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DHS Proposes Secret Watchlist Database, Privacy Groups Protest

 
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DHS Proposes Secret Watchlist Database, Privacy Groups Protest

The Department of Homeland Security is planning to duplicate the FBI's Terrorist Screening Database to expand an extensive database called Watchlist Service -- and no one can know if they're on the list

Privacy is a major concern in today's day and age, whether regulators are calling Facebook out on its invasive features like facial recognition or consumers are worrying about new camera technology like license plate recognition and red light camera.

Now, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is giving the American people a whole new list of worries in the realm of privacy. According to recent reports, DHS is planning to duplicate the FBI's Terrorist Screening Database to expand an extensive database called Watchlist Service, which will include names, birthdays, photos and biometrics of the accused. The new watchlist will combine four different DHS systems of records including IDENT, which is managed by the US-VISIT Program; Treasury Enforcement Communication System (TECS), which is managed by Custom and Border Protection (CBP) Passenger Systems Program Office; Transportation Security Threat Assessment System managed by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), and the TSA's Secure Flight Records.

The problem is that the DHS has proposed to exempt the Watchlist Service from Privacy Act provisions, which means that a person will never know if they are listed.

More at [link to www.dailytech.com]
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Like there hasn't already been lists. The stupid Canadian border even has full access to criminal records, arrests, databases of all US citizens, so they just make up their own arbitrary lists in their head, profile you accordingly, and then treat you like shit, tear through all your stuff, turn you away, add you to their own lists. It's fucked up.
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5* & pin suggested.
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plus Facebook is its own user created list. The crime sleuths just check your public profile and then.... yep, profile you accordingly.
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Like there hasn't already been lists. The stupid Canadian border even has full access to criminal records, arrests, databases of all US citizens, so they just make up their own arbitrary lists in their head, profile you accordingly, and then treat you like shit, tear through all your stuff, turn you away, add you to their own lists. It's fucked up.
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Of course they do.
They are the enemies of freedom.
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Since they're now talking about this... do you think it's already a done deal?

I suspect the answer is yes.
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Why do they need a "secret" database. They already classified more than half the country as suspected terrorists in the Spring of 2009. Why not just save money and use the phone book?

Oh yeah, I forgot for a moment. They need a reason to spend more money too.
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Your Papers Please.
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Thanks for the pin!
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It needs to be known.

Thanks for the thread, OP! hf
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Your Papers Please.
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Minus the word 'please' sheep
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Your Papers Please.
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Minus the word 'please' sheep
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Your papers are not in orrrrder....
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Your Papers Please.
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Or, better yat: papieren!
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"...Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?

Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, think, and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillence coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission.

How did this happen?
Who's to blame?
Well, certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

I know why you did it. I know you were afraid.
Who wouldn't be?
War, terror, disease.

There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense.
Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to... <you fill in the blank> ... promised you order, ...<fill in>... promised you peace, and all ...<fill in>... demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent..."
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I can't wait for the Thought Police to take me to the Ministry of Love!
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GREAT news and start with the AC's on the GLP to add a quick 1.5 million to the list 5a
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Ok lets give them a watch list :

Seiko
Timex
Omega
Bulova
CEO OF MILK SUPERPOWERS AND NASTY AVATARS(I have been told)

SO THE GOTCHA'S DON'T GET YOU

BAM!!! REALITY HITS YOU HARD BRO!!!!!!
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"...Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?

Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, think, and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillence coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission.

How did this happen?
Who's to blame?
Well, certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

I know why you did it. I know you were afraid.
Who wouldn't be?
War, terror, disease.

There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense.
Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to... <you fill in the blank> ... promised you order, ...<fill in>... promised you peace, and all ...<fill in>... demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent..."
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the answer, karmically speaking, accd'g to the Vedas, is that because so-called humans line up snetient beings like cows and other God-created lifeforms at slaughterhouses to murder and eat them, AGAINST THEIR WILL, the cosmic justice system (unseen to those who are ignorant and sinful) forces these types of repressions against the human criminals. very simple reaping what we sow law and order system. Just like WW I and II, worse atrocities committed by humans against each other than even what we visit upon all the poor animals we abuse and kill and eat. think deeply about it; the more we create hell for other 'lesser' lifeforms, the more we victimize ourselves . . .
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Just one more link in the chain for "Police State!"

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When they say "propose" they mean "test announce" before "informing" you that it existed for ten years.
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Very VERY important.
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Trust me since they're talking about this, that its at least 20 years old on being used. How dumb does the Govt. ("people behind the curtain", aka "The man") think the American Sheeple are??
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pfft, like they dont have one already.

...whil we are on it, I bet the patriots/militia/military have a few lists of their own...





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