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Is your existence a loop or a spiral?

 
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whatever so long as most of us agree and act according to the plan. With our language we can reflect the image of our conceptualization into a mirror, reflected into a mirror, as ourselves, into infinity. Or not. But we must as a species learn to understand that we make the rules. Not observe them.
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think of it as an enormous revolving door, with an infinite number of entrances and exits, but always leading back to the core, learn to control where you get on or off, and you can time travel
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
We may be existing in a temporal loop.

It is one way to explain so many anomalies.

Anomalies that need to be explained.

1.Civilization seems to spontaneously arisen about 6000 years ago.
2.Antiquity almost invariably contains stories of gods coming and
A. Mating with humans
B. Bringing technology such as agriculture and writing.
3.Antiquity almost invariably contains stories of a past and future cataclysm.
4.Many ancient sources include the idea that this is not the first 'earth'.
5.2012 is pointed at by too many different traditions to be coincidence.
6.Ancient sources refer to a past and future golden age.


The mechanism:

I propose the possibility that the time line (most likely local in my opinion) has looped in on its self to a point in the past. This point is most likely 12 to 6 thousand years ago.

The time line ends in cataclysm, perhaps a flood, quake, etc, etc.

Because the time line would now take on the geometry of a loop, the beginning of the time line (12-6 TYA) would exist both as our future and past simultaneously. Likewise, the end of the loop (nowish) would exist both as the future and past for the beginning of the loop simultaneously.


If time is looping and our past were also our future then the survivors of the cataclysm would continue through the loop back into the past.

Imagine walking in a closed loop. Everything would be new to you until the instant you get back to the beginning of the loop. In a temporal loop there would be nothing preventing you from moving from the current temporal position to the next position in the loop even though the would actually be in the past.


Hypothesis have been proposed that aliens or demons came to this planet in antiquity. I find this lacking. Aliens and spirit creatures are of another species. They could not be genetically compatible.

The ancients living at the beginning of the loop will see you as gods. They will see the time period that you describe as a 'golden age'. They will see the cataclysm that we both will have simultaneously experienced. You will know it is a time loop and tell them of the future cataclysm. You will take them as mates and produce 'demi-gods'.

Some of you will encode what you know until the time that it can be rediscovered that 12212012 is the end date (possibility). You will pass on to them that this is only one of many 'earths' 'suns'.

Some of you will pass on to them writing, agriculture, and civilization.
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May I ask how did civilization spontaneously rise about 6000 years ago? They have found cities already much older than that, and there are cities obviously on the bottom of the ocean. Large buried city in Southern africa discovered, far bigger than any earth cities not long ago. This planet has been fully populated several times now. cycles of change sink them.

I see, editing maybe you are considering older than 6000 years I am a little lost in what you have espoused, but the time loops are obvious, in terms of the trip around Alcyone every 26,000 years, time spend in photon belts, which producing a cleansing of man each time, almost always. Man has always overpopulated himself on this planet and periodically nature handles that one. don't forget to leave out GOD in the mix. Not God a person, but within man which has yet to manifest globally at any point in our history.
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I look at it like that show sliders. (less dramatic and mabe admitantly not as well acted). But I better stop and not go more christ consciosness on everyone.
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
so mabe we can decide whether its a loop or spiral?
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Or an ellipse.
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I think it's a loop...everything repeating...

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere


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think of it as an enormous revolving door, with an infinite number of entrances and exits, but always leading back to the core, learn to control where you get on or off, and you can time travel
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exit = 196
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
time and space being human constructs. time travel is more than possible. Check out internet experiences of the "FOTOMECUS servitor". My own experiences reflect this malleability.
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
time and space being human constructs. time travel is more than possible. Check out internet experiences of the "FOTOMECUS servitor". My own experiences reflect this malleability.
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time travel is the traveling thru akashic records. Time and space indeed exist.
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
so mabe we can decide whether its a loop or spiral?
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Or an ellipse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1506351


I think it's a loop...everything repeating...

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere



 Quoting: Sugarelf


lo shu magic square?! oh dear lord...this is gonna be hard to figure out lol

hf
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
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Or an ellipse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1506351


I think it's a loop...everything repeating...

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere



 Quoting: Sugarelf


lo shu magic square?! oh dear lord...this is gonna be hard to figure out lol

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere


well, it can be an issue

hf

oh and it's just 3-D suduko :)
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I think it's a loop...everything repeating...

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere



 Quoting: Sugarelf


lo shu magic square?! oh dear lord...this is gonna be hard to figure out lol

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere


well, it can be an issue

hf

oh and it's just 3-D suduko :)
 Quoting: Sugarelf


I suck at suduko! oh no....

hf
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 Quoting: Sugarelf


lo shu magic square?! oh dear lord...this is gonna be hard to figure out lol

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere


well, it can be an issue

hf

oh and it's just 3-D suduko :)
 Quoting: Sugarelf


I suck at suduko! oh no....

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere


have you played Go ??
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lo shu magic square?! oh dear lord...this is gonna be hard to figure out lol

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere


well, it can be an issue

hf

oh and it's just 3-D suduko :)
 Quoting: Sugarelf


I suck at suduko! oh no....

hf
 Quoting: Angelseverywhere


have you played Go ??
 Quoting: Sugarelf


'course Go doesn't mean go !!

hf hf
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
In so far as Akashic records go. Don't quote new age dogma at me hippie. You cannot prove that concept range exists any more than I can disprove it. But by doing certain things, certain results follow. That is all. Go back to Blavatski. Speculation reinforced by ritual and veracity of beleif might as well be Catholicism. But such theories don't have nearly the followers. And obviously not many followers who posess operator consciousness.
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
time and space are temporal illusions. constructs of language, belief and ritual.
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
if you want to believe that time and space are part of some "objective reality" that you can study as if you arnt part of it on a wave particle energy hologram level, be my guest. im sure many universities are full of such "students" studying this reality-is-seperate-from-my/our-mind quasi religios system. the slaves shall serve and the kings shall rule.
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
I cant prove this so its my own belief. I think the Eisenburg-rosen bridge exists in the human brain. The Pineal glad, the Hipothalmus, and the Hippocampus mabe. So those universes in each person in the graphic would be gates that can open and manifest data as reality. Like a IBM mainframe. Write a program. Punch it. Wait for results to be spit back. Do magick.
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```:,mkj8:

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nice smilies !!

the middle one speaks volumes (they all do for that matter)
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
Ha! Im in the midst of a death spiral over here.
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Ha! Im in the midst of a death spiral over here.
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Utrippinbro?
Peace and Love \/m
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Ha! Im in the midst of a death spiral over here.
 Quoting: alpha>me<omega


Utrippinbro?
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lol I wish, been fighting life for awhile now. Its been beating the shit out of me. But im still standing.
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
Ha! Im in the midst of a death spiral over here.
 Quoting: alpha>me<omega


Utrippinbro?
 Quoting: Zlyle14


lol I wish, been fighting life for awhile now. Its been beating the shit out of me. But im still standing.
 Quoting: alpha>me<omega


Aww, sorry dude. Hope that lightened it up for ya though :P

Have hope though, there's always a good that will come after a bad, just be patient. I know how you feel, you just gotta keep on keepin' on
Peace and Love \/m
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Re: Is your existence a loop or a spiral?
Ha! Im in the midst of a death spiral over here.
 Quoting: alpha>me<omega


Utrippinbro?
 Quoting: Zlyle14


lol I wish, been fighting life for awhile now. Its been beating the shit out of me. But im still standing.
 Quoting: alpha>me<omega


Aww, sorry dude. Hope that lightened it up for ya though :P

Have hope though, there's always a good that will come after a bad, just be patient. I know how you feel, you just gotta keep on keepin' on
 Quoting: Zlyle14


Yea thanks man, think im in the licking my wounds stage. Anyway, didnt mean to hijack the thread. Peace





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