn Forum Administrator User ID: 1483248 United States 07/30/2011 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is the rebellion or civil war necessary to enact this legislation for default of US Debt? Quoting: D. Bunkerpack a lunch DB political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1477500 United States 07/30/2011 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I pray Obama's dumb ass uses the 14th Amendment so we can finally impeach that piece of fucking shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1474622I am with you. let's start a poll.... Impeach the usurper or not? Impeaching the President is not done by the public. Congress has to vote to impeach and that's just not gonna happen in Obama's case. Two U.S. Presidents have been impeached, Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton, and neither one was removed from office. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 1487370 United States 07/30/2011 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void. Quoting: D. Bunker... Section 4 confirmed the legitimacy of all United States public debt appropriated by the Congress. It also confirmed that neither the United States nor any state would pay for the loss of slaves or debts that had been incurred by the Confederacy. For example, several English and French banks had lent money to the South during the war.[48] In Perry v. United States (1935), the Supreme Court ruled that under Section 4 voiding a United States government bond "went beyond the congressional power."[49] Legal analyst Jeffrey Rosen has argued that Section 4 gives the president unilateral authority to raise or ignore the national debt ceiling, and that if challenged the Supreme Court would likely rule in favor of expanded executive power or dismiss the case altogether for lack of standing.[50] [link to en.wikipedia.org] ----------- Where is the rebellion or civil war necessary to enact this legislation for default of US Debt? You have balls quoting ANYTHING from WIKIPEDIA as FACTS. ZERO trustworthyness. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 07/30/2011 09:22 PM |
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Revolution User ID: 794937 United States 07/30/2011 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny, they think the 14th will save them from this mess... But the VALIDITY of the debt isn't being questioned, now is it? No. It's our desire to take on MORE debt that is being questioned. This administration is balls deep in fail. "when injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty"—Adam Kokesh “Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall!”—John Dickenson, The Liberty Song "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams "When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."—Ayn Rand |
D. Bunker (OP) 07/30/2011 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void. Quoting: D. Bunker... Section 4 confirmed the legitimacy of all United States public debt appropriated by the Congress. It also confirmed that neither the United States nor any state would pay for the loss of slaves or debts that had been incurred by the Confederacy. For example, several English and French banks had lent money to the South during the war.[48] In Perry v. United States (1935), the Supreme Court ruled that under Section 4 voiding a United States government bond "went beyond the congressional power."[49] Legal analyst Jeffrey Rosen has argued that Section 4 gives the president unilateral authority to raise or ignore the national debt ceiling, and that if challenged the Supreme Court would likely rule in favor of expanded executive power or dismiss the case altogether for lack of standing.[50] [link to en.wikipedia.org] ----------- Where is the rebellion or civil war necessary to enact this legislation for default of US Debt? You have balls quoting ANYTHING from WIKIPEDIA as FACTS. ZERO trustworthyness. The first section is a quote from Section 4 of the US Constitution Amendment. Regardless, I have no balls. :savetata: Favorite Quote - "I just fucking love outer space, it has all those planets and stars and shit." - Mister Obvious 2009 |
TXGal4Truth User ID: 1013398 United States 07/30/2011 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I pray Obama's dumb ass uses the 14th Amendment so we can finally impeach that piece of fucking shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1474622Agreed. We need to wipe the slate clean & start over with a more realistic government. NOT ADVOCATING VIOLENCE. Just sayin' I don't think the POS will ever be impeached. So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
D. Bunker (OP) 07/30/2011 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny, they think the 14th will save them from this mess... Quoting: RevolutionBut the VALIDITY of the debt isn't being questioned, now is it? No. It's our desire to take on MORE debt that is being questioned. This administration is balls deep in fail. The debt incurred via the confederacy was not owed by the North. This is what it says. How is the debt incurred by the current US government not a result of the current US government. Sometimes I am confused why so many cannot read English when it is their first language. The federal reserve was created by the US Government. :savetata: Favorite Quote - "I just fucking love outer space, it has all those planets and stars and shit." - Mister Obvious 2009 |
Mario1105 User ID: 1079058 United States 07/30/2011 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me thinks the Federal Reserve is guilty of insurrection, therefor the debt is illegitimate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1426506Exactly..And if the Chinese want to go to war to secure any payments, then that debt becomes null and void... the chineese wont go to war with us 1 they need us to buy all there tainted bullshit products if they went to war with us there whole country would fall apart they need us Last Edited by Mario1105 on 07/30/2011 09:46 PM |