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Keep Smiling User ID: 72261 ![]() 08/03/2011 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My first thought about the 4.0-4.9 graph was that MAYBE when that graph was showing higher numbers than the larger mag quakes it was a good thing. They were releasing a lot of stress and therefore there weren't the bigger ones. Not that means anything unless we can hope that they come back in larger numbers again. BTW great job its a long task - I've tried it myself and failed through boredom. Last Edited by Keep Smiling on 08/03/2011 11:44 PM |
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El Quisqueyano User ID: 1476922 ![]() 08/03/2011 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As my very first post here on GLP I thought I would share some statistics I have recently gathered for myself. Quoting: MojofabulousOut of all the different controversy and conspiracy theories there is only one subject I've come upon where I was able to prove without any doubt whatsoever that something is seriously wrong. Earthquake activity is that subject. I used the IRIS earthquake database to chart earthquake activity from 1990-today. Here is a link to the results: [link to imageshack.us] I was very careful not to make any errors. Those graphs are accurate(according to the IRIS database). I in no way distorted any of these graphs to present a favorable outcome. They depict reality. A couple things are important to note: First, no earthquake database is complete. IRIS is simply the most accurate I could find. I started out trying to use the USGS but I quickly found that many earthquakes were simply not being included. IRIS isn't innocent of this either, unfortunately. For example, as of a week ago a heck of a lot of the New Zealand quakes this year aren't showing up on IRIS. Second, it isn't good enough to simply total up all the earthquakes 1.0 and above every year and say "Yup, we're experiencing more earthquakes!" You have to break them down by category and exclude the lesser quakes(0-4). Those are not very accurately measured over the last few decades and become extremely misleading due to varying numbers of sensors, etc). What really matters is seismic energy output and that increases exponentially with seismic magnitude. Third, the figures for 2011 are PROJECTIONS based on 214 days of data(I updated the statistics to August 2nd). I divided those numbers by 214 and multiplied by 365 to come to estimated year-end outcomes. Unless earthquake activity just straight up stops for the next 5 months, these projections should be pretty darn accurate. Certainly they won't be so far off that the upward trend won't manifest. The graph with the highest probability of inaccuracy is the 7.0+ graph since the sample size is so much smaller.(That's just basic statistics) If you are wondering why 4.0-4.99 quake activity is decreasing while all the rest is increasing..That's a very good question. While charting all the data I noticed a general trend showing that if 4.0-4.99 activity increased...5.0-5.99 decreased but 6.0+ increased either that year or the following year. The fact that the last couple years 4.0-4.99 has plummeted and all 5.0-10.0 activity has increased exponentially shows something is fundamentally different. I have looked back all the way to the early to mid 1900s and nothing like this sort of recent activity has been replicated. Certainly that does not mean recent activity is unprecedented, 20 or so years in the grand scheme of things is not very long. However, I think we can agree that such a exponential increase is not normal. Whether or not it is unprecedented is fairly irrelevant when you consider that precedence does not eliminate the possibility of disastrous consequences. If someone knows of a ACCURATE database for worldwide volcanic activity please let me know. I am dying to chart volcanic activity as well. The problem is that virtually all the popular databases are extremely inaccurate, yielding useless graphs. I have a feeling though that volcanic activity, were I able to chart it properly, would show an even greater exponential increase than earthquakes are today. That's just my opinion. Finally, if you see a post similar to this on ATS, I didn't steal from them. THEY are ME, lol. Just FYI :-) If you would like to confirm these graphs for yourself, here is a link to the IRIS database: [link to www.iris.edu] Thanks for reading It's fascinating isn't it? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1353340 ![]() 08/03/2011 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. More monitoring equipment, so more eq's recorded 2. More locations being monitored, so more eq's recorded 3. Newer and more sensitive monitoring equipment, so more eq's picked up 4. IRIS doing a better job at data collection nowadays, so more eq's listed That should about sum up the shills explanations for the data. All bullshit, of course. |
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El Quisqueyano User ID: 1476922 ![]() 08/04/2011 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make a chart of EQ frequency by year by Gamma Ray Bursts per years frequency/intensity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1493279[link to grb.sonoma.edu] Now there's another culprit, GRB's. You must be doing your homework poster. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1493279 ![]() 08/04/2011 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make a chart of EQ frequency by year by Gamma Ray Bursts per years frequency/intensity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1493279[link to grb.sonoma.edu] Now there's another culprit, GRB's. You must be doing your homework poster. Correlation of EQ to GRB (r = .48). GRB leads EQ by 10 days to 13 days. Eg., you see a 120 sec GRB, expect a 7.0 EQ within 10-13 days, (r = .48, p<.05). |
Mojofabulous (OP) User ID: 1476210 ![]() 08/04/2011 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for all the positive feedback folks(and for the pin)! nice job op Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1244883would also like to see a graph of 5.0 and above from 1900 to 2011...would be interesting So would I! I didn't do such a graph for two primary reasons: First, it would be extraordinarily time consuming to do it properly. Second, it's impossible to do it properly! The problem with charting old earthquake activity compared to modern activity is that the number of seismic monitors has increased rapidly over the years. If the databases say there were 5000 5.0+ earthquakes in 1900 but there are only 1000 seismic monitors, there is no way to know how many earthquakes there ACTUALLY were relative to modern times when 5,000 occurred with 10,000 seismic monitors. Add to that the fact that record keeping is much more accurate with today's technology and you just can't make real comparisons. Make sense? That is why I limited the activity from 1990-2011. My first thought about the 4.0-4.9 graph was that MAYBE when that graph was showing higher numbers than the larger mag quakes it was a good thing. They were releasing a lot of stress and therefore there weren't the bigger ones. Quoting: Keep SmilingNot that means anything unless we can hope that they come back in larger numbers again. BTW great job its a long task - I've tried it myself and failed through boredom. I agree with you completely. I am certainly no expert on seismic activity but intuitively that is what makes the most sense. Plus, it goes along with the data trends. BUMPING because this thread is made of AWESOME effort & doom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1220210Lol, I thought some of you might appreciate the tangible doom I could provide :-p You are a legend Mojofabulous! Quoting: Opinionated2I wanted to do this as part of another project and this proves to me that the project I was about to embark on is worthwhile! Fabulous timing! Now all I have to do is find the time. Thankyou! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Whether or not they end up proving your point, all projects to learn are worthwhile. As long as the goal is to simply learn, being right or wrong is irrelevant! Since this is your first posting on GLP and... you got pinned... and... it is apparent you put alot of research and effort in bringing this forth... and.. because of all this... I shall be on the outlook for all your future threads as well!!!! Quoting: Texas Truthseeker 1309684![]() ![]() ![]() Cheers :-) Modern Earthquake Activity: Thread: UPDATED 10/23/11: Earthquake activity from 1990-2011 charted. Pin for education! Gold and Silver Station: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Best Comedy Videos: Thread: Laugh....DAMNIT!!! If you appreciate these threads I have made, please share the love by giving karma. The first step in enabling yourself to learn anything is to actively throw away all your assumptions. This is a continual process, as most assumptions aren't known to exist until you stumble upon them. |
hcc2010 User ID: 1422475 ![]() 08/04/2011 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As my very first post here on GLP I thought I would share some statistics I have recently gathered for myself. Quoting: MojofabulousOut of all the different controversy and conspiracy theories there is only one subject I've come upon where I was able to prove without any doubt whatsoever that something is seriously wrong. Earthquake activity is that subject. I used the IRIS earthquake database to chart earthquake activity from 1990-today. Here is a link to the results: [link to imageshack.us] I was very careful not to make any errors. Those graphs are accurate(according to the IRIS database). I in no way distorted any of these graphs to present a favorable outcome. They depict reality. A couple things are important to note: First, no earthquake database is complete. IRIS is simply the most accurate I could find. I started out trying to use the USGS but I quickly found that many earthquakes were simply not being included. IRIS isn't innocent of this either, unfortunately. For example, as of a week ago a heck of a lot of the New Zealand quakes this year aren't showing up on IRIS. Second, it isn't good enough to simply total up all the earthquakes 1.0 and above every year and say "Yup, we're experiencing more earthquakes!" You have to break them down by category and exclude the lesser quakes(0-4). Those are not very accurately measured over the last few decades and become extremely misleading due to varying numbers of sensors, etc). What really matters is seismic energy output and that increases exponentially with seismic magnitude. Third, the figures for 2011 are PROJECTIONS based on 214 days of data(I updated the statistics to August 2nd). I divided those numbers by 214 and multiplied by 365 to come to estimated year-end outcomes. Unless earthquake activity just straight up stops for the next 5 months, these projections should be pretty darn accurate. Certainly they won't be so far off that the upward trend won't manifest. The graph with the highest probability of inaccuracy is the 7.0+ graph since the sample size is so much smaller.(That's just basic statistics) If you are wondering why 4.0-4.99 quake activity is decreasing while all the rest is increasing..That's a very good question. While charting all the data I noticed a general trend showing that if 4.0-4.99 activity increased...5.0-5.99 decreased but 6.0+ increased either that year or the following year. The fact that the last couple years 4.0-4.99 has plummeted and all 5.0-10.0 activity has increased exponentially shows something is fundamentally different. I have looked back all the way to the early to mid 1900s and nothing like this sort of recent activity has been replicated. Certainly that does not mean recent activity is unprecedented, 20 or so years in the grand scheme of things is not very long. However, I think we can agree that such a exponential increase is not normal. Whether or not it is unprecedented is fairly irrelevant when you consider that precedence does not eliminate the possibility of disastrous consequences. If someone knows of a ACCURATE database for worldwide volcanic activity please let me know. I am dying to chart volcanic activity as well. The problem is that virtually all the popular databases are extremely inaccurate, yielding useless graphs. I have a feeling though that volcanic activity, were I able to chart it properly, would show an even greater exponential increase than earthquakes are today. That's just my opinion. Finally, if you see a post similar to this on ATS, I didn't steal from them. THEY are ME, lol. Just FYI :-) If you would like to confirm these graphs for yourself, here is a link to the IRIS database: [link to www.iris.edu] Thanks for reading Oh man! That is one cute puppy. Love it. :) Nice graphs, too. But I don't understand why you have a graph for 5-10, one for 6-10, and one for 7-10. Why not 5-6, 7-8, and 9-10? |
my2centsworth User ID: 1307594 ![]() 08/04/2011 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow! OP, that is one heck of a "first post" Very well done and well explained. I love this site, for exactly the kind of posts, like this one, that you posted. I have learned something, and have to confess, I'm surprised that the "professionals" out there, haven't done the kind of work you just completed and posted. Kudo's to you, for your efforts in bringing this information forward. |
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