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What in the world is a NEOCON? I'm serious...

 
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08/15/2011 05:02 PM
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it is a fake limited gov movement that is rooted deeply in leo straus's ideas, who personally taught Paul Wolfowitz.
trotsky and makaveli are quoted heavily in his teachings, including


1.permanent revolution violent and intellectual

2.the people can be lied as the reg. joe is not equip to handle reality of political situations


3. the ends justify the means

4.redraw the map in the middle east, by force in ness.

more when i remeber
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They should be called Neo-Bolsheviks, after all that's what they REALLY are.
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08/15/2011 05:06 PM
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it is a fake limited gov movement that is rooted deeply in leo straus's ideas, who personally taught Paul Wolfowitz.
trotsky and makaveli are quoted heavily in his teachings, including


1.permanent revolution violent and intellectual

2.the people can be lied as the reg. joe is not equip to handle reality of political situations


3. the ends justify the means

4.redraw the map in the middle east, by force in ness.

more when i remeber
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They should be called Neo-Bolsheviks, after all that's what they REALLY are.
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An honest independent media would have brought that up. among other things.
How can a man serve two totally dissimilar countries and cultures?
How can such a disproportionate representative population accumulate when christians are being excoriated in public for believing that all men are equal and should be treated as such, compared to what the chosen believe and write in their books, yet, crickets...
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08/15/2011 05:16 PM
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Re: What in the world is a NEOCON? I'm serious...
Make a list of famous neocons and see how many would ask for the 24/25th of December off work to be with the kids, and how many wouldnt care
I'll start
Krauthammer
Kristol
Sapphire
Morris
etc etc
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You mean they held Dual Citizenship too?

Someone wrote and asked me, "Why are there Israeli- but not Mexican-American Dual Nationals?"
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08/15/2011 05:24 PM
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Re: What in the world is a NEOCON? I'm serious...
Make a list of famous neocons and see how many would ask for the 24/25th of December off work to be with the kids, and how many wouldnt care
I'll start
Krauthammer
Kristol
Sapphire
Morris
etc etc
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


You mean they held Dual Citizenship too?

Someone wrote and asked me, "Why are there Israeli- but not Mexican-American Dual Nationals?"
 Quoting: [link to www.viewzone.com]

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Nu, why dont you ask?
I shouldnt be surprized. Not exactly a requirement, but you dont need citizenship to have right of return, just have to be chosen to go home, extra swag is noooo problem.
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Re: What in the world is a NEOCON? I'm serious...
it is a fake limited gov movement that is rooted deeply in leo straus's ideas, who personally taught Paul Wolfowitz.
trotsky and makaveli are quoted heavily in his teachings, including


1.permanent revolution violent and intellectual

2.the people can be lied as the reg. joe is not equip to handle reality of political situations


3. the ends justify the means

4.redraw the map in the middle east, by force in ness.

more when i remeber
 Quoting: scallywagg444


They should be called Neo-Bolsheviks, after all that's what they REALLY are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1392695


An honest independent media would have brought that up. among other things.
How can a man serve two totally dissimilar countries and cultures?
How can such a disproportionate representative population accumulate when christians are being excoriated in public for believing that all men are equal and should be treated as such, compared to what the chosen believe and write in their books, yet, crickets...
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True: You can't serve two masters.
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08/15/2011 05:30 PM
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this!!!!!!!!!

(includes dick cheney!)
neo-cons views


1. are NOT conservatives

2.permanent revolution, violent and intellectual !

3.re-drawing map of middle east

4.pre-emptive war

5. the ends justify the emans

6.encourage welfare state by 0 opposition

7.American empire

8.lying is nessecary for the state to survive

9.powerful and centralized federal gov.

10. society run by elite, as common man can't handle politics

11.neutrality in any affair is ill advised

12.force should not be limited to defense of our country

13. despise libertarians and constitutionalists

14.view civil rights as relevant

15. unconditionaly support Israel (close ties to Lakude)

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Re: What in the world is a NEOCON? I'm serious...
it is a fake limited gov movement that is rooted deeply in leo straus's ideas, who personally taught Paul Wolfowitz.
trotsky and makaveli are quoted heavily in his teachings, including


1.permanent revolution violent and intellectual

2.the people can be lied as the reg. joe is not equip to handle reality of political situations


3. the ends justify the means

4.redraw the map in the middle east, by force in ness.

more when i remeber
 Quoting: scallywagg444


They should be called Neo-Bolsheviks, after all that's what they REALLY are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1392695


An honest independent media would have brought that up. among other things.
How can a man serve two totally dissimilar countries and cultures?
How can such a disproportionate representative population accumulate when christians are being excoriated in public for believing that all men are equal and should be treated as such, compared to what the chosen believe and write in their books, yet, crickets...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


True: You can't serve two masters.
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MAYBE, identicle twins, maybe. Certainly not totally dissimilar ones with opposed agendas.
American culture has nothing in common with izzie culture, at any functional level. It's a racist state where outsiders are considered animals. It sounds fantastical, but if you consider the history there is no other conclusion you can draw. There is no 'fair and balanced" in that culture or religion, that gets all up in the way of unlimited entitlement.
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08/15/2011 05:38 PM
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[link to www.youtube.com]


[link to www.youtube.com]
shortened version of neo-conned (ignore racist title)


[link to www.youtube.com]
Ron Paul talks about American power structure, FED, Trilateral Commission and CFR (August 1988)



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RON PAUL: THE TEN PRINCIPLES OF A FREE SOCIETY

1. Rights belong to individuals, not groups; they derive from our nature and can neither be granted nor taken away by government.

2. All peaceful, voluntary economic and social associations are permitted; consent is the basis of the social and economic order.

3. Justly acquired property is privately owned by individuals and voluntary groups, and this ownership cannot be arbitrarily voided by governments.

4. Government may not redistribute private wealth or grant special privileges to any individual or group.

5. Individuals are responsible for their own actions; government cannot and should not protect us from ourselves.

6. Government may not claim the monopoly over a people's money and governments must never engage in official counterfeiting, even in the name of macroeconomic stability.

7. Aggressive wars, even when called preventative, and even when they pertain only to trade relations, are forbidden.
8. Jury nullification, that is, the right of jurors to judge the law as well as the facts, is a right of the people and the courtroom norm.

9. All forms of involuntary servitude are prohibited, not only slavery but also conscription, forced association, and forced welfare distribution.

10. Government must obey the law that it expects other people to obey and thereby must never use force to mold behavior, manipulate social outcomes, manage the economy, or tell other countries how to behave.


neo-cons defined



1. are NOT conservatives

2.permanent revolution, violent and intellectual !

3.re-drawing map of middle east

4.pre-emptive war

5. the ends justify the emans

6.encourage welfare state by 0 opposition

7.American empire

8.lying is nessecary for the state to survive

9.powerful and centralized federal gov.

10. society run by elite, as common man can't handle politics

11.neutrality in any affair is ill advised

12.force should not be limited to defense of our country

13. despise libertarians and constitutionalists

14.view civil rights as relevant

15. unconditionaly support Israel (close ties to Lakude)
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08/15/2011 06:13 PM
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Re: What in the world is a NEOCON? I'm serious...
It should be pointed out that a lot of the names mentioned previously were actually voted in by, or set in place by, a democratic system....Just sayin' to voters.





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