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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1485266  United States08/16/2011 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1485266 United States08/16/2011 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This document from Freedom League provides a brief overview of the fed scam and the remedy found therein. [link to www.silverbearcafe.com] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1485266 United States08/16/2011 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1485266 United States08/16/2011 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 475553 United States08/16/2011 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485266 cool thanks. followed the other thread, interesting stuff. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 475553 United States08/16/2011 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1507705 United States08/16/2011 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1507639 United States08/16/2011 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1485266 United States08/16/2011 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1507639 United States08/16/2011 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, has anyone tried it and what happened? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1507705You first. If you send me a letter from the Federal Pen I promise to write back, but I'll have to hire someone to deliver the mail to you because I don't want them to know I knew you and my return address WON'T be on the envelope.  |
| Pleeb User ID: 1346883 United States08/16/2011 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, has anyone tried it and what happened? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1507705You first. If you send me a letter from the Federal Pen I promise to write back, but I'll have to hire someone to deliver the mail to you because I don't want them to know I knew you and my return address WON'T be on the envelope. There's people talking about federal cases in that other thread; 66 pages is a lot to read, for me, I'm not sure I understand this all that well though. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1485266 United States08/16/2011 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 294459 United States08/16/2011 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tax arguments always fail because the income tax scam is contract law. The Federal Reserve is a private corporation and the "money" we use is THEIR private currency. You are contracting with the Fed every time you endorse your paycheck and at the end of each year you have to make a RETURN of income. This is where the IRS comes in, they are the enforcement goons for the Federal Reserve and a private corporation as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485266So, how do you stop contracting with the banksters and opt-out of the Federal Reserve/IRS System? By restricting your signature endorsement with your demand for lawful money (per 12 USC §411). This remedy is available to everyone and can be easily understood and implemented by the average person. You can start with your next paycheck! Here's a fantastic thread with everything you will need to empower yourself to get started. This 66 page thread has some very knowledgeable contributors and a wealth of resource links. Thread: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Stop endorsing Fed credit!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 754595 United States08/16/2011 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1485266 United States08/16/2011 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485266 TITLE 12 > CHAPTER 3 > SUBCHAPTER XII > § 411 § 411. Issuance to reserve banks; nature of obligation; redemption Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System for the purpose of making advances to Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose, are authorized. The said notes shall be obligations of the United States and shall be receivable by all national and member banks and Federal reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1501920 United States08/16/2011 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485266 Since you are proposing and condoning this, why don't you answer the previous question about doing this and the outcome of doing this? |
| Pangn User ID: 1379975 United States08/16/2011 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485266 Since you are proposing and condoning this, why don't you answer the previous question about doing this and the outcome of doing this? Please do. Has anyone successfully done this? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1485266 United States08/16/2011 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485266 Since you are proposing and condoning this, why don't you answer the previous question about doing this and the outcome of doing this? I'm not sure what you are asking. The links and resources I have provided are replete with testimony and examples of people redeeming lawful money. You need to examine them for yourself and come to your own conclusions. If I had known of this remedy, I would have started with my very first paycheck. Unfortunately, I, like many others, got schooled (not educated) in the public fool system. We are kept slaves through ignorance. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1485266 United States08/17/2011 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what do you receive when you demand lawful money? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488705There is no more gold standard link so it is not convertable to that. Silver certificates are gone. The United States notes no longer exist. David Merrill's videos linked above will answer your questions. -Public Money vs Private Credit -Federal Reserve Act - Remedy You are correct about gold and silver. It's all fiat currency today, backed by nothing. US Notes are the lawful money of the land, although they were taken out of circulation in the late 1970's. So, CONgress decided to make FRN's function as both. Now, when you redeem lawful money, you receive US Notes in the form of FRN's. The important thing about redeeming lawful money is making (and documenting) your demand. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 294459 United States08/17/2011 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1488705 United States08/17/2011 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | David Merrill's videos linked above will answer your questions. -Public Money vs Private Credit -Federal Reserve Act - Remedy You are correct about gold and silver. It's all fiat currency today, backed by nothing. US Notes are the lawful money of the land, although they were taken out of circulation in the late 1970's. So, CONgress decided to make FRN's function as both. Now, when you redeem lawful money, you receive US Notes in the form of FRN's. The important thing about redeeming lawful money is making (and documenting) your demand. So all we get upon the demand is more Federal Reserve Notes? This is a stupid and useless thread. It means the lawful money is the same as the worthless fiat money. Buy real gold |
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| sixmillion User ID: 1355994 United States10/19/2011 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be careful with this. Since money market funds do not have a credit-creating charter, courts will most likely determine that this is your remedy. All (my) banks and even brokerage sweeps give you this option. Of course you get low interest, but better than a regular savings account, and some of the stuff in money markets is questionable in today's economy, but don't be surprised when a judge tells you that's your remedy and you still owe taxes. Read up and do your best to limit fractional reserve by using money market funds. [link to en.wikipedia.org] "a Money Market account (these do not have a credit-creating charter)" [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1368376  Canada10/20/2011 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | David Merrill's videos linked above will answer your questions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488705 -Public Money vs Private Credit -Federal Reserve Act - Remedy You are correct about gold and silver. It's all fiat currency today, backed by nothing. US Notes are the lawful money of the land, although they were taken out of circulation in the late 1970's. So, CONgress decided to make FRN's function as both. Now, when you redeem lawful money, you receive US Notes in the form of FRN's. The important thing about redeeming lawful money is making (and documenting) your demand. So all we get upon the demand is more Federal Reserve Notes? This is a stupid and useless thread. It means the lawful money is the same as the worthless fiat money. Buy real gold Buying gold is no different than buying anything else that can be bartered, and do you really think gold will be worth more than something practically useful if the world economy's principles aren't changed soon? Because if they aren't, it won't matter what you have to barter with, if hardly any people are producing useful good to sell, cause if policy isn't changed soon there probably won't be much selling going on. OP, thanks for showing us another way the CORP GOVT has created a circular logic perpetual loop of bullshit. Trying to find remedy with the relationship before trying to find remedy for the issue causing the problem in the relationship may be the best halfway compromise, but what do you gain by compromising with a system that does nothing to compromise with you for what you want? |
Ah, you mean tobacco and pot shouldn't be taxed. Good on you bro...cough...cough.