The spiritually corrupt nature of humans requires God's illumination before true repentance can occur

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The spiritually corrupt nature of humans requires God's illumination before true repentance can occur
Philemon Offer Upgrade User ID: 1500207 United States 08/10/2011 03:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	The spiritually corrupt nature of humans requires God's illumination before true repentance can occur 1Peter 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Romans 7:21-25 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: but I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. God then created plants, animals, and two humans. Those humans were the capstone of that creation, fashioned with the ability to think and act intelligently. God then prohibited the humans from doing something, and even warned them of spiritual death as the result of disobedience. Against the warning, the humans disobeyed God, and as God promised they both died spiritually. Consequently, their entire progeny also received a morally debased constitution. Now all humans without divine compensation possess a failure to recognize perfect wisdom and a failure to habitually obey God. 1Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. God alone is the dispenser of moral strength, integrity and heavenly understanding, not humans. Humans are merely the recipients of the grace or, indirectly, the lack thereof. Proverbs 2:6 For Jehovah gives wisdom; out of His mouth come knowledge and understanding. Philippians 2:13 For it is God who works in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure. Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ Worldly and heavenly wisdom are the only classifications of wisdom specified in the bible, yet heavenly wisdom alone is distinctly unattainable through human exertion. Worldly wisdom is defined as sensual, devilish, the promoter of envy and strife. Heavenly wisdom is defined as from above, without partiality, hypocrisy, full of mercy and good fruit. James 3:14-17 But if you have bitter jealousy and strife in your hearts, do not glory and lie against the truth. This is not the wisdom coming down from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife are, there is confusion and every foul deed. But the wisdom that is from above is first truly pure, then peaceable, gentle, easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. The rendered original Greek word which Jesus employed when speaking to Nicodemus to illustrate the significance of new birth, translated in the English version as again, was Ano then (John 3:3). The word defined literally means "from above" or "from heaven", further emphasizing the necessity of God's causative operation in human redemption from spiritual death. John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 1:12-13 But as many as received Him, He gave to them authority to become the children of God, to those who believe on His name, who were born, not of bloods, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but were born of God. The humans destitute of new birth willfully and incessantly oppose God and his people. They think themselves more intelligent or religious than God's people. They are intolerant of godly persons that bring truth or live righteously, and persecute them or separate from them. Galatians 4:28-29 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. Romans 8:6-8 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the Law of God, neither indeed can it be. So then they who are in the flesh cannot please God. 2Timiothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. Last Edited by Philemon on 09/03/2011 12:16 AM

Horace bubba User ID: 742928 United States 08/10/2011 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: The spiritually corrupt nature of humans requires God's illumination before true repentance can occur Go fuck a duck. The Devil would never go down to Georgia. Eeew.
Philemon (OP) User ID: 1485598 United States 08/12/2011 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: The spiritually corrupt nature of humans requires God's illumination before true repentance can occur Humans are slaves before and after renewal. All humans are born slaves and will die slaves, and there is nothing that can possibly be done about that. You are either a slave of sin or a slave righteousness.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1040579 United States 08/12/2011 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: The spiritually corrupt nature of humans requires God's illumination before true repentance can occur Isaiah 41 bring forth your Idols did they PREACH to you see they can’t speak they can’t DO ANYTHING all they do is cause confusion. Spalms 115 and Spalms 135 their Idols are FALSE they can't speak, hear, nor smell and those that make them shall become like them. Jeremiah 10 they nail their Idol down like a scarecrow it can’t move, speak they must be carried these are nothing but the WORK of CON men. John 10 Jesus Christ says his sheep HEAR HIS VOICE and if another person TRIES TO PREACH to them they WILL FLEE from him. Jeremiah 5 the priests bear rule on their OWN AUTHORITY what will you do when your judged my word is not INSIDE them. Now here is the kicker john 5 son of man voice goes BACK in TIME. Mathew 16 Jesus Christ claims to be the son of man. 1 cor 2 mind of CHRIST preached internally and john 14 says the spirit of truth comes in the future. Ezekiel 13 states lying prophets of ISRAEL say GOD says GOD says but my word is not inside them. They wrote hoping mankind would CONFIRM their WORDS. All of this is EASILY verifiable. Mathew 10 says you should hear an internal voice that defends you and tells you what to say when taken to court preached to by the holy ghost. Mathew 12 Jesus states he is preaching by the holy ghost. John 14 states holy ghost comes in future and is from someone else. Now refer back to John 10 about hearing from someone else and fleeing. John 5 states son of mans voice goes back in time. Mathew 16 Jesus claims to be the son of man. 1 cor 2 holy ghost is familiar with the story about a man on cross from READING about it. Isaiah 65 written in front of me is listed here and also what is not written is hidden from my eyes therefore not familiar with it found in the same chapter. john 7 Jesus says if you knew scripture you'd know if its his word or GODS words. john 12 Jesus admits the voice heard is NOT his. John 10 people point out that Jesus tries to make himself appear to be GOD.
Philemon (OP) User ID: 1510641 United States 08/19/2011 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: The spiritually corrupt nature of humans requires God's illumination before true repentance can occur For review.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037270 United States 08/19/2011 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: The spiritually corrupt nature of humans requires God's illumination before true repentance can occur Bullshit, it's all about LOVE. You spout a means of control. Only LOVE can save us now and we ALL know it. Reject the guilt, forgive yourselves and forgive them. They know not what they do to us all.
Needles Eye User ID: 1480101 United States 08/24/2011 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: The spiritually corrupt nature of humans requires God's illumination before true repentance can occur The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

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