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Why is it that until recently secret ops were just that -secret.

Now and i have to say this-since this president-they have been written about,operations have been revealed-all hopefully after the fact.

These were/are silent operators and now a movie and Disney wanted the copy/trademark rights.
Now they are out in the open.The best of the best of their kind.Have they been used for politital purposes?

If so hears should roll.
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Of course the story doesn't make any sense. It's another big lie quickly told and all buttoned up rapidly by having the very same Taliban shooters already caught and disposed of.

End of story news at eleven.
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They had to do something to distract from Fast and Furious.
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Yes indeed, and all it took is a tin can of dead seals with halfrican dick up all their bums
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Of course the story doesn't make any sense. It's another big lie quickly told and all buttoned up rapidly by having the very same Taliban shooters already caught and disposed of.

End of story news at eleven.
 Quoting: Forge



They had to do something to distract from Fast and Furious.
 Quoting: anonimalle


Yes indeed, and all it took is a tin can of dead seals with halfrican dick up all their bums
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OH, That's funny a peck o barbequed seals on bamma's sdick!
Talk about a french tickler!
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Why is it that until recently secret ops were just that -secret.

Now and i have to say this-since this president-they have been written about,operations have been revealed-all hopefully after the fact.

These were/are silent operators and now a movie and Disney wanted the copy/trademark rights.
Now they are out in the open.The best of the best of their kind.Have they been used for politital purposes?

If so hears should roll.
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They are going to make a movie about OBL capture/death to be released just before the election.

Sony Hosted Obama Fundraiser, Releasing Bin Laden Movie Before Election

[link to www.weeklystandard.com]
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Why is it that until recently secret ops were just that -secret.

Now and i have to say this-since this president-they have been written about,operations have been revealed-all hopefully after the fact.

These were/are silent operators and now a movie and Disney wanted the copy/trademark rights.
Now they are out in the open.The best of the best of their kind.Have they been used for politital purposes?

If so hears should roll.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503194


They are going to make a movie about OBL capture/death to be released just before the election.

Sony Hosted Obama Fundraiser, Releasing Bin Laden Movie Before Election

[link to www.weeklystandard.com]
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Thankfully there are no apparent hard feeling from the tribal heads of themedia megacorps for bamba regarding his alleged lack of support fo the izzies and is alleged hate for the megacorps feeding the brothas a toxic slew of consumerist commercial consumption theology.
At least theyre not conservative christians from flyover country trying to keep their heads above water
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More from Larry Johnson at NoQuarter

Some Navy SEAL Families Pissed at Obama

Caught this interview with the parents and wife of one of the fallen sailors. You got to listen closely but the SEAL’s dad clearly is pissed at the Obama Administration for shooting its mouth off in the aftermath of the killing of Osama Bin Laden.

[link to www.noquarterusa.net]

One thing is for sure, Obama and Biden would never be a member of Delta or the SEALS. These two tell all and know nothings are in charge? Like they say what could go wrong?
But wait! It already has.
Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth ……
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"For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided"

Bilisarius

" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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RPGs are not surface to air missiles. They do not soar to great heights. The effective range is about 600 feet. Hitting a moving target in the dark further complicates the task. A more likely range is 200 feet. This means that the helo was probably hovering or coming in for a landing with an altitude of 100 feet.

If the RPG takes out one rotor the other rotor will continue to operate. This means the helo will go down hard but it does not mean an explosion in the air and a disintegrated aircraft falling to the ground. If the chopper fell off of a cliff and cartwheeled down a mountain that is a different beast. That type of crash could cause catastrophic damage to the passengers and increase the chance of the bird catching on fire.

Let me suggest one other possibility.

Did one of the Afghans on board detonate a suicide vest? A suicide vest contains potentially far more explosive force than the warhead of an RPG. The preliminary accounts of the incident appear to point to a major blast on board the helo.
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Not quite true. You lose one rotor on a Chinook, it is absolutely uncontrollable.
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Not quite the investigation I was looking for but maybe it will lead somewhere

Rep. Peter King: Pentagon, CIA must investigate Obama and death of Osama bin Laden movie

[link to www.nydailynews.com]
Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth ……
Que Sera Sera

"For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided"

Bilisarius

" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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Here is something

Defense Department Appoints Army General to Investigate Fatal Crash in Afghanistan

The Pentagon appointed Army Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Colt, the deputy commanding general of the Army's storied 101st Airborne Division, to lead the internal military probe into Saturday's deadly crash of a U.S. helicopter in eastern Afghanistan.

[link to nationaljournal.com]
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"For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided"

Bilisarius

" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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""""""""One thing is for sure, Obama and Biden would never be a member of Delta or the SEALS. These two tell all and know nothings are in charge? Like they say what could go wrong?
But wait! It already has."""""""""""""""

A lot of people gave lives and limbs in silence for this country-working for and carrying out orders issued by political pukes.Bidens son is i believe in Iraq.

Not saying Del Joe is approving whats going on--but how would he feel if his sons unit was telegraphed in the papers and media. V P son is .........
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anyone else notice that just like the OBL story this story keeps changing too. In a murder investigation the killer also changes their story.
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Bilisarius

" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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Isreal is not the land of milk and honey ....... Israelis are an existential threat to the US and izzrael .... Izrael is the land of Judeo-supremacy and adrenaline overdose from the Masada Myth , paranoia and guilt ......... izraelis are the cowards who attack Americans in false flag operations and then claim to be ''victims'' of the Holocash and HITLER'S JEWISH SOLDIERS ........ See BY WAY OF DECEPTION AND ISRAELI COWARDICE by Anders Breivik and Abe Foxman .
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RPGs are not surface to air missiles. They do not soar to great heights. The effective range is about 600 feet. Hitting a moving target in the dark further complicates the task. A more likely range is 200 feet. This means that the helo was probably hovering or coming in for a landing with an altitude of 100 feet.

If the RPG takes out one rotor the other rotor will continue to operate. This means the helo will go down hard but it does not mean an explosion in the air and a disintegrated aircraft falling to the ground. If the chopper fell off of a cliff and cartwheeled down a mountain that is a different beast. That type of crash could cause catastrophic damage to the passengers and increase the chance of the bird catching on fire.

 Quoting: visitor 1354586


You obviously haven't played GTA IV, of course it's realistic! I am kidding by the way hehe.

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Or.......they were killed by our own Government. At no
time would they put 22 SEAL's on one chopper and fly them into a "hot" LZ! Someone is lying!

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clappa
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its like when the USS Cole was told to fuel up at Yemen, then the zionazi terrorists from Israel terrorized and killed sailors. this explosion was by way of the Mossad using shape charges. the call was from a Pentagon sayanim to the Cole to change course and fuel up at Yemen.

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why the hell would anyone trust what a damn CIA agent (former or current) said about anything? these guys are professional actors, liarsm and disinfo spooks.. christ...

the stupid SEAL helicopter "crash" and everything else related to the stupid Bin Laden fairytale is 100% fabricated military-media psychological operation. you really shouldn't need anyone to tell you that. should be common knowledge by now that they're just making all this shit up.

this "former" spook is just fueling more "what REALLY happened?" bullshit that reinforces the core lie that anything happened at all.
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From what I have read, Seals had their own equipment including helicopters and they would never consider more than six Seals aboard any helicopter, just for the simple reason the loss would be great. The training expense and many years of experience makes these people very valuable.

If they were ordered to board that National Guard chopper, they would have balked, for the reasons above. Saying that, I do not think these 22 Seals were alive when put into the chopper and blown up on the ground to create the appearance of a chopper being downed by enemy fire.

These people were murdered by friendly's which is consistent with the formula tptb follow. That is, if you can't control them, particularly their mouth, sacrifice them.

I also believe that some of these men were dead following the crash in Pakistan during the phony Bin Laden fiasco. The bodies were preserved by the Pakistanis and turned over to us after negotiation. They put these ones into the chopper and blew it, or, they made that up too. There was no crash as they were already dead from the crash in Pakistan.

Parents, are not allowed to view the remains. That means there will be no civilian Autopsies conducted. These guys could have been machine gunned to death, and we will not know the answers without investigations, which we know our Government does not want.

I'm sorry if it seems that I am focused on conspiracy facts but I hear this is the place to vent them, to what conclusion I do not know. I guess if we bring the truth to the light of day, we will overcome the onslaught of these dark ones who are losing their grip. Things will get worse until they finally reach the conclusion that, you can't beat God!
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Of course the story doesn't make any sense. It's another big lie quickly told and all buttoned up rapidly by having the very same Taliban shooters already caught and disposed of.

End of story news at eleven.
 Quoting: Forge



They had to do something to distract from Fast and Furious.
 Quoting: anonimalle


Then there's this twist.............

October Surprise: Bin Laden, Leaks, Seal Team Six, and 2012 - A time Line

[link to www.4yourcountry.org]
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something stinks



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why the hell would anyone trust what a damn CIA agent (former or current) said about anything? these guys are professional actors, liarsm and disinfo spooks.. christ...

the stupid SEAL helicopter "crash" and everything else related to the stupid Bin Laden fairytale is 100% fabricated military-media psychological operation. you really shouldn't need anyone to tell you that. should be common knowledge by now that they're just making all this shit up.

this "former" spook is just fueling more "what REALLY happened?" bullshit that reinforces the core lie that anything happened at all.

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Maybe. But I think not. I have been a member of his forum for quite some time and I would believe Larry Johnson before I would ever Barack Obama. Larry loves this America.
Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth ……
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Bilisarius

" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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something stinks



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Don't have all the answers, but some of this stuff maybe I can shed some light on, maybe. It's true Navy SEALs have most of their own equipment, and support, but I am not sure they have a dedicated aviation unit like Army special forces have, that being Task Force 160th out of Ft. Campbell, KY. While its unusual to both use National Guard aircraft, and put 22 soldiers or sailors in an aircraft for a mission, its not unheard of. 22 SEALs in 1 aircraft tells me they were probably more in other aircraft, and they were planning on using overwhelming force. Alot of our Chinooks are flown by National Guard units, that may have simply been what was available at the time. Trust me when I tell you, most National Guard aircrews can hold their own, and have flown alot of combat missions, almost nobody critizes them for being non-professional "weekend warriors" anymore. Aditionally, Special Forces in general are now combined under what is called Joint Special Operations Command or JSOC, so inter branch cooperation is not unusual within special operations.
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Of course the story doesn't make any sense. It's another big lie quickly told and all buttoned up rapidly by having the very same Taliban shooters already caught and disposed of.

End of story news at eleven.
 Quoting: Forge



They had to do something to distract from Fast and Furious.
 Quoting: anonimalle


Then there's this twist.............

October Surprise: Bin Laden, Leaks, Seal Team Six, and 2012 - A time Line

[link to www.4yourcountry.org]
 Quoting: arosebyanyothername


Bingo
Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth ……
Que Sera Sera

"For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided"

Bilisarius

" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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something stinks



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Absolutely
Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth ……
Que Sera Sera

"For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided"

Bilisarius

" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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Oh My I just saw it! Pinned at last. Thanks everyone who helped me get here.
Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth ……
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"For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided"

Bilisarius

" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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Not quite the investigation I was looking for but maybe it will lead somewhere

Rep. Peter King: Pentagon, CIA must investigate Obama and death of Osama bin Laden movie

[link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: anonimalle


It can grow some legs if this is thoroughly investigated:

October Surprise: Bin Laden, Leaks, Seal Team Six, and 2012 - A time Line:

[link to www.4yourcountry.org]

It wouldn't surprise me if the entire episode is complete fabrication; given what a vile and greedy creature obama is.
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""""""""One thing is for sure, Obama and Biden would never be a member of Delta or the SEALS. These two tell all and know nothings are in charge? Like they say what could go wrong?
But wait! It already has."""""""""""""""

A lot of people gave lives and limbs in silence for this country-working for and carrying out orders issued by political pukes.Bidens son is i believe in Iraq.

Not saying Del Joe is approving whats going on--but how would he feel if his sons unit was telegraphed in the papers and media. V P son is .........
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Agreed.
Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth ……
Que Sera Sera

"For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided"

Bilisarius

" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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RPGs are not surface to air missiles. They do not soar to great heights. The effective range is about 600 feet. Hitting a moving target in the dark further complicates the task. A more likely range is 200 feet. This means that the helo was probably hovering or coming in for a landing with an altitude of 100 feet.

If the RPG takes out one rotor the other rotor will continue to operate. This means the helo will go down hard but it does not mean an explosion in the air and a disintegrated aircraft falling to the ground. If the chopper fell off of a cliff and cartwheeled down a mountain that is a different beast. That type of crash could cause catastrophic damage to the passengers and increase the chance of the bird catching on fire.

Let me suggest one other possibility.

Did one of the Afghans on board detonate a suicide vest? A suicide vest contains potentially far more explosive force than the warhead of an RPG. The preliminary accounts of the incident appear to point to a major blast on board the helo.
 Quoting: visitor 1354586


This reply is a really good example of disinfo agent speak. Complete with the self-conscious user name. Not saying you are or not, but then, even your ignorance is thinly veiled. Isn't it?
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Not quite the investigation I was looking for but maybe it will lead somewhere

Rep. Peter King: Pentagon, CIA must investigate Obama and death of Osama bin Laden movie

[link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: anonimalle


It can grow some legs if this is thoroughly investigated:

October Surprise: Bin Laden, Leaks, Seal Team Six, and 2012 - A time Line:

[link to www.4yourcountry.org]

It wouldn't surprise me if the entire episode is complete fabrication; given what a vile and greedy creature obama is.
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Good article and the people should not let him weasel out of this one. but do you notice that the anti keeps getting upped? Got one crisis aimed at him and looky here mom someone pulls out a bigger one. Either Axelrod or Rham said don't ever let a crisis go to waste.
Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth ……
Que Sera Sera

"For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided"

Bilisarius

" At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war."

Gates of Vienna.

"May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck."
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Interesting theory but he's wrong on a fact. At least one pilot was a member of a National Guard unit out of Buckley Air Force Base in Colorado.
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Or.......they were killed by our own Government. At no
time would they put 22 SEAL's on one chopper and
fly them into a "hot" LZ! Someone is lying!

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This ^^^^

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