The Garden of Eden Debacle

Adam and Eve were deceived into disobedience. They were enticed.

and they were IRRESISTIBLY enticed by one with superior power/intelligence...what´s fair about that???

your conclusions display mighty brain power there.

and if you think about it, it was really EVE, not poor innocent Adam, for Adam sinned out of LOVE for EVE. Once she had sinned, was he going to let her be evicted from the Garden without HIM???
NO

should add, that the original writer displays great brain power, not the OP

for the later crew

King James was the head Luciferian of his day. Do you honestly think he produced the "innerant Word of God"? uh huh LOL

Here´s what actually happened back then....


Forward: (Genesis Chapter 1)

The following was translated directly utilizing “E-Sword” and the attached “Strong’s 1890” concordance. The key of terms is:


Magistrates-------The “gods” of the heavens, the “shining ones”, Gabriel, Michael, the Cherubim and “lesser” of the upper Kingdom. Those from the top of the Kingdom created by “The Self Existent One” to have charge of His creation, the “Watchers”.


The “depths”-----------The realms “beneath” those “lofty” in the heavens. The “vineyard” realm, earth.


Illumination-----------The teaching of “Lucifer”, those of the rebellion


Ordinal First Ones----The “soul mates” created specifically for each of God’s children. The eternally mated, the eternally faithful. “Quitting themselves” is directed at those who “fail” by leaving their mate for “others”.


Expansive Arches of the Sky----Large mother ships of deep inter-galactic capability.



Glistening----------the glistening of the sexual act of procreation.


Festivals of feasting----orgies, feasts of fertility and procreation


Locust Nation------------Anunnaki, half “eternal” half “flesh” and combinations thereof including reptiles and many other moving life forms from which the “greys” etc. have been generated over the duration of this age.


Insolent Monsters--------A subset of the “Locust Nation”, reptilians, greys, etc.


Spread Skirt---------------Seek out sexual contact


Roaring Sea---------------Flesh nations of the Earth


Dawn of the Day---------Very beginning of the Kingdom in “full up” form with “vineyard” (earth) added.






The Book of Genesis

Chapter 1

(1) In the beginning, My first most chief Magistrates chose to create their own prodigies in the heavens from the nations of the earth.

(2) And the nations of the earth became confused; a worthless wasted ruin of sorrow because those of My charge touched the countenance of those of their employ making an uproar in the depths with their tempest of vanity from the sky. They are the Magistrates who obsessed to touch the persons of their charge with their semen,

(3) Magistrates who boasted of themselves saying “Come to be illumined, become kindled in the fire of our shining”,

(4) Magistrates who gazed one upon the other thinking of themselves as being illumined: and forasmuch My beautiful loving Magistrates were divided and separated by them from within as either “illumined” or “ignorant”.

(5) And these Magistrates preached their renowned “illumination” in those days, perpetually withholding the light, troubling the ignorant by publishing the twisted adversity of commingling. At the dawn of the day they fell by quitting themselves of their ordinal first Ones in the heat of the season of their youth.

(6) They are the Magistrates who determined the existence of the expansive arches of the sky (overlaid with thin sheets of metal) where within they severed their semen, these who fell quitting themselves of being separated for the differences between their semen and the semen

(7) of the Magistrates they labored to procure for their own use in their expansive arches of the sky (overlaid with thin sheets of metal). They selected and divided asunder with the distinction of their semen whoever was among those from below. These expansive arches of the sky (overlaid with thin sheets of metal) distinguish their semen as “from above” those they touch against, expansive arches of the sky (overlaid with thin sheets of metal) existing to use for such thing which

(8) these Magistrates are renowned, these who pounded the earth with their passion to spread them to the expanses of the heavens, these darkening the day to night at the dawn of the day, they who quit themselves to exist given over to the cause of perverting others. In the days now gone by

(9) they are the Magistrates who talked of desire intending their semen from above to be part of the humbled underneath the heavens, they who looked to twist them together with their ordinal first One’s standings, they who dried up My land with the confusion of their advisement of looking one upon the other. Committed to the cause of such thing

(10) they are the Magistrates who preached the drying confusion of this shame to the nations of the earth, those who cut themselves off hoping to be gathered to their pool of semen, they who published their invitation to the roaring sea. These are the Magistrates who advised the joyful gazing of one upon the other thinking then that surely this was a good thing.

(11) They are the Magistrates who charged the nations of the earth to bring forth the sprout of their glistening, to conceive the children of their posterity, the fruit of their stock that yielded the fruit of a portioned out species; those whose carnal posterity has touched among the nations of the earth. Those committed to the cause of the fall are such that followed

(12) the nations of the earth to bring forth the sprout of their glistening, those who disseminated their seed in the sowing-time of their posterity to portion out their stock to govern, their fruit, carnal children who were of their own species. And these Magistrates joyfully gazed upon them thinking then that surely this was a good thing,

(13) darkening the day to night at the dawn of the day to cause the requirement of the three ages.

(14) They are the Magistrates who boast, supposing themselves to be luminaries in their expansive arches of the sky (overlaid with thin sheets of metal), these lofty of the heavens have divided and separated themselves out as distinct as day is from night, they who quit themselves and became the monumental flag of consent for their appointed festivals of feasting in the heat of their younger days. And for the years of this whole age

(15) they have existed as fallen luminaries in their expansive arches of the sky (overlaid with thin sheets of metal), they aloft whose glory touches upon the nations of the earth; those (of the earth) who exist to be used for such thing follow

(16) these Magistrates to bring forth of themselves “other” second insolent “luminaries”, their own personal insolent “luminaries” who are rulers from the females in the realms of this age of adversity, burning princes

(17) these Magistrates willingly bring forth in their expansive arches of the sky to “shine” upon the nations of the earth.

(18) These are they who have caused the dominion of these rulers in the heat of the days gone by, those who twisted back My spiral staircase of light in the adversity of the night, they who selected out their distinguished “illumined” from within the “ignorant”, Magistrates who joyfully looked on thinking then that surely this was a good thing,

(19) darkening the day to night at the dawning of the day, quitting themselves on all four sides, sprawling them out in copulation in the heat of the days of old.

(20) These are the Magistrates who commanded the desire of semen, the wriggling breeding swarm (locust nation) of creatures lusting for flesh, those who fly to cover the swooning in darkness touching among the nations of the earth. And after the time of their touching among those who presented themselves in the open presence of the expansive arches of the sky (overlaid with thin sheets of metal), these are the lofty

(21) Magistrates who created from their own persons the exceedingly insolent monsters of every manner of living flesh, beasts of their lust that glide swiftly wherever their semen can breed abundantly and portion out their kind. And all of these overspread their skirts to the uttermost parts as a flock of birds whose kind these Magistrates joyfully looked upon thinking then that surely this was a good thing.

(22) These are the Magistrates who have cursed I, The Self Existent One by causing these to bring forth, multiplying those in authority who gather to themselves those they fill full of their own semen in the roaring sea, a flock of birds that has multiplied their authority in the nations of the earth

(23) darkening the day to night of the dawning day, committed to the breaking cause as able bodied soldiers perpetually troubling this whole age.

(24) These are the Magistrates who told the nations of the earth to bring forth these wild beasts of their lust, a species of dumb reptilian animals whose fleshly appetite in the nations of the earth is a kind portioned out to exist for the same cause as their

(25) Magistrates, those who bring forth their own flesh in the nations of the earth to portioning out their dumb specie of every manner of reptile or creeping thing. These have husbanded My land and portioned out their kind and these Magistrates joyfully looked upon them thinking then that surely this was a good thing.

(26) These are the Magistrates who boast of their fashioned ruddy human beings, phantom shades of their resemblance they bore with the prolific squirming of the females of the roaring sea, their flying flock in the heavens, dumb animals from all the nations of the earth and every manner of reptile or creeping animal according to their touching among the nations of the earth.

(27) These are the Magistrates who created from themselves ruddy human being phantoms as a vain show, the Magistrates who dispatched them as noteworthy males to pierce and curse My female form. These feeding creators

(28) are the Magistrates who have cursed I, The Self Existent One’s Magistrates, by telling them to be fruitful, to gather and fill their own persons full of the nations of the earth, those who subjugated and violated those of their dominion, those who prolifically squirmed with the females of the roaring sea as a flock from the heavens. They are all a springing troop of flesh that has moved swiftly to touch among the nations of the earth.

(29) They are the Magistrates who boasted of themselves saying, “Behold, we were appointed to give ourselves EVERYTHING, glisten, disseminate your seed, and sow your posterity”. And because of such thing those of their charge touched, presenting their countenance to all the nations of the earth. And every manner of stock who were of My first fruit stock sowed their seed to conceive their posterity, existing as the meat of female consumption.

(30) And all the flesh of the nations and all My flock of the heavens were all swarmed by those having the charge of the earth after which the contented ones desired their flesh for themselves. Everyone paled sickly in their glistening as the females consumed those who had quit themselves for such thing.

(31) And these Magistrates looked joyfully upon themselves and everything that they had labored to make. Behold the exceeding bounty of their pleasure, the darkening of the day to night at the dawning of the day, the accomplished cause of their mirthful over added females who have birthed the present season of trouble.

Adam and Eve were kicked out of Eden NOT for eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil...

They were kicked out before they could eat of the tree of eternal life.

Comtemplate several thoughts about the Eden myth..... WHY did God forbid the fruit of knowledge of Good and Evil? Perhaps so that Adam and Eve could not judge the actions of God as good or evil?

Here is another one... Did Satan(Lucifer) ever directly DISOBEY God? I would submit that every action taken by the "devil" is in accordance with God´s will...

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Re: The Garden of Eden Debacle

Adam and Eve were kicked out of Eden NOT for eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil...

They were kicked out before they could eat of the tree of eternal life.

Comtemplate several thoughts about the Eden myth..... WHY did God forbid the fruit of knowledge of Good and Evil? Perhaps so that Adam and Eve could not judge the actions of God as good or evil?

Here is another one... Did Satan(Lucifer) ever directly DISOBEY God? I would submit that every action taken by the "devil" is in accordance with God´s will...
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Not having my Bible right in front of me and paraphrasing from memory, I believe that it was written that God said to NOT eat of the Tree of the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil lest Ye partake of the Tree of Life and live forever WITH this knowledge of good and evil. So, in my mind, in this allegory God set Adam and Eve outside of the Garden of Eden after they had partaken of the KNOWLEDGE of good and evil knowing that it is a temporary sojourn into a land of illusion. In other words, in THIS land we face obstacles and duality (and life lessons) because we have knowledge of good and evil (or the duality of ALL), but the land where the true spirit of LIFE resides (the Garden of Eden, so to speak) is our rightful domain. There is where we can eat of the Tree of Life and live forever, ABOVE this illusion we now call life. It is interesting to note that in Genesis God puts Adam to sleep in order to form woman from his rib (another allegory), and that God NEVER wakes Adam up!!! A clue??

I don´t have a notion what that would be like to live without duality, and Adam and Eve had no clue what duality would be like until they experienced it. Good and evil are really on one scale, much like a thermometer measures the varying degrees of temperature, from hot to cold. Each degree on that thermometer is PERCEIVED by the individual and JUDGED as to it´s meaning by the individual. In other words, we each interpret for ourselves that which is on the same scale. Good and evil are on the SAME scale, and it is by our interpretations or perceptions that MAKES something good or evil, or anywhere in between. We have great power in this ability to discern, but instead of realizing that we DO have power, we act as if these things happen to us. Our perceptions are the cause and effect. The Alpha and the Omega.

Of course it would be very difficult in this stage of the game to believe that something bad COULD be something good as it seems the scale has grown very lengthy...the gap is very wide. But it is also worthy to note that as low as one can go is also as high as one can go. As far as one can swing in one direction is as far as one will swing in the other direction, as is evident in the swing of a pendulum. So maybe we can take comfort that as bad as things are the pendulum swing will also create a much better life, not BECAUSE of experiencing bad, but because we grow strong and resolute that bad is the OPPOSITE of what our spirit knows inside! And this is valuable KNOWLEDGE, imho! To further illustrate, what if the pendulum eventually swings so far to the left that it meets with the swing to the right? A complete circle where the demarcation of duality finally merges into ONE!

Okay...´nuff said. I could go on for hours and probably wouldn´t be able to accurately convey my thoughts. Sigh...

Have a good day!

Love and Hugs,
Sammie

YAY ! I have mighty brain power !!!
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Would just like to point out that this text was taken without my permission so hmm there were no compliments given to anyone.
Dude, just ask next time ey, even fish have manners.

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