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Seeking spiritual guidance.

 
oRbZ  (OP)

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I saw the same things, OP.

Demon faces flying toward me. I wasn't afraid and was able to just watch them appear and fade away.

Now I see what I call "real" people and sometimes they speak to me or acknowledge my presence.

I also listen in on conversations between them and most of the time I don't understand what they're talking about.

I saw a woman, once, looking out a window. She turned and looked directly at me and said "This is where it happened".

I asked what happened, but she faded away.
I've had other experiences like this and every time I try to communicate they disappear.

They speak to me, but won't answer when I speak to them.
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Thanks for sharing.

When you say you dont understand do you mean a different language or something else?
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For spiritual guidance, check out [link to www.in5d.com]
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It's not a different language.

It's usually something technical or about something I have no knowledge or experience of--something I could never think of myself which proves to me that I've tapped into something.

I saw two guys in an office talking about their job. It was science-related and I didn't have a clue what they were talking about. I can't remember the conversation, but I do know I didn't understand it at all.

Another thing I find interesting is that sometimes I see people from earlier times.

A British soldier in India a hundred years or so ago.

An older man and young woman from the Civil War era.

Native Americans on horses on a ridge.

My favorite is the time I saw a window, blue sky and clouds and a hand comes in the window. The hand opens revealing a tiny earth. I love that one!
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It sounds very cool, but a little confusing.
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As I said before what got me in to meditating was seeing orbs, I wanted to try to say hi.

The first time I had an experience with all of this was three years ago. I was at my friends house and went on to his balcony for a smoke when I saw a completely square cloud this thing just did not fit in, all the other clouds were floating past this square cloud it had corners and did not move or change shape for a couple of hours I showed my friends and they were like oh cool then walked away not questioning it, I did, I wanted so bad to know what it was I was staring at it for hours wondering what the fuck was going on.
I then went inside for a while and when I came back outside the cloud was gone but an orb had appeared it was floating high up in the sky had a blue white light appearance to it and looked like it was flowing from left to right like a leaf does when falling from a tree.
Anyway this orb was high above me and I was just standing there transfixed I could not move I was calm of mind and body (which for me is unusual I am a fidget) when the orb shined a blue white beam down on to me and at that moment my whole world changed.

I saw myself through myself if that makes sense, kind of like this [link to www.google.co.uk] but with a big shining light in the middle of my chest.
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Don't look back or ahead.

Exist fully in the moment that is unfolding and trust your intuition. You are an anchor and a conduit for the great change that is undoubtedly upon us. Embrace it.

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As I said before what got me in to meditating was seeing orbs, I wanted to try to say hi.

The first time I had an experience with all of this was three years ago. I was at my friends house and went on to his balcony for a smoke when I saw a completely square cloud this thing just did not fit in, all the other clouds were floating past this square cloud it had corners and did not move or change shape for a couple of hours I showed my friends and they were like oh cool then walked away not questioning it, I did, I wanted so bad to know what it was I was staring at it for hours wondering what the fuck was going on.
I then went inside for a while and when I came back outside the cloud was gone but an orb had appeared it was floating high up in the sky had a blue white light appearance to it and looked like it was flowing from left to right like a leaf does when falling from a tree.
Anyway this orb was high above me and I was just standing there transfixed I could not move I was calm of mind and body (which for me is unusual I am a fidget) when the orb shined a blue white beam down on to me and at that moment my whole world changed.

I saw myself through myself if that makes sense, kind of like this [link to www.google.co.uk] but with a big shining light in the middle of my chest.
 Quoting: oRbZ


Don't look back or ahead.

Exist fully in the moment that is unfolding and trust your intuition. You are an anchor and a conduit for the great change that is undoubtedly upon us. Embrace it.

hf
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Thank you, I am embracing this but would still like to understand.
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As I said before what got me in to meditating was seeing orbs, I wanted to try to say hi.

The first time I had an experience with all of this was three years ago. I was at my friends house and went on to his balcony for a smoke when I saw a completely square cloud this thing just did not fit in, all the other clouds were floating past this square cloud it had corners and did not move or change shape for a couple of hours I showed my friends and they were like oh cool then walked away not questioning it, I did, I wanted so bad to know what it was I was staring at it for hours wondering what the fuck was going on.
I then went inside for a while and when I came back outside the cloud was gone but an orb had appeared it was floating high up in the sky had a blue white light appearance to it and looked like it was flowing from left to right like a leaf does when falling from a tree.
Anyway this orb was high above me and I was just standing there transfixed I could not move I was calm of mind and body (which for me is unusual I am a fidget) when the orb shined a blue white beam down on to me and at that moment my whole world changed.

I saw myself through myself if that makes sense, kind of like this [link to www.google.co.uk] but with a big shining light in the middle of my chest.
 Quoting: oRbZ


Don't look back or ahead.

Exist fully in the moment that is unfolding and trust your intuition. You are an anchor and a conduit for the great change that is undoubtedly upon us. Embrace it.

hf
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Thank you, I am embracing this but would still like to understand.
 Quoting: oRbZ


We all want to understand.

From where we are at this moment, it is impossible to grasp. Full understanding can only come when we transcend the physical.

Know this and proceed without worries if you can. There are many of us and you are never alone.
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IMO, orbz, much of this is for personal revelations. They are awesome experiences designed to 'open' your eyes to possibilities.

Much of these types of experiences that I have gone through, I always think that my 'Higher Self' is involved with them. Even to the point of 'seeing scary images' or even having extremely frightening experiences. All part of a process to help you go beyond where you are at now. And that process was put into motion by yourself, and your 'Higher Self' putting the scenarios together for you to experience exactly what you are in need of to open yourself up more fully.

There are many, many people who end up backing out of the process, because it is 'too much' for them. The unknown attributes are too fearful, as they do not think it is part of them letting it happen. In other words, they do not know the true power of the individual soul. They do not believe that there are unknown parts of ourselves (Higher Self) that protect us, empower us, love us. In truth, when you begin merging the higher aspects of 'yourself' you find that you are indestructible, and the only thing that can block you from attaining anything, is fear.
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You should also watch out that it is not some kind of schizophrenia. The human mind is so powerful, it can manifest countless of things that the person wishes and imagines.

As the saying goes: check yourself, so you don't wreck yourself.

Truth is the certainty in recognizing reality. Everything else are human made-up lies and delusions.
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IMO, orbz, much of this is for personal revelations. They are awesome experiences designed to 'open' your eyes to possibilities.

Much of these types of experiences that I have gone through, I always think that my 'Higher Self' is involved with them. Even to the point of 'seeing scary images' or even having extremely frightening experiences. All part of a process to help you go beyond where you are at now. And that process was put into motion by yourself, and your 'Higher Self' putting the scenarios together for you to experience exactly what you are in need of to open yourself up more fully.

There are many, many people who end up backing out of the process, because it is 'too much' for them. The unknown attributes are too fearful, as they do not think it is part of them letting it happen. In other words, they do not know the true power of the individual soul. They do not believe that there are unknown parts of ourselves (Higher Self) that protect us, empower us, love us. In truth, when you begin merging the higher aspects of 'yourself' you find that you are indestructible, and the only thing that can block you from attaining anything, is fear.
 Quoting: SickScent


Yes fear has been my biggest block.

As I said earlier in the thread I have been working very hard on myself to release this and have taken leaps and bounds.

I am getting closer but am unsure of what I am getting closer too, I have questions but do not know how to word them and since the past couple of days it has taken on a different level now almost more urgent like time is running out or speeding up am not 100% sure.

If I knew what questions to ask I would go within and ask, oh the drama lol.

I am not worried and really want to embrace this I have never been indoctrinated never went school or church I actually taught myself to read and write, I have none of the usual hang ups apart from my own demons, which I have been and am working on.
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You should also watch out that it is not some kind of schizophrenia. The human mind is so powerful, it can manifest countless of things that the person wishes and imagines.

As the saying goes: check yourself, so you don't wreck yourself.

Truth is the certainty in recognizing reality. Everything else are human made-up lies and delusions.
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Yep just checked I'm fine.5a
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IMO, orbz, much of this is for personal revelations. They are awesome experiences designed to 'open' your eyes to possibilities.

Much of these types of experiences that I have gone through, I always think that my 'Higher Self' is involved with them. Even to the point of 'seeing scary images' or even having extremely frightening experiences. All part of a process to help you go beyond where you are at now. And that process was put into motion by yourself, and your 'Higher Self' putting the scenarios together for you to experience exactly what you are in need of to open yourself up more fully.

There are many, many people who end up backing out of the process, because it is 'too much' for them. The unknown attributes are too fearful, as they do not think it is part of them letting it happen. In other words, they do not know the true power of the individual soul. They do not believe that there are unknown parts of ourselves (Higher Self) that protect us, empower us, love us. In truth, when you begin merging the higher aspects of 'yourself' you find that you are indestructible, and the only thing that can block you from attaining anything, is fear.
 Quoting: SickScent


Yes fear has been my biggest block.

As I said earlier in the thread I have been working very hard on myself to release this and have taken leaps and bounds.

I am getting closer but am unsure of what I am getting closer too, I have questions but do not know how to word them and since the past couple of days it has taken on a different level now almost more urgent like time is running out or speeding up am not 100% sure.

If I knew what questions to ask I would go within and ask, oh the drama lol.


I am not worried and really want to embrace this I have never been indoctrinated never went school or church I actually taught myself to read and write, I have none of the usual hang ups apart from my own demons, which I have been and am working on.
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See, that's a great point right there! When you ask questions, the answer lies within the experiences, not in words or language.

They are designed for you to not know the answers, until you go through the experiences. Only by hindsight will you EVER find the answers to the questions. It is the most incredible teaching tool ever devised, and the most difficult. BUT, you have eternity to get it right!
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IMO, orbz, much of this is for personal revelations. They are awesome experiences designed to 'open' your eyes to possibilities.

Much of these types of experiences that I have gone through, I always think that my 'Higher Self' is involved with them. Even to the point of 'seeing scary images' or even having extremely frightening experiences. All part of a process to help you go beyond where you are at now. And that process was put into motion by yourself, and your 'Higher Self' putting the scenarios together for you to experience exactly what you are in need of to open yourself up more fully.

There are many, many people who end up backing out of the process, because it is 'too much' for them. The unknown attributes are too fearful, as they do not think it is part of them letting it happen. In other words, they do not know the true power of the individual soul. They do not believe that there are unknown parts of ourselves (Higher Self) that protect us, empower us, love us. In truth, when you begin merging the higher aspects of 'yourself' you find that you are indestructible, and the only thing that can block you from attaining anything, is fear.
 Quoting: SickScent


Yes fear has been my biggest block.

As I said earlier in the thread I have been working very hard on myself to release this and have taken leaps and bounds.

I am getting closer but am unsure of what I am getting closer too, I have questions but do not know how to word them and since the past couple of days it has taken on a different level now almost more urgent like time is running out or speeding up am not 100% sure.

If I knew what questions to ask I would go within and ask, oh the drama lol.


I am not worried and really want to embrace this I have never been indoctrinated never went school or church I actually taught myself to read and write, I have none of the usual hang ups apart from my own demons, which I have been and am working on.
 Quoting: oRbZ


See, that's a great point right there! When you ask questions, the answer lies within the experiences, not in words or language.

They are designed for you to not know the answers, until you go through the experiences. Only by hindsight will you EVER find the answers to the questions. It is the most incredible teaching tool ever devised, and the most difficult. BUT, you have eternity to get it right!
 Quoting: SickScent


So basically just ride the wave and once the experience happens then my questions will be answered!!!!
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IMO, orbz, much of this is for personal revelations. They are awesome experiences designed to 'open' your eyes to possibilities.

Much of these types of experiences that I have gone through, I always think that my 'Higher Self' is involved with them. Even to the point of 'seeing scary images' or even having extremely frightening experiences. All part of a process to help you go beyond where you are at now. And that process was put into motion by yourself, and your 'Higher Self' putting the scenarios together for you to experience exactly what you are in need of to open yourself up more fully.

There are many, many people who end up backing out of the process, because it is 'too much' for them. The unknown attributes are too fearful, as they do not think it is part of them letting it happen. In other words, they do not know the true power of the individual soul. They do not believe that there are unknown parts of ourselves (Higher Self) that protect us, empower us, love us. In truth, when you begin merging the higher aspects of 'yourself' you find that you are indestructible, and the only thing that can block you from attaining anything, is fear.
 Quoting: SickScent


Yes fear has been my biggest block.

As I said earlier in the thread I have been working very hard on myself to release this and have taken leaps and bounds.

I am getting closer but am unsure of what I am getting closer too, I have questions but do not know how to word them and since the past couple of days it has taken on a different level now almost more urgent like time is running out or speeding up am not 100% sure.

If I knew what questions to ask I would go within and ask, oh the drama lol.


I am not worried and really want to embrace this I have never been indoctrinated never went school or church I actually taught myself to read and write, I have none of the usual hang ups apart from my own demons, which I have been and am working on.
 Quoting: oRbZ


See, that's a great point right there! When you ask questions, the answer lies within the experiences, not in words or language.

They are designed for you to not know the answers, until you go through the experiences. Only by hindsight will you EVER find the answers to the questions. It is the most incredible teaching tool ever devised, and the most difficult. BUT, you have eternity to get it right!
 Quoting: SickScent


So basically just ride the wave and once the experience happens then my questions will be answered!!!!
 Quoting: oRbZ


That's how it worked out for me. After going through these processes (even ET experiences), I understand the reason for having to go through them. It is necessary. If you were just handed the answers, you wouldn't CHANGE. Only by going though the experiences and coming out the other side, will you change in accordance to what you truly are. AND< when you truly end up realizing that you found the answers by experiencing them, the questions begin to finally dissolve, and you will find there really are no reasons for the questions...only the experiences. There is an incredible sense of relief, of letting go.
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Yes fear has been my biggest block.

As I said earlier in the thread I have been working very hard on myself to release this and have taken leaps and bounds.

I am getting closer but am unsure of what I am getting closer too, I have questions but do not know how to word them and since the past couple of days it has taken on a different level now almost more urgent like time is running out or speeding up am not 100% sure.

If I knew what questions to ask I would go within and ask, oh the drama lol.


I am not worried and really want to embrace this I have never been indoctrinated never went school or church I actually taught myself to read and write, I have none of the usual hang ups apart from my own demons, which I have been and am working on.
 Quoting: oRbZ


See, that's a great point right there! When you ask questions, the answer lies within the experiences, not in words or language.

They are designed for you to not know the answers, until you go through the experiences. Only by hindsight will you EVER find the answers to the questions. It is the most incredible teaching tool ever devised, and the most difficult. BUT, you have eternity to get it right!
 Quoting: SickScent


So basically just ride the wave and once the experience happens then my questions will be answered!!!!
 Quoting: oRbZ


That's how it worked out for me. After going through these processes (even ET experiences), I understand the reason for having to go through them. It is necessary. If you were just handed the answers, you wouldn't CHANGE. Only by going though the experiences and coming out the other side, will you change in accordance to what you truly are. AND< when you truly end up realizing that you found the answers by experiencing them, the questions begin to finally dissolve, and you will find there really are no reasons for the questions...only the experiences. There is an incredible sense of relief, of letting go.
 Quoting: SickScent


I think I am starting to understand, I just tried to write an example of how I have changed through the experience's I have had but was unable to put it in to words, lets just say my whole world is different and it started exactly 3 years ago give or take a day from today.

I am feeling like I am about to make another step.
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What a good thread! Hey, I am also on the journey to self discovery, and I can certainly attest to the fact that you have to experience many things to grow and learn who you are 'as above so below'. Like anything spiritual, it is really very personal, and no two experiences are just alike.

My first encounter happened at 15, and it scared me something terrible. I became aware of my higher self, but being so indoctrinated in religion, fear was the only thing I could feel. It's taken me this long(25 + years) to get rid of the fear and face my own 'music', which is not easy, at least not for me.

But, if you do not face your personal demons, head on, you can't keep going forward. Forgiving myself and others was my big thing. I'm learning though. And every really bad thing that seemed to unfairly happen to me, has consistently turned into a blessing in disguise.

For me, the answers have always been in unconditional love, compassion, and forgiveness. Loving myself is a work in progress, and the higher self can really be critical, but that is what I see as my conscience, in some ways.

Once, while heavily medicated after my leg surgery, I woke up in the middle of the night, and dosed two different people my pills, me and ME. And it was all very real, I remember doing it, and caught myself just in time not to overdose!

Like you, a lot of us are searching and working at this. I appreciate all the great advice here.
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I am feeling like I am about to make another step.
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Buckle up your seatbelt - Here is an elevator straight to the top!

Perhaps my greatest regret now is the realisation that, whilst I was seeking and searching mentally, psychically and occultly to discover that 'breakthrough' to spirit for which I longed, the Light of Unity with all things, all creatures, all Beings, all Hosts, all Powers, dwelt within me in effable glory.

'I am the Light of the World' means just that.

The Light dwells in all of us as a shining effulgence, the Light of Oneness with all Spirit, the blessed awareness and acknowledgement of unity with all creation, from the lesser to the Higher Orders, even to the Throne of Grace Itself.

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So basically just ride the wave and once the experience happens then my questions will be answered!!!!
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That's how it worked out for me. After going through these processes (even ET experiences), I understand the reason for having to go through them. It is necessary. If you were just handed the answers, you wouldn't CHANGE. Only by going though the experiences and coming out the other side, will you change in accordance to what you truly are. AND< when you truly end up realizing that you found the answers by experiencing them, the questions begin to finally dissolve, and you will find there really are no reasons for the questions...only the experiences. There is an incredible sense of relief, of letting go.
 Quoting: SickScent


Spot on.

To live by Faith alone implies adherence to certain precepts.

To live by Experience is to build a transept, to cross the 't's.

Faith in what? Each faith is peculiar and currupted.

Experience turns Faith into Knowledge.
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I am feeling like I am about to make another step.
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Buckle up your seatbelt - Here is an elevator straight to the top!

Perhaps my greatest regret now is the realisation that, whilst I was seeking and searching mentally, psychically and occultly to discover that 'breakthrough' to spirit for which I longed, the Light of Unity with all things, all creatures, all Beings, all Hosts, all Powers, dwelt within me in effable glory.

'I am the Light of the World' means just that.

The Light dwells in all of us as a shining effulgence, the Light of Oneness with all Spirit, the blessed awareness and acknowledgement of unity with all creation, from the lesser to the Higher Orders, even to the Throne of Grace Itself.
 Quoting: Adonai


hf
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So basically just ride the wave and once the experience happens then my questions will be answered!!!!
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That's how it worked out for me. After going through these processes (even ET experiences), I understand the reason for having to go through them. It is necessary. If you were just handed the answers, you wouldn't CHANGE. Only by going though the experiences and coming out the other side, will you change in accordance to what you truly are. AND< when you truly end up realizing that you found the answers by experiencing them, the questions begin to finally dissolve, and you will find there really are no reasons for the questions...only the experiences. There is an incredible sense of relief, of letting go.
 Quoting: SickScent


Spot on.

To live by Faith alone implies adherence to certain precepts.

To live by Experience is to build a transept, to cross the 't's.

Faith in what? Each faith is peculiar and currupted.

Experience turns Faith into Knowledge.

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Amen
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Thank you everyone who has participated I have gathered a few good links to go off and research and some things to contemplate on.

hf
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Thank you everyone who has participated I have gathered a few good links to go off and research and some things to contemplate on.

hf
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Great thread OP..."ask and you shall receive"

did we just witness a few of the 144000

hf to one and all





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