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6.0 QUAKE HITS DC/NYC/VA on near PERFECT ALIGNMENT OF EARTH SUN AND VENUS!! More PROOF ALIGNMENTS CAUSE LARGE QUAKES! another ELENIN warning!!

 
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Re: 6.0 QUAKE HITS DC/NYC/VA on near PERFECT ALIGNMENT OF EARTH SUN AND VENUS!! More PROOF ALIGNMENTS CAUSE LARGE QUAKES! another ELENIN warning!!
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
there looks to have been an alginment sept 25th 1811
the large quake happened dec 16th, but this event lasted for over 1 year. the records are not very good leading up to the main event. even then they are not so scienitic.
this was 1811. I have wondered about this before too. there is no way to know if the event was started by the great comet.
look at the orbit. just me but, i thnk it would be a large leap to connect this comet.
any other research?
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On Sept 25, 1811 the great comet of 1811 was over 91 million miles above the plane of the ecliptic, so there really wasn't an alignment with anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


AND WHAT MAJOR SEISMIC EVENT HAPPENED ON THAT DATE??

NONE did.

WHY?

BECAUSE COMETARY alignments are in general, NOT the cause of LARGE QUAKES.... bodies with LARGE MASS such as PLANETS, ARE.

hence this triple helix P.A.T

FACTS/faqs
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Re: 6.0 QUAKE HITS DC/NYC/VA on near PERFECT ALIGNMENT OF EARTH SUN AND VENUS!! More PROOF ALIGNMENTS CAUSE LARGE QUAKES! another ELENIN warning!!
NOT TRUE and nothing but speculation... compelling evidence both scientific and unconventional exists which shows your CLAIM is not based on an ABSOLUTE. I can provide evidence such as gravitational lensing, the INFRARED aspect, naza's lies and contradictions, EU theorems, Dr Mensur's data, or USGS quake data records FOR STARTERS.

It is not speculation at all. All objects in the solar system are seen by reflected light. It is simple laws of physics that say an object near the Sun will reflect light
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


the assertion "ALL OBJECTS in the solar system ARE seen by reflected light" is based on current known scientific evidence and models and theories. The FACT that SCIENTISTS have had to CHANGE and REVISE THEORIES and EVIDENCE as NEW DATA AND DISCOVERIES ARE MADE, is why the term "ALL" in that context, doesn't allow for the UNKNOWN or the NEW THEORIES AND EVIDENCE that are CHALLENGING the current LAWS OF PHYSICS that have so far NOT BEEN PROVEN WRONG.

Since you actually don't present any evidence your statement is useless
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


Except the EVIDENCE for my ARGUMENT is THE FACT ALL MAJOR QUAKES IN THE PAST 30 DAYS have ALL HIT ON the EXACT DATES and windows OF MY LARGE QUAKE WARNING predictions.

Its IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE and something ANYONE can verify.

Since you've shown no counter-argument or context and evidence for your argument or how and where exactly mine is wrong, YOUR STATEMENT IS WORTHLESS.

quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
and besides the FACT your claim cannot be conclusively PROVEN anyways, again, I've just demonstrated along with Dr. Mensurs and the EU theorists with undeniable EVIDENCE based on an irrefutable PATTERN, that ELENIN AND PLANETARY ALIGNMENTS CAUSE LARGE QUAKES which could only produce this type of PATTERN if ELENIN or something NEAR its same path, has LARGE MASS. and those blaming it on TESLA/Haarp, don't understand the issue or all the evidence that contradicts that technology being able to produce what the evidence shows that began before the technology existed.

No content, just rants
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


I can point to over 50 links and hundreds of pages of evidence for my argument like this one for example...

Thread: EARTHQUAKE HITS: Magnitude 4.4 - WESTERN TEXAS (Page 6)

so far you nor anyone has presented any intelligent counter-argument showing how my evidence is NOT evidence or where and how exactly its wrong.

in other words, you have nothing of substance to present and your claims that my argument is a rant, is nothing but an OPINION based on ZERO evidence.

quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
instead of showing exactly how and where the evidence and argument i've presented is wrong, you ignore doing so and make ignorant claims and remarks based upon models of out-dated science that this NEW EVIDENCE CONTRADICTS, challenges and puts into question.

I did show where it is wrong. Any object would be visible by reflected light.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


And i've just shown why that assertion is FALSE and PROVES or DISPROVES NOTHING in the context of my argument which you've completely failed to address or refute in any context or counter-argument whatsoever.

so your Opinion is once again a FAIL.

quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
So if Elenin is just a comet, Explain how EVERY TIME ELENIN is in an ALIGNMENT phase, the most powerful quakes occur EVERY SINGLE TIME.

THe most powerful earthquake recorded was in 1962. Where was Elenin?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


A) thats a LIE because the most powerful quake DID NOT occur in 1962 which alone and again SHOWS your incredible ignorance and fact your OPINION is worthless in JUDGING anything on this subject.
B) WHICH QUAKE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ANYWAY? you give no details.
C) HOW MUCH WOULD YOU LIKE TO BET THERE not only WAS AN ELENIN ALIGNMENT in 1962 that will correlate to A LARGE QUAKE Minimum 5.8+ but most likely a 6.5+ to 7.0+, but any MAJOR QUAKES in 1962 above 5.8 there is an Alignment that proves my TRIPLE HELIX P.A.T.

Now what were you saying??

anyone else want to wager a bet i can not only PROVE this persons statements and claims above are FALSE, but i can show that there was in fact an ELENIN alignment ON or around a MAJOR QUAKE just as i've explained above.

quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
the FACT is, YOU nor ANYONE can explain using CONVENTIONAL SCIENCE because this phenomenon hasn't been analyzed or even officially considered YET since current technology, science and methods, cannot or are not advanced enough to measure UNIVERSAL mechanics... or at least thats what the reptilian illuminati cult NAZA wants its enslaved herd of ignorant zombies to believe. So which side are you on? the dumbed down sheep or a naza shill?

Proof you have no evidence to support your claim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


except the facts and evidence PROVE OTHERWISE.

And now the name calling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


And now you're LYING. NO WHERE have I directly NAMED CALLED anyone other than a GENERAL remark about those who FOLLOW BLINDLY systems and leaders who to anyone that has critical thinking skills, is pushing an agenda of pure EVIL thats led to the enslavement of most humans for millennia just as i've said, which is not an opinion, its TRUE.

But If the SHOE FITS... You're an ignorant and arrogant fool criticizing things you know nothing about and haven't bothered to research let alone on just the BASICS, with a disrespectful tone.

MY REPLIES REFLECT whatever TONE you project.

Fact: I made no personal attacks, untrue criticism or any judgements of you personally.

quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
let me and everyone know when you have better EVIDENCE for your argument and evidence against MINE.

You are jsut a fear monger.
I will go farther than that. You are trying to terroize people with this inane theory that has no scientific backing. Correlation is not causation. There are many more earthquakes that occur without alignments then you can claim. A handful is not statitically significant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


You call it fear, because you HATE THE MESSAGE that i've explained is VALIDATED and WILL HELP MANY PREPARE which in turn could help many SURVIVE and due to the EVIDENCE, there is a CREDIBLE THREAT that needs to be given and pointed out.

The true EVIL, is coming from morons like you that attack the messengers because you FEAR and hate the message and try to HIDE it or STEER many away from a warning that could potentially help save lives.

This is the SAME SCENARIO that occurred back before the JAPAN QUAKE when 9NANIA was screaming and yelling trying to WARN of a MAJOR CATASTROPHIC SEISMIC EVENT TO OCCUR ON or around 3/11/11.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU are of the SAME ILK as DAVID MORISSON who RIDICULED that warning and SAID PAY NO ATTENTION NOTHING WILL HAPPEN and those WARNING of something, ARE FEAR MONGERING!

How STUPID do you Fools look now?

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Re: 6.0 QUAKE HITS DC/NYC/VA on near PERFECT ALIGNMENT OF EARTH SUN AND VENUS!! More PROOF ALIGNMENTS CAUSE LARGE QUAKES! another ELENIN warning!!
NOT TRUE and nothing but speculation... compelling evidence both scientific and unconventional exists which shows your CLAIM is not based on an ABSOLUTE. I can provide evidence such as gravitational lensing, the INFRARED aspect, naza's lies and contradictions, EU theorems, Dr Mensur's data, or USGS quake data records FOR STARTERS.

It is not speculation at all. All objects in the solar system are seen by reflected light. It is simple laws of physics that say an object near the Sun will reflect light
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


the assertion "ALL OBJECTS in the solar system ARE seen by reflected light" is based on current known scientific evidence and models and theories. The FACT that SCIENTISTS have had to CHANGE and REVISE THEORIES and EVIDENCE as NEW DATA AND DISCOVERIES ARE MADE, is why the term "ALL" in that context, doesn't allow for the UNKNOWN or the NEW THEORIES AND EVIDENCE that are CHALLENGING the current LAWS OF PHYSICS that have so far NOT BEEN PROVEN WRONG.


 Quoting: MatrixLNIN11


That is an idiotic statement made by someone who does not understand science or the history of science. All objects in the solar system (besides the Sun) are seen by reflected light in the visible. That is a simple fact. The changes made are because the areas of investigation are reaching higher accuracy and precision. You can send a rocket to Pluto by just using Newton's laws. Albert Einstein made the statement:

Since it has often been contended by opponents of the theory of relativity that the special theory of relativity is overthrown by the general theory of relativity, it is perhaps advisable to make the facts of the case clearer by means of an appropriate comparison. Before the development of electrodynamics the laws of electrostatics were looked upon as the laws of electricity. At the present time we know that electric fields can be derived correctly from electrostatic considerations only for the case, which is never strictly realized, in which the electrical masses are quite at rest relatively to each other, and to the co-ordinate system. Should we be justified in saying that for this reason electrostatics is overthrown by the field-equations of Maxwell in electrodynamics? Not in the least. Electrostatics is contained in electrodynamics as a limiting case; the laws of the latter lead directly to those of the former for the case in which the fields are invariable with regard to time. No fairer destiny could be allotted to any physical theory, than that it should of itself point out the way to the introduction of a more comprehensive theory, in which it lives on as a limiting case.

I trust Einstein's views on changes in science much more than I trust yours.




Since you actually don't present any evidence your statement is useless
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


Except the EVIDENCE for my ARGUMENT is THE FACT ALL MAJOR QUAKES IN THE PAST 30 DAYS have ALL HIT ON the EXACT DATES and windows OF MY LARGE QUAKE WARNING predictions.

Its IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE and something ANYONE can verify.

Since you've shown no counter-argument or context and evidence for your argument or how and where exactly mine is wrong, YOUR STATEMENT IS WORTHLESS.
 Quoting: MatrixLNIN11


As I have already said. There are over 500,000 known objects in the solar system. You can find some sort of alignment for absolutley everything so your alignment theory is bogus. YOU have the burden of proof to show that aligments can cause earthquakes and provide the phsycial reasoning behind such assertions. You have not done so. Correlation does not imply causation.



quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
and besides the FACT your claim cannot be conclusively PROVEN anyways, again, I've just demonstrated along with Dr. Mensurs and the EU theorists with undeniable EVIDENCE based on an irrefutable PATTERN, that ELENIN AND PLANETARY ALIGNMENTS CAUSE LARGE QUAKES which could only produce this type of PATTERN if ELENIN or something NEAR its same path, has LARGE MASS. and those blaming it on TESLA/Haarp, don't understand the issue or all the evidence that contradicts that technology being able to produce what the evidence shows that began before the technology existed.

No content, just rants
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


I can point to over 50 links and hundreds of pages of evidence for my argument like this one for example...

Thread: EARTHQUAKE HITS: Magnitude 4.4 - WESTERN TEXAS (Page 6)

so far you nor anyone has presented any intelligent counter-argument showing how my evidence is NOT evidence or where and how exactly its wrong.

in other words, you have nothing of substance to present and your claims that my argument is a rant, is nothing but an OPINION based on ZERO evidence.

 Quoting: MatrixLNIN11


Using GLP and youtube as refrences is really no references at all. Learn how to do credible research.



quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
instead of showing exactly how and where the evidence and argument i've presented is wrong, you ignore doing so and make ignorant claims and remarks based upon models of out-dated science that this NEW EVIDENCE CONTRADICTS, challenges and puts into question.

I did show where it is wrong. Any object would be visible by reflected light.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


And i've just shown why that assertion is FALSE and PROVES or DISPROVES NOTHING in the context of my argument which you've completely failed to address or refute in any context or counter-argument whatsoever.

so your Opinion is once again a FAIL.
 Quoting: MatrixLNIN11


Childish rant

quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
So if Elenin is just a comet, Explain how EVERY TIME ELENIN is in an ALIGNMENT phase, the most powerful quakes occur EVERY SINGLE TIME.

THe most powerful earthquake recorded was in 1962. Where was Elenin?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


A) thats a LIE because the most powerful quake DID NOT occur in 1962 which alone and again SHOWS your incredible ignorance and fact your OPINION is worthless in JUDGING anything on this subject.
B) WHICH QUAKE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ANYWAY? you give no details.
C) HOW MUCH WOULD YOU LIKE TO BET THERE not only WAS AN ELENIN ALIGNMENT in 1962 that will correlate to A LARGE QUAKE Minimum 5.8+ but most likely a 6.5+ to 7.0+, but any MAJOR QUAKES in 1962 above 5.8 there is an Alignment that proves my TRIPLE HELIX P.A.T.

Now what were you saying??

anyone else want to wager a bet i can not only PROVE this persons statements and claims above are FALSE, but i can show that there was in fact an ELENIN alignment ON or around a MAJOR QUAKE just as i've explained above.

 Quoting: MatrixLNIN11


Yes that is a typo. The correct year is 1960. But the argument remains. No Elenin.

Objects in the solar system come into opposition with the Earth almost yearly. So are you saying if something comes into alignment anytime during the year you claim that as a success? Kind of riduculous. I have a birthday every year too therefore everything happens around my birthday by your reasoning.

But you do mroe then that. You draw random connect the dot patterns and claim that as a success. Silly, really as you can draw straight lines through any two objects and it doesn't take much effort to find a third close enough for you to claim success. That is the problem with your "theory". It is too broad. It explains everything and cannot be falsified. Therefore, it really isn't a theory at all.

Oh, and Elenin reached opposition on Feb 5, 1960. The largest recorded earthquake occured May 22, 1960 in Chile. Since it happened in the same year, guess you will claim that as a success.

quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
the FACT is, YOU nor ANYONE can explain using CONVENTIONAL SCIENCE because this phenomenon hasn't been analyzed or even officially considered YET since current technology, science and methods, cannot or are not advanced enough to measure UNIVERSAL mechanics... or at least thats what the reptilian illuminati cult NAZA wants its enslaved herd of ignorant zombies to believe. So which side are you on? the dumbed down sheep or a naza shill?

Proof you have no evidence to support your claim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


except the facts and evidence PROVE OTHERWISE.

And now the name calling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


And now you're LYING. NO WHERE have I directly NAMED CALLED anyone other than a GENERAL remark about those who FOLLOW BLINDLY systems and leaders who to anyone that has critical thinking skills, is pushing an agenda of pure EVIL thats led to the enslavement of most humans for millennia just as i've said, which is not an opinion, its TRUE.

But If the SHOE FITS... You're an ignorant and arrogant fool criticizing things you know nothing about and haven't bothered to research let alone on just the BASICS, with a disrespectful tone.

MY REPLIES REFLECT whatever TONE you project.

Fact: I made no personal attacks, untrue criticism or any judgements of you personally.
 Quoting: MatrixLNIN11


Right, calling people Nazis isn't name calling. What world do you live in? Grow up.

quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
let me and everyone know when you have better EVIDENCE for your argument and evidence against MINE.

You are jsut a fear monger.
I will go farther than that. You are trying to terroize people with this inane theory that has no scientific backing. Correlation is not causation. There are many more earthquakes that occur without alignments then you can claim. A handful is not statitically significant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


You call it fear, because you HATE THE MESSAGE that i've explained is VALIDATED and WILL HELP MANY PREPARE which in turn could help many SURVIVE and due to the EVIDENCE, there is a CREDIBLE THREAT that needs to be given and pointed out.

The true EVIL, is coming from morons like you that attack the messengers because you FEAR and hate the message and try to HIDE it or STEER many away from a warning that could potentially help save lives.

This is the SAME SCENARIO that occurred back before the JAPAN QUAKE when 9NANIA was screaming and yelling trying to WARN of a MAJOR CATASTROPHIC SEISMIC EVENT TO OCCUR ON or around 3/11/11.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU are of the SAME ILK as DAVID MORISSON who RIDICULED that warning and SAID PAY NO ATTENTION NOTHING WILL HAPPEN and those WARNING of something, ARE FEAR MONGERING!

How STUPID do you Fools look now?
 Quoting: MatrixLNIN11



You are still just a fear monger. You don't know anything and try to show people how great you are by crying DOOOOM.


Yes, on or around 3/11/11 something somewhere might happen. Wow, really specific there. Really believable.
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NOT TRUE and nothing but speculation... compelling evidence both scientific and unconventional exists which shows your CLAIM is not based on an ABSOLUTE. I can provide evidence such as gravitational lensing, the INFRARED aspect, naza's lies and contradictions, EU theorems, Dr Mensur's data, or USGS quake data records FOR STARTERS.

It is not speculation at all. All objects in the solar system are seen by reflected light. It is simple laws of physics that say an object near the Sun will reflect light

the assertion "ALL OBJECTS in the solar system ARE seen by reflected light" is based on current known scientific evidence and models and theories. The FACT that SCIENTISTS have had to CHANGE and REVISE THEORIES and EVIDENCE as NEW DATA AND DISCOVERIES ARE MADE, is why the term "ALL" in that context, doesn't allow for the UNKNOWN or the NEW THEORIES AND EVIDENCE that are CHALLENGING the current LAWS OF PHYSICS that have so far NOT BEEN PROVEN WRONG.

That is an idiotic statement made by someone who does not understand science or the history of science. All objects in the solar system (besides the Sun) are seen by reflected light in the visible. That is a simple fact. The changes made are because the areas of investigation are reaching higher accuracy and precision. You can send a rocket to Pluto by just using Newton's laws. Albert Einstein made the statement:

Since it has often been contended by opponents of the theory of relativity that the special theory of relativity is overthrown by the general theory of relativity, it is perhaps advisable to make the facts of the case clearer by means of an appropriate comparison. Before the development of electrodynamics the laws of electrostatics were looked upon as the laws of electricity. At the present time we know that electric fields can be derived correctly from electrostatic considerations only for the case, which is never strictly realized, in which the electrical masses are quite at rest relatively to each other, and to the co-ordinate system. Should we be justified in saying that for this reason electrostatics is overthrown by the field-equations of Maxwell in electrodynamics? Not in the least. Electrostatics is contained in electrodynamics as a limiting case; the laws of the latter lead directly to those of the former for the case in which the fields are invariable with regard to time. No fairer destiny could be allotted to any physical theory, than that it should of itself point out the way to the introduction of a more comprehensive theory, in which it lives on as a limiting case.

I trust Einstein's views on changes in science much more than I trust yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


but its not my fault you're too lazy to look up why you're wrong.

the "evidence" and response above is moronic and proves or disproves nothing.

The E.U.THEORY has already exposed major flaws in EINSTEINS "theories" and is emerging as one of the most revolutionary new theories forcing current science to confront new data that challenges OLD models and theories.

But your "argument" still hardly addresses the current data and evidence that EUT has presented let alone such things are Gravitational Lensing or the FACT that there are objects that can ONLY be seen by INFRARED and the Brown Dwarf thats less than 30 days away, is ONE OF THEM.

quote:Anonymous Coward 1525236:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODc4NjEzX0UxODFFMzNC
Since you actually don't present any evidence your statement is useless

Except the EVIDENCE for my ARGUMENT is THE FACT over 95% to as high as 99% of all MAJOR QUAKES IN THE PAST 30 DAYS have ALL HIT ON the EXACT DATES and windows OF MY LARGE QUAKE WARNING predictions.

Its IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE and something ANYONE can verify.

Since you've shown no counter-argument or context and evidence for your argument or how and where exactly mine is wrong, YOUR STATEMENT IS WORTHLESS.

So As I have already said. There are over 500,000 known objects in the solar system. You can find some sort of alignment for absolutley everything so your alignment theory is bogus.
 Quoting: MatrixLNIN11


not if a PATTERN can be shown that correlates to EVERY MAJOR quake on record.

Thats a fact that cannot be disproven by 1 million "objects" in the the solar system. So your argument is not only bogus, but its IRRELEVANT to the context of my premise or argument.

YOU have the burden of proof to show that aligments can cause earthquakes and provide the phsycial reasoning behind such assertions. You have not done so. Correlation does not imply causation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


If a continuous PATTERN has been ESTABLISHED, CORRELATION in fact DOES imply causation and THAT IS EVIDENCE of it whether you want to admit it or not or whether it needs to be proven beyond a doubt for it to be CREDIBLE.
And since most "scientists" who have the TOOLS and RESOURCES that COULD MEASURE and STUDY this theory further, either don't know about it, or haven't examined the evidence properly yet if at all, proof in that context, is impossible and irrelevant at this time.

But either way, I submit that 95% or even nearly EVERY LARGE quake if not ALL on record that can be found and accurately measured, correlate to the type of ALIGNMENT phases/cycles I've posited,,, and just the predictions I've posted so far, is evidence that supports the hypothesis with an almost 95 to 99% accuracy. YOU PROVE what i've presented is FALSE and has no evidence to support it. So far the evidence does SUPPORT it and has yet to be disproven let alone just in the quake predictions i've posted.

Now if you claim its not evidence, then why haven't you presented any counter-argument showing exactly how and where what i've stated is wrong or they failed?

All you've done is circumvent the evidence and arguments i've posted, or answered with AD HOMS, baseless claims and OPINIONS that prove or disproven nothing that I've presented.

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quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
and besides the FACT your claim cannot be conclusively PROVEN anyways, again, I've just demonstrated along with Dr. Mensurs and the EU theorists with undeniable EVIDENCE based on an irrefutable PATTERN, that ELENIN AND PLANETARY ALIGNMENTS CAUSE LARGE QUAKES which could only produce this type of PATTERN if ELENIN or something NEAR its same path, has LARGE MASS. and those blaming it on TESLA/Haarp, don't understand the issue or all the evidence that contradicts that technology being able to produce what the evidence shows that began before the technology existed.

No content, just rants

I can point to over 50 links and hundreds of pages of evidence for my argument like this one for example...

Thread: EARTHQUAKE HITS: Magnitude 4.4 - WESTERN TEXAS (Page 6)

so far you nor anyone has presented any intelligent counter-argument showing how my evidence is NOT evidence or where and how exactly its wrong. in other words, you have nothing of substance to present and your claims that my argument is a rant, is nothing but an OPINION based on ZERO evidence.

Using GLP and youtube as refrences is really no references at all. Learn how to do credible research.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


EVASION AGAIN NOTED.

Ignorant mental midgets like yourself are a dime a dozen and I've seen you come and go.

I've repeatedly challenged you to disprove what i've presented and argued line by line.

so far you're ALL TALK and pretending to be intelligent claiming academic credentials that you've not once demonstrated.

YAWN.

Oh, and my RESEARCH isn't done on GLP, so any "references" or arguments i've posted here, are based on evidence, sources and data from outside sources that are 100% verifiable and credible. ... this is merely ONE of the many FORUMS i post to.

And if you're knocking this forum as being somehow an JOKE and not a source for anything credible, then WHY ARE YOU HERE? LOL

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quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
instead of showing exactly how and where the evidence and argument i've presented is wrong, you ignore doing so and make ignorant claims and remarks based upon models of out-dated science that this NEW EVIDENCE CONTRADICTS, challenges and puts into question.

I did show where it is wrong. Any object would be visible by reflected light.


And i've just shown why that assertion is FALSE and PROVES or DISPROVES NOTHING in the context of my argument which you've completely failed to address or refute in any context or counter-argument whatsoever.

so your Opinion is once again a FAIL.

Childish rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


And More Ad homs from you to hide the fact you have ZERO evidence for your argument or against mine.

you're boring me.

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quote:MatrixLNIN11:MV8xNjA2NzE5XzI2ODM0NTQzXzIxRTZCMDVG
So if Elenin is just a comet, Explain how EVERY TIME ELENIN is in an ALIGNMENT phase, the most powerful quakes occur EVERY SINGLE TIME.

THe most powerful earthquake recorded was in 1962. Where was Elenin?

A) thats a LIE because the most powerful quake DID NOT occur in 1962 which alone and again SHOWS your incredible ignorance and fact your OPINION is worthless in JUDGING anything on this subject.
B) WHICH QUAKE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ANYWAY? you give no details.
C) HOW MUCH WOULD YOU LIKE TO BET THERE not only WAS AN ELENIN ALIGNMENT in 1962 that will correlate to A LARGE QUAKE Minimum 5.8+ but most likely a 6.5+ to 7.0+, but any MAJOR QUAKES in 1962 above 5.8 there is an Alignment that proves my TRIPLE HELIX P.A.T.

Now what were you saying??

anyone else want to wager a bet i can not only PROVE this persons statements and claims above are FALSE, but i can show that there was in fact an ELENIN alignment ON or around a MAJOR QUAKE just as i've explained above.


Yes that is a typo. The correct year is 1960. But the argument remains. No Elenin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


you mean this one??

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YEP. thats the one.

and AS A MATTER of FACT, ELENIN WAS in the type of alignment/conjunction phase around MAY 22 1960 that i've stated.

So if such an alignment that i've explained, can be shown to have occurred on or around EVERY MAJOR QUAKE in history, then that evidence alone is irrefutable no matter what current KNOWN "SCIENCE" or models you dig up or claim doesn't support it. The next step is more data to show this which I'll post when you and others start addressing the arguments and evidences i HAVE been posting. But since this event was back in 1960 almost 50 years ago, the graph or image and data that supports my position, will be slightly skewed due to perturbations and other unknown elements that could logically affect precision that long ago, but i submit any tools (however few that I know of), DO in fact show elenin and another in an alignment back then. You want me to present this evidence? Then start addressing what I've presented with more than just OPINIONS, evasions and rhetoric.

In the meantime, thank you for helping to further validate this theory and add more evidence for my argument.

Objects in the solar system come into opposition with the Earth almost yearly.
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But not objects with LARGE MASS nor objects in OPPOSITION as the definition states... thats not the type of alignment i'm talking about

So are you saying if something comes into alignment anytime during the year you claim that as a success? Kind of riduculous. I have a birthday every year too therefore everything happens around my birthday by your reasoning.
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Where have i ever said its "SOMETHING" coming into alignment? Now THATS definitely the true ridiculous remark and premise if ever there was one.

But you do mroe then that. You draw random connect the dot patterns and claim that as a success. Silly, really as you can draw straight lines through any two objects and it doesn't take much effort to find a third close enough for you to claim success. That is the problem with your "theory". It is too broad. It explains everything and cannot be falsified. Therefore, it really isn't a theory at all.
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If in 95 to 98% or as I say, 100% of the cases that i've examined, there's a REPEATED PATTERN of an alignment in which EVERY LARGE QUAKE can be correlated, then YOUR LOGIC and argument is an epic FAIL.

You can claim the pattern is RANDOM all you want, but the fact that a dot pattern showing this is in almost EVERY if not ALL CASES,
is whats important and validates it or at the very least compelling evidence for it. But Conventional science in this case, is irrelevant in explaining how or WHY it appears or the mechanics of it, since science can't even explain GRAVITY or physics we see or assume, let alone those we don't or can't.
To assert the pattern is invalid because modern science has no model or data to "explain" it, is ABSURD when the pattern doesn't just repeat 1 to 5 or even 10 to 20 or 50 times. The pattern is constant and appears in nearly EVERY case in such close proximity, that the odds of it being RANDOM or coincidence, is ASTRONOMICAL. And anyone that looks at just the evidence I've put forth in EVERY SINGLE one of my "quake predictions", can verify what i'm saying is true.

If its NOT, then SHOW EXACTLY HOW AND WHERE ITS ALL JUST COINCIDENCE.

Once or twice is a coincidence, 3 times to 50 or 100 times IN A ROW, is an IRREFUTABLE PATTERN

I submit this is a major discovery and conventional scientists either haven't looked at the actual evidence properly, don't know about it, or avoid and ignore it due to the implications it suggests that would force a major collapse of many current planetary science/mechanics, solar models and physics of our KNOWN universe. It would ALSO validate the theory of ELENIN and ALIGNMENTS or iow, that the S is about to HTF with ELENINS next alignments which is exactly why there's plenty of evidence to suggest this is all part of a massive psyop.

and seeing how NAZA and skeptics and our government have been behaving and are known to behave and LIE, manipulate and cover up, the assertion I made above, makes perfect sense and is in all likely hood reasonable and credible BECAUSE ITS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AS IT RELATES TO ELENIN!

Between the 16th, and 19th and then again from around the 22nd to the 23rd, I GUARANTEE with 99% certainty, this theory will have another major VALIDATION, and you can go KICK ROCKS.

And from what I've heard, the major DATES after the 23rd of the 26th/27th Elenin Alignment, may be several days EARLIER now do to new orbit data of Elenin's increase in speed that has to be adjusted.

So the timeline could all be earlier around the 23rd for a MAJOR cataclysmic event similar to if not far worse than JAPAN on a global scale. But of course skeptics like you follow in the footsteps of FOOLS like DAVID MORONISSON and claim NOTHING unusual or catastrophic will happen around this time period.

we shall see very soon.

If something thats been warned of does, and the odds are IT WILL based on the evidence so far, I can only hope the net is still working so that people can come back to address all those who ridiculed and said NOTHING will happen. I also can only hope MANY LIVES aren't lost either because their BLOOD will be on the hands of those such as yourself.

Oh, and Elenin reached opposition on Feb 5, 1960.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


and what source out of curiosity are you using for that data?

The largest recorded earthquake occured May 22, 1960 in Chile. Since it happened in the same year, guess you will claim that as a success.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429



If there's ANY ALIGNMENTS that appear on or around that exact date using the parameters i've explained of a MAJOR QUAKE 5.8+, YES, you bet I WILL.

And as a matter of FACT, THERE WAS a LARGER QUAKE in February 1960 prior to the big February 29th 5.7 ONE.

and ELENIN WAS IN the SAME type of alignment ON or around that date of one of the LARGEST quakes of the month, AGAIN...
GEE, WHAT A COINCIDENCE. pffffffffff

and I can show evidence to support it even though on FEB 5th there APPEARS to be no quake on that date.

so thanks for your assistance with more evidence or my argument.

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the FACT is, YOU nor ANYONE can explain using CONVENTIONAL SCIENCE because this phenomenon hasn't been analyzed or even officially considered YET since current technology, science and methods, cannot or are not advanced enough to measure UNIVERSAL mechanics... or at least thats what the reptilian illuminati cult NAZA wants its enslaved herd of ignorant zombies to believe. So which side are you on? the dumbed down sheep or a naza shill?

Proof you have no evidence to support your claim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


except the facts and evidence PROVE OTHERWISE.

And now the name calling.

And now you're LYING. NO WHERE have I directly NAMED CALLED anyone other than a GENERAL remark about those who FOLLOW BLINDLY systems and leaders who to anyone that has critical thinking skills, is pushing an agenda of pure EVIL thats led to the enslavement of most humans for millennia just as i've said, which is not an opinion, its TRUE.

But If the SHOE FITS... You're an ignorant and arrogant fool criticizing things you know nothing about and haven't bothered to research let alone on just the BASICS, with a disrespectful tone.

MY REPLIES REFLECT whatever TONE you project.

Fact: I made no personal attacks, untrue criticism or any judgements of you personally.

Right, calling people Nazis isn't name calling. What world do you live in? Grow up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1525236


AS I SAID you're a LIAR.

NO WHERE did i directly attack anyone personally. Nor did i call anyone a NAZI. But then, there's irrefutable evidence that NASA has NAZI ROOTS aside from from their blatant NAZIesque Behavior, disinfo and CENSORSHIP.

so like i said, IF THE SHOE FITS.

and anyone defending them either shops at the same shoe store, or is ignorant of the evidence and facts.

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let me and everyone know when you have better EVIDENCE for your argument and evidence against MINE.

You are jsut a fear monger.
I will go farther than that. You are trying to terroize people with this inane theory that has no scientific backing. Correlation is not causation. There are many more earthquakes that occur without alignments then you can claim. A handful is not statitically significant.

You call it fear, because you HATE THE MESSAGE that i've explained is VALIDATED and WILL HELP MANY PREPARE which in turn could help many SURVIVE and due to the EVIDENCE, there is a CREDIBLE THREAT that needs to be given and pointed out.

The true EVIL, is coming from morons like you that attack the messengers because you FEAR and hate the message and try to HIDE it or STEER many away from a warning that could potentially help save lives.

This is the SAME SCENARIO that occurred back before the JAPAN QUAKE when 9NANIA was screaming and yelling trying to WARN of a MAJOR CATASTROPHIC SEISMIC EVENT TO OCCUR ON or around 3/11/11.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU are of the SAME ILK as DAVID MORISSON who RIDICULED that warning and SAID PAY NO ATTENTION NOTHING WILL HAPPEN and those WARNING of something, ARE FEAR MONGERING!

How STUPID do you Fools look now?

You are still just a fear monger. You don't know anything and try to show people how great you are by crying DOOOOM.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


I've already addressed and debunked that MORONIC assertion for which you have no evidence to support aside from it already being debunked.

Yes, on or around 3/11/11 something somewhere might happen. Wow, really specific there. Really believable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


once again your remark is MORE PROOF you're totally IGNORANT of the evidence and facts which PROVE OTHERWISE.

Oh and by the way, SHE IN FACT DID WARN OF A MAJOR CATASTROPHIC SEISMIC EVENT TO OCCUR IN A MAJOR CITY AROUND THE PACIFIC RING OF FIRE AND SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED JAPAN.

If you claim thats not SPECIFIC (LOL), let me be more specific...

you're a MORON

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Re: 6.0 QUAKE HITS DC/NYC/VA on near PERFECT ALIGNMENT OF EARTH SUN AND VENUS!! More PROOF ALIGNMENTS CAUSE LARGE QUAKES! another ELENIN warning!!
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NOT TRUE and nothing but speculation... compelling evidence both scientific and unconventional exists which shows your CLAIM is not based on an ABSOLUTE. I can provide evidence such as gravitational lensing, the INFRARED aspect, naza's lies and contradictions, EU theorems, Dr Mensur's data, or USGS quake data records FOR STARTERS.

It is not speculation at all. All objects in the solar system are seen by reflected light. It is simple laws of physics that say an object near the Sun will reflect light

the assertion "ALL OBJECTS in the solar system ARE seen by reflected light" is based on current known scientific evidence and models and theories. The FACT that SCIENTISTS have had to CHANGE and REVISE THEORIES and EVIDENCE as NEW DATA AND DISCOVERIES ARE MADE, is why the term "ALL" in that context, doesn't allow for the UNKNOWN or the NEW THEORIES AND EVIDENCE that are CHALLENGING the current LAWS OF PHYSICS that have so far NOT BEEN PROVEN WRONG.

That is an idiotic statement made by someone who does not understand science or the history of science. All objects in the solar system (besides the Sun) are seen by reflected light in the visible. That is a simple fact. The changes made are because the areas of investigation are reaching higher accuracy and precision. You can send a rocket to Pluto by just using Newton's laws. Albert Einstein made the statement:

Since it has often been contended by opponents of the theory of relativity that the special theory of relativity is overthrown by the general theory of relativity, it is perhaps advisable to make the facts of the case clearer by means of an appropriate comparison. Before the development of electrodynamics the laws of electrostatics were looked upon as the laws of electricity. At the present time we know that electric fields can be derived correctly from electrostatic considerations only for the case, which is never strictly realized, in which the electrical masses are quite at rest relatively to each other, and to the co-ordinate system. Should we be justified in saying that for this reason electrostatics is overthrown by the field-equations of Maxwell in electrodynamics? Not in the least. Electrostatics is contained in electrodynamics as a limiting case; the laws of the latter lead directly to those of the former for the case in which the fields are invariable with regard to time. No fairer destiny could be allotted to any physical theory, than that it should of itself point out the way to the introduction of a more comprehensive theory, in which it lives on as a limiting case.

I trust Einstein's views on changes in science much more than I trust yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


but its not my fault you're too lazy to look up why you're wrong.

the "evidence" and response above is moronic and proves or disproves nothing.

The E.U.THEORY has already exposed major flaws in EINSTEINS "theories" and is emerging as one of the most revolutionary new theories forcing current science to confront new data that challenges OLD models and theories.

But your "argument" still hardly addresses the current data and evidence that EUT has presented let alone such things are Gravitational Lensing or the FACT that there are objects that can ONLY be seen by INFRARED and the Brown Dwarf thats less than 30 days away, is ONE OF THEM.

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Since you actually don't present any evidence your statement is useless

Except the EVIDENCE for my ARGUMENT is THE FACT over 95% to as high as 99% of all MAJOR QUAKES IN THE PAST 30 DAYS have ALL HIT ON the EXACT DATES and windows OF MY LARGE QUAKE WARNING predictions.

Its IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE and something ANYONE can verify.

Since you've shown no counter-argument or context and evidence for your argument or how and where exactly mine is wrong, YOUR STATEMENT IS WORTHLESS.

So As I have already said. There are over 500,000 known objects in the solar system. You can find some sort of alignment for absolutley everything so your alignment theory is bogus.
 Quoting: MatrixLNIN11


not if a PATTERN can be shown that correlates to EVERY MAJOR quake on record.

Thats a fact that cannot be disproven by 1 million "objects" in the the solar system. So your argument is not only bogus, but its IRRELEVANT to the context of my premise or argument.

YOU have the burden of proof to show that aligments can cause earthquakes and provide the phsycial reasoning behind such assertions. You have not done so. Correlation does not imply causation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


If a continuous PATTERN has been ESTABLISHED, CORRELATION in fact DOES imply causation and THAT IS EVIDENCE of it whether you want to admit it or not or whether it needs to be proven beyond a doubt for it to be CREDIBLE.
And since most "scientists" who have the TOOLS and RESOURCES that COULD MEASURE and STUDY this theory further, either don't know about it, or haven't examined the evidence properly yet if at all, proof in that context, is impossible and irrelevant at this time.

But either way, I submit that 95% or even nearly EVERY LARGE quake if not ALL on record that can be found and accurately measured, correlate to the type of ALIGNMENT phases/cycles I've posited,,, and just the predictions I've posted so far, is evidence that supports the hypothesis with an almost 95 to 99% accuracy. YOU PROVE what i've presented is FALSE and has no evidence to support it. So far the evidence does SUPPORT it and has yet to be disproven let alone just in the quake predictions i've posted.

Now if you claim its not evidence, then why haven't you presented any counter-argument showing exactly how and where what i've stated is wrong or they failed?

All you've done is circumvent the evidence and arguments i've posted, or answered with AD HOMS, baseless claims and OPINIONS that prove or disproven nothing that I've presented.

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and besides the FACT your claim cannot be conclusively PROVEN anyways, again, I've just demonstrated along with Dr. Mensurs and the EU theorists with undeniable EVIDENCE based on an irrefutable PATTERN, that ELENIN AND PLANETARY ALIGNMENTS CAUSE LARGE QUAKES which could only produce this type of PATTERN if ELENIN or something NEAR its same path, has LARGE MASS. and those blaming it on TESLA/Haarp, don't understand the issue or all the evidence that contradicts that technology being able to produce what the evidence shows that began before the technology existed.

No content, just rants

I can point to over 50 links and hundreds of pages of evidence for my argument like this one for example...

Thread: EARTHQUAKE HITS: Magnitude 4.4 - WESTERN TEXAS (Page 6)

so far you nor anyone has presented any intelligent counter-argument showing how my evidence is NOT evidence or where and how exactly its wrong. in other words, you have nothing of substance to present and your claims that my argument is a rant, is nothing but an OPINION based on ZERO evidence.

Using GLP and youtube as refrences is really no references at all. Learn how to do credible research.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


EVASION AGAIN NOTED.

Ignorant mental midgets like yourself are a dime a dozen and I've seen you come and go.

I've repeatedly challenged you to disprove what i've presented and argued line by line.

so far you're ALL TALK and pretending to be intelligent claiming academic credentials that you've not once demonstrated.

YAWN.

Oh, and my RESEARCH isn't done on GLP, so any "references" or arguments i've posted here, are based on evidence, sources and data from outside sources that are 100% verifiable and credible. ... this is merely ONE of the many FORUMS i post to.

And if you're knocking this forum as being somehow an JOKE and not a source for anything credible, then WHY ARE YOU HERE? LOL

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instead of showing exactly how and where the evidence and argument i've presented is wrong, you ignore doing so and make ignorant claims and remarks based upon models of out-dated science that this NEW EVIDENCE CONTRADICTS, challenges and puts into question.

I did show where it is wrong. Any object would be visible by reflected light.


And i've just shown why that assertion is FALSE and PROVES or DISPROVES NOTHING in the context of my argument which you've completely failed to address or refute in any context or counter-argument whatsoever.

so your Opinion is once again a FAIL.

Childish rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


And More Ad homs from you to hide the fact you have ZERO evidence for your argument or against mine.

you're boring me.

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So if Elenin is just a comet, Explain how EVERY TIME ELENIN is in an ALIGNMENT phase, the most powerful quakes occur EVERY SINGLE TIME.

THe most powerful earthquake recorded was in 1962. Where was Elenin?

A) thats a LIE because the most powerful quake DID NOT occur in 1962 which alone and again SHOWS your incredible ignorance and fact your OPINION is worthless in JUDGING anything on this subject.
B) WHICH QUAKE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ANYWAY? you give no details.
C) HOW MUCH WOULD YOU LIKE TO BET THERE not only WAS AN ELENIN ALIGNMENT in 1962 that will correlate to A LARGE QUAKE Minimum 5.8+ but most likely a 6.5+ to 7.0+, but any MAJOR QUAKES in 1962 above 5.8 there is an Alignment that proves my TRIPLE HELIX P.A.T.

Now what were you saying??

anyone else want to wager a bet i can not only PROVE this persons statements and claims above are FALSE, but i can show that there was in fact an ELENIN alignment ON or around a MAJOR QUAKE just as i've explained above.


Yes that is a typo. The correct year is 1960. But the argument remains. No Elenin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


you mean this one??

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9.5 Magnitude - May 22, 1960 near Valdivia, Chile
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YEP. thats the one.

and AS A MATTER of FACT, ELENIN WAS in the type of alignment/conjunction phase around MAY 22 1960 that i've stated.

So if such an alignment that i've explained, can be shown to have occurred on or around EVERY MAJOR QUAKE in history, then that evidence alone is irrefutable no matter what current KNOWN "SCIENCE" or models you dig up or claim doesn't support it. The next step is more data to show this which I'll post when you and others start addressing the arguments and evidences i HAVE been posting. But since this event was back in 1960 almost 50 years ago, the graph or image and data that supports my position, will be slightly skewed due to perturbations and other unknown elements that could logically affect precision that long ago, but i submit any tools (however few that I know of), DO in fact show elenin and another in an alignment back then. You want me to present this evidence? Then start addressing what I've presented with more than just OPINIONS, evasions and rhetoric.

In the meantime, thank you for helping to further validate this theory and add more evidence for my argument.

Objects in the solar system come into opposition with the Earth almost yearly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


But not objects with LARGE MASS nor objects in OPPOSITION as the definition states... thats not the type of alignment i'm talking about

So are you saying if something comes into alignment anytime during the year you claim that as a success? Kind of riduculous. I have a birthday every year too therefore everything happens around my birthday by your reasoning.
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Where have i ever said its "SOMETHING" coming into alignment? Now THATS definitely the true ridiculous remark and premise if ever there was one.

But you do mroe then that. You draw random connect the dot patterns and claim that as a success. Silly, really as you can draw straight lines through any two objects and it doesn't take much effort to find a third close enough for you to claim success. That is the problem with your "theory". It is too broad. It explains everything and cannot be falsified. Therefore, it really isn't a theory at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


If in 95 to 98% or as I say, 100% of the cases that i've examined, there's a REPEATED PATTERN of an alignment in which EVERY LARGE QUAKE can be correlated, then YOUR LOGIC and argument is an epic FAIL.

You can claim the pattern is RANDOM all you want, but the fact that a dot pattern showing this is in almost EVERY if not ALL CASES,
is whats important and validates it or at the very least compelling evidence for it. But Conventional science in this case, is irrelevant in explaining how or WHY it appears or the mechanics of it, since science can't even explain GRAVITY or physics we see or assume, let alone those we don't or can't.
To assert the pattern is invalid because modern science has no model or data to "explain" it, is ABSURD when the pattern doesn't just repeat 1 to 5 or even 10 to 20 or 50 times. The pattern is constant and appears in nearly EVERY case in such close proximity, that the odds of it being RANDOM or coincidence, is ASTRONOMICAL. And anyone that looks at just the evidence I've put forth in EVERY SINGLE one of my "quake predictions", can verify what i'm saying is true.

If its NOT, then SHOW EXACTLY HOW AND WHERE ITS ALL JUST COINCIDENCE.

Once or twice is a coincidence, 3 times to 50 or 100 times IN A ROW, is an IRREFUTABLE PATTERN

I submit this is a major discovery and conventional scientists either haven't looked at the actual evidence properly, don't know about it, or avoid and ignore it due to the implications it suggests that would force a major collapse of many current planetary science/mechanics, solar models and physics of our KNOWN universe. It would ALSO validate the theory of ELENIN and ALIGNMENTS or iow, that the S is about to HTF with ELENINS next alignments which is exactly why there's plenty of evidence to suggest this is all part of a massive psyop.

and seeing how NAZA and skeptics and our government have been behaving and are known to behave and LIE, manipulate and cover up, the assertion I made above, makes perfect sense and is in all likely hood reasonable and credible BECAUSE ITS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AS IT RELATES TO ELENIN!

Between the 16th, and 19th and then again from around the 22nd to the 23rd, I GUARANTEE with 99% certainty, this theory will have another major VALIDATION, and you can go KICK ROCKS.

And from what I've heard, the major DATES after the 23rd of the 26th/27th Elenin Alignment, may be several days EARLIER now do to new orbit data of Elenin's increase in speed that has to be adjusted.

So the timeline could all be earlier around the 23rd for a MAJOR cataclysmic event similar to if not far worse than JAPAN on a global scale. But of course skeptics like you follow in the footsteps of FOOLS like DAVID MORONISSON and claim NOTHING unusual or catastrophic will happen around this time period.

we shall see very soon.

If something thats been warned of does, and the odds are IT WILL based on the evidence so far, I can only hope the net is still working so that people can come back to address all those who ridiculed and said NOTHING will happen. I also can only hope MANY LIVES aren't lost either because their BLOOD will be on the hands of those such as yourself.

Oh, and Elenin reached opposition on Feb 5, 1960.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


and what source out of curiosity are you using for that data?

The largest recorded earthquake occured May 22, 1960 in Chile. Since it happened in the same year, guess you will claim that as a success.
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If there's ANY ALIGNMENTS that appear on or around that exact date using the parameters i've explained of a MAJOR QUAKE 5.8+, YES, you bet I WILL.

And as a matter of FACT, THERE WAS a LARGER QUAKE in February 1960 prior to the big February 29th 5.7 ONE.

and ELENIN WAS IN the SAME type of alignment ON or around that date of one of the LARGEST quakes of the month, AGAIN...
GEE, WHAT A COINCIDENCE. pffffffffff

and I can show evidence to support it even though on FEB 5th there APPEARS to be no quake on that date.

so thanks for your assistance with more evidence or my argument.

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the FACT is, YOU nor ANYONE can explain using CONVENTIONAL SCIENCE because this phenomenon hasn't been analyzed or even officially considered YET since current technology, science and methods, cannot or are not advanced enough to measure UNIVERSAL mechanics... or at least thats what the reptilian illuminati cult NAZA wants its enslaved herd of ignorant zombies to believe. So which side are you on? the dumbed down sheep or a naza shill?

Proof you have no evidence to support your claim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487429


except the facts and evidence PROVE OTHERWISE.

And now the name calling.

And now you're LYING. NO WHERE have I directly NAMED CALLED anyone other than a GENERAL remark about those who FOLLOW BLINDLY systems and leaders who to anyone that has critical thinking skills, is pushing an agenda of pure EVIL thats led to the enslavement of most humans for millennia just as i've said, which is not an opinion, its TRUE.

But If the SHOE FITS... You're an ignorant and arrogant fool criticizing things you know nothing about and haven't bothered to research let alone on just the BASICS, with a disrespectful tone.

MY REPLIES REFLECT whatever TONE you project.

Fact: I made no personal attacks, untrue criticism or any judgements of you personally.

Right, calling people Nazis isn't name calling. What world do you live in? Grow up.
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AS I SAID you're a LIAR.

NO WHERE did i directly attack anyone personally. Nor did i call anyone a NAZI. But then, there's irrefutable evidence that NASA has NAZI ROOTS aside from from their blatant NAZIesque Behavior, disinfo and CENSORSHIP.

so like i said, IF THE SHOE FITS.

and anyone defending them either shops at the same shoe store, or is ignorant of the evidence and facts.

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let me and everyone know when you have better EVIDENCE for your argument and evidence against MINE.

You are jsut a fear monger.
I will go farther than that. You are trying to terroize people with this inane theory that has no scientific backing. Correlation is not causation. There are many more earthquakes that occur without alignments then you can claim. A handful is not statitically significant.

You call it fear, because you HATE THE MESSAGE that i've explained is VALIDATED and WILL HELP MANY PREPARE which in turn could help many SURVIVE and due to the EVIDENCE, there is a CREDIBLE THREAT that needs to be given and pointed out.

The true EVIL, is coming from morons like you that attack the messengers because you FEAR and hate the message and try to HIDE it or STEER many away from a warning that could potentially help save lives.

This is the SAME SCENARIO that occurred back before the JAPAN QUAKE when 9NANIA was screaming and yelling trying to WARN of a MAJOR CATASTROPHIC SEISMIC EVENT TO OCCUR ON or around 3/11/11.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU are of the SAME ILK as DAVID MORISSON who RIDICULED that warning and SAID PAY NO ATTENTION NOTHING WILL HAPPEN and those WARNING of something, ARE FEAR MONGERING!

How STUPID do you Fools look now?

You are still just a fear monger. You don't know anything and try to show people how great you are by crying DOOOOM.
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I've already addressed and debunked that MORONIC assertion for which you have no evidence to support aside from it already being debunked.

Yes, on or around 3/11/11 something somewhere might happen. Wow, really specific there. Really believable.
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once again your remark is MORE PROOF you're totally IGNORANT of the evidence and facts which PROVE OTHERWISE.

Oh and by the way, SHE IN FACT DID WARN OF A MAJOR CATASTROPHIC SEISMIC EVENT TO OCCUR IN A MAJOR CITY AROUND THE PACIFIC RING OF FIRE AND SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED JAPAN.

If you claim thats not SPECIFIC (LOL), let me be more specific...

you're a MORON


Your response is typical from someone who approaches their opinion as dognmatic. Nothing can sway you because you have to be right. No amount of contrary evidence will convience you.

And you did call people Nazis. Why do you lie when everyone can see what you posted.


the FACT is, YOU nor ANYONE can explain using CONVENTIONAL SCIENCE because this phenomenon hasn't been analyzed or even officially considered YET since current technology, science and methods, cannot or are not advanced enough to measure UNIVERSAL mechanics... or at least thats what the reptilian illuminati cult NAZA wants its enslaved herd of ignorant zombies to believe. So which side are you on? the dumbed down sheep or a naza shill?


the last person who said that, was a NAZA expert scientist David MORONISSON who said nothing cataclysmic or catastrophic would happen on around 3/11/11.

So how many more lies are you telling if this one is so easy to prove?

No. The alignment "theory" is pure nonsense. And your attempt to muddle the issue with vitriol name calling and childish rants has failed. You have only proved that you are incapable of discussing like an adult.

There is no science backing your statements and you have not provided any. Correlation is not causation. How difficult is that for people like you to understand? And you haven't even produced a good correlation at that. Just nonsense.

Only post again when you have grown up and developed the ability to rationally discuss issues. You postings are too infantile.
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i'm just watching because i certainly don't believe nasa but do believe it a possibility for these things to be causing various types of disruptions in the Earth's magnetic field and body. and my god look at how many huge earthquakes have been happening lately, a little unnerving, that..
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not if a PATTERN can be shown that correlates to EVERY MAJOR quake on record.

Thats a fact that cannot be disproven by 1 million "objects" in the the solar system. So your argument is not only bogus, but its IRRELEVANT to the context of my premise or argument.

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The that is a problem. If a theory has no possibility of being falsified, then it isn't a theory. Look up falsifiability.
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but its not my fault you're too lazy to look up why you're wrong.

the "evidence" and response above is moronic and proves or disproves nothing.

The E.U.THEORY has already exposed major flaws in EINSTEINS "theories" and is emerging as one of the most revolutionary new theories forcing current science to confront new data that challenges OLD models and theories.

But your "argument" still hardly addresses the current data and evidence that EUT has presented let alone such things are Gravitational Lensing or the FACT that there are objects that can ONLY be seen by INFRARED and the Brown Dwarf thats less than 30 days away, is ONE OF THEM.

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As presented, the electric universe theory is pseudo-science. Every scientist understands the importance of plasmas, that is not in doubt. But trying to cast everything in terms of the electric universe is the "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" mentality.
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If a continuous PATTERN has been ESTABLISHED, CORRELATION in fact DOES imply causation and THAT IS EVIDENCE of it whether you want to admit it or not or whether it needs to be proven beyond a doubt for it to be CREDIBLE.
And since most "scientists" who have the TOOLS and RESOURCES that COULD MEASURE and STUDY this theory further, either don't know about it, or haven't examined the evidence properly yet if at all, proof in that context, is impossible and irrelevant at this time.

But either way, I submit that 95% or even nearly EVERY LARGE quake if not ALL on record that can be found and accurately measured, correlate to the type of ALIGNMENT phases/cycles I've posited,,, and just the predictions I've posted so far, is evidence that supports the hypothesis with an almost 95 to 99% accuracy. YOU PROVE what i've presented is FALSE and has no evidence to support it. So far the evidence does SUPPORT it and has yet to be disproven let alone just in the quake predictions i've posted.

Now if you claim its not evidence, then why haven't you presented any counter-argument showing exactly how and where what i've stated is wrong or they failed?

All you've done is circumvent the evidence and arguments i've posted, or answered with AD HOMS, baseless claims and OPINIONS that prove or disproven nothing that I've presented.
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The ad hominims are in the response to yours. Argue like an adult.

You still don't understand burden of proof. You are responsible for providing a clear, comprehensive, balanced argument. But all you can do is yell "if you don't agree with me then you are a Nazi". That is not a theory that is a bully.

Your statements are vague and you do not define terms. I have asked several times to define alignment. What do you mean be alignment? How is it determined? This is what Omerbashich has done, not define alignment. That is the first step. Can you do it without resorting to calling people Nazi or shill or troll? My guess is no. You do not have the maturity for it.
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And as a matter of FACT, THERE WAS a LARGER QUAKE in February 1960 prior to the big February 29th 5.7 ONE.

and ELENIN WAS IN the SAME type of alignment ON or around that date of one of the LARGEST quakes of the month, AGAIN...
GEE, WHAT A COINCIDENCE. pffffffffff

and I can show evidence to support it even though on FEB 5th there APPEARS to be no quake on that date.

so thanks for your assistance with more evidence or my argument.
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Again, you have defined your terms so broadly, nothing can fail. As I have said, that isn't a theory that is dogma.
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Try this old post;
Thread: Science proves Elenin-Quake connection!

Have any of you Omerbastards ever considered his argument for including Elenin? Here, read this again. It's from his site;
"(NOTES: the main reason why the comet C/2010X1 (Elenin) is included here with planets (in addition to the fact it drags gravitationally locked particles spanning 30k+ km) is because it is non-periodic (thus making an apparently static approach and therefore partaking in long alignments), and its trajectory is coplanar to our solar system. Other such comets have forbidding inclinations: their trajectories lie outside our solar system's plane so those comets never align with planets.) Strong seismicity during long alignments has mostly to do with object's low orbital inclination, low speed and large apparent size. Therefore only objects which are virtually co-planar to our Solar system's "plane" and which take up a significant portion of the sky are of relevance here, such as the Sun, the planets and the comet Elenin, but not any other comets or asteroids..."

Ok, you do know about Comets by now I suppose. You should know that Comets usually do not start forming a Coma until they are inside of Jupiter's orbit. That's when most are discovered, when they pass inside of the orbit and begin outgassing. Elenin discovered this Comet shortly after it began outgassing and forming a Coma at a distance of 4.2 AU from the Sun. Before that, it was merely a 3km frozen rock...NO COMA. The comet passed inside of Jupiter's orbit around August 2010 before which there is NO WAY this 3km frozen rock could be considered to be, "drags gravitationally locked particles spanning 30k+ km" or "take up a significant portion of the sky." That kinda blows it right there doesn't it? Inside of Jupiter's orbit there are ten of thousands of asteroids that take up a much more significant part of the sky than a 3km rock, most are coplanar, and I'm sure there are plenty of 3+ day alignments if you want to waste your time detailing it.

How can you even seriously consider Elenin in any event that occurred before August 2010? It's non-sensical. Other Elenin alignments occurred simultaneously with planetary alignments where the planets should be given priority. Jupiter was also involved in many of these alignments and opposed Saturn best Feb 23, 2011 while the Earth was moving into this opposition. Mar 11th, less than three weeks later, Earth had just reached Mercury's orbit with Saturn & Jupiter on either side. Finally May 5th, Earth moved out of the Saturn Jupiter Mercury area. I have my own theories...
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Go look for yourself...

[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

[link to desmond.imageshack.us]

VENUS SUN & EARTH in almost PERFECT Alignment and Opposition on AUGUST 23RD 2011

NO WAY IS THIS A COINCIDENCE.

DAVID MORRISON the NAZA SHILL just got another SPANKING trying to hide the TRUTH about Alignments and ELENIN
[link to www.youtube.com]

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These were all the reports:
2011-08-23 17:52:19.8 45.98 N 68.57 W 25 mb 5.2 A MAINE NEWS
2011-08-23 17:52:07.5 44.60 N 69.72 W 25 mb 5.1 A MAINE NEWS
2011-08-23 17:51:19.7 38.10 N 78.10 W 125 mb 5.7 A VIRGINIA SC3
2011-08-23 17:51:15.5 37.67 N 75.94 W 1 mb 6.1 A CHESAPEAKE BAY REGION MSO
2011-08-23 17:51:15.0 38.00 N 77.00 W 1 mb 6.0 A VIRGINIA LED
2011-08-23 17:51:13.3 37.95 N 78.10 W 53 mb 5.8 A VIRGINIA MAD
2011-08-23 17:51:07.3 38.00 N 78.07 W 261 mb 6.3 M VIRGINIA MAD
2011-08-23 17:51:05.2 38.09 N 78.07 W 10 M 6.1 A VIRGINIA GFZ
2011-08-23 17:51:04.0 37.94 N 77.94 W 6 M 5.8 M VIRGINIA NEIR
2011-08-23 17:51:03.7 38.25 N 78.96 W 10 mb 5.6 M VIRGINIA BUC
2011-08-23 17:51:03.6 37.99 N 78.01 W 2 mb 5.9 M+ VIRGINIA INFO
2011-08-23 17:51:03.6 37.98 N 77.87 W 5 mb 6.5 A VIRGINIA GSRC
2011-08-23 17:51:01.1 38.33 N 79.25 W 33 mb 5.8 A VIRGINIA LDG
2011-08-23 17:50:59.3 38.10 N 77.70 W 6 Mw 6.2 A VIRGINIA BGSG
2011-08-23 17:50:57.2 37.04 N 79.43 W 25 mb 4.8 A VIRGINIA
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Undeniable & more compelling Evidence if not Proof, Planetary Alignments cause LARGE QUAKES!

UPDATE NOTE-- The quakes under 5.8 are simply there to show what occurred during that swarm... the only relevant quakes are ABOVE 5.8

here's an excerpt from the IDES OF AUGUSTus QUAKE WARNING that warned LARGE QUAKES to during MAOR ALIGNMENT PHASE w/ EARTH-SUN-VENUS

here's the window recap that was 1 day & 1mag off from the quake WINDOW

Thread: Matrix of ELENIN 11 QUAKE WARNING - Beware the IDES of AUGUSTUS... Again?? 311611911
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window a: 8/13 to 8/19
window b: 8/21 (+/- 1 day)

Any hit for a large unique quake M7+ on or around these two alignment windows, gives further credence and evidence to supporting E.U.T.

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I knew this was gonna happen so I started an Earthquake Prediction Thread last night - thought you might be interested :

Thread: Earthquake Prediction - Venus - Elenin - Earth Alignment tonight





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