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George B
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It has nothing to do with "flip-flopping" it has to do with an honest and thorough examination of a first run through On my part of a procedure. . . the sounding data was correct, the times were correct, the altitude at which the trails should not have formed was correct as far as I am able to tell. . . The only issue was which range of altitudes should be used for normal cruising altitudes . . .

I now feel the proper range of cruising altitudes are between 32,000 and 42,000 feet. . . . coffee4
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So, you feel that sounding data from other times is "correct"?!
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What are you asking?
 Quoting: George B


Oh man...

Nevermind George...


Just keep pretending that you know what you're doing...
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This is my answer. . . If the Trails are within two hours of local soundings they have a stastical probability of being valid . . .the last sounding was at 6:00pm CST. . . .the Trails were observed between 8 and 9:00 pm. . . .and were possibly and most likely layed down before they were observed.
. . Very close if not in the two hour window. . .also later soundings strongly suggest the atmospheric conditions were becoming even warmer at the cruising altitudes. . .

[link to journals.ametsoc.org]

See page 3519, "3. Source Data"
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So, you feel that sounding data from other times is "correct"?!
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What are you asking?
 Quoting: George B


Oh man...

Nevermind George...


Just keep pretending that you know what you're doing...
 Quoting: Rubber Stamp


This is my answer. . . If the Trails are within two hours of local soundings they have a stastical probability of being valid . . .the last sounding was at 6:00pm CST. . . .the Trails were observed between 8 and 9:00 pm. . . .and were possibly and most likely layed down before they were observed.
. . Very close if not in the two hour window. . .also later soundings strongly suggest the atmospheric conditions were becoming even warmer at the cruising altitudes. . .

[link to journals.ametsoc.org]

See page 3519, "3. Source Data"
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yeah...whatever.

Keep up the good work George. It's good to see that you're actually trying to learn about aviation and atmospheric science. You have a long way to go...
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What are you asking?
 Quoting: George B


Oh man...

Nevermind George...


Just keep pretending that you know what you're doing...
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This is my answer. . . If the Trails are within two hours of local soundings they have a stastical probability of being valid . . .the last sounding was at 6:00pm CST. . . .the Trails were observed between 8 and 9:00 pm. . . .and were possibly and most likely layed down before they were observed.
. . Very close if not in the two hour window. . .also later soundings strongly suggest the atmospheric conditions were becoming even warmer at the cruising altitudes. . .

[link to journals.ametsoc.org]

See page 3519, "3. Source Data"
 Quoting: George B


yeah...whatever.

Keep up the good work George. It's good to see that you're actually trying to learn about aviation and atmospheric science. You have a long way to go...

 Quoting: Rubber Stamp




All right Noble . . . Point out your objections. . . .or keep you mouth shut . . . huffy

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Oh man...

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Just keep pretending that you know what you're doing...
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I wouldn't trust anyone who tries to blind you with science ;)
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Oh man...

Nevermind George...


Just keep pretending that you know what you're doing...
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I wouldn't trust anyone who tries to blind you with science ;)
 Quoting: DjInstincT


Science is a tool . . . That is all. . . It isn't God and is only as good as the scientists using it. . . If they are not honest and capable . . . The results are of the same quality. . . coffee4
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Just goggle "GACP Field Campaigns" if you paid turds want some evidense
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"God"

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Just goggle "GACP Field Campaigns" if you paid turds want some evidense
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Yeah, "evidense".
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Oh man...

Nevermind George...


Just keep pretending that you know what you're doing...
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This is my answer. . . If the Trails are within two hours of local soundings they have a stastical probability of being valid . . .the last sounding was at 6:00pm CST. . . .the Trails were observed between 8 and 9:00 pm. . . .and were possibly and most likely layed down before they were observed.
. . Very close if not in the two hour window. . .also later soundings strongly suggest the atmospheric conditions were becoming even warmer at the cruising altitudes. . .

[link to journals.ametsoc.org]

See page 3519, "3. Source Data"
 Quoting: George B


yeah...whatever.

Keep up the good work George. It's good to see that you're actually trying to learn about aviation and atmospheric science. You have a long way to go...

 Quoting: Rubber Stamp




All right Noble . . . Point out your objections. . . .or keep you mouth shut . . . huffy
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Would it matter if I pointed out your mistakes? You'd just find a way to weasel out of it...as usual.

Like I said, keep learning the truth instead of accepting crap on conspiracy sites as fact.
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Oh man...

Nevermind George...


Just keep pretending that you know what you're doing...
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I wouldn't trust anyone who tries to blind you with science ;)
 Quoting: DjInstincT


Yet you'll trust anyone who makes ignorant assumptions...as long as those assumptions reflect your own ignorant assumptions.


yeah, thats much better than putting science/knowledge to good use.
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Just goggle "GACP Field Campaigns" if you paid turds want some evidense
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This is a monitoring campaign. . . They measure ambient levels of substances in the air at different altitudes and locations. . . Interesting the measure of Aluminum, Barium, and Strontium are not included as part of their protocol. . . .they do include the greenhouse gases and Bromine Oxide (destroys Ozone). . . They do not inject aerosols into the atmosphere as far as I could determine. . . .interesting . . . No smoking gun. . . coffee4
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This is my answer. . . If the Trails are within two hours of local soundings they have a stastical probability of being valid . . .the last sounding was at 6:00pm CST. . . .the Trails were observed between 8
and 9:00 pm. . . .and were possibly and most likely layed down before they were observed.
. . Very close if not in the two hour window. . .also later soundings strongly suggest the atmospheric conditions were becoming even warmer at the cruising altitudes. . .

[link to journals.ametsoc.org]

See page 3519, "3. Source Data"
 Quoting: George B


yeah...whatever.

Keep up the good work George. It's good to see that you're actually trying
to learn about aviation and atmospheric science. You have a long way to go...

 Quoting: Rubber Stamp




All right Noble . . . Point out your objections. . . .or keep you mouth shut . . . huffy
 Quoting: George B


Would it matter if I pointed out your mistakes? You'd just find a way to weasel out of it...as usual.

Like I said, keep learning the truth instead of accepting crap on conspiracy sites as fact.
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Try me if they are valid criticisms you might be surprised. . . The issue of distance from the soundings is very difficult to judge if that is one of your issues. . . This is dealt with in different ways by the research I have read. . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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yeah...whatever.

Keep up the good work George. It's good to see that you're actually trying
to learn about aviation and atmospheric science. You have a long way to go...

 Quoting: Rubber Stamp




All right Noble . . . Point out your objections. . . .or keep you mouth shut . . . huffy
 Quoting: George B


Would it matter if I pointed out your mistakes? You'd just find a way to weasel out of it...as usual.

Like I said, keep learning the truth instead of accepting crap on conspiracy sites as fact.
 Quoting: Rubber Stamp


Try me if they are valid criticisms you might be surprised. . . The issue of distance from the soundings is very difficult to judge if that is one of your issues. . . This is dealt with in different ways by the research I have read. . . coffee4
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Just the same old criticisms I've made in the past about using sounding data. It doesn't matter..I'm just glad you're attempting to use science instead of "intuition" and guesswork.

Keep up the good work!
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Froggy went a courting,
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Is that you Snake? You need to use your Avatar so we know when to laugh . . .coffee4
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Of course it's me...

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I saw 4-6 trails all going parallel in the sky around 8 pm. Some were fairly fanned out and there was a jet up there making a fresh one as well. We all took note of it only because they were gone for so long and it was clear as can be that they were not natural clouds.

Science or not, i observed these first hand, so use whatever method you want, but i'm telling you - they were numerous, and they were there.
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I saw 4-6 trails all going parallel in the sky around 8 pm. Some were fairly fanned out and there was a jet up there making a fresh one as well. We all took note of it only because they were gone for so long and it was clear as can be that they were not natural clouds.

Science or not, i observed these first hand, so use whatever method you want, but i'm telling you - they were numerous, and they were there.
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So? They are contrails...contrails can be numerous and are explained with basic/simple science.

No one has denied that the trails "are there". Of course they are! They just have a logical explanation that doesn't involve an intentional spray program.
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I saw 4-6 trails all going parallel in the sky around 8 pm. Some were fairly fanned out and there was a jet up there making a fresh one as well. We all took note of it only because they were gone for so long and it was clear as can be that they were not natural clouds.

Science or not, i observed these first hand, so use whatever method you want, but i'm telling you - they were numerous, and they were there.
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OMFG!

CLOUDS!!!

ahhhahhhahhh
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I saw 4-6 trails all going parallel in the sky around 8 pm. Some were fairly fanned out and there was a jet up there making a fresh one as well. We all took note of it only because they were gone for so long and it was clear as can be that they were not natural clouds.

Science or not, i observed these first hand, so use whatever method you want, but i'm telling you - they were numerous, and they were there.
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Where is your location (approximate). . . ? And what was the date and time you first observed them?
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In Alabama too.
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Of course it's me...

No one else dances as well as I do...

dance
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You goin to be on danzin with the starz??? gwdance
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Yeah I saw them too while playing softball last night. Except I used common sense and figured it was from the airport 5 miles away... That and the right weather conditions for contrails. But maybe Obama was trying to stop us from taking first place!
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Yeah I saw them too while playing softball last night. Except I used common sense and figured it was from the airport 5 miles away... That and the right weather conditions for contrails. But maybe Obama was trying to stop us from taking first place!
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Actually, it's doubtful that any planes in or out of an airport 5 miles away from you would leave trails.
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Chemtrails right before sun down last night in Vermont.
I don't see how anyone could not noticed the humongous X along with disappearing planes.
Many trails to the west over Lake Champlain.
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Chemtrails right before sun down last night in Vermont.
I don't see how anyone could not noticed the humongous X along with disappearing planes.
Many trails to the west over Lake Champlain.
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Do you have any evidence that they were not contrails?
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Chemtrails right before sun down last night in Vermont.
I don't see how anyone could not noticed the humongous X along with disappearing planes.
Many trails to the west over Lake Champlain.
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Do you have any evidence that they were not contrails?
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YES, my EYES! My common sense. Plus the other planes were not leaving visible contrials. The jets leaving Burlington Airport leave the visible black non cloud type trail upon taking off.
Please don't start your insult campaign with me on this thread. I'm reporting what I observed.
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Chemtrails right before sun down last night in Vermont.
I don't see how anyone could not noticed the humongous X along with disappearing planes.
Many trails to the west over Lake Champlain.
 Quoting: VTCW 1495881


Do you have any evidence that they were not contrails?
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YES, my EYES! My common sense. Plus the other planes were not leaving visible contrials. The jets leaving Burlington Airport leave the visible black non cloud type trail upon taking off.
Please don't start your insult campaign with me on this thread. I'm reporting what I observed.
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Ok, so the answer to my question is "No" then. Thanks.
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My common sense.
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You have none...

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