It takes 70,000 years to travel to closest star with our current technology... | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1514918 Croatia 08/22/2011 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you mean why? To explore this and other solar system and galaxy, to meet extraterrestrials and have trade/entertainment and other agreement with them, to push human race to a whole new level and upper-advance way of life on this planet. I think question is when, not why. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1001177 United States 08/22/2011 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you mean why? To explore this and other solar system and galaxy, to meet extraterrestrials and have trade/entertainment and other agreement with them, to push human race to a whole new level and upper-advance way of life on this planet. I think question is when, not why. Lol exactly, Alien visitors coming to an earth near you in 140,000 years |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1514918 Croatia 08/22/2011 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you mean why? To explore this and other solar system and galaxy, to meet extraterrestrials and have trade/entertainment and other agreement with them, to push human race to a whole new level and upper-advance way of life on this planet. I think question is when, not why. Lol exactly, Alien visitors coming to an earth near you in 140,000 years Hahahaha, that was funny. Maybe sooner. |
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Vlad Tepes User ID: 1468692 Romania 08/22/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you mean why? To explore this and other solar system and galaxy, to meet extraterrestrials and have trade/entertainment and other agreement with them, to push human race to a whole new level and upper-advance way of life on this planet. I think question is when, not why. You've watched too much Star Trek friend. Sol Dominvs Imperi Romani Imperium Romanum Sacrum In Varietate Concordia |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1514918 Croatia 08/22/2011 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you mean why? To explore this and other solar system and galaxy, to meet extraterrestrials and have trade/entertainment and other agreement with them, to push human race to a whole new level and upper-advance way of life on this planet. I think question is when, not why. You've watched too much Star Trek friend. Maybe I did. But I am inspired to Space Travel, for the very long part of my life. :) |
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Vlad Tepes User ID: 1468692 Romania 08/22/2011 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you mean why? To explore this and other solar system and galaxy, to meet extraterrestrials and have trade/entertainment and other agreement with them, to push human race to a whole new level and upper-advance way of life on this planet. I think question is when, not why. You've watched too much Star Trek friend. Maybe I did. But I am inspired to Space Travel, for the very long part of my life. :) Space travel yes. In our Solar System. But interstellar travel? No way man. Human civilization won't last long enough to achieve that. Sol Dominvs Imperi Romani Imperium Romanum Sacrum In Varietate Concordia |
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Porkshire User ID: 1515338 United States 08/22/2011 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It takes 70,000 years to travel to closest star with our current admitted technology.. Quoting: wisc_natureboy fixed it for ya. ;-`) According to article published in May 2010 issue of the Mufon UFO Journal - Ben Rich, the “Father of the Stealth Fighter-Bomber” and former head of Lockheed Skunk Works,had once let out information about Extraterrestrial UFO Visitors Are Real And U.S. Military Travel To Stars . [link to www.ufo-blogger.com] |
Hardtrocity User ID: 1514918 Croatia 08/22/2011 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1514918 How do you mean why? To explore this and other solar system and galaxy, to meet extraterrestrials and have trade/entertainment and other agreement with them, to push human race to a whole new level and upper-advance way of life on this planet. I think question is when, not why. You've watched too much Star Trek friend. Maybe I did. But I am inspired to Space Travel, for the very long part of my life. :) Space travel yes. In our Solar System. But interstellar travel? No way man. Human civilization won't last long enough to achieve that. Yeah, probably a long time will have to pass before real interstellar travel. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 554016 United States 08/22/2011 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you're just jumping through hyperspace to get there, and more importantly back, then you aren't going into space. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509740 So put away your silly notions about ion engines and that garbage. There would be no benefits or gains by going into space if people wouldn't be able to come back for 1,000/100/10 years. There would be no return on the investment. I read that they can transport electrons across a room. This will lead to an instant communication device across any disstance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1366745 United Kingdom 08/22/2011 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if the universe is expanding its probably being crushed like a balloon or bubble by mass of other universes around it. So distance maybe being bought to us or being pulled away. Its probably being pulled away and thats why time and shit dies. But even if we reached the outskirts of the universe or any obstruction we probably would get stuck and loose time. We cant walk out of a room without a door because we are boxed in. Forwards up and down. So how do we escape a room with no door? I have no idea what im talking about. No i do as it goes. U change the shape of the room. So is the muferfukin universe growing in all directions or is mass around it changing its shape. The key then to the muferfukin lock would be to know which way its expanding. But we need to know what way it would expand in all directions in advance and fit into the slot always. Lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1366745 United Kingdom 08/22/2011 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | u now have the blueprint of sacred information of everything you need to know about movement. This was passed down by my uncle who was in the military police as a dog trainer in the royal air force who was looking over the shoulder of somebody on their laptop |
OnceWasBlind User ID: 1484607 United States 08/22/2011 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And it is impossible for us to reach any other galaxy outside the milkyway. No matter how fast we move, the universe is expanding at the speed of light. even if we were to move at the speed of light we would only keep up with the other galaxies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155690 We will need to either find a way to move faster then the speed of light, or develop a warp drive. In which we bend space. There is no limt at the speed in which you may bend space. However, we require negative energy to do such things. Which we aren't 100% sure it exists. it is impossible for MAN on earth to leave this solar system at this point. It has a fence around it. electromagnetic type fence labeled the heliosphere by scientists. advanced peoples and those in "Heaven" have vehicles which move well faster than light, and they can and do journey to the known edges of the creation, and there are vehicles owned by "HEAVEN" that travel well beyond the current construction thru the dark bodies that separate the different levels and parts. thanks for clearing that up for me |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 967845 Germany 08/22/2011 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The crazy thing about that to me is that our technology is advancing at a rate where if you were to take off on this long journey, we will have invented a faster way to travel through space and pass you up within 10 years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1515104 How would you and your crew make it safely past the Van Allen radiation belt? In the future astronauts will wear an Anti Van Halen Radiation Belt. |
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Burt Gummer User ID: 1513857 United States 08/22/2011 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It takes 70,000 years to travel to closest star with our current technology... Quoting: Mustis [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Not true....just ask this guy. |
Anubis User ID: 1446746 Canada 08/22/2011 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Voyager 1 is NOT current technology. Quoting: Dr. House We have ion drive now, and the ability to scoop matter from interstellar space. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Using an Ion drive coupled with a fusion reactor, means one can see at least 30 years of continued acceleration. Even if you have an acceleration of only 0.05 meters per second, over 15 years (473040000 seconds) your final velocity is 23,652,000 meter/second. The speed of light is 299,792,458 m/s You are traveling at about 8% the speed of light. Granted that isn't very fast, but in order to travel 4 light years it would only take 50 to 100 years. It is feasible to construct a ship that can accelerate at 0.3 gee (3.33 m/s) using current ion engine technologies coupled with tapping the thermal differential of natural space. Boosting constantly for only 2 years (63072000 seconds) Means you would achieve a velocity of 210,029,760 m/s That is 70.0583% the speed of light. Assuming for the moment that relativity does not play a roll in the matter, it would take rough a decade (10 years) of accelerations, coasting at top speed and deceleration to reach the nearest star. NASA and JPL and the rest make it much harder than it needs to be. Even Einstein made a minor mistake that every one else follows through. Einstein tells us that near light speed is not possible because mass (of the craft) becomes greater due to speed. however E=mc^2 (Energy = mass times the speed of light squared) gives us more energy from a mass of matter traveling at greater velocities - why? because the fuel attains a higher mass as well as the craft. Relative to each other, the mass of the craft to the fuel remains the same. Relative to the rest of the universe the mass of the craft and the fuel increases. The fuel gives out more energy relative to the universe due to its greater velocity. We cannot accept that mass increases as we travel at relativistic velocities without accepting that the energy strips from that more massive matter also increases due to more mass. Give me 1.3 billion dollars and a work force and I can build an unmanned vessel that can reach any of the stars found on this map: [link to www.atlasoftheuniverse.com] within 12.5 light years in 25 years from the start of the journey. Give me 13 billion and it can be a manned mission. I can get a man to any of those stellar systems and back with in his lifetime tapping into relativity. BTW I laid out thermodynamic energy available in the solar system along with how to scoop up hydrogen as a fuel for your ion drive here: Thread: Nuclear Space Rockets and the Most Fascinating NASA Man You’ve Never Heard Of well done. +1 for you |
Burt Gummer User ID: 1513857 United States 08/22/2011 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Voyager 1 is NOT current technology. Quoting: Dr. House We have ion drive now, and the ability to scoop matter from interstellar space. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Using an Ion drive coupled with a fusion reactor, means one can see at least 30 years of continued acceleration. Even if you have an acceleration of only 0.05 meters per second, over 15 years (473040000 seconds) your final velocity is 23,652,000 meter/second. The speed of light is 299,792,458 m/s You are traveling at about 8% the speed of light. Granted that isn't very fast, but in order to travel 4 light years it would only take 50 to 100 years. It is feasible to construct a ship that can accelerate at 0.3 gee (3.33 m/s) using current ion engine technologies coupled with tapping the thermal differential of natural space. Boosting constantly for only 2 years (63072000 seconds) Means you would achieve a velocity of 210,029,760 m/s That is 70.0583% the speed of light. Assuming for the moment that relativity does not play a roll in the matter, it would take rough a decade (10 years) of accelerations, coasting at top speed and deceleration to reach the nearest star. NASA and JPL and the rest make it much harder than it needs to be. Even Einstein made a minor mistake that every one else follows through. Einstein tells us that near light speed is not possible because mass (of the craft) becomes greater due to speed. however E=mc^2 (Energy = mass times the speed of light squared) gives us more energy from a mass of matter traveling at greater velocities - why? because the fuel attains a higher mass as well as the craft. Relative to each other, the mass of the craft to the fuel remains the same. Relative to the rest of the universe the mass of the craft and the fuel increases. The fuel gives out more energy relative to the universe due to its greater velocity. We cannot accept that mass increases as we travel at relativistic velocities without accepting that the energy strips from that more massive matter also increases due to more mass. Give me 1.3 billion dollars and a work force and I can build an unmanned vessel that can reach any of the stars found on this map: [link to www.atlasoftheuniverse.com] within 12.5 light years in 25 years from the start of the journey. Give me 13 billion and it can be a manned mission. I can get a man to any of those stellar systems and back with in his lifetime tapping into relativity. BTW I laid out thermodynamic energy available in the solar system along with how to scoop up hydrogen as a fuel for your ion drive here: Thread: Nuclear Space Rockets and the Most Fascinating NASA Man You’ve Never Heard Of well done. +1 for you One thing the poster neglected to mention in the calculations.... Using the SUN and Saturn with their massive gravity are also very useful for spacecraft acceleration. The slingshot effect works well. Gravity assist [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1384172 Poland 08/22/2011 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So it makes perfect sense to wait until some better drives are developed. Take a look at this table, if you like 'warp drives' idea: [link to i.imgur.com] |