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OP

How do you feed yourself?

The Apollo phot is taken at the site. The SELENE photo is a 3D extrapolation of photos taken from orbit. The camera has a ten meter resolution. Thats 33 feet, give or take. The rover in the Apollo photo is approximately 16 long or half that. It will result in a pixel with a slightly different tone in the SELENE photos. As a result, it will not be discernible.

Put down your crack pipe and step away from the keyboard.
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Actually, the rover was even smaller than that. Dimensions:
3.1 m long, 1.83 m wide, 1.14 m high; 2.3 m wheelbase.
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In Earth's Orbit they can get fine details from a postage stamp, however, whilst orbiting the Moon they can not even get a picture of a rover 3.1 long.

Makes perfect sense to me.
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How do you feed yourself?

The Apollo phot is taken at the site. The SELENE photo is a 3D extrapolation of photos taken from orbit. The camera has a ten meter resolution. Thats 33 feet, give or take. The rover in the Apollo photo is approximately 16 long or half that. It will result in a pixel with a slightly different tone in the SELENE photos. As a result, it will not be discernible.

Put down your crack pipe and step away from the keyboard.
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Actually, the rover was even smaller than that. Dimensions:
3.1 m long, 1.83 m wide, 1.14 m high; 2.3 m wheelbase.
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


In Earth's Orbit they can get fine details from a postage stamp, however, whilst orbiting the Moon they can not even get a picture of a rover 3.1 long.

Makes perfect sense to me.
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The spatial resolution of the Terrain Camera (TC) on the KAGUYA satellite is 10m. That means an object has to be that big just to show up as a single pixel. [link to www.kaguya.jaxa.jp]

But you're missing the point. That computer generated image was created to show the topography of the landing site. The Laser Altimeter (LALT) was used to make the lunar topography model, the altitude is precisely measured using high-power laser pulses.

The landscape matches up perfectly with the actual photo taken by the Apollo 15 astronauts on the moon. There is no way they could have faked that image back in 1971. This really is proof positive the landings were real.
It is precisely because it is fashionable for Americans to know no science, even though they may be well educated otherwise, that they so easily fall prey to nonsense. They thus become part of the armies of the night, the purveyors of nitwittery, the retailers of intellectual junk food, the feeders on mental cardboard, for their ignorance keeps them from distinguishing nectar from sewage. Isaac Asimov
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Supposedly the difference between the two was that the Japanese camera could not resolve the finer details of the lunar surface and, thus, the Nazi debris is absent as a consequence.........supposedly.
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Get real... how could NASA have produced a picture in 1971 -- from a position clearly on the lunar surface unless they were there -- and something had to be there because the Jap satellite has photographed the same lunar surface landscape -- although at a distance and not in the same detail.
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In Earth's Orbit they can get fine details from a postage stamp, however, whilst orbiting the Moon they can not even get a picture of a rover 3.1 long.

Makes perfect sense to me.
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Work for the NRO do you?

Read the article. 10 meter resolution.

Come on now, this may be rocket science, but it isn't really all that hard.
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Right... I would say that the pictures actually DEBUNK the Moon Landing Hoaxers, because HOW could NASA have gotten the topography that ACCURATE in a soundstage in 1971?
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Right... I would say that the pictures actually DEBUNK the Moon Landing Hoaxers, because HOW could NASA have gotten the topography that ACCURATE in a soundstage in 1971?
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I believe that the Apollo craft went to the Moon. I have never believed that they were manned. The Apollo craft were fitted with cameras, were they not?
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OP, for your own safety, please watch this video.

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THE 3D REPRESENTATIONS WERE BASED UPON PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN BY SELENE YOU IDIOT!
 Quoting: Anonymous OP 1492433

And it perfectly matches the Apollo 15 photography confirming that those were taken on the Moon.

So what's your point?

Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 17 : Objects Fall From The Fake Moon Bay Ceiling


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous OP 1492433

Pretty solid proof it was a live broadcast if you ask me.

BTW, why doesn't this ArcAngel4Myke fellow allow comments on his channel?
What's he hiding?

SO YOUR SAYING THEY WENT TO THE TROUBLE OF ERASING NASAS FAKE LUNER LANDER AND VARIOUS RELICS THEY WERE MEANT TO HAVE LEFT AT THE LUNER LANDING SITE


BEFORE THEY PROCESSED THE SELENE PHOTOS IN 3D?

NOW WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY DO THAT ?
 Quoting: Anonymous OP 1492433

You really are quite the idiot, aren't you?
Can't read to good and can't find the CAPS LOCK key.

The Apollo hardware is to small to be resolved by this camera.

EAT THIS NAZI!
 Quoting: Anonymous OP 1492433

How is this helping your claim?

MoonFaker: Clementine, SELENE & Telescopes. PART 1

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Why does the 'Grandson' keep running away from public debates?
Why does he hide out on a youchube channel which he himself moderates?

Jarrah White is an intellectual coward.
Any time, any place, Jarrah, you chicken.
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The Moon Landing thing you watched on T.V is a hoax.

It's been debunked by Special Effects Artists. They saw thru the bullshit like... very easily.

They call the Moon Landing a Hoax.
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Care to name one [1] of these 'Special Effects Artists'?
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In Earth's Orbit they can get fine details from a postage stamp, however, whilst orbiting the Moon they can not even get a picture of a rover 3.1 long.

Makes perfect sense to me.
 Quoting: Australian Coward 1492631

They can, haven't you seen the LRO images.

This camera can't.
If you want to cover the whole Moon, which is the size of Africa, in a reasonable amount of time you are going to use a wider angle.
Imaging the whole surface of the Moon 100mx100m frames at the time would take decades.

I believe that the Apollo craft went to the Moon. I have never believed that they were manned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1492631

Why not?

The Apollo craft were fitted with cameras, were they not?
 Quoting: Australian Coward 1492631

So they faked it in real time?

How does that work? Do you even think these things through?
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Right... I would say that the pictures actually DEBUNK the Moon Landing Hoaxers, because HOW could NASA have gotten the topography that ACCURATE in a soundstage in 1971?
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UFO tech/time-machine/bribed the Japanese.

I'm sure the hoaxies will invent something stupid that allows them to ignore the facts.
That's all they ever do.
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Looks like anbexact match.
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Hmm, from what I just read in the article, everything that was 'supposed' to be at the apollo site was and the pictures matched exactly. Where's the hoax stuff?
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YOU HAVE EYES DONT YOU?
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cruise

weirdo

norespect

yes.. we have eyes.

do you have a mouth? if so then why are you talking out of your ass?

you CLEARLY have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

you need to go into the bathroom, look deep DEEP into the mirror.. and remind yourself.. "I AM NOT A SCIENTIST"
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Whoa EPIC burn.norespect
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Apollo was a 30 Billion (300 today) dollar money laundering mission, used to start up the various entities of the Military Industrial Complex.

The Saturn V rocket used up 96% of its fuel (in 2 staqes) in the 1st 10 minutes of liftoff to reach 118 miles altitude. These are FACTS that can be verified on Wikipedia.

With only 4% of the original fuel remaining, the thinking individual has (2) choices:

1.) The astronauts used the remaining 4% of fuel to fly the 58' x 18' rocket stage called S-IVB. an additional 250,000 miles to the moon, orbited the moon "X" amount of times at 4000MPH and return 250,000 miles back to the earth, not to mention the 69 mile descent and 69 mile (unassisted) ascent of the lunar module to and from the lunar surface.

2.) The astronauts used the remaining 4% of fuel to orbit safely back to the earth's surface
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That's how rockets work. The majority of the trip is getting into low Earth orbit. The rocket is proven to have the delta V necessary to get to the Moon. Every person that understand orbital mechanics can verify that. It was also tracked on its way to the Moon. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it didn't work. Reality is not defined by your lack of comprehension.
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REAL MOON VS FAKE NASA HOAX SITE OF APOLLO 15

[link to www.universetoday.com]

Comparison between 3D SELENE landscape and Apollo 15 photo (JAXA/NASA)
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Its obviously low res 3d data rendered with curve fitting.
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To expand further, with a rocket the relationship between fuel and distance is not linear. Fuel needed for later in the trip is just cargo at the start. Once they were in orbit with the staged rocket they had discarded a lot of their mass but already had a high velocity. They only needed a relatively small puch to start toward the Moon. They also weren't thrusting the entire way.
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Anger and ignorance, the Big Mac and Fries that feeds GLP, turning it into a fat mess.

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Went to the web site, read the article, looked at the photos. The Japanese mission confirmed the moon landing. It did debunk something however, it debunked the idea that we didn't go to the moon. Thanks Japan for debunking yet another controversial topic.... ;)
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Kaguya Finds No Evidence OF Apollo Missions

[link to wms.selene.jaxa.jp]
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Link seems to be broken, for me at least.
I was just wondering earlier if the movie Hanna is where curiosity is filming t00? There is a scene where the super-soldier child escapes from a DUMB facility in the desert. It looks like Mars.
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Kaguya Finds No Evidence OF Apollo Missions

[link to wms.selene.jaxa.jp]
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Link seems to be broken, for me at least.
I was just wondering earlier if the movie Hanna is where curiosity is filming t00? There is a scene where the super-soldier child escapes from a DUMB facility in the desert. It looks like Mars.
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Here's the new link for that spin:

www.meatspin.com
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Supposedly the difference between the two was that the Japanese camera could not resolve the finer details of the lunar surface and, thus, the Nazi debris is absent as a consequence.........supposedly.
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Get real... how could NASA have produced a picture in 1971 -- from a position clearly on the lunar surface unless they were there -- and something had to be there because the Jap satellite has photographed the same lunar surface landscape -- although at a distance and not in the same detail.
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You kinda missed the step about altimetry; the Japanese probe generated a more accurate height map than was even possible with 1970's technology. Or do you think electronic and computing have stood still for the last forty years?
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Kaguya Finds No Evidence OF Apollo Missions

[link to wms.selene.jaxa.jp]
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Link seems to be broken, for me at least.
 Quoting: TastyThoughts

Here is the KAGUYA website, idiosyncratic grammar and all: [link to www.kaguya.jaxa.jp]
JAXA also has a YouTube channel: [link to www.youtube.com]

Get real... how could NASA have produced a picture in 1971 -- from a position clearly on the lunar surface unless they were there -- and something had to be there because the Jap satellite has photographed the same lunar surface landscape -- although at a distance and not in the same detail.
 Quoting: TraderRob

You kinda missed the step about altimetry; the Japanese probe generated a more accurate height map than was even possible with 1970's technology. Or do you think electronic and computing have stood still for the last forty years?
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That was a 16 month old post, nomuse.

TraderRob is still with us, though.
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The NASA die-hards will invent something stupid that allows them to ignore the facts. That's all they ever do. No need to turn over in your grave Neil, the masses still believe your lies.
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The NASA die-hards will invent something stupid that allows them to ignore the facts. That's all they ever do. No need to turn over in your grave Neil, the masses still believe your lies.
 Quoting: Underdog 5403109

Did you miss the part where OP posted something that is in fact very strong independent corroboration for Apollo?
Exactly the kind of thing hoaxies always whine about?
And when confronted with it they just move their rocket-propelled goalposts.

So what excuse are you going to invent this time to ignore the evidence?
I really don't believe any more that hoaxies want to know the truth.
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The Moon Landing thing you watched on T.V is a hoax.

It's been debunked by Special Effects Artists. They saw thru the bullshit like... very easily.

They call the Moon Landing a Hoax.
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Who is "they" you fucking retard? I am a visual effects artist for TV and film, and I think the landings were genuine.
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NASA HIT BACK BY COMMITTING MORE NAZI FRAUD
BY RELAESING LOW GRADE FAKE PICTURES WITH A PLASTIC TOY IN THEM
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MY GOODNESS

You might consider reading the text instead of just looking at the pictures.

"The TC instrument has been instrumental in creating 3D visualizations of the lunar surface. In the example left, a comparison of the TC reconstruction and an actual Apollo 15 photograph are compared."

[link to www.universetoday.com]
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THE 3D REPRESENTATIONS WERE BASED UPON PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN BY SELENE YOU IDIOT!
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And the fact that there are some instruments on the surface doesn't mean that a manned mission landed there...

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And the fact that there are some instruments on the surface doesn't mean that a manned mission landed there...
 Quoting: Dutch Coward 1274009

There is however a strong chain of evidence for how those instruments got there.

The claim "Apollo was hoaxed" requires a bit more evidence than "it could maybe possibly, I don't know how, have been hoaxed."

And you still missed the relevance of the KAGUYA data.
It shows that the landscape documented in the Apollo 15 pictures does exist on the Moon.
Something hoaxers could not have done without actually having been there at that exact site.
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From 118 miles altitude and beyond, we are told to believe that this 58 x 21' capsule S-IVB, no bigger than a New Jersey Sportfish had enough pep and thermal protection to carry 3 occupants for a further 500,000 mile ride, something NO ONE has been able to duplicate in 40+ years.