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Baton-wielding anti-riot police in Madrid have dispersed about 150 protesters angry over the visit by the Pope and who had gathered in a main square.

Police had earlier blocked off the central Puerta del Sol square and used vans to hem in the demonstrators, furious over the cost of hosting the 84-year-old Pontiff, who arrived in Madrid earlier Thursday for the Catholic youth festival.
"They (the police) hit me five or six times. We came unarmed, we did nothing, we were here for a public demonstration," said Bruno, 30, who had blood on his elbow.
"Thank goodness I covered my head or I would have hit in the head," he said.
Ines Monroy Perez, 58, a museum employee said "they (the police) pushed me and I hid. People were running and they were being hit."
A spokesman for the Madrid emergency services said they had not attended to any injured.

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Oh and by the looks of the clip there is more than 150 protesters.
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Protesters – including some priests – are fuming over the official 50.5-million-euro ($73-million) price tag, excluding the cost of police and security, of the August 16-21 celebrations.

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The SLAVES wake up!

No one is above the Law of Sovereignity, which means
that all people are entitled to fysical and psychologic integrity.
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The SLAVES wake up!

No one is above the Law of Sovereignity, which means
that all people are entitled to fysical and psychologic integrity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510943


Is looking that way.
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The SLAVES wake up!
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there are some hundereds protesters and a million pilgers.
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The SLAVES wake up!
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there are some hundereds protesters and a million pilgers.
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I think if you look at the clip you will see more than a couple of hundred.

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The SLAVES wake up!

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Is looking that way.
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why they hate pope?why dont they stasrt their own version of christianity like english?
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The SLAVES wake up!

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Is looking that way.
 Quoting: oRbZ


why they hate pope?why dont they stasrt their own version of christianity like english?
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They dont hate him (I think)they are demonstrating about how much it is costing their country for him to visit, why does he not pay for himself the church has enough money.
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mira, they are anti-Catholics first
and concerned bout money second

Spain wastes tons of public money, at least this is for
something positive

Most of the money is for the police, overtime y cleaning
if wasn´t for the police it would be nada cost

Why IS MEDIA ONLY FOCUSING ON NEGATIVO?

WHY IS MEDIA ONLY FOCUSING ON THE BAD, AND NOT THE POSITIVE, THE HAPINESS OF YOUTHS Y IGLESIA?

PORQUE MEDIA IS USING YOU....MANIUPULACION
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Crime and punishment:

God speaking: 'If a man takes a stick and beats his slave, whether male or female, and the slave
dies on the spot, the man is to be punished. But if the slave does not die for a day or two, the
master is not to be punished. The loss of his property is punishment enough' (Exodus 21:20-21).

God speaking: 'If a man commits adultery with the wife of a fellow-Israelite, both he and the
woman shall be put to death' (Leviticus 20:10).

God speaking: 'If a man has sexual relations with another man, they have done a disgusting
thing, and both shall be put to death. They are responsible for their own death' (Leviticus
20:13).

God speaking: 'If a man marries a woman and her mother, all three shall be burnt to death
because of the disgraceful thing they have done' (Leviticus 20:14).

On a man who cursed God during a quarrel: 'The LORD said to Moses, "Take that man out of the
camp. Everyone who heard him curse shall put his hands on the man's head to testify that he is
guilty, and then the whole community shall stone him to death. Then tell the people of Israel
that anyone who curses God must suffer the consequences and be put to death. Any Israelite or
any foreigner living in Israel who curses the LORD shall be stoned to death by the whole
community"' (Leviticus 24:13-26).

'Once, while the Israelites were still in the wilderness, a man was found gathering firewood on
the Sabbath. He was taken to Moses, Aaron, and whole community, and was put under guard, because
it was not clear what should be done with him. Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must be put
to death; the whole community is to stone him to death outside the camp." So the whole community
took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD had commanded' (Numbers
15:32-36).

God speaking: 'Suppose a man has a son who is stubborn and rebellious, a son who will not obey
his parents, even though they punish him ... Then the men of the city are to stone him to death,
and so you will get rid of this evil' (Deuteronomy 21:18-21).

God speaking: 'But if the charge is true and there is no proof that the girl was a virgin, then
they are to take her out to the entrance of her father's house, where the men of her city are to
stone her to death. She has done a shameful thing among our people by having intercourse before
she was married, and while she was still living in her father's house. In this way you will get
rid of this evil' (Deuteronomy 22:20-21).

God speaking: 'Suppose a man is caught raping a girl who is not engaged. He is to pay the girl's
father the bride price of fifty pieces of silver, and she is to become his wife, because he
forced her to have intercourse with him' (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).

God speaking: 'If two men are having a fight and the wife of one tries to help her husband by
grabbing hold of the other man's genitals, show her no mercy; cut off her hand' (Deuteronomy
25:11-12).

Religious intolerance:

God speaking: 'Do not make any treaties with the people of the country into which you are going
... Instead, tear down their altars, destroy their sacred pillars, and cut down the symbols of
their goddess Asherah' (Exodus 34:12-13).

God speaking: 'In the land that you are taking, destroy all the places where the people worship
their gods on high mountains, on hills, and under green trees. Tear down their altars and smash
their sacred stone pillars to pieces. Burn their symbols of the goddess Asherah and chop down
their idols, so that they will never again be worshipped at those places' (Deuteronomy 12:2-3).

Death for apostasy:

God speaking: 'Even your brother or your son or your daughter or the wife you love or your
closest friend may secretly encourage you to worship other gods, gods that you and your
ancestors have never worshipped. One of them may encourage you to worship the gods of the people
who live near you or the gods of those who live far away. But do not let him persuade you; do
not even listen to him. Show him no mercy or pity, and do not protect him. Kill him! Be the
first to stone him, and then let everyone else stone him too. Stone him to death!' (Deuteronomy
13:6-10).

God speaking: 'When you are living in the towns that the LORD your God gives you, you may hear
that some worthless men of your nation have misled the people of their town to worship gods that
you have never worshipped before. If you hear such a rumour, investigate it thoroughly; and if
it is true that this evil thing did happen, then kill all the people in that town and all their
cattle too. Destroy that town completely. Bring together all the possessions of the people who
live there and pile them up in the town square. Then burn the town and everything in it as an
offering to the LORD your God. It must be left in ruins for ever and never again be rebuilt'
(Deuteronomy 13:12-16).

God speaking: 'Suppose you hear that in one of your towns some man or woman has sinned against
the LORD and broken his covenant by worshipping and serving other gods or the sun or the moon or
the stars, contrary to the LORD's command ... If it is true that this evil thing has happened in
Israel, then take that person outside the town and stone him to death' (Deuteronomy 17:2-5).

War crimes and genocide:

On the towns of King Sihon of Heshbon: '[W]e captured and destroyed every town, and put everyone
to death, men, women, and children. We took the cattle and plundered the towns' (Deuteronomy
2:34-35).

On the towns of King Og of Bashan: 'We destroyed all the towns and put to death all the men,
women, and children, just as we did in the towns that belonged to King Sihon of Heshbon. We took
the cattle and plundered the towns' (Deuteronomy 3:6-7).

God speaking: 'When you go to attack a city, first give its people a chance to surrender. If
they open the gates and surrender, they are all to become your slaves and do forced labour for
you. But if the people in that city will not surrender, but choose to fight, surround it with
your army. Then, when the LORD your God lets you capture the city, kill every man in it. You
may, however, take for yourselves the women, the children, the livestock, and everything else in
the city. You may use everything that belongs to your enemies. The LORD has given it to you.
That is how you are to deal with those cities that are far away from the land you will settle
in. But when you capture cities in the land that the LORD your God is giving you, kill everyone.
Completely destroy all the people: the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites,
the Hivites, and the Jebusites, as the LORD ordered you to do' (Deuteronomy 20:10-17).

God speaking: 'When the LORD you God gives you victory in battle and you take prisoners, you may
see among them a beautiful woman that you like and want to marry. Take her to your home ...
Later, if you no longer want her, you are to let her go free. Since you forced her to have
intercourse with you, you cannot treat her as a slave and sell her' (Deuteronomy 21:10-14).

On the city of Jericho: 'With their swords they killed everyone in the city, men and women,
young and old. They also killed the cattle, sheep, and donkeys' (Joshua 6:21).

'Then they set fire to the city and burnt it to the ground, along with everything in it, except
the things made of gold, silver, bronze, and iron, which they took and put in the LORD's
treasury' (Joshua 6:24).

On the city of Ai: 'The Israelites killed every one of the enemy in the barren country where
they had chased them. They then went back to Ai and killed everyone there. Joshua kept his spear
pointed at Ai and did not put it down until every person there had been killed. The whole
population of Ai was killed that day - twelve thousand men and women. The Israelites kept for
themselves the cattle and goods captured in the city, as the LORD had told Joshua. Joshua burnt
Ai and left it in ruins. It is still like that today. He hanged the king of Ai from a tree and
left his body there until evening. At sunset Joshua gave orders for the body to be removed, and
it was thrown down at the entrance to the city gate. They covered it with a huge pile of stones,
which is still there today' (Joshua 8:24-29).

'Joshua ordered the people of Gibeon to be brought to him, and he asked them, "Why did you
deceive us and tell us that you were from far away, when you live right here? Because you did
this, God has condemned you. Your people will always be slaves, cutting wood and carrying water
for the sanctuary of my God"' (Joshua 9:22-23).

Joshua attacked the cities of Makkedah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir, and surrounding
towns (Joshua 10:28-39). In each case, 'He spared no one; everyone was put to death. This was
what the LORD God of Israel had commanded' (Joshua 10:40). 'Joshua conquered all these kings and
their territory in one campaign because the LORD, Israel's God, was fighting for Israel' (Joshua
10:42).

'But they did not drive out the Canaanites who lived in Gezer, so the Canaanites have lived
among the Ephraimites to this day, but they have been forced to work as slaves' (Joshua 16:10).

'The Israelites had the army trapped, and without stopping they pursued them as far as a point
East of Gibeah, killing them as they went. Eighteen thousand of the best Benjaminite soldiers
were killed. The others turned and ran towards the open country to the Rock of Rimmon. Five
thousand of them were killed along the road. The Israelites continued to pursue the rest to
Gidom, killing two thousand. In all, twenty-five thousand Benjaminites were killed that day -
all of them brave soldiers. But six hundred men were able to escape to the open country to the
Rock of Rimmon, and they stayed there four months. The Israelites turned back against the rest
of the Benjaminites and killed them all - men, women, and children, and animals as well. They
burnt every town in the area' (Judges 20:43-46).

'So the assembly sent twelve thousand of their bravest men with the orders, "Go and kill
everyone in Jabesh, including the women and children. Kill all the males, and also any woman who
is not a virgin"' (Judges 21:10-11).

'Babylon, you will be destroyed. Happy is the man who pays you back for what you have done to us
- who takes your babies and smashes them against a rock' (Psalm 137:8-9).

God's punishments against his own people, the Israelites:

'Moses saw that Aaron had let the people get out of control and make fools of themselves in
front of their enemies. So he stood at the gate of the camp and shouted, "Everyone who is on the
LORD's side come over here!" So all the Levites gathered round him, and he said to them, "The
LORD God of Israel commands every one of you to put on his sword and go through the camp from
this gate to the other and kill his brothers, his friends, and his neighbours." The Levites
obeyed, and killed about three thousand men that day. Moses said to the Levites, "Today you have
consecrated yourselves as priests in the service of the LORD by killing your sons and brothers,
so the LORD has given you his blessing' (Exodus 32:25-29).

'Because the LORD Almighty is angry, his punishment burns like a fire throughout the land and
destroys the people ... Everywhere in the country people snatch and eat any bit of food they can
find, but their hunger is never satisfied. They even eat their own children!' (Isaiah 9:19-20).

Isaiah reporting God's message: 'Anyone who is caught will be stabbed to death. While they look
on helplessly, their babies will be battered to death, their houses will be looted, and their
wives will be raped. The LORD says, "I am stirring up the Medes to attack Babylon ... With their
bows and arrows they will kill the young men. They will show no mercy to babies and take no pity
on children"' (Isaiah 13:15-18).

God speaking: 'I destroyed you, my people, I killed your children because you did not stop your
evil ways ... I killed your young men in their prime and made their mothers suffer ... The
mother who lost her seven children has fainted, gasping for breath. Her daylight has turned to
darkness; she is disgraced and sick at heart' (Jeremiah 15:7-9).

God speaking: 'Moab has been destroyed; listen to the children crying. Hear the sound of their
sobs ... the cries of distress' (Jeremiah 48:4-5).

'Look, O LORD! Look at those you are torturing! Women are eating the bodies of the children they
loved! ... Young and old alike lie dead in the streets ... You slaughtered them without mercy on
the day of your anger' (Lamentations 2:20-21).

God speaking: 'parents in Jerusalem will eat their children, and children will eat their
parents' (Ezekiel 5:10).

God speaking: 'I will send hunger and wild animals to kill your children, and will send
sickness, violence, and war to kill you. I, the LORD, have spoken' (Ezekiel 5:17).

God speaking: 'They are going to die in war, by famine, and by disease. Those far away will fall
ill and die; those near by will be killed in war; those who survive will starve to death'
(Ezekiel 6:12).

God speaking: 'Spare no one; have mercy on no one. Kill the old men, young men, young women,
mothers, and children ... Defile the Temple. Fill its courtyards with corpses. Get to work!'
(Ezekiel 9:5-7).

God speaking: 'Samaria must be punished for rebelling against me. Her people will die in war;
babies will be dashed to the ground, and pregnant women will be ripped open' (Hosea 13:16).

God's punishments against other nations:

'The LORD is angry with all the nations and their armies. He has condemned them to destruction.
Their corpses will not be buried, but will lie there rotting and stinking; and the mountains
will be red with blood' (Isaiah 34:2-3).

'The LORD Almighty says that disaster is coming on one nation after another, and a great storm
is gathering at the far ends of the earth. On that day the bodies of those whom the LORD has
killed will lie scattered from one end of the earth to the other. No one will mourn for them,
and they will not be taken away and buried. They will lie on the ground like piles of manure'
(Jeremiah 25:32-33).

Note: All biblical quotes are taken from the 'Good News' version of the Bible, which comes with
illustrations, and is a popular gift, especially for children.
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Wonder if there are protests planned against football games, concerts, etc. This is much more expensive than the Pope visit.
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Crime and punishment:

God speaking: 'If a man takes a stick and beats his slave, whether male or female, and the slave
dies on the spot, the man is to be punished. But if the slave does not die for a day or two, the
master is not to be punished. The loss of his property is punishment enough' (Exodus 21:20-21).

God speaking: 'If a man commits adultery with the wife of a fellow-Israelite, both he and the
woman shall be put to death' (Leviticus 20:10).

God speaking: 'If a man has sexual relations with another man, they have done a disgusting
thing, and both shall be put to death. They are responsible for their own death' (Leviticus
20:13).

God speaking: 'If a man marries a woman and her mother, all three shall be burnt to death
because of the disgraceful thing they have done' (Leviticus 20:14).

On a man who cursed God during a quarrel: 'The LORD said to Moses, "Take that man out of the
camp. Everyone who heard him curse shall put his hands on the man's head to testify that he is
guilty, and then the whole community shall stone him to death. Then tell the people of Israel
that anyone who curses God must suffer the consequences and be put to death. Any Israelite or
any foreigner living in Israel who curses the LORD shall be stoned to death by the whole
community"' (Leviticus 24:13-26).

'Once, while the Israelites were still in the wilderness, a man was found gathering firewood on
the Sabbath. He was taken to Moses, Aaron, and whole community, and was put under guard, because
it was not clear what should be done with him. Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must be put
to death; the whole community is to stone him to death outside the camp." So the whole community
took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD had commanded' (Numbers
15:32-36).

God speaking: 'Suppose a man has a son who is stubborn and rebellious, a son who will not obey
his parents, even though they punish him ... Then the men of the city are to stone him to death,
and so you will get rid of this evil' (Deuteronomy 21:18-21).

God speaking: 'But if the charge is true and there is no proof that the girl was a virgin, then
they are to take her out to the entrance of her father's house, where the men of her city are to
stone her to death. She has done a shameful thing among our people by having intercourse before
she was married, and while she was still living in her father's house. In this way you will get
rid of this evil' (Deuteronomy 22:20-21).

God speaking: 'Suppose a man is caught raping a girl who is not engaged. He is to pay the girl's
father the bride price of fifty pieces of silver, and she is to become his wife, because he
forced her to have intercourse with him' (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).

God speaking: 'If two men are having a fight and the wife of one tries to help her husband by
grabbing hold of the other man's genitals, show her no mercy; cut off her hand' (Deuteronomy
25:11-12).

Religious intolerance:

God speaking: 'Do not make any treaties with the people of the country into which you are going
... Instead, tear down their altars, destroy their sacred pillars, and cut down the symbols of
their goddess Asherah' (Exodus 34:12-13).

God speaking: 'In the land that you are taking, destroy all the places where the people worship
their gods on high mountains, on hills, and under green trees. Tear down their altars and smash
their sacred stone pillars to pieces. Burn their symbols of the goddess Asherah and chop down
their idols, so that they will never again be worshipped at those places' (Deuteronomy 12:2-3).

Death for apostasy:

God speaking: 'Even your brother or your son or your daughter or the wife you love or your
closest friend may secretly encourage you to worship other gods, gods that you and your
ancestors have never worshipped. One of them may encourage you to worship the gods of the people
who live near you or the gods of those who live far away. But do not let him persuade you; do
not even listen to him. Show him no mercy or pity, and do not protect him. Kill him! Be the
first to stone him, and then let everyone else stone him too. Stone him to death!' (Deuteronomy
13:6-10).

God speaking: 'When you are living in the towns that the LORD your God gives you, you may hear
that some worthless men of your nation have misled the people of their town to worship gods that
you have never worshipped before. If you hear such a rumour, investigate it thoroughly; and if
it is true that this evil thing did happen, then kill all the people in that town and all their
cattle too. Destroy that town completely. Bring together all the possessions of the people who
live there and pile them up in the town square. Then burn the town and everything in it as an
offering to the LORD your God. It must be left in ruins for ever and never again be rebuilt'
(Deuteronomy 13:12-16).

God speaking: 'Suppose you hear that in one of your towns some man or woman has sinned against
the LORD and broken his covenant by worshipping and serving other gods or the sun or the moon or
the stars, contrary to the LORD's command ... If it is true that this evil thing has happened in
Israel, then take that person outside the town and stone him to death' (Deuteronomy 17:2-5).

War crimes and genocide:

On the towns of King Sihon of Heshbon: '[W]e captured and destroyed every town, and put everyone
to death, men, women, and children. We took the cattle and plundered the towns' (Deuteronomy
2:34-35).

On the towns of King Og of Bashan: 'We destroyed all the towns and put to death all the men,
women, and children, just as we did in the towns that belonged to King Sihon of Heshbon. We took
the cattle and plundered the towns' (Deuteronomy 3:6-7).

God speaking: 'When you go to attack a city, first give its people a chance to surrender. If
they open the gates and surrender, they are all to become your slaves and do forced labour for
you. But if the people in that city will not surrender, but choose to fight, surround it with
your army. Then, when the LORD your God lets you capture the city, kill every man in it. You
may, however, take for yourselves the women, the children, the livestock, and everything else in
the city. You may use everything that belongs to your enemies. The LORD has given it to you.
That is how you are to deal with those cities that are far away from the land you will settle
in. But when you capture cities in the land that the LORD your God is giving you, kill everyone.
Completely destroy all the people: the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites,
the Hivites, and the Jebusites, as the LORD ordered you to do' (Deuteronomy 20:10-17).

God speaking: 'When the LORD you God gives you victory in battle and you take prisoners, you may
see among them a beautiful woman that you like and want to marry. Take her to your home ...
Later, if you no longer want her, you are to let her go free. Since you forced her to have
intercourse with you, you cannot treat her as a slave and sell her' (Deuteronomy 21:10-14).

On the city of Jericho: 'With their swords they killed everyone in the city, men and women,
young and old. They also killed the cattle, sheep, and donkeys' (Joshua 6:21).

'Then they set fire to the city and burnt it to the ground, along with everything in it, except
the things made of gold, silver, bronze, and iron, which they took and put in the LORD's
treasury' (Joshua 6:24).

On the city of Ai: 'The Israelites killed every one of the enemy in the barren country where
they had chased them. They then went back to Ai and killed everyone there. Joshua kept his spear
pointed at Ai and did not put it down until every person there had been killed. The whole
population of Ai was killed that day - twelve thousand men and women. The Israelites kept for
themselves the cattle and goods captured in the city, as the LORD had told Joshua. Joshua burnt
Ai and left it in ruins. It is still like that today. He hanged the king of Ai from a tree and
left his body there until evening. At sunset Joshua gave orders for the body to be removed, and
it was thrown down at the entrance to the city gate. They covered it with a huge pile of stones,
which is still there today' (Joshua 8:24-29).

'Joshua ordered the people of Gibeon to be brought to him, and he asked them, "Why did you
deceive us and tell us that you were from far away, when you live right here? Because you did
this, God has condemned you. Your people will always be slaves, cutting wood and carrying water
for the sanctuary of my God"' (Joshua 9:22-23).

Joshua attacked the cities of Makkedah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir, and surrounding
towns (Joshua 10:28-39). In each case, 'He spared no one; everyone was put to death. This was
what the LORD God of Israel had commanded' (Joshua 10:40). 'Joshua conquered all these kings and
their territory in one campaign because the LORD, Israel's God, was fighting for Israel' (Joshua
10:42).

'But they did not drive out the Canaanites who lived in Gezer, so the Canaanites have lived
among the Ephraimites to this day, but they have been forced to work as slaves' (Joshua 16:10).

'The Israelites had the army trapped, and without stopping they pursued them as far as a point
East of Gibeah, killing them as they went. Eighteen thousand of the best Benjaminite soldiers
were killed. The others turned and ran towards the open country to the Rock of Rimmon. Five
thousand of them were killed along the road. The Israelites continued to pursue the rest to
Gidom, killing two thousand. In all, twenty-five thousand Benjaminites were killed that day -
all of them brave soldiers. But six hundred men were able to escape to the open country to the
Rock of Rimmon, and they stayed there four months. The Israelites turned back against the rest
of the Benjaminites and killed them all - men, women, and children, and animals as well. They
burnt every town in the area' (Judges 20:43-46).

'So the assembly sent twelve thousand of their bravest men with the orders, "Go and kill
everyone in Jabesh, including the women and children. Kill all the males, and also any woman who
is not a virgin"' (Judges 21:10-11).

'Babylon, you will be destroyed. Happy is the man who pays you back for what you have done to us
- who takes your babies and smashes them against a rock' (Psalm 137:8-9).

God's punishments against his own people, the Israelites:

'Moses saw that Aaron had let the people get out of control and make fools of themselves in
front of their enemies. So he stood at the gate of the camp and shouted, "Everyone who is on the
LORD's side come over here!" So all the Levites gathered round him, and he said to them, "The
LORD God of Israel commands every one of you to put on his sword and go through the camp from
this gate to the other and kill his brothers, his friends, and his neighbours." The Levites
obeyed, and killed about three thousand men that day. Moses said to the Levites, "Today you have
consecrated yourselves as priests in the service of the LORD by killing your sons and brothers,
so the LORD has given you his blessing' (Exodus 32:25-29).

'Because the LORD Almighty is angry, his punishment burns like a fire throughout the land and
destroys the people ... Everywhere in the country people snatch and eat any bit of food they can
find, but their hunger is never satisfied. They even eat their own children!' (Isaiah 9:19-20).

Isaiah reporting God's message: 'Anyone who is caught will be stabbed to death. While they look
on helplessly, their babies will be battered to death, their houses will be looted, and their
wives will be raped. The LORD says, "I am stirring up the Medes to attack Babylon ... With their
bows and arrows they will kill the young men. They will show no mercy to babies and take no pity
on children"' (Isaiah 13:15-18).

God speaking: 'I destroyed you, my people, I killed your children because you did not stop your
evil ways ... I killed your young men in their prime and made their mothers suffer ... The
mother who lost her seven children has fainted, gasping for breath. Her daylight has turned to
darkness; she is disgraced and sick at heart' (Jeremiah 15:7-9).

God speaking: 'Moab has been destroyed; listen to the children crying. Hear the sound of their
sobs ... the cries of distress' (Jeremiah 48:4-5).

'Look, O LORD! Look at those you are torturing! Women are eating the bodies of the children they
loved! ... Young and old alike lie dead in the streets ... You slaughtered them without mercy on
the day of your anger' (Lamentations 2:20-21).

God speaking: 'parents in Jerusalem will eat their children, and children will eat their
parents' (Ezekiel 5:10).

God speaking: 'I will send hunger and wild animals to kill your children, and will send
sickness, violence, and war to kill you. I, the LORD, have spoken' (Ezekiel 5:17).

God speaking: 'They are going to die in war, by famine, and by disease. Those far away will fall
ill and die; those near by will be killed in war; those who survive will starve to death'
(Ezekiel 6:12).

God speaking: 'Spare no one; have mercy on no one. Kill the old men, young men, young women,
mothers, and children ... Defile the Temple. Fill its courtyards with corpses. Get to work!'
(Ezekiel 9:5-7).

God speaking: 'Samaria must be punished for rebelling against me. Her people will die in war;
babies will be dashed to the ground, and pregnant women will be ripped open' (Hosea 13:16).

God's punishments against other nations:

'The LORD is angry with all the nations and their armies. He has condemned them to destruction.
Their corpses will not be buried, but will lie there rotting and stinking; and the mountains
will be red with blood' (Isaiah 34:2-3).

'The LORD Almighty says that disaster is coming on one nation after another, and a great storm
is gathering at the far ends of the earth. On that day the bodies of those whom the LORD has
killed will lie scattered from one end of the earth to the other. No one will mourn for them,
and they will not be taken away and buried. They will lie on the ground like piles of manure'
(Jeremiah 25:32-33).

Note: All biblical quotes are taken from the 'Good News' version of the Bible, which comes with
illustrations, and is a popular gift, especially for children.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510221

more trash you write less we read.
Anonymous Coward
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The SLAVES wake up!

No one is above the Law of Sovereignity, which means
that all people are entitled to fysical and psychologic integrity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510943


Is looking that way.
 Quoting: oRbZ


why they hate pope?why dont they stasrt their own version of christianity like english?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1480651


They dont hate him (I think)they are demonstrating about how much it is costing their country for him to visit, why does he not pay for himself the church has enough money.
 Quoting: oRbZ


what church does with the ill gotten wealth stored in its vault?
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If you watch the spanish police here they do not use the batton on the upper body, only the hand (or fist) can be used on the upper body.

Many of the baton hits are wrist swings rather than full on arm and body swings.

This was a soft response when compared to US and UK, nobody got seriously hurt.
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mira, they are anti-Catholics first
and concerned bout money second

Spain wastes tons of public money, at least this is for
something positive

Most of the money is for the police, overtime y cleaning
if wasn´t for the police it would be nada cost

Why IS MEDIA ONLY FOCUSING ON NEGATIVO?

WHY IS MEDIA ONLY FOCUSING ON THE BAD, AND NOT THE POSITIVE, THE HAPINESS OF YOUTHS Y IGLESIA?

PORQUE MEDIA IS USING YOU....MANIUPULACION
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510745


exacto

1 million youths en peace y love

vs-

40 people protesting

media focuses on protesting

en Estados they beat and shoot protestor here they are not
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The SLAVES wake up!

No one is above the Law of Sovereignity, which means
that all people are entitled to fysical and psychologic integrity.
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Wonder if there are protests planned against football games, concerts, etc. This is much more expensive than the Pope visit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1291594


$73 million.

Tell me what football game costs that much.
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mira, they are anti-Catholics first
and concerned bout money second

Spain wastes tons of public money, at least this is for
something positive

Most of the money is for the police, overtime y cleaning
if wasn´t for the police it would be nada cost

Why IS MEDIA ONLY FOCUSING ON NEGATIVO?

WHY IS MEDIA ONLY FOCUSING ON THE BAD, AND NOT THE POSITIVE, THE HAPINESS OF YOUTHS Y IGLESIA?

PORQUE MEDIA IS USING YOU....MANIUPULACION
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Tell me what is positive about a man who has in the past covered up pedophilia and is using up a vast amount of a country's money on a visit he could pay for himself?
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mira, they are anti-Catholics first
and concerned bout money second

Spain wastes tons of public money, at least this is for
something positive

Most of the money is for the police, overtime y cleaning
if wasn´t for the police it would be nada cost

Why IS MEDIA ONLY FOCUSING ON NEGATIVO?

WHY IS MEDIA ONLY FOCUSING ON THE BAD, AND NOT THE POSITIVE, THE HAPINESS OF YOUTHS Y IGLESIA?

PORQUE MEDIA IS USING YOU....MANIUPULACION
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510745


exacto

1 million youths en peace y love

vs-

40 people protesting

media focuses on protesting

en Estados they beat and shoot protestor here they are not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510745


More than 40 you did not even look at the clips otherwise you would not of said that or if you did watch you are lying.
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...


Is looking that way.
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why they hate pope?why dont they stasrt their own version of christianity like english?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1480651


They dont hate him (I think)they are demonstrating about how much it is costing their country for him to visit, why does he not pay for himself the church has enough money.
 Quoting: oRbZ


what church does with the ill gotten wealth stored in its vault?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1480651


I would like to know that too.
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mira, they are anti-Catholics first
and concerned bout money second

Spain wastes tons of public money, at least this is for
something positive

Most of the money is for the police, overtime y cleaning
if wasn´t for the police it would be nada cost

Why IS MEDIA ONLY FOCUSING ON NEGATIVO?

WHY IS MEDIA ONLY FOCUSING ON THE BAD, AND NOT THE POSITIVE, THE HAPINESS OF YOUTHS Y IGLESIA?

PORQUE MEDIA IS USING YOU....MANIUPULACION
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510745


exacto

1 million youths en peace y love

vs-

40 people protesting

media focuses on protesting

en Estados they beat and shoot protestor here they are not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510745


More than 40 you did not even look at the clips otherwise you would not of said that or if you did watch you are lying.
 Quoting: oRbZ




see upside crosses
see woman dressed as pope
see maricon s protesting
see hatred de Iglesia
see mockery de Iglesia
see satanists

see peeple hating Iglesia not porque dinero

see 40 people contra policia


who u work for?Idol1
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If you watch the spanish police here they do not use the batton on the upper body, only the hand (or fist) can be used on the upper body.

Many of the baton hits are wrist swings rather than full on arm and body swings.

This was a soft response when compared to US and UK, nobody got seriously hurt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1496989


So it is OK to beat someone because they do not agree with your way of thinking?

Go back to the middle ages with that kind of attitude, it is not OK to beat people who are just trying to walk past the police.


I keep seeing this again and again every time someone somewhere on the planet protests against something they are beat by the police and then called rioters, the police no longer work for the people but for the state of whatever country they are in, not just you Spanish getting beat for voicing your opinion it is rife all over the planet.
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mira, they are anti-Catholics first
and concerned bout money second

Spain wastes tons of public money, at least this is for
something positive

Most of the money is for the police, overtime y cleaning
if wasn´t for the police it would be nada cost

Why IS MEDIA ONLY FOCUSING ON NEGATIVO?

WHY IS MEDIA ONLY FOCUSING ON THE BAD, AND NOT THE POSITIVE, THE HAPINESS OF YOUTHS Y IGLESIA?

PORQUE MEDIA IS USING YOU....MANIUPULACION
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510745


exacto

1 million youths en peace y love

vs-

40 people protesting

media focuses on protesting

en Estados they beat and shoot protestor here they are not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510745


More than 40 you did not even look at the clips otherwise you would not of said that or if you did watch you are lying.
 Quoting: oRbZ




see upside crosses
see woman dressed as pope
see maricon s protesting
see hatred de Iglesia
see mockery de Iglesia
see satanists

see peeple hating Iglesia not porque dinero

see 40 people contra policia


who u work for?Idol1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510745


The question is who do you work for?

I am someone who is seeing people getting beat by the police because they do not agree with something
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However government spokesman Jose Blanco, claims that the 1.5 million pilgrims expected to come for the event shall generate 100 million euros for Spain’s economy.

[link to www.theolivepress.es]
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If you watch the spanish police here they do not use the batton on the upper body, only the hand (or fist) can be used on the upper body.

Many of the baton hits are wrist swings rather than full on arm and body swings.

This was a soft response when compared to US and UK, nobody got seriously hurt.
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Oh I just re-watched and saw the Spanish police hit a man on the head so stop talking shit.
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However government spokesman Jose Blanco, claims that the 1.5 million pilgrims expected to come for the event shall generate 100 million euros for Spain’s economy.

[link to www.theolivepress.es]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1511063


That is an estimate and that money generated will be used elsewhere IMHO. The money taken is from the public purse.





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